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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: [Sg]ShotGun on January 21, 2001, 08:24:00 PM
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with brightness and contrast set to comfortable levels for email and web browsing AH is too dark.
whenever i enter the game i must increase the brightness and contrast by about 25% to have the same light levels as when im at the desktop.
using the diamond viper 770U, i have the sliders in the Incontrols linked and set to very bright for D3D/openGL games, but this doesnt help.
however, b4 105 this situation worked well. but since 105, i must manually increase brightness and contrast ea time.
ur thots?
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Sg
78th FG
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AH is most excellently lit for me.
Must be my über computer. It's LW.
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StSanta
[This message has been edited by StSanta (edited 01-22-2001).]
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On my Daimler-Benz DB605-A1 powered computer the brightness is ok (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Jokes apart, check your monitor as well.
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Is this online or offline?? If online, then this is a real oddity. I have the same card and never had this problem - online. Offline, the arena time is close to dusk or dawn.
-Westy
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Check your display properties. If I right-click on the desktop, hit properties, and go to the Blaster Control tab [creative card] I can change the gamma correction. I leave mine cranked up above normal because it looks better. Night in AH looks great, with reduced visual range that you'd expect. Also check your monitor. Mine is from Dell and has a built-in menu system independant from the video card. I can change color temp, position, brightness, and test patterns from it. If you've got some buttons on your monitor, NOT dials like a TV's brightness and color wheels, then your monitor has a built-in menu system.
But as several people have previously suggested, it would be very nice to have color and gamma options from within AH. Especially for those with naturally dark monitors.
PS you could try 3Deep software that cranks up the gamma. I had it installed for a while, but it kept screwing with my gamma settings. I had to open my display properties in order for it to reset my screen back to normal.
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What time of the AH day are you flying?
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I had a problem similar to this way back a long time ago. I reinstalled Direct X and it fixed it, but...was a long time ago.
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I have the same card and also found AH a little dark. As somebody else suggested you have to adjust the colors, with Diamond you have to adjust the "color correction" brightness.
1.Run Display in Control Panel.
2.Click Settings then Advanced.
3.Click Color Correction tab.
4.Adjust 3 sliders for desired brightness.
5.Click Save As.
6.Name the profile.
7.Click Save.
8.Make sure the new profile is selected and click OK.
bowser
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interesting idea bowser, but if i do as u suggest, than the gamma level will be like that for my offline activity as well. im talking a feature in diamonds 'incontrols' tab with the display menu where it has direct3d or opengl sub tabs and options to vary the gamma sliders for ea.
this feature, in the past at least, has left my very comfortable gamma levels for the desktop but upped them to 25% above normal for using the game online...i dont use offline much and mostly i fly at noon time.
now wood the freq that i set the monitor at be a factor??
i have 'adaptor default', 'optimal', and then 60-120 mhz in increments. it curently is at optimal, but has been at 75 85 or even 120, but no change as been observed...
now obviously this has to do with the 3d portion of the card, cuz im under the impression that AH is 3d only??? for 105 at least, and that in previous releases AH cood be viewed in 2d...yes..no??
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Sg
78th FG
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You can adjust the brightness for each application individually, I just found the increase was so small, my other applications were fine, they weren't too bright.
To adjust just for Aces High:
1.In Control Panel run Display.
2.Click Diamond 3D tab.
3.Under User Profile, select Aces High.
4.Click 3D Color Correction.
5.Adjust sliders.
6.Click OK 3 times.
As far as I know, AH has never been available in 2D.
bowser
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i do exactly that bowser and the game is not as bright as the screen where i adjusted the sliders...
for some reason the gamma levels i choose are not being used by the game...
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Sg
78th FG
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I too am having this problem but I have an NVidia TNT card. The ground is so dark I can't pick out the con until I'm on top of him (same thing over water). This problem has caused me to change my tactics of engagement to having to drop below the attacker so he's backlit against the sky to get ANY kind of a good visual on him to bloody aim. Very frustrating. My monitor is up to max. brightness. I don't know what else to do. Is there some kind of video adjustment in AH I can tweak this or something in my video card adjustment?
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For a 3dfx product this is simple to resolve...
For AH you need to adjust the gamma for Direct3D applications
dunno if thats any help
SKurj
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Gamma is a term for the nonlinear mapping of display intensity. Gamma of 1 is linear; gamma above one makes dim parts of the image brighter in relation to bright parts. To make AH not so dark requires a gamma above 1.0. To adjust gamma on Nvidia drivers select Settings, Control Panel, Display, then click the Settings tab, then Advanced, then GeForce or TNT, then Additional Properties, then click the Color Correction tab, then slide the Gamma slider up (mine is set to 1.6 for Aces High). This will adjust the gamma right away and make Windows too bright, so you don't want to leave it that way. Instead give that gamma configuration a name and save it. Unfortunately the only easy way to bypass all this clicking is to use the NVTweak utility to rapidly reload saved configurations. Whether or not this exists depends on your Nvidia drivers. Click on the Direct 3D tab then Task Bar utility tab if you have it. There you can select "Show Quick Tweak Utility Task bar icon". From that icon you can rapidly select (using the RIGHT mouse button) and reload the configurations you saved above. To be able to switch back to gamma=1.0 for Windows make sure you also saved a configuration with gamma=1.0.
That was long winded, but there might be some people that are flying around 'in the dark' because they couldn't figure out this rather arcane and complex procedure; so I thought I'd post it.
715
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Wow! Thanks for the detailed reply. That's great. I'll check it out. Sounds like you know your stuff. Much appreciated!
Keep'em flyin'
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715 - you said >>Settings, Control Panel, Display, then click the Settings tab, then Advanced, then GeForce or TNT, then Additional Properties, then click the Color Correction tab, then slide the Gamma slider up (mine is set to 1.6 for Aces High).
I tried following your steps to change the Gamma correction. For whatever reason, when I get to Advanced I don't see GeForce or TNT and when i click on Additional Properties there's no Color Correction tab. This is true for my computer at home and work. I even went to the Control Panel, Systems and picked the NVidia driver to change properties and there was nothing there either. I've upped my monitor brighness to 100% and bumped the contrast from 50% to 67% which has helped some. Still lookin for that Gamma correction factor...
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***SKurj***
For a 3dfx product this is simple to resolve...
I have a VooDoo 3 2000... not the greatest, but adequate for now. Could you expound on your comment please?
Thanks,
Max
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Max, if u have the latest drivers, if you don't.. go gettem!!
Ok
Go to Display Properties, Advanced, and then click on the 3dfx colour tab. You have 4 selections in the upper right side of the display now. Select Direct3D. Under the bitmap image to the right you will see sliders labelled R,G,B, There is also a checkbox labelled Lock Gamma. Make sure its checked. I set the sliders to approximately 1.25 for Aces High, but adjust and try Aces to see what you prefer.
SKurj
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I STILL can't for the life of me find those Gamma correction sliders...
I've looked High and low :-(
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Spitlead, what video card? latest drivers?
The gamma sliders i list above are for a voodoo3 (and likely voodoo4/5)
If you don't have a 3dfx product I not much help to you, and if you don't have the latest drivers.. noone can help you (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
SKurj
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Originally posted by SpitLead:
715 - you said >>Settings, Control Panel, Display, then click the Settings tab, then Advanced, then GeForce or TNT, then Additional Properties, then click the Color Correction tab, then slide the Gamma slider up (mine is set to 1.6 for Aces High).
I tried following your steps to change the Gamma correction. For whatever reason, when I get to Advanced I don't see GeForce or TNT and when i click on Additional Properties there's no Color Correction tab. This is true for my computer at home and work. I even went to the Control Panel, Systems and picked the NVidia driver to change properties and there was nothing there either. I've upped my monitor brighness to 100% and bumped the contrast from 50% to 67% which has helped some. Still lookin for that Gamma correction factor...
As I said it depends on what drivers you have installed. The directions I gave you were for the Nvidia reference drivers. If you have OEMs drivers the tabs will be different. I just checked my old computer which has a Diamond Viper V550 (TNT based) and the Gamma is on a tab marked "Gamma Correction". If the tabs I mentioned don't show up, and you can't find other tabs that refer to color correction or gamma, then you don't have the ability to set the gamma in your current drivers. The gamma is part of the "extra" settings beyond the standard Windows display settings. The access to adjusting them comes when the advanced drivers are installed and patch the Display Properties application. If you can't find the gamma slider it is because the drivers you have installed don't have a gamma slider. You can install new drivers; you can get them from www.nvidia.com (http://www.nvidia.com) under support and drivers. The latest unified drivers from Nvidia are version 6.31 (unified means they support everything from TNTs up to GeForce 2 Ultras). Be advised that upgrading drivers is fraught with possibly bad consequences- the ultimate being your computer no longer works and the very minimum is having to go through the standard 640x480 VGA driver as an intermediate which causes all your Windows icons to pile up in the upper left corner. Note that the monitor brightness and contrast controls can't do for you what the gamma slider does: they are linear and the gamma is non-linear.
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715, Thanks.
Read this before and finally got around to actually doing it.
It helps. Thanks.
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Thanks 715. I haven't downloaded any updated drivers lately. I give it a try.