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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: valdals on June 19, 2008, 08:13:19 AM
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if two planes ram each other both should go down not just one. i was flying above a single lancaster that was trying to escape. i was out of ammo. i was flying on top of him trying to get him to drop to the deck. instead he climbed and rammed me. i died and he flew back to base without any damage. i was in a p47. :furious
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I always lose on the receiving end of a collision.... :mad:
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<deleted> Knock off the name calling.
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Seems to me you got hit in a VW bug by a semi truck and expected to come out the winner. P47 is big and tough but bombers are bigger and a lot of them are tougher.
If you were out of ammo i'd have got the heck away from him so he couldn't do the very thing he did to you. Not much point in being around an enemy con with no ammo.
Next time get away from him or take your plane and bounce it off of his wing tip. Break his wing tip and you've got a good chance of downing him if he's inexperienced. Just a thought.
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if two planes ram each other both should go down not just one. i was flying above a single lancaster that was trying to escape. i was out of ammo. i was flying on top of him trying to get him to drop to the deck. instead he climbed and rammed me. i died and he flew back to base without any damage. i was in a p47. :furious
sunday afternoon I flew 20 sorties and got rammed all 20 times by a bish pilot trying to HO me. one sortie I survived being rammed 3 out of 4 times. I ended up dying with 3 kills. :furious
Things that make you go 'hmmmm...'
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No then that would not be relistic. http://forum.armyairforces.com/photo.aspx?photoid=1617&asorttype=6&apage=1
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if two planes ram each other both should go down not just one. i was flying above a single lancaster that was trying to escape. i was out of ammo. i was flying on top of him trying to get him to drop to the deck. instead he climbed and rammed me. i died and he flew back to base without any damage. i was in a p47. :furious
in real lief it IS possible for one to survive a mid-air. if it's a small fighter vs a lanc....it's possible........if you were out of ammo, you should've left him alone. just like 95% of all real life aviation accidents, yours was PILOT ERROR. :D
you didn't need to stay there, but chose to.
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I was in a 747 and a fly rammed me... The 747 went home undamaged and the fly died! :lol :lol :lol :lol
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Well, here's another topic that I've never seen before.
The only problem with the collision model, is that most people can't understand how it works.
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I was in a 747 and a fly rammed me... The 747 went home undamaged and the fly died! :lol :lol :lol :lol
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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Well, here's another topic that I've never seen before.
The only problem with the collision model, is that most people can't understand how it works.
i'm one of the ones who can't...so when i fly, i just stay far enough away that it can't happen.
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Valdals collision model goes by whyat happens on two seperate screens. I have seen if where I guy rammed me and I lived and I was sitting there in the cockpit going, "He never touched me" The collision model is far from perfect but at least they are trying.
Last but not least just got to ask anythign else you would like to whine :furious about. Since I am on leave it is nice to hear a"pilot" :cry till I get back to work and hear them do it for real over stupid crap.
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Well, here's another topic that I've never seen before.
The only problem with the collision model, is that most people can't understand how it works.
This was the topic that made Pyro change his icon to that painting, "The Scream"
Valdals, this issue has been explained so many times that it's induced near catatonic gibbering among many. The horse is not only dead, but it's been reduced to constituent cells...and the cells have all ruptured, the organelles are destroyed, and the molecules have been broken down to individual atoms.
In other words, Hub is right. I'd suggest you try that old "search" button and find any one of the half million or so threads on the subject of collisions. Look for Bronk's posts with the big pictures -- they do a nice job of showing why things have to be done the way they are.
THe short answer is run into other planes, and don't get close enough to other planes that they can hit YOU. In other words, fly more like a real pilot who's survival depends on his plane! That one change will stop 99% of all collisions.
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Went to the DA with a friend and shot film.
Now for all you people who want both to take damage .
Tell me why tangle should take any after looking at from his side.
Films best looked at from external .
Tangle's perspective.
http://www.speedyshare.com/505573530.html (http://www.speedyshare.com/505573530.html)
My perspective.
http://www.speedyshare.com/193779581.html. (http://www.speedyshare.com/193779581.html.)
Basically from his view he gets "bronk has collieded with you.". You then see me take damage in mid air.
My side you see me fly into his ac and take damage.
I submit this as proof collision model works as intended.
You may all now continue with whine.
Thank you for your time.
Bronk
Found Bronk's post. Can I have a cookie now? :D
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Ahh, the films this time, instead of just the pictures? Cool.
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It seens the download links are dead? :(
This file has been deleted for the following reason: too old.
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I thought I understood how the collision model works till.. two nights ago.... I ran right through the back of a p51... I was above coming down at high speed he was moving away... I got No collision but he did... I got the kill with out a scratch.
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I'm assuming that both planes really did collide rather than the more likely one collided and the other didn't. While the server is good about letting you know if you collided or if your opponent collided with you, it does not give you any clue about the amount of damage done. I've flown pretty badly damaged birds back to a successful landing including ones missing the outer portion of the wings. So, just because he made it out, doesn't mean he did so without a scratch.
Having said that, given that these are not real planes, I don't see why you would expect the bomber pilot to drop lower just because you are flying close above him. At best, the visibility out of bomber cockpits is so poor that he probably didn't see you. At worst, he just didn't care.
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Well the thing is it seems I get about a 50-50 chance of getting collided with or living. There are sometimes were I'm like what I never touched him what the heck :furious!!!!! There are also others were I'm like well I didn't hit him I though but I'll take the kill
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In other words, Hub is right. I'd suggest you try that old "search" button and find any one of the half million or so threads on the subject of collisions. Look for Bronk's posts with the big pictures -- they do a nice job of showing why things have to be done the way they are.
I would bet the ranch that no matter how many threads he could/would read, screenshots he could see, and films he could view ... he will not get it ... ever.
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I would bet the ranch that no matter how many threads he could/would read, screenshots he could see, and films he could view ... he will not get it ... ever.
you're right. he said he was out of ammo, hoping the lanc went down to the deck. what the hell did he think was going to happen then??? :huh a sheep would launch a sam at it???? sheesh!!!!
no ammo= go the hell home
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you're right. he said he was out of ammo, hoping the lanc went down to the deck. what the hell did he think was going to happen then??? :huh a sheep would launch a sam at it???? sheesh!!!!
no ammo= go the hell home
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:lol I think I have been a target for said sheep :uhoh
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Am I the only one here who just thinks this guy is a well played troll? It's a classic collision whine, and the fact it was in an "invincible" P-47 (according to the history channel) is icing on the cake.
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Am I the only one here who just thinks this guy is a well played troll? It's a classic collision whine, and the fact it was in an "invincible" P-47 (according to the history channel) is icing on the cake.
I would agree but in this case... did you ever hear him on range? ;)
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1. If, when you rammed another aircraft from behind, that aircraft took damage, then it would introduce unreal levels of sillyness. For a real combat pilot, near misses can be scarier than tracers appearing over the canopy. After all, your airframe can conceivably survive a few holes. Not so with a mid-air. But this does not apply to computer sims. Overshoots would be much more difficult to generate against people content with M.A.D. if they rammed you, half the players would go all kamikaze on buffs, etc.
2. This has been explained to death. Due to net lag, everyone is flying in their own slightly different paralell universes. If you ram another plane after, and it says "You have collided", say during a HO pass, that means YOU have hit his airplane in the world your computer screen is showing you. If it doesn't say "XXXX has collided with you", that means on his screen, in his paralell universe, he passed you by clean.
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Am I the only one here who just thinks this guy is a well played troll? It's a classic collision whine, and the fact it was in an "invincible" P-47 (according to the history channel) is icing on the cake.
yaaa, ya could be right......... :noid
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Beat that dead horse some more
(http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/9062/bateo1.gif)
PLUS
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Careful you might endure the wrath of PETA freaks.
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dont see why its already dead :noid
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When i was stationed in Iwakuni Japan we had a mid air collision between one of our F4S (phantom jet) and an F16 (falcon jet) while they where doing a mock head to head pass.
F4 hits left inside portion of the F16's wing right next to the body with the outside portion of his wing, just slightly inboard of the wing fold area. F16 goes down, pilot ejects, F4 trims out and makes it back to field to land safely.
F4 takes 5 days to repair and flies again, F16 total loss. End of real life collision story.
I'm sure the lanc that bounced you probably had some damage, but once again you took the biggest chance by just staying in the area with no ammo. :(
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if two planes ram each other both should go down not just one. i was flying above a single lancaster that was trying to escape. i was out of ammo. i was flying on top of him trying to get him to drop to the deck. instead he climbed and rammed me. i died and he flew back to base without any damage. i was in a p47. :furious
Little plane trying to push down big plane. Little plane loses. Get's mad at big plane.
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put a cap in it valdals :rofl
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Just to lighten the mood. I can't figure out why he lost his VOX privileges? He seems so soft spoken and uncomplaining. :rofl
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Keep it going the horse flitched