Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: macleod01 on June 15, 2008, 10:19:48 AM
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You skinners are going to start dreading my name in a bit with all the stupid posts Ive put up, but heres another one. I just found a picture of a few cool 109's. I can only guess their Emils as its from a BoB book (I know, I know, not very accurate) and I was just wondering if anyone could shed anymore light on these planes. Could be fun to do. The picture looks as if it was taken in the field as opposes to a test flight.
(http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z238/bigmacleod01/PICT0210.jpg)
Fraid thats the best and only photo I have of them, and the quality isn't the best either. Any offers?
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Early 109, metal like this?
(http://www.vectorsite.net/avbf109_1_1.jpg)
Here is a better quality photo:
(http://www.lordprice.co.uk/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/MIWW1065H,-German-Airfield,.jpg)
The second photo is from 1941, so it might be 109e?
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cant see your first one, just that annoying wee red cross. Yea bare metal, any idea as to what JG it was from?
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First one disappeared for me too.
On the other hand, 109e-1:
(http://www.eugene.es-krs.ru///camms/ar/32/pics/2_114.jpg)
109e4:
(http://www.eugene.es-krs.ru///camms/ar/32/pics/2_120.jpg)
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Not bare metal. Pre B of B, Battle of France, Invasion of Poland type camo scheme before they moved the camo further down the fuselage sides.
Photo is 39-40 time frame so E-1s would be my guess based on the lack of cannon barrels extended from the wing.
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So is this going to be another thread ive started that ends in a 'NO SKIN' answer?
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(http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/4145/22re6.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
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<drool> i would stop flying the solid black Emil if we had this
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Really... damn thats basically my Emil template :lol
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Motherland, mind putting up some pics of your template bird? I'm curous as to how you did your rivets.
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After having done a fair bit of picture scouring in order to figure out the most accurate way to reproduce the 109's rivets (and subsequently re-doing my entire 109 template) I believe that the best way to do the rivets is to draw each rivet as a 1 pixel black dot and to either use a layer effect on it and give the dots an 'external glow' in white or duplicate the original layer of black dots and drop the duplicate (in white) underneath the black dots and use a small gaussian blur to bring a 'halo' effect out from beneath the black dots.
I believe Fencer uses a similar technique on his JG 11 K4.
The 109's rivets were depressed, not raised, and that black with a white border gives that 'sunken' visual effect.
The standard '1 black, 1 white side-by-side' gives a raised effect, suitable for other aircraft but not the 109.
I shall be re-doing my 190 template too, once I get around to it, and replacing the rivets on my A5 as they were done in the 'raised' style.
Some may disagree with the rivets being too subtle that way but that's how they were and that's what I'll be sticking to.
Furthermore, I believe it was common practice for ze Germans to apply a layer of filler and then remove the excess so if you wanted to get really pissy about it there wouldn't be very much at all in the way of visible rivets.
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Really... damn thats basically my Emil template :lol
Go get some, Bubi. :aok