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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Cmustard on June 19, 2008, 08:07:38 PM
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I was wondering why HTC doesn't give us good looking graphics. For example , the trees look like garbage , the ground looks like poopy green patches , the beaches look like someone spilt some whitish yellowish paint on them , The sky is always one color and really never changes , meaning we dont even get something they have , night time , better water. And the list goes on. Now heres everyones answer: It would absolutely destroy the frame rates. Understood ; that being said , I dont know if anyone remembers but awile ago , before we started getting all the updates , we had something called animated water. Now that looked awsome and realistic. Now , everyone didn't have to have that on , only the people that could handle it. You would go to graphic details for that , and thats where the ground and the water and the trees and all the other stuff I mentioned should be , in the graphic details. I think that really solves everyones problems. That way people that cant handle it has the normal , and people that can may have some decent looking graphics.
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I was wondering why HTC doesn't give us good looking graphics. For example , the trees look like garbage , the ground looks like poopy green patches , the beaches look like someone spilt some whitish yellowish paint on them , The sky is always one color and really never changes , meaning we dont even get something they have , night time , better water. And the list goes on. Now heres everyones answer: It would absolutely destroy the frame rates. Understood ; that being said , I dont know if anyone remembers but awile ago , before we started getting all the updates , we had something called animated water. Now that looked awsome and realistic. Now , everyone didn't have to have that on , only the people that could handle it. You would go to graphic details for that , and thats where the ground and the water and the trees and all the other stuff I mentioned should be , in the graphic details. I think that really solves everyones problems. That way people that cant handle it has the normal , and people that can may have some decent looking graphics.
Have you ever played the others? AHII is the best simulator I've ever seen. Well, I guess you're on a 1 way road to PNG
IN.
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Have you ever played the others? AHII is the best simulator I've ever seen. Well, I guess you're on a 1 way road to PNG
IN.
Yes it is the funnest , not the best graphics. All im saying is to have the option to bump ur graphics up closer to flight sims , inorder that the people that can handle it , are able to have a nice enviroment. Im looking to buy a 2GB graphics card and some extra memory cards , so in the future if this game does get to where I would like it to go , or at least have the option , my comp will be able to handle it easily
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Yes it is the funnest , not the best graphics. All im saying is to have the option to bump ur graphics up closer to flight sims , inorder that the people that can handle it , are able to have a nice enviroment. Im looking to buy a 2GB graphics card and some extra memory cards , so in the future if this game does get to where I would like it to go , or at least have the option , my comp will be able to handle it easily
I play WarBirds and Fighter Ace 3, and they look like Aces High 1 compared to AHII.
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if only HTC could make it look like this!
http://vimeo.com/804582 (http://vimeo.com/804582)
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I play WarBirds and Fighter Ace 3, and they look like Aces High 1 compared to AHII.
Those are not flight sims , your not understanding my point. What im saying is simple , upgrade the graphics and have the option to turn them on or to turn them to normal.
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Those are not flight sims , your not understanding my point. What im saying is simple , upgrade the graphics and have the option to turn them on or to turn them to normal.
They are the best of all the other flight sims I've ever played dude. I've also played the new IL-2 game, graphics arent as good in the cockpit, only thing they got is out-side the plane, nothin else.
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They are the best of all the other flight sims I've ever played dude. I've also played the new IL-2 game, graphics arent as good in the cockpit, only thing they got is out-side the plane, nothin else.
Flight Sims , Ahahaah this game is not a flight sim. Im talking about actual flight simulators. Like flight sim x11 the real flight sims. Yes there graphics are awsome the water looks real there is weather , there are trees grass , reall ground , dont tell me u think this game is a flight sim
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Flight Sims , Ahahaah this game is not a flight sim. Im talking about actual flight simulators. Like flight sim x11 the real flight sims. Yes there graphics are awsome the water looks real there is weather , there are trees grass , reall ground , dont tell me u think this game is a flight sim
Actually yes, I do. I'd rather play this on any system than play the others on only the most up to date computers.
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Actually yes, I do. I'd rather play this on any system than play the others on only the most up to date computers.
Im not saying what you would like to play on im saying what I think would improve the game , again u blow by the main topic. If u dont have any real "2cents" u might say , dont write at all
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Im not saying what you would like to play on im saying what I think would improve the game , again u blow by the main topic. If u dont have any real "2cents" u might say , dont write at all
You didn't have any real 2 cents either, you were just ranting on how much this game "sucks" because you lost a duel with BearKats
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You didn't have any real 2 cents either, you were just ranting on how much this game "sucks" because you lost a duel with BearKats
Ahaahah LOL u are an idiot , is there a squelch command on here?
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Ahaahah LOL u are an idiot , is there a squelch command on here?
Yes there is, it's called the ignor list, but if we put you on it, we will miss the comedy show. :D
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I was wondering why HTC doesn't give us good looking graphics. For example , the trees look like garbage , the ground looks like poopy green patches , the beaches look like someone spilt some whitish yellowish paint on them , The sky is always one color and really never changes , meaning we dont even get something they have , night time , better water.
You shouldn't be telling them that what they worked hard to achieve, is garbage. They are (as far as I know) the most massive Air Combat online game in the world. (correct me if I'm wrong.)
This should if anything be in the wish list forum. And dont be so rude about it.
There should be a squelch button for the forums, so I dont have to read such ignorant stuff like this. You cant even be mature about something as simple as this.
So quit posting stuff like this because you are mad that BearKats beat you and it's somehow "HTC's fault"
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Flight Sims , Ahahaah this game is not a flight sim. Im talking about actual flight simulators. Like flight sim x11 the real flight sims. Yes there graphics are awsome the water looks real there is weather , there are trees grass , reall ground , dont tell me u think this game is a flight sim
There is no such thing as 'flight sim x11'
the sky is always one color and really never changes , meaning we dont even get something they have , night time ,
That's just incorrect.
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You didn't have any real 2 cents either, you were just ranting on how much this game "sucks" because you lost a duel with BearKats
owned.
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So you want Graphics like MS:Flight Sim9/X? This would be nice up till the Download. That would be a very large DL with those graphics.
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Flight Sims , Ahahaah this game is not a flight sim. Im talking about actual flight simulators. Like flight sim x11 the real flight sims. Yes there graphics are awsome the water looks real there is weather , there are trees grass , reall ground , dont tell me u think this game is a flight sim
Cmustard, that is why FSX is around 16GB of space.
Edit: BTW - consider the fact that I have a very good computer, probably better than yours CMustard, and mine barely runs FSX well.
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Cmustard, that is why FSX is around 16GB of space.
10,972MB according to Add/Remove programs :aok
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10,972MB according to Add/Remove programs :aok
16GB, I have extra planes installed.
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16GB, I have extra planes installed.
Ah, i can't seem to get planes i DL to work in it :(.
If AH adds FSX graphics most people (3/4 or so) would most likely have it off due to the reality of it.
I have Med settings and get only 15-20FR. :cry
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Ah, i can't seem to get planes i DL to work in it :(.
If AH adds FSX graphics most people (3/4 or so) would most likely have it off due to the reality of it.
I have Med settings and get only 15-20FR. :cry
You're not installing the planes right then. :P
I'm running on all Highest settings and getting about 30 to 50 FPS.
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Cmouseturds rants are accustomed to a good colon cleansing.
No matter how hard you try you just can't help but laff at all the noise.
Mac
Oh BTW IN
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I love this sim/game what ever it is.
I Love it, my wife on the other hand hates this game/sim!
She also says the she hates all of you and i answer "but they are nice people"
i do love this AH game/sim
zuii
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Can't you be happy with the fact that this is an awesome game in itself? If you want kick bellybutton graphics so bad, go download some WWII fighters for FSX and fly that.
P.S.-IN!
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Yes it is the funnest , not the best graphics. All im saying is to have the option to bump ur graphics up closer to flight sims , inorder that the people that can handle it , are able to have a nice enviroment. Im looking to buy a 2GB graphics card and some extra memory cards , so in the future if this game does get to where I would like it to go , or at least have the option , my comp will be able to handle it easily
This is also a downloadable game so it has to be relatively small enough to allow those on a dial up connection to be able to download the game. If this was a boxed only game then more advanced graphics could be used but it's not. HiTech has to make a compromise between having a game full of eye candy and a game that will allow those that don't have a high end system or broadband connection to play and download the game.
Also, try to be less insulting to the developers that make that game that you play. The old saying "Don't bite the hand that feeds you" comes to mind but it appears that you are too stupid to understand such a basic concept.
ack-ack
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Geez, you can beat some people over the head with a clue...and they still won't get it. :frown:
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Geez, you can beat some people over the head with a clue...and they still won't get it. :frown:
True but sometimes the beating is a lot more enjoyable that way.
ack-ack
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was wondering why HTC doesn't give us good looking graphics. For example , the trees look like garbage , the ground looks like poopy green patches , the beaches look like someone spilt some whitish yellowish paint on them , The sky is always one color and really never changes , meaning we dont even get something they have , night time , better water. And the list goes on. Now heres everyones answer: It would absolutely destroy the frame rates. Understood ; that being said ,
I own FSX and SilentHunter3. I think this game looks fine, and am comfortable with the trade off in graphics for population. You are stating an opinion, not a fact. Opinions vary, thank you for sharing yours. Don't bother arguing, I have my opinion, you have yours, works for me.
I dont know if anyone remembers but awile ago , before we started getting all the updates , we had something called animated water. Now that looked awsome and realistic.
Thank you for proving my point, My Opinion, I thought the animated water was horrible.
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I didn't bother to read through the whole thread, but I got the gist.
Cmustard, would you like to buy the machine I cannot afford? Persuade my phone company to hurry up on the DSL so I can graduate from the "telegraph" line? Many of us don't earn high wages, and therefore don't have premium gaming packages. Therefore, HTC has done a wonderful job of KEEPING IT SIMPLE. It's playable for everone overall. It's kept me hooked for four years, so far. :aok
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I don't understand the intermittent complaining about the graphics not being realistic enough. Yes it's nice when HT upgrades this or that, but I don't come here for scenic flights or drives. In the 'heat of battle', the countryside/sky appearance is the last thing on my mind.... :rolleyes:
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In the 'heat of battle', the countryside/sky appearance is the last thing on my mind.... :rolleyes:
Yes, I like to have Irving Berlin playing through my headphones as I'm getting my a** shot down. :rolleyes: (J/K)
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There is no such thing as 'flight sim x11'
That's just incorrect.
Yes flight simulator 12
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Cmustard, that is why FSX is around 16GB of space.
Edit: BTW - consider the fact that I have a very good computer, probably better than yours CMustard, and mine barely runs FSX well.
probably , but what im saying is give the option to have those kinda graphics
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I didn't bother to read through the whole thread, but I got the gist.
Cmustard, would you like to buy the machine I cannot afford? Persuade my phone company to hurry up on the DSL so I can graduate from the "telegraph" line? Many of us don't earn high wages, and therefore don't have premium gaming packages. Therefore, HTC has done a wonderful job of KEEPING IT SIMPLE. It's playable for everone overall. It's kept me hooked for four years, so far. :aok
Exactly , im not saying ruin it for anyone else , im saying have the option to put it on in graphic details , dont have to turn it on. Awile ago we had animated water , that took a little more frames to run but it was an option , same thing here , make it an option for people who can handle it was my main point here .... Think!
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Cmustard,
I've learned through experiences in my life that women are hard to please. You sir/ma'am have been busted!
Sincerely,
Banshee7
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Yes flight simulator 12
There is no Flight Simulator 12.
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Cmouseturds rants are accustomed to a good colon cleansing.
No matter how hard you try you just can't help but laff at all the noise.
Mac
Oh BTW IN
Aahaha Mac , howdy ::)
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There is no Flight Simulator 12.
SpikesX , tell ur titties to stop jumping at me
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Plus , tell ur titties to stop jumping at me
What? :huh
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What? :huh
Look At Spikes avatar
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I would like to start ou by saying I am no genius ::). I know ... I hide it well but im not a genius. :D
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Gimme a "P"............................. .....
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Gimme a "P"............................. .....
Gimme a "N"
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This is also a downloadable game so it has to be relatively small enough to allow those on a dial up connection to be able to download the game. If this was a boxed only game then more advanced graphics could be used but it's not. HiTech has to make a compromise between having a game full of eye candy and a game that will allow those that don't have a high end system or broadband connection to play and download the game.
Also, try to be less insulting to the developers that make that game that you play. The old saying "Don't bite the hand that feeds you" comes to mind but it appears that you are too stupid to understand such a basic concept.
ack-ack
i totally agree with akak. personally i think someone just need to show him the door....... "dont let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya"
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i totally agree with akak. personally i think someone just need to show him the door....... "dont let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya"
He's mad at the game cuz Bearkats beat him in a duel... :rolleyes:
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He's mad at the game cuz Bearkats beat him in a duel... :rolleyes:
musturd is a waste of space. yall know how i feel bout the squeaker so that is all i'm going to say.
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musturd is a waste of space. yall know how i feel bout the squeaker so that is all i'm going to say.
Yea, when it comes to bish-land arguments with you, he takes it over the line after the first post... :rolleyes:
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Flight Sims , Ahahaah this game is not a flight sim. Im talking about actual flight simulators. Like flight sim x11 the real flight sims. Yes there graphics are awsome the water looks real there is weather , there are trees grass , reall ground , dont tell me u think this game is a flight sim
Mustard think about what you are saying. If you want a Microsoft Flight Simulator X then make a CD so that we can all download it into our computors and you can have all of you uber graphics you want.
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Mustard think about what you are saying. If you want a Microsoft Flight Simulator X then make a CD so that we can all download it into our computors and you can have all of you uber graphics you want.
exactly. :noid
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Gimme a "N"
Gimme a G ............. :noid
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if only HTC could make it look like this!
http://vimeo.com/804582 (http://vimeo.com/804582)
Oh man, if it looked like that I don't think I would ever get off. I agree with mustard 100% on this. :aok
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Have you ever played the others? AHII is the best simulator I've ever seen. Well, I guess you're on a 1 way road to PNG
IN.
Aces High is probably all you've played then.. :lol IL2 has another series being released called Birds of Prey that will pretty much CRUSH any other WW2 flightsim in every aspect from physics to graphics, including Aces High. There are a TON of other flightsims out there with 10 times better graphics than Aces High..
I think Aces High graphics are kind of behind the times to allow playability on a larger scale with those who have systems that
may be more than a few years old. Marketing bro! Gotta keep yourself open to a large market!
Also, I don't think Aces High is very efficient graphically. Especially on older systems, 2X AA will drop your FPS levels to damn near unplayable. Not sure about you, but I like to play my games cranked to the max when it comes to graphics and I have the system to do so..
From my perspective, if I can't play something that looks pretty, there's no point in playing it. If I had to play COD4 or Crysis at med graphic levels, I'd probably pay my 3 years old to punch me in the face and say "What are you doing papa!!???"
A "simulation" indicates a degree of realism. Graphics enhances that realism..
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I play WarBirds and Fighter Ace 3, and they look like Aces High 1 compared to AHII.
Well, now it's quite obvious that Aces High is all you play, so your opinion that Aces High is the best graphically is pretty ill-informed. :D
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Mustard think about what you are saying. If you want a Microsoft Flight Simulator X then make a CD so that we can all download it into our computors and you can have all of you uber graphics you want.
No , flight sim doesnt beat aces high good parts. Talking with friends and flying together... just saying I think there can be a happy medium somewhere.
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They are the best of all the other flight sims I've ever played dude. I've also played the new IL-2 game, graphics arent as good in the cockpit, only thing they got is out-side the plane, nothin else.
What new Il2? The newest IL2 doesn't come out until next year.. What you're playing isn't new.. The latest release of Il2 is 1946 and that's several years old.. Seriously man, get up to speed....
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Well, now it's quite obvious that Aces High is all you play, so your opinion that Aces High is the best graphically is pretty ill-informed. :D
My lord someone understands! And earlier , someone said this game is a download so it is harder to get better graphics ; They do have disk downloads u can pay for , buy the disk for sick graphics , i dont think im sayin anything outrageous
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This is also a downloadable game so it has to be relatively small enough to allow those on a dial up connection to be able to download the game. If this was a boxed only game then more advanced graphics could be used but it's not. HiTech has to make a compromise between having a game full of eye candy and a game that will allow those that don't have a high end system or broadband connection to play and download the game.
Also, try to be less insulting to the developers that make that game that you play. The old saying "Don't bite the hand that feeds you" comes to mind but it appears that you are too stupid to understand such a basic concept.
ack-ack
Respectfully, I completely disagree with the fact that this game has to be limited by people who don't want to upgrade their systems or their connections. To my knowledge, Aces High is the only game that I know of that restricts itself due to this situation. I can't think of any other game released in the last 2-3 years that can even utilize a dial-up connection for internet game-play besides Aces High.. Even in 2004 when it was released there were very few games that could still utilize a dial-up connection. In Aces High, latency due to limiting factors such as a dial-up connection (however some dial-ups are actually pretty decent as far as latency is concerned depending on location, modem, system, tweaking, etc. but most dial-up users will not consider such things because they probably don't know) will cause one to warp. In other games, latency will slowdown the entire game for everyone. Kinda sucks when you have a game that crawls at a snails pace due to one guy using a dial-up/wireless/satellite connection..
I understand Aces High marketing strategy in this matter.. It's completely logical. After all, most people who play this game are older than your average gamer and they are less apt to upgrade their systems or internet connections based on either cost, lack of necessity, ignorance, or a combination of all 3. That's not a swipe at anyone playing this game, just a fact I've come to observe.
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My lord someone understands! And earlier , someone said this game is a download so it is harder to get better graphics ; They do have disk downloads u can pay for , buy the disk for sick graphics , i dont think im sayin anything outrageous
1 gig downloads are very common for many game demos these days.. As I said, this game is limited by the fact that many who play it are still limited by their hardware, internet connection, or (tragically) both..
If HTC were to suddenly upgrade their graphic engine, they'd probably alienate more than half of their subscribers. That's a bad business decision. So, HTC will slllloooowwwllllyyy develop this game and it will always be behind the standard by a few years. But that's all good because no other game has 400 people in one arena at a time and I will surely take the hit graphically to be able to play and talk to so many people.. :rock
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AH is about combat, not pretty pictures :salute
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AH is about combat, not pretty pictures
**sigh**
I find backward thinking annoying..
Don't insult by using the term "pretty pictures".. "Pretty Pictures" and graphic quality have nothing in common.. A "picture" is in those old 1980's playboys underneath your disgustingly filthy bathroom sink that your wife has been urging you to remove for that last 30 years..
A graphic engine is something else entirely...
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i think that might be your setting or your graphics card. my graphics was clear now they are distored a little. it hurts me in gvs. i have trouble spotting and hitting some targets at long range.
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i think that might be your setting or your graphics card. my graphics was clear now they are distored a little. it hurts me in gvs. i have trouble spotting and hitting some targets at long range.
distored ???????????
<sigh>
One down, one to go.
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AH is about combat, not pretty pictures :salute
This is true, but to attract new customers...eye candy is what they usually see first. Not gameplay and comradery. With the exception of the summer squeakers, the influx of new pilots is getting stagnant IMHO.
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Looks pretty good to me at 2560x1600 res and the hi-res stuff installed.. :rock
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Aces High is probably all you've played then.. :lol IL2 has another series being released called Birds of Prey that will pretty much CRUSH any other WW2 flightsim in every aspect from physics to graphics, including Aces High. There are a TON of other flightsims out there with 10 times better graphics than Aces High..
I think Aces High graphics are kind of behind the times to allow playability on a larger scale with those who have systems that
may be more than a few years old. Marketing bro! Gotta keep yourself open to a large market!
Also, I don't think Aces High is very efficient graphically. Especially on older systems, 2X AA will drop your FPS levels to damn near unplayable. Not sure about you, but I like to play my games cranked to the max when it comes to graphics and I have the system to do so..
From my perspective, if I can't play something that looks pretty, there's no point in playing it. If I had to play COD4 or Crysis at med graphic levels, I'd probably pay my 3 years old to punch me in the face and say "What are you doing papa!!???"
A "simulation" indicates a degree of realism. Graphics enhances that realism..
Course it's not, I need to be able to support it on my 2005 system. I've played CFS1, CFS2, CFS3, IL-2 (both versions) and AHII is still a way better sim than all of them. Just because you can make nearly any system support Aces High. HTC has that over nearly all other sims who require the best systems to play.
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What new Il2? The newest IL2 doesn't come out until next year.. What you're playing isn't new.. The latest release of Il2 is 1946 and that's several years old.. Seriously man, get up to speed....
All the same to me, still 40$$ at Wal-Mart, so it's new. Plus, I wouldn't wanna waste my money on that stupid game anyways. Thank god I played it at a friends house before he returned it.
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I was wondering why HTC doesn't give us good looking graphics. For example , the trees look like garbage , the ground looks like poopy green patches , the beaches look like someone spilt some whitish yellowish paint on them , The sky is always one color and really never changes , meaning we dont even get something they have , night time , better water. And the list goes on. Now heres everyones answer: It would absolutely destroy the frame rates. Understood ; that being said , I dont know if anyone remembers but awile ago , before we started getting all the updates , we had something called animated water. Now that looked awsome and realistic. Now , everyone didn't have to have that on , only the people that could handle it. You would go to graphic details for that , and thats where the ground and the water and the trees and all the other stuff I mentioned should be , in the graphic details. I think that really solves everyones problems. That way people that cant handle it has the normal , and people that can may have some decent looking graphics.
Wow...good thing you weren't here for AH I. When all the trees were the exact same and formed perfect squares.
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Anodizer = shade???? :noid :noid :noid :noid
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16GB, I have extra planes installed.
Its base witout any add ons is 15GB... now with extra planes and accelration and all... it goes higher. somehow my laptop can run it all at ultra high and then some. :confused:
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we don't need new players....as for the physics, a better game that AH has to be found yet.
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lol, poopy green patches
-BigBOBCH
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Anodizer = shade???? :noid :noid :noid :noid
Oh yeahh... This is my shade account... Uh huh...
Yeah... Definitely..
Talk about :noid :noid :noid :noid ....
My game ID is the same.. I'm in the DA all the time.. Look me up...
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we don't need new players....as for the physics, a better game that AH has to be found yet.
I agree on the physics portion of your statement.. It's the most accurate of any WWII flightsim I've used..
But not needing new players? What's your reason for that?
Some of you guys sound like old pissed off grandfathers who hate your grandkids.. :lol
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All the same to me, still 40$$ at Wal-Mart, so it's new. Plus, I wouldn't wanna waste my money on that stupid game anyways. Thank god I played it at a friends house before he returned it.
Well, first of all, he got RIPPED OFF paying that much for IL2.. He should've tried gamestop or eBay.. Can get it for around $10-$20 there..
Also, it just shows HOW BEHIND on the times you really are.. No offense.. Can't expect to post info like that and not get "corrected" by someone who knows the market.. Also, stores like Walmart, Target, etc. are the WOST places to buy games.. I still see games released in 2004 going for $40-$50. This is insane and shows that those who are buying games there don't know the first thing about PC gaming or where to buy their games (again no offense :) ) So many games can be bought second hand for next to nothing.. Go to one of these small games shops and they'll have racks of used PC games on the cheap. COD4 for $20!! Crysis for $17.99!! FSX for $25.99!! And that's just the one in town here.. I'm sure ones closer to bigger cities would have much more..
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Anodizer since u have, from what I figured from ur writings a more comprehensive picture of IL 2 than many off us here, how u compare the flight characteristics of two same fighters, in AH and in IL2 ? My feeling is that IL2 fighters are harder to fly compare to AH fighters. Think AH is kind of “care free handling”. Especially during some high –g maneuvers the movement of the aircrafts in AH is so abrupt, for eg negative g dive or ++++g climb, that the plane is literally vanished from your field of view in a matter of secs. From my experience in offline IL2 the moves of the fighters are more smoothly and more close to human body limits. What is your opinion about it?
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AH is the highest fidelity flight sim for world war II aircraft, bar none. If you want your eye-candy or nit-picking engine management details go play something else. If what you care about is ACM and fighting in the closest possible manner to the real deal, AH is where it's at. Only the humble opionion of someone who's played every single flight sim ever made.