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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Cmustard on June 16, 2008, 06:45:34 PM
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Hello HTC and critics ,
I was wondering why HTC does not fix these few gliched : <1> When you join someone in their plane , and they end up ejecting , you go spinning. <2> When you join a ground vehicle , he cant move or shoot and the joiner cant shoot or move.
<3> When you take off from fields , friendly , grab a little alt to defend and start killing fighters diving on your <OWN> field , ack will kill you or damage you. Im sick of all these little gliches and I hope sometime in the future itwill be fixed
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Not sure about the other ones but it seems to me that if ack hits you it hits you and you should take damage. Doesn't seem like a bug to me but a deliberate decision to model it that way, a decision you may disagree with but I would be surprised if it's a "bug".
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1. I never let anyone join my plane or vehicle. I tried out of courtesy early on but every time I did I'd get a hard lock-up and have to shut down using the power button. That was the end of that.
2. I agree with the ack thing. I was hot on the 6 of a jabo fighter the other night diving on our CV and I was the one who got shot down (by my own ack). Makes it kind of hard to defend your CV.
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start killing fighters diving on your <OWN> field , ack will kill you or damage you. Im sick of all these little gliches and I hope sometime in the future itwill be fixed
This is exactly what happened in real life and therefore not a glitch. Get hit by a shell and you will take damage.
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This is exactly what happened in real life and therefore not a glitch. Get hit by a shell and you will take damage.
Yes this is what happend in real life , but this game is not that accurate. If we wana go by "What Happend In Real Life" then the lazer ack has to go. Ive dove in a 262 doing 600MPH 10K away from a enemy <C> And the puffy ack killed me. Several times this has happend to me , the puffy ack in this game is so unrealistic its not even funny. Ack for that matter also .....
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Not sure about the other ones but it seems to me that if ack hits you it hits you and you should take damage. Doesn't seem like a bug to me but a deliberate decision to model it that way, a decision you may disagree with but I would be surprised if it's a "bug".
This is a game , and not isn't very accurate in alot of areas. Friendly ack shouldn't kill you. If you want to say that then we could alos say why can we fly through friendly aircraft? Why do we have kill shot? ETC.
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Hello HTC and critics ,
I was wondering why HTC does not fix these few gliched : <1> When you join someone in their plane , and they end up ejecting , you go spinning.
I haven't had this happen since I got a decent connection. It is a pain though.
<2> When you join a ground vehicle , he cant move or shoot and the joiner cant shoot or move.
That's not a glitch, you're just doing it wrong.
<3> When you take off from fields , friendly , grab a little alt to defend and start killing fighters diving on your <OWN> field , ack will kill you or damage you.
You whined about this before, and we explained it then as well. That's not a glitch either, you're just stupid.
Im sick of all these little gliches and I hope sometime in the future itwill be fixed
Maybe you will find this game more to your liking? I hope so.
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Geez Hub......kinda harsh!!!!
I like it!!!!! :aok :rofl
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I haven't had this happen since I got a decent connection. It is a pain though.
That's not a glitch, you're just doing it wrong.
You whined about this before, and we explained it then as well. That's not a glitch either, you're just stupid.
Maybe you will find this game more to your liking? I hope so.
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Damn straight hub. Excellent post and to the point.
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That's not a glitch either, you're just stupid.
:rofl :rofl
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Somehow i see a Rule 4 and 5 violation coming in someones future. Just because he fails to comprehend the explanations given to him is really no reason to call him names.
I actually understand his frustration but i think he fails to grasp that this is caused by issues beyond AH control IMO. I wonder if he blames AH/HT for disco's also? ;)
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This is a game , and not isn't very accurate in alot of areas. Friendly ack shouldn't kill you. If you want to say that then we could alos say why can we fly through friendly aircraft? Why do we have kill shot? ETC.
Say that to P51 pilots killed by friendly ack new years day of '45 believe we lost a few good mustang aces too.
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People may have taken you more seriously if you had spelled 'glitch' correctly. I doubt it though.
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Somehow i see a Rule 4 and 5 violation coming in someones future.
You might also want to check out Rule #6. :)
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You might also want to check out Rule #6. :)
Skuzzy could have blindsided him with that one Baddy! <slap> "Here Baddy, drink this, yes drink up." :devil
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Say that to P51 pilots killed by friendly ack new years day of '45 believe we lost a few good mustang aces too.
They lost the best one of them all on Christmas day
During the Battle of the Bulge in December 1944, elements of the group were moved to fighter strip Y-29, Asche, Belgium. On Christmas Eve, Preddy indulged in a game of craps and scooped the pot to win $1200, which he intended to invest in war bonds. On Christmas Day, Preddy led 10 of his P-51s on a patrol. They were vectored to a formation of enemy planes, and in the ensuing fight, though the squadron became scattered, Preddy downed two more Bf-109s. He and his wingman, Lt. James Cartee, were then vectored to an unknown number of bandits near Liege. Preddy saw a FW-190 on the deck and went after him at treetop height. As they roared over American ack-ack batteries, Preddy was hit by friendly ground fire and killed, probably by the bullets from the quad 50s.
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That happened more than some would like to think.
Rod367th's father would "bring captured Japanese planes to USAAF bases". I believe I recall him being "shot at, almost everytime."
Don't forget the Invasion of Sicily. About 10 C-47's I believe were shot down.
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Not to worry, CMustard isn't happy unless he is miserable :)
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Hello HTC and critics ,
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah :cry waaaaaaaaaaaah <1> :cry waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Skuzzy could have blindsided him with that one Baddy! <slap> "Here Baddy, drink this, yes drink up." :devil
Hey, I'm all about passin' out da clues.
My, thas some tasty Koolaid!!! :)
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I cant help but agree with the ack part, to a degree.
it shouldent hit friendlies ON THE GROUND.
more than once ive gone to an airfield under attack.. upped, and the second I hit the runway I take damage from friendly ack firing at a con on the deck.
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I cant help but agree with the ack part, to a degree.
it shouldent hit friendlies ON THE GROUND.
more than once ive gone to an airfield under attack.. upped, and the second I hit the runway I take damage from friendly ack firing at a con on the deck.
Why wouldn't it? It's not like bullets are selective :)
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Why wouldn't it? It's not like bullets are selective :)
so in real life a base's ack gunners would shoot through friendly manned aircraft as they prepare to take off?
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so in real life a base's ack gunners would shoot through friendly manned aircraft as they prepare to take off?
Common practice for the Italians. I read it on Wiki.
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THIS WAS FARKING FUNNYEST POST ALL YEAR :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
however there is still problems with bailing with someone riding with you.
there is still problems with joining others in GV's
not a big deal tho i would love to see the gv thing fixed that would be nice. when i was with the LTARs we use to kick some arse having one drive and the other shoot. pluss its a ton of fun too
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so in real life a base's ack gunners would shoot through friendly manned aircraft as they prepare to take off?
Imagine it's January 1, 1945 and you are in an Allied fighter at any of a number of bases on the continent. All kinds of LW fighters come roaring across the fields shooting as it's Operation Bodenplatte. AA is firing like mad, and you are starting to roll. A flak gun tracks a 109 racing low across the field and they are firing. They're not looking at anything but that 109 as you cross the path between gun and 109. You get hit by the cross fire.
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I have several time been leading tanks, waiting for that next 88mm round to load, following the moving tank in my gunsight, paying no attention to anything but the tank, fired, and hit a tree right in front of my gun. Just an example.
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telescopic narrow view of a tank gunner, not even remotely the same as a AA gunner's view..
find me an account of a WW2 AAA destroying a manned friendly aircraft on the runway as its sitting still about to take off.
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telescopic narrow view of a tank gunner, not even remotely the same as a AA gunner's view..
find me an account of a WW2 AAA destroying a manned friendly aircraft on the runway as its sitting still about to take off.
LOL now it has to be sitting still on the runway?
OK I'll look. But to get started
From Bodenplatte since I used it as an example. 131 Wing airfield at St. Denis-Westrum. "Back at the airfield the first Aa fire was sporadic since the Bofors guns had been covered to protect them from the snow. Soon they were back in action, managing to shoot down one Spitfire in error."
More Bodenplatte "F/L Don Gordon was also returning early when he saw many fighters near Heesch, claiming two FW190s shot down. His aircraft was hit by the defending anti-aircraft fire and he was wounded, crashlanding south of the airfield."
Of course there is the story of the 41st FS P39 pilot in new Guiniea who got a Zeke on his tail and couldn't shake it and ran for the ack, calling in that he was bringing the bandit right across the field. The friendly ack promptly opened up and shot down the P39. The pilot survived a bit banged up and not real happy
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Cmustard, I think you can avoid all this junk so far if you just post any complaints you have in a completely objective way - so no opinions or anything, other than why you dislike something. And please don't act emotional about it. Once you've done that, there's really not too much anyone can complain about in your posts.
As to your points, I'd say that:
1) I don't entirely understand what you're trying to say, but I'll assume that you mean "when a person that you've joined as a gunner bails out, you remain in the plane and go spinning down to the ground with the plane". I see why this happens, however I think it would be more realistic if the gunner were able to bail out as well.
2) I'm really not sure about this point at all.
3) This makes sense, as ack will damage whatever it hits, whether it's an enemy or a friendly aircraft.
As to your later point about puffy ack, I'd agree that something definitely has to be done about it.
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Yossarian
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it looks like you're insulting HTC mustard... I see a mute in your future. :devil
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You might also want to check out Rule #6. :)
Hey wait your just did #6 yourself! :lol Actually i was just making a point to prove my next statement. Just because the guy doesn't get all the explanations we are giving him for his post i wouldn't call him names because of it. I know myself i just haven't gotten it when people try to post and explain something to me.
I think he's confused as to what he thinks is happening with the so called "glitches" and what is really happening or meant to be happening. It's kind of like when you first see a plane warping in the game. Your first instinct is not to think about lag or film it and see what's really going on. I'd say 95% of us the first time we saw a plane warp threw the big "C" word out there.
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This is exactly what happened in real life and therefore not a glitch. Get hit by a shell and you will take damage.
Yeah, in real life, if a bad guy had a friendly on its tail at D200, all guns on a field opened fire pointing at random places in the sky :rofl
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Yeah, in real life, if a bad guy had a friendly on its tail at D200, all guns on a field opened fire pointing at random places in the sky :rofl
:rolleyes:
Completely unlike real life, our auto & puffy ack never fails to identify who the enemy and who the friendly is, and shoot only at the friendly. Accidents still can and will happen.
In real life, ack often shot first and asked questions later. Just read up about "Operation Bodenplatte", where German fighters took tremendous losses from own ack.
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:rolleyes:
Completely unlike real life, our auto & puffy ack never fails to identify who the enemy and who the friendly is, and shoot only at the friendly. Accidents still can and will happen.
In real life, ack often shot first and asked questions later. Just read up about "Operation Bodenplatte", where German fighters took tremendous losses from own ack.
:rofl Comon now. You said "exactly like real life". He is not talking about the puffy bs.
In real life, my guess is that ack would not open fire in that case
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In real life, my guess is that ack would not open fire in that case
You are wrong. Ack had a hard time identifying low & fast targets. Usually they shot at everything that approached their positions in that way.
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You are wrong. Ack had a hard time identifying low & fast targets. Usually they shot at everything that approached their positions in that way.
Gun on an airfield right? The would have a friendly firing at a bad guy and they would open fire?
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This is a game , and not isn't very accurate in alot of areas. Friendly ack shouldn't kill you. If you want to say that then we could alos (EDIT: also END EDIT) say why can we fly through friendly aircraft? Why do we have kill shot? ETC.
ack is ack... regardless of who shoots it. Once fired it is every bit a leathal to any aircraft it hits. Maybe if people didn't hug the ack so much (I will not mention names cmustard) they wouldn't have to worry about it. Friendly fire ack hitting me is so rare that I can only recall getting hit once (a ping only, no damage) in the last 6 months.
Long range naval 5 inch puffy ack is usually an indication that there is a skilled gunner in one of the CV 5 inchers, and should give you pause about continuing on your current course and speed. I've gotten kills on 234s at 5K (and closing) in a 5 inch... stay away from my CV when I'm in a 5 inch... <S> Killing perk rides is a special pleasure!
Manned guns will not kill a friendly and you can't killshoot yourself in a manned gun... I've lit cmustard up a few times hoping that this was not the case.
Leave the ack alone HTC, it is fine just the way it is.
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This is why cmustard needs to learn hiding in his own ack is not going to save him all the time :aok
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Though I have not a real problem with ack, but what C-mustard said happened to me few times also, but I never gave much thought about it.
But i think the whole debate here about ack went to crap when trying to find a connection with real life. I mean, come on, give us, to all the rest off us here, give us a break. Show some mercy. How can you imply about real life situations, when friendly collisions and friendly fire are “of”. Since ack is friendly, at least this is what I suspect, they should be likewise in the “off mode” regarding making any damage to friendly planes. Set friendly collisions “on” and friendly fire “on” also and then and only then do the same thing with ack.
I hope u understand my Greek-English lol
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I hope u understand my Greek-English lol
I did :D
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I hate that glitch where other players come in with all kinds of alt, then run like school girls soon as they lost their advantage. It's score ho's glitch or something.. I wish HTC would fix that one.
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I did :D
at least i found one that did !!! :aok Thats great lol
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Common practice for the Italians. I read it on Wiki.
:furious LIAR!!!!!!
Panos, I got that, too ;) and I agree. I've been hit by friendly ack a lot of times, it's just a nuisance, but, since we have no friendly collisions and no friendly fire, I can't see why we shouldn't have friendly ack neutered.
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:furious LIAR!!!!!!
Panos, I got that, too ;) and I agree. I've been hit by friendly ack a lot of times, it's just a nuisance, but, since we have no friendly collisions and no friendly fire, I can't see why we shouldn't have friendly ack neutered.
Bah, you are going to dip. I only got it because I speak the same language :rofl
BTW, don't care about ack. Just arguing with Lusch :D
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Just because the guy doesn't get all the explanations we are giving him for his post i wouldn't call him names because of it.
I don't believe anyone has called him "names" because he doesn't 'get it'. He's been called names because he posted a thread like a 5 year old pitching a temper tantrum. (...in keeping with the rule stuff we have going on...:)) You might call it "Rule #18"...."Pitch a temper tantrum in the BBS and you can expect to be ridiculed for it". :aok
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I haven't had this happen since I got a decent connection. It is a pain though.
That's not a glitch, you're just doing it wrong.
You whined about this before, and we explained it then as well. That's not a glitch either, you're just stupid.
Maybe you will find this game more to your liking? I hope so.
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:rofl :rofl :rofl
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I don't believe anyone has called him "names" because he doesn't 'get it'. He's been called names because he posted a thread like a 5 year old pitching a temper tantrum. (...in keeping with the rule stuff we have going on...:)) You might call it "Rule #18"...."Pitch a temper tantrum in the BBS and you can expect to be ridiculed for it". :aok
Actually someone called him "stupid"! I don't think he is he just isn't picking up what we are trying to tell him. That's not stupid just a failure to comprehend. My recommendation to him is, film it, turn it in to AH/HT and let them explain it to him.
I can't remember the last time i got hit by friendly ack. Then again i constantly move direction/alt as soon as the first burst goes off. ;) If you stay staight and level, or close on a con through the ack, IMO you deserve to be hit. Bombers are the exception to the rule as i agree the laser ack is way out of control.
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I think you're the one failing to comprehend.
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:rofl That's a good one.
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Say that to P51 pilots killed by friendly ack new years day of '45 believe we lost a few good mustang aces too.
THIS IS A GAME , THEY DIDNT DESIGN THAT , ITS GLITCH. The game isnt that realistic , if it was , they'd have to fix alot more glitches first...
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THIS IS A GAME , THEY DIDNT DESIGN THAT , ITS GLITCH. The game isnt that realistic , if it was , they'd have to fix alot more glitches first...
Get off of your father's computer. Better yet, cancel your account. You are NOT an "asset to this Community". you'r a pre-pubescent whiner who is now telling HTC "he doesn't know chit". Go play Hop Scotch with your little brother.
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Come on Karaya....we're the adults here. Lead by example.
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Come on Karaya....we're the adults here. Lead by example.
I am. When he "called out HTC", he should have deleted the post.
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THIS IS A GAME , THEY DIDNT DESIGN THAT , ITS GLITCH. The game isnt that realistic , if it was , they'd have to fix alot more glitches first...
If you want people to take you seriously you must conduct yourself in a more mature way.
How on earth could you possibly know that HTC didn't design friendly ack to be dangerous? The solution is simple, you can clearly see where every ack stream is shooting.... if it's shooting in front of you.... don't fly into it. If you're trying to land and the field ack as is shooting across the runway.... land on the big pad.
I have noticed that you do this sort of thing a lot. You make blind assumptions and sit there swearing until you're blue in the face that what you have assumed is true. I've said this to you before and I'll say it again, read a book and get the facts before you start claiming that you know everything, please.
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THIS IS A GAME , THEY DIDNT DESIGN THAT , ITS GLITCH. The game isnt that realistic , if it was , they'd have to fix alot more glitches first...
I don't think it can be made any more obvious than this.
It isn't a bug, it is supposed to damage friendly's it just does not aim at them.
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Bah, you are going to dip.
Off topic language question: does the above mean that I understood by intuition and guessing?
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off topic 2
I hope not Gian. I hope my english are not so bud so u have to guess in oder to undustand lit ol
btw ur english are excellent