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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: valdals on June 19, 2008, 05:26:39 AM
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i had a bad experience in a niki yesterday. i was in a dog fight and blacked out in a turn. i have done the same manuever in the zero, spit, hurricane, and ki61 and never had this happen. i had to bail out. :furious
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That's becasue the "string" rides up his butt crack in tight turns :O
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i had a bad experience in a niki yesterday. i was in a dog fight and blacked out in a turn. i have done the same manuever in the zero, spit, hurricane, and ki61 and never had this happen. i had to bail out. :furious
How much fuel, ammo and ord were you carrying at the time?
The n1k is pretty nimble with 50% gas, the light ammo loadout and no bombs. Use DT to get you where you're going. It's never going to turn as well as a spit, zeke or hurri.
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The nik is also faster than a zero, so if you did the same maneuver, you where most likely going faster and of course you black out. Oh by the way, you do recover from black out in a few seconds, tho sometimes it feels like its hours. No need to bail.
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The nik is also faster than a zero, so if you did the same maneuver, you where most likely going faster and of course you black out. Oh by the way, you do recover from black out in a few seconds, tho sometimes it feels like its hours. No need to bail.
just what he said
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The nik is also faster than a zero, so if you did the same maneuver, you where most likely going faster and of course you black out. Oh by the way, you do recover from black out in a few seconds, tho sometimes it feels like its hours. No need to bail.
when you black out in a dog fight its best to just bail out. or otherwise you will get killed or crash into the ground. fuel load was 50% drop tanks released 500/400 gun package no bombs. i was on the tail of a 109 when he turned inside of me. i blacked out trying to match his turn.
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what kind of 109???? 109E
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when you black out in a dog fight its best to just bail out. or otherwise you will get killed or crash into the ground.
Quitter.
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when you black out in a dog fight its best to just bail out. or otherwise you will get killed or crash into the ground. fuel load was 50% drop tanks released 500/400 gun package no bombs. i was on the tail of a 109 when he turned inside of me. i blacked out trying to match his turn.
the 109, whatever the model, may have been slower so it would explain why he turned inside you without blacking out
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what kind of 109???? 109E
109g2
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The nik is also faster than a zero, so if you did the same maneuver, you where most likely going faster and of course you black out. Oh by the way, you do recover from black out in a few seconds, tho sometimes it feels like its hours. No need to bail.
Consider the source.
Judging from the time and frequencies of the posts, squeaker season must be officially open.
The only time I've needed to bail from a perfectly good airplane is when it was a C-130.
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That's becasue the "string" rides up his butt crack in tight turns :O
:lol
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when you black out in a dog fight its best to just bail out.
:O Are you serious, dude?
What arena do you fly in, and for what country? I'd love to get lots of free kills.
I can see it now...
ValDals: "I was on the cold six of an enemy, closing. He turned slightly. I sneezed. I figured it would be best if I just bail."
:rofl
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This dude has some serious mental issues. :confused:
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No, this dude just doesn't know anything about ACM, combat flying, or comparative aircraft performance characteristics. In other words, he's a newb who thinks he's worked out how it's all done on his own because he's just now started to learn how to fly the plane straight without augering and knows where the trigger is. :rofl
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i think everyone has summed up your flying abilities just fine
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I think the only thing that remains to be said is, "shut up already."
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So you want an even more uber niki? Lol.
I think all that's left to be said is mommy mommy look what hub said!
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This dude has some serious mental issues. :confused:
Since this post is pointless, anyway...........
SFCHONDO, I been meaning to tell you.
Every time you post, I get this unbelievable urge to drink milk. :noid
It does a body good, ya know :aok
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VonMessa,
Every time you post, I get this unbelievable urge to eat kittens.
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Mmmmm................ kittens.
Tastes like chicken.
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VonMessa,
Every time you post, I get this unbelievable urge to eat kittens.
:rofl X 1.5
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when you black out in a dog fight its best to just bail out. or otherwise you will get killed or crash into the ground. fuel load was 50% drop tanks released 500/400 gun package no bombs. i was on the tail of a 109 when he turned inside of me. i blacked out trying to match his turn.
Don't pull more than 6 Gs in a turn and you won't black out, it's really that simple. The reason you died is that you pulled just a tad more Gs that your little pixelated body could endure. Chalk this up to your inexperience and learn from it instead of posting how this is somehow a bug when your own incompetence is what killed you.
ack-ack
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when you black out in a dog fight its best to just bail out. or otherwise you will get killed or crash into the ground.
Valdals, FYI: As far as K/D is concerned, a bail is equivalent to a death. Bailing out of a perfectly good plane makes no sense. I would argue that a bail never makes any sense, unless you're in a big hurry to get back to the tower.
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This guy is either a shade troll, an 11 year old with terrible parents, or the worst thing to get kicked out of the Army in my lifetime.
Let's take a poll.....
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Valdals, FYI: As far as K/D is concerned, a bail is equivalent to a death.
How's that equivalent? I thought a death is a death - (lowers k/d), and a bail is either a 'capture' or a 'bailed successfully' - (not damaging the k/d ratio)?
Either way I never bail out when G locked. I just think I must be in a drunken stuper and I'll eventually come out of it. Hopefully with blue on top and green on bottom :D :aok
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How's that equivalent? I thought a death is a death - (lowers k/d), and a bail is either a 'capture' or a 'bailed successfully' - (not damaging the k/d ratio)?
No.
For k/d calculations, death (obviously), captured and bail count as "death". Disco is 1/2 "death".
Only landed and ditched are no "deaths"
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You are the shizzle Lusche! :salute
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You are the shizzle Lusche! :salute
No.. I'm a weak ack hugger.
At least that's what that guy who died to ack when trying to vulch me on takeoff said to me 15mins ago :D
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ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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Kills per Death = TotalKills / ((Discos * 0.5) + Bails + Captures + Deaths + 1)
If you've done some damage, then Bailing does help score slightly in that you get a better death multiplier for killpoints.
Death Multipliers
Landed 1.0
Discoed 0.25
Bailed 0.5
Ditched 0.75
Captured 0.4
Killed 0.25
Crashed 0.25
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If you've done some damage, then Bailing does help score slightly in that you get a better death multiplier for killpoints.
So you get credit for damaging an enemy aircraft, not just for the "kill"? I haven't noticed any points accumulating for those times when I get nothing but "Assist on ###".
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So you get credit for damaging an enemy aircraft, not just for the "kill"? I haven't noticed any points accumulating for those times when I get nothing but "Assist on ###".
You do not get perk points for assists, but score points. Actually most of your scorepoints are the result of damage inflicted on the enemy airframe. In theory you could even be #1 in scorepoints without having a single kill on your list ;)
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Hey Valdals this is Theace47 and I have to say after reading your recent posts that you are doing a good job of embarassing yourself. Also is there a possibility that there are two valdals on the forums useing different capital letters. Because you seem different.
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You are the best troll after waldren.
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when you black out in a dog fight its best to just bail out. or otherwise you will get killed or crash into the ground. fuel load was 50% drop tanks released 500/400 gun package no bombs. i was on the tail of a 109 when he turned inside of me. i blacked out trying to match his turn.
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The most humorous part of his post is that he is thinking that the "nikki pilot" doesn't handle Gs as well as the "zero pilot", "spit pilot", "hurricane pilot", and the "ki61 pilot".
:rofl
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Where do these kids come from?
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(http://freon.shackspace.com/misc/worf.gif)
:lol :rofl omg!!!! :rofl :lol
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Where do these kids come from?
Escaped from research camps ?
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Escaped from research camps ?
From sperm cells
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From sperm cells
In your case, out of a million spermatozoa the stupidest one hit the target.
ack-ack
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In your case, out of a million spermatozoa the stupidest one hit the target.
ack-ack
its not always the brightest that runs the fastest
makes me think of a movie.... :D
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No.
For k/d calculations, death (obviously), captured and bail count as "death". Disco is 1/2 "death".
Only landed and ditched are no "deaths"
not true a ditch is a death.
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Kills per Death = TotalKills / ((Discos * 0.5) + Bails + Captures + Deaths + 1)
If you've done some damage, then Bailing does help score slightly in that you get a better death multiplier for killpoints.
Death Multipliers
Landed 1.0
Discoed 0.25
Bailed 0.5
Ditched 0.75
Captured 0.4
Killed 0.25
Crashed 0.25
thanks for posting this. i did the right thing by bailing out.
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thanks for posting this. i did the right thing by bailing out.
No you didn't, blackouts only last a second or two, then your back in the fight. In the case of you over shooting the 109, unless he KNEW you were blacked out and turned back into you hard enough to black him self out, you still would have been in good shape to continue the fight. The speed you where going while causing you to black out, would have given you separation even while being blacked out.
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No you didn't, blackouts only last a second or two, then your back in the fight. In the case of you over shooting the 109, unless he KNEW you were blacked out and turned back into you hard enough to black him self out, you still would have been in good shape to continue the fight. The speed you where going while causing you to black out, would have given you separation even while being blacked out.
ive blacked out from experience before and reveived after 6 seconds. my pilot was out cold and not going to wake up so i bailed
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Film?
No Film = didn't happen.
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Probably a question for HTC, but I'm wondering why it should even be possible to bail while in a black out. It seems like a rather complex maneuver to perform while out cold. If you can't even move your throttle I don't see how you could open a canopy.
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ive blacked out from experience before and reveived after 6 seconds. my pilot was out cold and not going to wake up so i bailed
they ALWAYS wake up, trust me. Only time a passed out pilot won't wake up is if the pilot is wounded and he has passed out 7-8 times while you run for home. The last time he passes out he die from blood lose and you end up in the tower.
If you pass out due to G forces he'll always wake back up.
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not true a ditch is a death.
Valdals, you say a ditch is a death and then say the following:
thanks for posting this. i did the right thing by bailing out.
If you will look at the calculation, Kills per Death = TotalKills / ((Discos * 0.5) + Bails + Captures + Deaths + 1)you'll notice that in the denominator, the word "ditch" does not appear. Then how can a ditch be a death?
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actually, you did the wrong thing. you bailed out of a perfectly good aircraft, gave up, and the guy who was near you got the kill anyway. The only thing you did was save a small bit of score, which no one really cares about anyway. I'm not really sure how a blacked out pilot is able to punch out anyway, but I digress.
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Probably a question for HTC, but I'm wondering why it should even be possible to bail while in a black out. It seems like a rather complex maneuver to perform while out cold. If you can't even move your throttle I don't see how you could open a canopy.
Agreed.
I had a good one tonight... I don't think I was filming at the time but I ended up over a n1k right on the deck and came in the about 4 or 5K on it. Long story short, I overcooked my approach, overshot and blacked out badly.... at what must have been no more than 5 feet above the ground and in between trees. :lol All I could see when I blacked out was green, no horrizon at all and I was moving fast.
I was in a 109 and I was going too fast to manually pull out some I kicked off auto-trim and cranked the elevators back.
After a very long blackout I came to at the top of a loop with the guy I overshot just under me. I snapped a 'tater off at him and, as they say, Robert is your father's brother, he's dead and I'm not.
Bailing because you blacked out is stupid. If you crash.. you deserved it, if you can pull out of it... that's great, carry on fighting.