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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: VWE on June 18, 2008, 07:44:41 PM
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At least 5 sectors... each way just to find someone... thats not my idea of fun.
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Sweet. This is the best AvA setup so far IMO.
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At least 5 sectors... each way just to find someone... thats not my idea of fun.
Look for the bardar and meet them in the middle. Just enough time to get alt and fights on!
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At least 5 sectors... each way just to find someone... thats not my idea of fun.
DA is almost immediate, have fun. :salute
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Sweet. This is the best AvA setup so far IMO.
Agreed!
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Sweet. This is the best AvA setup so far IMO.
For sure. :aok
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VWE what side did you play, what did you play in, how many did you bag and at what altitude did you find them congregating at?
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I flew allies, Tempest-Pony-La7, I bagged 14 (1-109G2, 5-109K4, 1-Fw190A5, 4-Fw190A8, 1-Fw190F8, 1-Ta152, 1-Ju88) for 3 deaths, most were encountered between 20 to 25k including a set of Ju88's at 23k. I went as high as 34k chasing satelites...
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lol wtg. if you were to fly axis the only change would be the planes as these players all employ the same gameplay. oh well. I hope you had fun I don't have enough interest in climbing to those alititudes to chase runners though.
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I've been having fun with this setup. It's not better or worse than others to me, just different and it has kept my attention. This is an evolving arena and they change it up. Sit this one out if you don't like it and perhaps the next war will be different or continue to fly and throw your 2 cents in as you did here. They do listen and make tweaks. The dar bar was new and was intended to help find fights. The Axis were clever last night with their approach on the deck making them hard to find even with dar bar. There was a big furball toward the end of the night that the dar bar helped with, you could see that a big fight was brewing and many from both sides upped for the big fight.
Venom
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DA is almost immediate, have fun. :salute
I don't see why AvA cannot accomodate most aspects of aerial combat. There is nothing wrong with wanting a quick fight. Telling people to head elsewhere is foolish, it's that kind of attitude that contributed to the low numbers of CT. In addition, this is everyones arena. You have no right to tell others to fly somewhere else because they wish to alter an aspect of AvA
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it is my experience that most of the current crop of AvA players simply do not possess the skills to fight nor do they show the inclination to learn. they are content with having non fights and then heartily congratulating each other for their amazing speed and prowess in evading as they successfully drop from 20k to the ack. they will gladly drop from 20k to gang a single player if that player is sufficiently close to their ack and makes his presense announced. the preferred number seems to be between seven and twelve to one odds in their favor and even if you kill two thirds of them and die in ack chasing the other third they declare themselves the winner. I should post film it is hilariously funny but becomes old after three or four "fights". there is really nothing there that even remotely resembles "the battle of the aces". it is false advertising and should be changed to be more represenatative of the fact.
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Thrila, are you saying that all arenas should be vanilla, likable by all? Isn't it diversity that make sure everyone are satisfied? What's wrong with going to a different arena? I don't play MA at all as long as this setup is in the AvA, unless nobody else is in there. MA just doesn't interest me. The DA I've logged on to maybe 20 times max since I started playing AH, years ago.
Do we want diversity or the same flavor in all arenas???
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I've been having fun with this setup. It's not better or worse than others to me, just different and it has kept my attention. This is an evolving arena and they change it up. Sit this one out if you don't like it and perhaps the next war will be different or continue to fly and throw your 2 cents in as you did here. They do listen and make tweaks. The dar bar was new and was intended to help find fights. The Axis were clever last night with their approach on the deck making them hard to find even with dar bar. There was a big furball toward the end of the night that the dar bar helped with, you could see that a big fight was brewing and many from both sides upped for the big fight.
Venom
Major fun.
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Thrila, are you saying that all arenas should be vanilla, likable by all? Isn't it diversity that make sure everyone are satisfied? What's wrong with going to a different arena? I don't play MA at all as long as this setup is in the AvA, unless nobody else is in there. MA just doesn't interest me. The DA I've logged on to maybe 20 times max since I started playing AH, years ago.
Do we want diversity or the same flavor in all arenas???
No, that is not what i'm saying. What i'm saying is that there should be more diversity in AvA. There is no reason why the Ava cannot encompass the "war", the strat bombing, dogfighting, hardcore gamers and casual gamers. IMO having closer bases will enable casual gamers and people who either do not wish to spend 20+ minutes to get to a fight or don't have the time to so, to fly and enjoy the AVA arena. Closer bases will not deny people from flying strat missions or any other organised fighting, it does however enable something for other pilots to do- especially when there are low numbers.
There is nothing wrong going to another arena- being told to go to another arena is entirely different. It isn't in the interest of the AvA to tell people to fly elsewhere.
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No, that is not what i'm saying. What i'm saying is that there should be more diversity in AvA. There is no reason why the Ava cannot encompass the "war", the strat bombing, dogfighting, hardcore gamers and casual gamers. IMO having closer bases will enable casual gamers and people who either do not wish to spend 20+ minutes to get to a fight or don't have the time to so, to fly and enjoy the AVA arena. Closer bases will not deny people from flying strat missions or any other organised fighting, it does however enable something for other pilots to do- especially when there are low numbers.
There is nothing wrong going to another arena- being told to go to another arena is entirely different. It isn't in the interest of the AvA to tell people to fly elsewhere.
Maps will change will each new BoA. Close base combat included. :aok
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He does have a point though.
If you were willing to fly certain planes you could get into some close base combat. Up in the north there were Axis strats practically under an allied base, so all week axis and allies were meeting every few minutes up there. As we harassed each others bases.
Actually most of that time it was the allies harassing axis bases. I haven't actually seen a single Axis Bomber all week. Just 109's and 190's.
If your plane wasn't stationed at the front though yeah this arena would suck. Some of this though will go to Axis, and Allied commanders. Hangers don't stay down long, and in this first round you couldn't take the bases anyway. So it turned out to be ok to move your fighters closer to the front lines.
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"I haven't actually seen a single Axis Bomber all week"
Romulans, always the Romulans.
:noid
Hint: Those Ju88 boys dunna want to be found.
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But what evidence do you have that it's hard to find a fight in AvA? I consider it equally hard, if not harder, to find a good fight in the MA. Where a lot of people fly the "easy mode" a/c and turnfight themselves to death. That's not a good fight imo. For me to consider it a good fight, I want a challenge, someone who actually use his brain and not just his a/c to win. It's sad when you get shot down by a less skilled opponent who's in a superior a/c, but it's your own fault for giving him the opportunity! I think the worst kind of player is the self-centered ego stroker (applies to all people not just AHers). Close 2nd is the guy who can't tell the difference between his own skill, or sometimes lack thereof, and the performance of his a/c vs his opponents, while thinking he's the best pilot around. Thank god, there aren't too many of those nutters around. However, sometimes one is one too many.
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how difficult is it to find a fight in the AvA? surely you are joking! it is much more difficult to find a fight in the current AvA than it is in the MA. furthermore there is now a huge incentive to play timidly and given the overabundance of timid players who now populate the arena the chances of finding any fight let alone a good one are about equal to finding the lock ness monster sipping a margarita in death valley in the shade.
it's a shame too because it used to be that one could log on and be in a fight within five minutes even if there was only one other player on.
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how difficult is it to find a fight in the AvA? surely you are joking! it is much more difficult to find a fight in the current AvA than it is in the MA. furthermore there is now a huge incentive to play timidly and given the overabundance of timid players who now populate the arena the chances of finding any fight let alone a good one are about equal to finding the lock ness monster sipping a margarita in death valley in the shade.
it's a shame too because it used to be that one could log on and be in a fight within five minutes even if there was only one other player on.
Ah, you miss me don't ya storch?
<S> Jenksie
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Some people might actually enjoy looking for a fight. Imagine that! :rofl Some people actually do enjoy the hunt!
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Ah, you miss me don't ya storch?
<S> Jenksie
you have no idea how much :D <S>
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Heh, I got room for ya Jenks. :aok
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Some people might actually enjoy looking for a fight. Imagine that! :rofl Some people actually do enjoy the hunt!
WHat he said :salute
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it is my experience that most of the current crop of AvA players simply do not possess the skills to fight nor do they show the inclination to learn. they are content with having non fights and then heartily congratulating each other for their amazing speed and prowess in evading as they successfully drop from 20k to the ack. they will gladly drop from 20k to gang a single player if that player is sufficiently close to their ack and makes his presense announced. the preferred number seems to be between seven and twelve to one odds in their favor and even if you kill two thirds of them and die in ack chasing the other third they declare themselves the winner. I should post film it is hilariously funny but becomes old after three or four "fights". there is really nothing there that even remotely resembles "the battle of the aces". it is false advertising and should be changed to be more represenatative of the fact.
I have not seen this, actually quite the opposite.
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I have not seen this, actually quite the opposite.
This is actually true, which makes what storch says... complete bollocks. :lol
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I have not seen this, actually quite the opposite.
what times are you on?
the last two times I have been on saturday and sunday last I spent my entire time swatting players who were diving from the airspawn and if I survived the diving attack I had to chase them into their ack.
on one occassion we flew "escort" for the avengers. we suggested to the avengers to announce our target to give the other team an opportunity to intercept and we were rejected. we flew along with them any way but it was about one hour of complete boredom. on both of those days the allieds were porking north toolsheds and the axis south completely avoiding each other.
on sunday I announced that I would be at 73 at 8k and seven members of 353 were perfectly happy to dive down from 20k and gang me. after killing most of them and chasing the survivors to ack on several occassions we JG54 flew into their airspawn and naileded them as they spawned at 20k. after two sorties (for them) they figured out what we were doing and they quit spawning at the airspawn.
the previous day we swatted JG11 runners until we were bored from doing so and left the arena. if these are fights in your opinion than it's your opinion. in my opinion it is nothing of the sort.
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In other words, you are just milk running your score with no interest in the outcome of the war. Switching side as you please, when there are easy kills to get, or to obtain information about where the enemy is.
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My only chance to fly this week was Tuesday evening. Jester and I launched from A73 and headed immediately to the blinking Allied strats. Within 5 minutes we found ourselves engaged with 4 low FW-190s. Jester got one I got a PW, and had to relaunch. The pilots we engaged were JG-11, and Straffo. All were fighting hard, no ack running no running period. On the second flight I found a mixed bag of 190s, and 109s. I was able to down two 190s 1 from JG-11 and the other was Vanscrew, then I was shot down by a JG-11 pilot flying a 109. Great time, enjoyable fights. I've never seen a JG-11 guy run from a fight. They're just as skilled and just as aggresive, if not more so than any other Luftwaffe squad I've seen in here from any crop of any time. Thanks for the good fights everytime I encouter you guys in JG-11.
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I don't worry or care about score. I never have and I never will. as I said I announced my intention to fly in alone to A73 at 8k in a 190.
shifty I wish those types of fights were once again available but when I have been on they are not there. maybe it's because they know that 4 JG54 players = death and they don't want to die.
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My only chance to fly this week was Tuesday evening. Jester and I launched from A73 and headed immediately to the blinking Allied strats. Within 5 minutes we found ourselves engaged with 4 low FW-190s. Jester got one I got a PW, and had to relaunch. The pilots we engaged were JG-11, and Straffo. All were fighting hard, no ack running no running period. On the second flight I found a mixed bag of 190s, and 109s. I was able to down two 190s 1 from JG-11 and the other was Vanscrew, then I was shot down by a JG-11 pilot flying a 109. Great time, enjoyable fights. I've never seen a JG-11 guy run from a fight. They're just as skilled and just as aggresive, if not more so than any other Luftwaffe squad I've seen in here from any crop of any time. Thanks for the good fights everytime I encouter you guys in JG-11.
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Always a good time latley. :aok
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My only chance to fly this week was Tuesday evening. Jester and I launched from A73 and headed immediately to the blinking Allied strats. Within 5 minutes we found ourselves engaged with 4 low FW-190s. Jester got one I got a PW, and had to relaunch. The pilots we engaged were JG-11, and Straffo. All were fighting hard, no ack running no running period. On the second flight I found a mixed bag of 190s, and 109s. I was able to down two 190s 1 from JG-11 and the other was Vanscrew, then I was shot down by a JG-11 pilot flying a 109. Great time, enjoyable fights. I've never seen a JG-11 guy run from a fight. They're just as skilled and just as aggresive, if not more so than any other Luftwaffe squad I've seen in here from any crop of any time. Thanks for the good fights everytime I encouter you guys in JG-11.
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For the good fights! Always a pleasure Sir :salute
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Always a better time when the 49th is about :aok
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I don't see why AvA cannot accomodate most aspects of aerial combat. There is nothing wrong with wanting a quick fight. Telling people to head elsewhere is foolish, it's that kind of attitude that contributed to the low numbers of CT. In addition, this is everyones arena. You have no right to tell others to fly somewhere else because they wish to alter an aspect of AvA
I did not tell him where to fly, Sir, just where to find a quick fight. If it read differently, I appologize. :salute
Edit: typo and last sentence added as an afterthought.
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:lol
Always a better time when the 49th is about :aok
Agreed, and it's nice to see that stories will be challanged, and light shown on them, from members of both sides here. :salute
Now the other night I saw Batfink, emo, Dicho, Venom, all having thier own little DA matchups, on the edge of the battlefield, organized respectfully on ch 200, while 45 other players played the game the way they were playing it. It was good to see.
Plenty of room for everyone, with a postitive attitude.
Check the misinformation at the door though. The guys in here respect eachother because of the fights, not the lack of them.
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Airspawns should be for buffs only, a certain group would only up from A28 last night and twice I flew there from A3 as a lone wolf. I even jumped into 4 on 1 odds as I felt confident as to the outcome. Disable airstarts for the fighters, the incentive should be for buffs only.
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The guys in here respect eachother because of the fights, not the lack of them.
Well said.
Let's all have some fun! :rock
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Airspawns should be for buffs only, a certain group would only up from A28 last night and twice I flew there from A3 as a lone wolf. I even jumped into 4 on 1 odds as I felt confident as to the outcome. Disable airstarts for the fighters, the incentive should be for buffs only.
So allied bombers can come out of the northern air starts, just 1 sector away from 2 of our strats and we have to up from the ground? considering those bombers can get to 30k within those 2 sectors, that seems pretty fair...
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the airstart issue needs to be taken up with the staff. there are three rhine maps available. this one with the airstarts was an SEA map for one specific event. I have no idea how on the one hand the staff stresses that the AvA needs to be realistic and on the other hand utilizes this map when they have a choice not to. I would agree that the airstart could be for bombers only but I also see rider's point of the airstart dumping 20k bombers right on the doorstep of axis bases.
in any event the bomber players you guys have in there now have demonstrated that they have no problem starting from back bases and taking over an hour to bomb the shacks. I believe the only players I have seen utilizing the airstarts are fighters from both sides and the only thing it has served to accomplish is to give these players a good running start at one pass and then to safety of the ack.
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:lol
Agreed, and it's nice to see that stories will be challenged, and light shown on them, from members of both sides here. :salute
Now the other night I saw Batfink, emo, Dicho, Venom, all having their own little DA matchups, on the edge of the battlefield, organized respectfully on ch 200, while 45 other players played the game the way they were playing it. It was good to see.
Plenty of room for everyone, with a positive attitude.
Check the misinformation at the door though. The guys in here respect eachother because of the fights, not the lack of them.
Well said, I enjoy the fights more than ever. They are every bit as intense as they've ever been. The big difference is.. It's refreshing to have a foe that fights like hell in the arena, but you can discuss the fight or any other aspect of the game or WWII aerial combat with in an adult manner once the fight is over. There's a lot of interesting information and material that can be shared after the fight, that you don't get with the old AVA Ghetto attitude.
I like the change, just because the guy flies a plane with different markings doesn't mean you have to treat him like a jerk after fighting him. We're all basically crazy about the same hobby. We don't have to be real enemies, just because we're pixel enemies. Just because you're good at this Sim doesn't make you a man. Bragging about how good you are at it while belittling others doesn't make you a man either. Your behavior and your character is what makes you a man, or less one of one. That's a truth that's been ignored far too long in this arena.
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stories? I'll tell you what stampf put on your game faces because we will be hunting you guys down and we will be filming. we will also post these films, then we'll se about the stories. as soon as we are finished with you we will switch and do the same with the 49th and post those as well. we'll see you players up but you won't like it.
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stories? I'll tell you what stampf put on your game faces because we will be hunting you guys down and we will be filming. we will also post these films, then we'll se about the stories. as soon as we are finished with you we will switch and do the same with the 49th and post those as well. we'll see you players up but you won't like it.
LOL did you finally get it Storch? This whole thread was to give you a reason to come back in without losing face. You do this all the time, you exile yourself from the AVA and say you're not going to fly there because we all suck and you're so wonderful. People used to ask you to come back, but that petered out so the last few times you tell everybody you're leaving... Than you stir the pot on the BBS until you cook up some reason to come back to avenge some perceived outrage. That's all this has been about all day, you needed somebody to say something so you would have a reason to come back after saying you wouldn't. You need new material, this is stuff a child does. You've had this idea for too long the arena belongs to you alone, and you can't stand the thought of other ideas getting tried. Nope gotta have it your way all the time just like a spoiled kid.
What's really bothering you is everybody is enjoying themselves and nobody gives a rat's a** if you're around or not. As far as your threats... Bring it on, your not the scary guy you think you are. You're just an annoyance that can be squelched. You never figured it out, you don't scare anybody, but you sure as hell do annoy them. See ya up there tough guy. :lol
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:eek: Its getting hott in here, :rolleyes:
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:eek: Its getting hott in here, :rolleyes:
Not really, little green riding hood wasn't getting enough attention. So now she's going to have one of her temper tantrums and we're all supposed to be AFRAID. :rolleyes:
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Oh but wait Storch, you swore to the world, just last week, that you would never step foot back into the AvA. I stayed out of all the crap going back and forth in here between you and the community, but when it looks like you may show up and ruin everyones fun in the arena again with your negativity, I have to stand up and ask you to up hold your word and stay away!
Sorry I feel that way, but you have gone out of your way to dissrupt game play and run off players to the point, nobody I can think of wishes to fly with or against you. Hopefully you will at a later time, reconsider your actions and the negative affects they have had on the rest of the players in the arena; at that time you will be welcomed into the arena with open arms.
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Not really, little green riding hood wasn't getting enough attention. So now she's going to have one of her temper tantrums and we're all supposed to be AFRAID. :rolleyes:
Wow, another rule #5 violation... are there no moderators online tonight?
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Wow, another rule #5 violation... are there no moderators online tonight?
Gestapo is out tonight... :noid
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Wow, another rule #5 violation... are there no moderators online tonight?
Guess not... Wonder why that is??
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Skuzzy is on vacation this week. I guess you guys have till monday to build up a nice case of PnG. Have at it :salute
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:rofl
some people can dish it out but can't take it.
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Guess not... Wonder why that is??
Well... I've heard rumours but 'technically' I believe it falls under rule #8 so I decline to further the scuttle butt in here.
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I'm really enjoying the current setup. It's nice to have an arena with historical match-ups AND a real objective.
If I was looking for a fight on the deck, within five minutes of takeoff, I'd go to just about every other arena in Aces High and be able to find that.
:salute Baumer
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It certainly is nice having you around Baumer.
:salute
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lol don't worry luttrel I won't be whacking you just yet. we will take care of these detractors and set the question of who posts stories right.
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lol don't worry luttrel I won't be whacking you just yet. we will take care of these detractors and set the question of who posts stories right.
Ooooh you're so tough. :lol