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Title: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: Swoop on June 17, 2008, 03:21:18 AM
To wave or not to wave. That is not the question. Said topic has been dealt with elsewhere, ad nauseam. Suffice it to say that the choice is entirely yours: Wave first, wave back or don't wave at all. However, if you do decide to wave, then the Waving Code that all Real Bikers share needs to be committed to memory and implemented correctly.

The historical origin of the wave is attributed to armored knights on horseback. When approached by another knight bearing the same coat of arms, both knights would raise their helmets' visors to reveal their identities to each other. When knights were not in armor, the lifting of the visor was transformed into a salute, employing a similar motion of the arm and hand.

In the early days of motorcycling, two-wheeled warriors of the open road began greeting each other in passing with a knight-like salute. Nowadays, according to experts on waving protocol, the waves exchanged by bikers are determined by the kinds of bikes they are riding. The major categories are sportbikes, metric cruising/touring bikes, and genuine Harley-Davidsons. Anything else with a motor and two wheels is considered to be just a motor-bike.

Sportbikes, be they naked or faired, are designed to be pushed to scary limits by competent pilots of the non-squidly persuasion. Due to their awesome power and handling, they deserve special recognition with a specific salute. Don't expect a sportbike pilot to remove hand from grip when their bike is cranked over in a turn. While showering sparks onto pavement, the best riders may actually manage a subtle lifting of the left index finger. Consequently, waving at sportbikes by wiggling your index finger is considered the proper salute. If you are riding an inline-four and aren't preoccupied with scraping noises emanating from your footpeg, you may want to wave by raising all four fingers while leaving your left thumb curled under the grip. Ducati riders may similarly modify the standard sportbike salute, using two fingers to symbolize their twins.

There are a couple of other hand gestures shared by sportbike riders that are worth mentioning. If you have recently eluded a speed trap on your crotch-rocket and encounter oncoming sportbike riders, pat the top of your helmet to let them know there's fuzz up ahead. On the other hand, if the section of highway you've just burned up is not infested with gun-toting kill-joys trying to enforce speed limits meant for cagers, you may want to signal with a thumbs-up, just to let the other bikers know that they, too, can go for it.

Japanese metric cruisers and baggers, while undeniably offering the best bang for the buck in the forward-foot-control genre, just don't have enough innate character to garner the respect of bikers whose loyalties lie elsewhere. While heavily customized versions may receive admiration at bike shows, their riders tend to feel like Rodney Dangerfield when on the road. If you don't ride rice and want to avoid the appearance of snobbery, you may acknowledge these Oriental economic miracles by raising your left hand vertically, keeping your elbow close to your side so as not to imitate a right-turn hand signal. Keeping your fingers curled, touch your left thumb to your index finger as if pinching a penny. If you are riding a metric cruiser, open your left hand while maintaining thumb to forefinger contact, and form the universally recognized sign for "O.K., Dude!"

The venerable Harley-Davidson is the only motorcycle worthy of the V-Twin salute. A "V for Victory" or "Peace, Brother" symbol is formed with the index and middle fingers, and delivered with a slow extension of the left arm, downward at a 45-degree angle. If you own a Harley and have acquired the all-too-common "Harleyer than Thou" attitude towards other coats of arms, upon discovering that the approaching bike is actually a Japanese imposter you can simply retract your index finger. Depending upon the extent of your air-cooled bigotry, you may want to give an approaching V-Rod rider the same one-finger salute. Unless, of course, you are also riding a V-Rod, in which case a shoulder shrug is probably sufficient.

Should you encounter an off-brand American cruiser, a chopper, a Euro-bike that is not of the sporting variety, or a Japanese model other than cruiser, bagger or sportbike, a quasi-salute is optional. This can be accomplished with a brief opening of your left hand, just above the grip. However, if you happen to be riding the very same kind of motorcycle, then by all means feel free to make a fool of yourself by gesticulating wildly.

When it comes to waving etiquette, there remain several murky areas still being hotly debated. For example, should passengers wave to other passengers, thereby sharing pillion empathy? If you are of the waving persuasion, should you greet everyone coming the other way on your poker run? If there is a large group of oncoming riders, and their motorcycles represent a mixed bag, should you give the entire group one continuous, generic wave, or should you greet each rider individually with a wave that is politically correct for their specific mount? If you can accomplish the latter at 50 miles per hour, you can probably count cards in Vegas.

There is one more thing that needs to be said here. While it is perfectly acceptable for bikers to return in kind the waves of pedestrians, be they inquisitive children or envious adults, Real Bikers never wave back at grown-ups on bicycles, mopeds or motor-scooters. If you'll feel guilt-ridden for not being oh-so polite, then perhaps a simple nod of the head in recognition of their existence would ease your conscience. Just hope that your riding buddies don't notice!


Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: Swoop on June 17, 2008, 03:22:10 AM

Why They Don't Wave Back

Every once in a while, somebody starts whining about Harley riders not waving back. Before those whiners dismiss all Harley riders as mean-spirited, they should consider that there are probably very good reasons why their waves are not being returned....

Top Ten Reasons Why Harley Riders Don't Wave Back

10. They're afraid it will invalidate their factory warranty.
9. Leather and studs make it too hard to raise their arm.
8. They refuse to wave to anyone whose bike is already paid for.
7. They won't let go of handlebars because they might vibrate off.
6. The rushing wind could blow the scabs off their new tattoos.
5. They're angry over the second mortgage needed to pay for the new Harley.
4. They just discovered the fine print in their owner's manual revealing that The Motor Company is partially owned by rice-burner manufacturers.
3. They can't tell if other riders are actually waving or just reaching up to cover their ears, like everyone else.
2. If they wave back, they risk being impaled on their spiked helmet.
1. They're upset that after spending $30,000, they still don't own a bike that's as comfortable as a Goldwing.

To be totally fair, let it be noted that sometimes Goldwing riders don't wave back, either. Again, to facilitate a better understanding....

Top Ten Reasons Why Goldwing Riders Don't Wave Back

10. They aren't sure whether the other rider is waving or making an obscene gesture.
9. They risk getting frostbite if they take their hand off the heated grip.
8. They have arthritis and it is difficult to raise their arm.
7. The reflection from the etched windshield was momentarily blinding.
6. The on-board espresso machine had just finished.
5. They were asleep when other rider waved.
4. They were involved in a three-way conference call with their stock broker and accessories dealer.
3. They were distracted by an oddly shaped blip on their radar screen.
2. They were simultaneously adjusting the air suspension, seat height, programmable CD player, seat temperature and satellite navigation system.
1. They couldn't find the "auto wave-back" button on their dashboard.

Top 10 Reasons Sportbikers Don't Wave:

10. They have not been riding long enough to know they're supposed to.
9. They're going too fast to have time enough to register the movement and respond.
8. You weren't wearing bright enough gear.
7. If they stick their arm out going that fast they'll rip it out of the socket.
6. They're too occupied with trying to get rid of their chicken strips.
5. They look way too cool with both hands on the bars or they don't want to unbalance themselves while standing on the tank.
4. Their skin tight-kevlar-ballistic-nylon-kangaroo-leather suits prevent any position other than fetal.
3. Raising an arm allows bugs into the armholes of their tank tops.
2. It's too hard to do one-handed stoppies.
1. They were too busy slipping their flip-flop back on.

Top Ten Reasons Why BMW Riders Don't Wave Back

10. New Aerostich suit too stiff to raise arm.
9. Removing a hand from the bars is considered "bad form."
8. Your bike isn't weird enough looking to justify acknowledgment.
7. Too sore from an 800-mile day on a stock "comfort" seat.
6. Too busy programming the GPS, monitoring radar, listening to iPod, XM, or talking on the cell phone.
5. He's an Iron Butt rider and you're not!.
4. Wires from Gerbings is too short.
3. You're not riding the "right kind" of BMW.
2. You haven't been properly introduced.
1. Afraid it will be misinterpreted as a friendly gesture.

And Finally...

Top Ten reasons Metric Cruiser Riders don't wave back

10. New leather jacket was purchased at the same size as suit jacket.
9. Didn't know that the bike wouldn't fly off the road if left hand was removed.
8. Was looking at the handle bars wondering what accessory could mount where.
7. Was wildly grasping at some valve under seat. (3.7 gals BAH!)
6. Rider was actually pulling up black socks and pulling down on jeans trying to close a few air gaps.
5. Rider was too caught up in reciting his mantra 'Left hand clutch' 'Right hand Gas AND Front brake' 'Left foot Gears' 'Right foot Rear brake' 'And for Gods sake Both feet down at light'.
4. Waved after you went by. You just thought they didn't wave.
3. Was searching GPS to find local Bike wash.
2. Rider wasn't really waving, was doing wind airfoil test with hand and arm.
1. Rider was involved in trying to get new throttle stop to STOP.
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: SD67 on June 17, 2008, 04:03:51 AM
:rofl
It's all true!
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: Dowding on June 17, 2008, 04:08:46 AM
Bikers are their own worst enemy.
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: SD67 on June 17, 2008, 04:10:34 AM
Nooooooooooooo
Volvo's are the natural enemy of the motorcycle!
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: Dowding on June 17, 2008, 04:50:11 AM
Actually, you're probably right. :D

Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: Pei on June 17, 2008, 05:27:28 AM
I've generally noticed that cruiser and BMW riders don't wave. Most people reckon Ducati riders don't wave to non-Ducati riders but I haven't seen this - though I ride an Aprilia so I might be considered an honourary Ducatisti.

Dowding: car drivers are motorcyclists worst enemy. The ones who don't bother to look are bad but there are those who look but don't see as well.
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: Swoop on June 17, 2008, 05:31:53 AM
Actually I'd rate truck drivers as being more dangerous than anything else.  The only times I've really been in fear for my life (or legs anyway) have involved an aggressively driven truck.
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: Dowding on June 17, 2008, 05:51:54 AM
I live in an area of the country where you get alot of motor-cyclists roaring through my village, tearing away from the lights at 200 dB as if they were riding in the Moto GP. Zero consideration for anyone but themselves. On a sunny day, it gets annoying very quickly and I wish they would all shreck off.

When I drive around here, the majority of bikers are pretty considerate. But there is a significant minority of titheads who act like they own the road, and do stupid speeds on dangerous sections of it, forcing you to look out for their safety by slowing down to allow them to complete some ridiculous overtaking manoever. I wish they would shreck off too.

This is coming from someone who actually likes watching bike racing. Just not on the road outside my house.
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: MiloMorai on June 17, 2008, 06:33:36 AM
Nooooooooooooo
Volvo's are the natural enemy of the motorcycle!

LOL. I will tell you this, every time I am on the bike, or even driving the car, if I am around a Volvo I am extra careful. This from many years of near misses when near a Volvo.
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: CAP1 on June 17, 2008, 07:51:08 AM
Why They Don't Wave Back

Every once in a while, somebody starts whining about Harley riders not waving back. Before those whiners dismiss all Harley riders as mean-spirited, they should consider that there are probably very good reasons why their waves are not being returned....


because it's aggravatring to wave back when they're broken down on the side of the road? :rofl
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: lazs2 on June 17, 2008, 08:14:01 AM
I dunno..  Back when I rode Harley's you waved at other Harley's but not jap bikes. 

Now I have a 35 year old BMW rat bike.. the BMW owners are about the only people who seem to know what it even is and they look at the cobweb covered and faded paint thing with a kind of mixture of fear and loathing.

Most other bikers are too busy staring at it and trying to figure out what it is to even wave.   When I take my 6 year old grand daughter for a ride on it all the women seem to smile a lot and wave.. Some men give a thumbs up or laugh.. she really likes that.

lazs
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: SpazMan on June 17, 2008, 08:16:23 AM
I wave to anyone on a real bike, crotch rocket, cruiser, HD, sport bike, even though I ride a Harley. I also ride with a variety of non Harley riders.  :D

Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: CAP1 on June 17, 2008, 08:34:18 AM
I wave to anyone on a real bike, crotch rocket, cruiser, HD, sport bike, even though I ride a Harley. I also ride with a variety of non Harley riders.  :D



well, todays harley rides seem different than those of even just 10 years ago. i think they're finally getting it..that a bike is a bike. for reliability though, i'll never own a harley. besides, if i can afford a harley, i can afford my own cessna, which would be MUCH more fun :D

<<S>>
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: indy007 on June 17, 2008, 08:42:39 AM
well, todays harley rides seem different than those of even just 10 years ago. i think they're finally getting it..that a bike is a bike. for reliability though, i'll never own a harley. besides, if i can afford a harley, i can afford my own cessna, which would be MUCH more fun :D

<<S>>

The Harley will get you to where you're going faster.  :lol
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: Swoop on June 17, 2008, 08:50:33 AM
But not fastest.....

Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: CAP1 on June 17, 2008, 08:52:50 AM
The Harley will get you to where you're going faster.  :lol
:rofl :rofl


that's assuming it doesn't break down on the way!! :rofl :rofl :rofl

<<S>>
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: SpazMan on June 17, 2008, 09:24:57 AM
well, todays harley rides seem different than those of even just 10 years ago. i think they're finally getting it..that a bike is a bike. for reliability though, i'll never own a harley. besides, if i can afford a harley, i can afford my own cessna, which would be MUCH more fun :D

<<S>>

The way I see it we are all brothers on 2 wheels. Fortunately my Harley is paid for and it's a good runner. I haven't any major problems with it.

Flying would be fun except you haven't seen me try to land yet... :o
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: Mustaine on June 17, 2008, 11:29:40 AM
if i can afford a harley, i can afford my own cessna,

<-- Lives in Milwaukee, WI and I generally don't like Harleys. Morons tearing out rattling the windows at 6 AM, they are just too loud and annoying.

Though with the annual Harley-fest and ZZ Top coming this year I want to ride one down there.
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: MiloMorai on June 17, 2008, 11:57:53 AM
I dunno..  Back when I rode Harley's you waved at other Harley's but not jap bikes.

The 'boys' on the Harleys waved to me all the time. Impressed them with a 15' strip of rubber from my Yamaha 100cc Twin Jet when I left their bike shop.

As for reliability of HD, my 2000 FXST has 50k miles without any troubles and I ain't meticulous about doing maintainance. Right out of the dealership did a 15k mile cross country road trip.
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: Maverick on June 17, 2008, 01:03:10 PM
<Yawn> I ride for my own reasons not to get other motorcyclists to wave at me. I'll wave (I ride a beemer) and I don't really care if the other rider waves or not.
 :huh
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: SpazMan on June 17, 2008, 01:51:01 PM
<-- Lives in Milwaukee, WI and I generally don't like Harleys. Morons tearing out rattling the windows at 6 AM, they are just too loud and annoying.

Though with the annual Harley-fest and ZZ Top coming this year I want to ride one down there.

That be me and I like setting off car alarms too..... :P
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: SirLoin on June 17, 2008, 02:50:52 PM
Did u write that Swoop?..EHHEH!!

 :aok
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: Hawk78th on June 17, 2008, 04:32:40 PM
  Couple years ago---- :D...'Twas Riding my Triumph Sprint (Silver 's the fastest by the way..)& nonchalantly  gave a Flip of my Left... :rock at  what I THOUGHT was an ..... Kawi 650 ( ninja)..   

... Now, just as I thought better of  this "flip"... :pray I was  going thru my decision making and getting that sickening/bile inducing, stomach wrenching god awful heartbreaking feeling.... :(


     " GawdDa&&mnit.. That was a Freeking MOPED on steroids...NO G*damn footpegs (BIG 'ol pad to put your feet on).. NO freeking shifter.. & NO freeking gas tank"  I said to nobody.. :mad:

 ( Sooo badly wanted to wash my hands after that)
 

<- apologized to the Sprint-- Tapped her lightly on the " cap".. & swore to NEVER flip to another ** Possible Mopedy looking freak of nature,  two wheeler cheater, again...

 Now..  if it's a Big (enough) bike.. I'll wave---> ** 'cept to those Harley "Hangon to those handlebars 'cause I might  fall off, it rattles soooo much" drivers who never wave anyway...



  Since then...I've been pleasantly " Sprinting" around the NewEngland twisty's, always on the look out.


 :P



Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: Roundeye on June 17, 2008, 07:39:05 PM

As for reliability of HD, my 2000 FXST has 50k miles without any troubles and I ain't meticulous about doing maintainance. Right out of the dealership did a 15k mile cross country road trip.


Roger that.  No trouble out of any of my Harleys either. 

Some folks just don't get it.  They love to poke fun at something they know nothing about....its mildly amusing.  I don't hold it against them though.  I did the same thing years ago.  Made comments about them breaking down, etc.  Deep down I always wanted one though.  Only after I owned and became familiar with them did I see how stupid I must have sounded to those that really knew.  Jokes are fine and taken as such as long as someone can take what they are dishing out.

And BTW, I wave at any and all motorcycles.  We are all out there doing the same thing enjoying the same lifestyle and taking the same risks doing it. 

To echo what I've said in an earlier post:  I've never met a motorcycle I didn't like, but I have met some motorcycle riders who were @&*holes.
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: Swoop on June 17, 2008, 07:56:50 PM
Funny, I'd never heard that Harley's were unreliable....

It's Italian bikes I take the mickey out of, Ducati's especially.  It's funny, everyone I've ever known with a Ducati has had the bike in the workshop every other weekend cos something has fallen off it. 

Now I've got a mechanic I trust, been going to him for 17 years now.  No-one else gets to service my bikes, I was even riding 400 miles back from Holland when I lived there.  He's a big Duke fan, s'got a 996.....and I take the mickey out of him as well.  Last time I was up there he said "Nah, it's all a falacy, Ducati's are perfectly reliable."

"Where's yours btw?"

"Er.....it's in bits in the back cos it needed a new clutch."

heh
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: hubsonfire on June 17, 2008, 08:01:10 PM
Good post, Swoop, got a laugh out of that. I realized the waving thing a few years back when I was riding my buddy's old beater Yamaha- waving to all the Paulie Tutel wannabe's and watching them frown was comical.

Lazs, when you're too old to ride, I want that bike. Mid July maybe? :)

Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: 442w30 on June 17, 2008, 09:39:37 PM
  Couple years ago---- :D...'Twas Riding my Triumph Sprint (Silver 's the fastest by the way..)& nonchalantly  gave a Flip of my Left... :rock at  what I THOUGHT was an ..... Kawi 650 ( ninja)..   

... Now, just as I thought better of  this "flip"... :pray I was  going thru my decision making and getting that sickening/bile inducing, stomach wrenching god awful heartbreaking feeling.... :(


     " GawdDa&&mnit.. That was a Freeking MOPED on steroids...NO G*damn footpegs (BIG 'ol pad to put your feet on).. NO freeking shifter.. & NO freeking gas tank"  I said to nobody.. :mad:

 ( Sooo badly wanted to wash my hands after that)
 

<- apologized to the Sprint-- Tapped her lightly on the " cap".. & swore to NEVER flip to another ** Possible Mopedy looking freak of nature,  two wheeler cheater, again...

 Now..  if it's a Big (enough) bike.. I'll wave---> ** 'cept to those Harley "Hangon to those handlebars 'cause I might  fall off, it rattles soooo much" drivers who never wave anyway...



  Since then...I've been pleasantly " Sprinting" around the NewEngland twisty's, always on the look out.


 :P

I wave at scooters all the time, on purpose, on my sport bike.  The scoot riders never seem to know what to do about the wave. They always look like I have some important meaning behind it.  I snicker every time.




Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: 442w30 on June 17, 2008, 09:45:08 PM
Why They Don't Wave Back

Top 10 Reasons Sportbikers Don't Wave:

10. They have not been riding long enough to know they're supposed to.
9. They're going too fast to have time enough to register the movement and respond.
8. You weren't wearing bright enough gear.
7. If they stick their arm out going that fast they'll rip it out of the socket.
6. They're too occupied with trying to get rid of their chicken strips.
4. Their skin tight-kevlar-ballistic-nylon-kangaroo-leather suits prevent any position other than fetal.


Top Ten Reasons Why BMW Riders Don't Wave Back


5. He's an Iron Butt rider and you're not!.


Uh-oh what do I do?  My chicken strips are gone and I have an Iron Butt SS1k certificate on a sport bike.  (and a few from an FJR- piece of cake on that though)

Its funny, BMW riders wave at me on the Feejer but not on the sport bike.  Harley or metric cruiser riders seldom wave at me on either. 
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: bj229r on June 17, 2008, 10:26:04 PM
I nod my head 1 millimeter for crotch rockets, look away pathetically at jap-Harley copies---not sure what to think about Beemers, so I give them perfunctory wave from wrist only :D

<note: the Harleys that 'broke down' were the ones from the 70's--AMF--'Shovels'--few of which are still on the road. Since early 80's, they are like Jap bikes from reliability standpoint. At any rate, if you don't know how to fix what's wrong with a pre-electronic-ignition Harley, you probably need to own a Goldwing or a Beemer. In 13 years, the only thing that ever put my '62 Pan on side of road was shorted cell on battery (CAN'T have that with generator), and a broken regulator bracket (combination of tie-wraps and electrical tape got me home ;))>
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: Kaw1000 on June 17, 2008, 10:48:17 PM
Lets see....120 mile bike trip...go past 200 bikes along the way....thats 200 waves....too many waves for me.
Its over kill anymore....Corvette owners do the wave thing...but their is not that many Vettes on the road!
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: 59funkman on June 17, 2008, 11:27:33 PM
I usually give the Harley-riding Village People lookalikes the limp wristed wave.
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: SpazMan on June 18, 2008, 08:04:47 AM
The 'boys' on the Harleys waved to me all the time. Impressed them with a 15' strip of rubber from my Yamaha 100cc Twin Jet when I left their bike shop.

As for reliability of HD, my 2000 FXST has 50k miles without any troubles and I ain't meticulous about doing maintainance. Right out of the dealership did a 15k mile cross country road trip.

I have a 2001 FXST and have 34,500 miles on it. I just change the fluids every year and go.  :aok
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: lazs2 on June 18, 2008, 08:09:33 AM
hubsie.. according to a lot of people I am too old to do a lot of things right now..   I still do em tho.   My dad builds homes and hot rods.. he is 80.  he just put a new closed drive line in his 40 chevy hot rod.

I don't ride much anymore..  droning down the freeway just doesn't do it for me anymore.   I take little 20-50 mile trips on back roads and such.   Give the grand daughter a ride around town in the cool of the morning or evening going to the store or park.   The bike sits in a shed or under a carport and has pine needles and cobwebs on it and the paint is faded badly.. it smokes out of one cyl for a minute if you leave it on the sidestand for any length of time and the oiler tubes leak a little on that side.   It fires right up and runs smooth as can be going down the road at 80 tho.



lazs
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: Jackal1 on June 18, 2008, 08:22:42 AM
When I`m riding and someone waves, I wave back.

May snicker a l`il at some.........but I wave.  :D
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: Mustaine on June 25, 2008, 10:28:26 PM
Umm, more true than you think  :rofl

MAN did I get a dirty look from a guy on a harley with ape hangars, bandanna, leather vest, and straight pipes with an open hand on the bar wave.  :O :rofl
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: moot on June 25, 2008, 10:36:42 PM
All that matters is the ride.
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: Xargos on June 26, 2008, 12:30:34 AM
The bike sits in a shed or under a carport and has pine needles and cobwebs on it and the paint is faded badly.. it smokes out of one cyl for a minute if you leave it on the sidestand for any length of time and the oiler tubes leak a little on that side.   It fires right up and runs smooth as can be going down the road at 80 tho.



lazs

One out of ten Beemers will have blue smoke come out the exhaust when they first fire-up, even when they are brand new.  I know guys who got 50 miles to the gallon when their Beemers were new and still get 50 miles to the gallon with 200,000 miles on them.

Of all the bikes I've owned, the R100RS was my favorite.

BMW's are pace bikes, they can have a nasty pitch if you like to touch the breaks a lot (most have at least six inches of fork travel).  However, if you like to get on the back roads and do a constant 80 - 100 miles an hour over a long period of time, they're great.
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: SpazMan on June 26, 2008, 08:29:54 AM
Umm, more true than you think  :rofl

MAN did I get a dirty look from a guy on a harley with ape hangars, bandanna, leather vest, and straight pipes with an open hand on the bar wave.  :O :rofl

Funny you should say that. This past weekend I was up in the mountains doing a weekend ride. My buddy and I were parked at a gas station (he has a cruiser Yamaha V-star series) and a guy on a Harley with are hangers rides by and I give him a wave. Well he snubs me and keeps going. A few minutes later my bud and I are riding down the road and we pass this guy pulled over by a trooper hassling him about his ape hangers. I look at him laugh and procede to bust on my throttle hard..... :D 

See that's what happens when you are an a-hole..... :rofl
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: lazs2 on June 26, 2008, 08:49:51 AM
yep.. go over speed bumps with a BMW and the forks soak it all up..  quiet and smooth bike.

They look kinda cool too with those big cylinders hanging out both sides

lazs
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: CAP1 on June 28, 2008, 03:32:05 PM
I usually give the Harley-riding Village People lookalikes the limp wristed wave.

i usually give harley riders the thumbs up as i ride past their broken down bikes on the sides of the highways :aok
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: CAP1 on June 28, 2008, 03:35:59 PM
I have a 2001 FXST and have 34,500 miles on it. I just change the fluids every year and go.  :aok

ya know, as much as i bust on harleys.i DO have to asdmit.......somewhere around 95 or so, they seemed to start becomming much more reliable than they ever were......if i was gonna spend a lot of money on another bike, it's be a new harley, or a new goldwing....but then i'm gettin lold now too :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: Deth7 on June 28, 2008, 10:48:48 PM
I ride a Triumph bonneville T-100 07 black and red and even had a couple of harley
riders salute me hehe :cool:
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: Mustaine on June 29, 2008, 12:10:54 AM
I spent the day riding today, a little over 150 miles in and around Milwaukee.

I got no less than 15 waves from Harley's to Goldwing's, always the average guy out for a Saturday cruise. Each of those they were the one to initiate the wave. I started responding with the hand up being a newer rider, but 1/2 way through the day I was a full hand down wave.

I did give a few out first, 7 or 8 full blown Harley biker dudes with ZZ Top beards and bandannas didn't wave back, otherwise I got waves back regardless of the bike.

Funny thing, 3 of the bikes that did a full wave to me first were BMW cruisers. Maybe they just respect the 31 year old bike cruising along like it was just made :aok

Overall, I'd say 25-35 waves over the course of 3 or 4 hours.

Speaking of, man the bike is running great! I am like a junkie, addicted to the slight vibration of the engine, whistle of the wind, total freedom. Riding is an experience like none other. Everywhere you go, even if you have driven the road 1000 times is different than what you are used to. The change in temperature passing a lake or river (or even fresh dark blacktop versus sun bleached pavement), the smells of a wild meadow or farm, the placement of manhole covers in the road. Couped up in a car you just don't experience where exactly you are like on a bike.

I may be a bit cocky, but I got it down, and am extremely comfortable on the bike. The only "trouble" I had today was an unfamiliar intersection. I had just left a gas station on a corner so I was in the right lane of a 3 lane road. While sitting at the stop light I noticed my lane ended in the first 250 feet past the intersection. With a fair bit of traffic I had only 1 option: goose it hard on the green light and get into the other lane. It was the fastest take off I had done on this bike and it was no problem. I settled in well ahead of the other cars right at the speed limit of 45.

I got caught in my first rain today. It was forecasted about 3 the rain would get here and I was about 30 miles from home at 1:30. I saw the clouds getting dark quick so I made a beeline for home. About 7 or 8 miles away the light stuff hit. I was on the expressway and every bike in view stepped it up a notch. "Summerfest" is going on here, and the bikes are out in force. I saw hundreds going the other way on the expressway, and there was a mixed bunch of 5 or 6 ahead of me. I couldn't keep up with them once that rain started. I may be a bit confident, but I wasn't about to go over 65 on wet pavement (I'm not stupid :lol). I did have my rain gear in my backpack, but I figured if I stopped to put it on under an overpass the downpour would be on me by the time I was done. I had called my buddy to let him know I was on the way, and no sooner did I rev up his driveway and park in his garage the gates of Heaven opened and POURED down for 20 solid minutes.

Once it all cleared up I spent another hour tooling around. I only stopped to go home and have a beer and smoke, and call it a day :lol
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: MiloMorai on June 29, 2008, 02:56:31 AM
Mustaine, I hope you weren't wearing that backpack.

The snobbiest bikers around here ride BMWs but then this city is filled with simple servants so one should expect the snobbery.
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: Mustaine on June 29, 2008, 10:22:53 AM
???

Yeah I have a backpack. Where else am I going to hold my smokes, garage opener, cell phones, keys, and hat to cover ym fudged hair whenI take the helmet off?

Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: MiloMorai on June 29, 2008, 10:40:40 AM
???

Yeah I have a backpack. Where else am I going to hold my smokes, garage opener, cell phones, keys, and hat to cover ym fudged hair whenI take the helmet off?

I asked if you wear it on your back while riding, not if you had one.

That is why there are pockets in the jacket.
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: Mustaine on June 29, 2008, 10:43:53 AM
I don't have a jacket yet, yes I wear while riding... also I need to bring my laptop to work, so yes I wear while riding :aok

Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: MiloMorai on June 29, 2008, 10:56:04 AM
Don't come off then as the backpack will do bad things to your shoulders.

Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: texasmom on June 29, 2008, 01:41:34 PM
Yeah I have a backpack. Where else am I going to hold my smokes, garage opener, cell phones, keys, and hat to cover ym fudged hair whenI take the helmet off?
You're going to have to get little saddle bags (is that what they're called?)... then get a man-purse & stick all that crap in it... & stick the man-purse in the saddle bag during your rides. =)
Title: Re: For Mustaine: Biker waving rules.....
Post by: Jackal1 on June 29, 2008, 07:25:49 PM
Got a new set of bags I`ll sell ya reasonable. PM me if interested. <Spam mode OFF>