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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: jerkins on June 20, 2008, 04:40:46 PM
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This is a video description of a reversal of a diving enemy with narration. The enemy has a moderate to fast closure rate.
Feel free to ask further questions or make comments.
Download for higher quality video:
reversal.wmv (http://www.hotlinkfiles.com/files/1478781_l2vwx/reversal.wmv)
Youtube version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8nPiEqBZyk
Enjoy!
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Outstanding work. some of the saved views were a little jumpy you could go back and manualy do the views for optimal visual enjoyment, but that is nitpicking.
One thing i disagreed on maybe was the lethality, I think the 4 hispano are just as deadly if not more so and easier to hit with than the 30+2x20 combo but this could be a matter of preferance and experience. The way you did those cutscenes was superb, like something out of the history channel.
5 star tutorial.
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nice work Jerkins :aok thanks for the film and comments sir :salute
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Thanks for the comments I'm glad you like the video.
All data was taken from gonzoville.com's fighter comparison. Here is a clip of the chart. I will give you that the 20mm hispanos may be easier to use, but the lack the hitting power of the 30mm. It could come down to pilot preference.
(http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/4637/lethalct0.png) (http://imageshack.us)
Full data can be found here:
http://www.gonzoville.com/ahcharts/index.php?p1=ta152h&p2=f4u1c
The views were left that way deliberately in order to show where I was looking during the maneuver. It could be smoother, wish i had tracker ir.
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a hanger is something you can command 100% accuracy with little effort, an aircraft is not so easy. the gunsite view, the unsteady gun platform and the short range and minimal accuracy of the 3cm rounds are definitely out weighed by the chog's quad lazer hispanos fired from an incredibly stable platform with exceptional gunsite visibility. here is not the place to discuss it perhaps so i will cease.
One thing to note is your expert gunnery there, you infact make the lethality chart correct only through superb gunnery.
A brilliant turtorial Jerkins.
S!
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dude.........EXCELLENT VID!!!! :aok :aok
don't know how you find the time to do these for us, but PULEEEZE keep em coming!!!
<<S>> :salute :salute
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hehe, we could go on forever batfinkv. I guess we will leave it to pilots choice, its a close match up.
I will try to keep making them cap1, what do you want to see next.
Here are some ideas i had:
Strafing man ack
Dive bombing
Merge tactics
flat scissor
rolling scissor
stall tactics/flying on the edge
The list could go on forever but if you want to see something i will move it to top priority. I was really thinking about doing a video just on some maneuvers to try in the ta or offline to find the limits of your aircraft. Then combining that with stall tactics and using engine torque to your advantage.
Any suggestions?
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hehe, we could go on forever batfinkv. I guess we will leave it to pilots choice, its a close match up.
I will try to keep making them cap1, what do you want to see next.
Here are some ideas i had:
Strafing man ack
Dive bombing
Merge tactics
flat scissor
rolling scissor
stall tactics/flying on the edge
The list could go on forever but if you want to see something i will move it to top priority. I was really thinking about doing a video just on some maneuvers to try in the ta or offline to find the limits of your aircraft. Then combining that with stall tactics and using engine torque to your advantage.
Any suggestions?
of these, i get decent practice on flat scissors in the offline.
rolling scissors has always confused me. my merges suck. my divebombing sucks. although i like to furball, my multi-con flying sucks too. i feel as though i do decent on stall fighting, but always looking for more tips on that too.
thanks dude!
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This is a video description of a reversal of a diving enemy with narration.
Way to go Jerkins. Showing others how it is done will be appreciated by all.
:)
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hehe, we could go on forever batfinkv. I guess we will leave it to pilots choice, its a close match up.
I will try to keep making them cap1, what do you want to see next.
Here are some ideas i had:
Strafing man ack
Dive bombing
Merge tactics
flat scissor
rolling scissor
stall tactics/flying on the edge
The list could go on forever but if you want to see something i will move it to top priority. I was really thinking about doing a video just on some maneuvers to try in the ta or offline to find the limits of your aircraft. Then combining that with stall tactics and using engine torque to your advantage.
Any suggestions?
actually, i noticed that any time you shot, you didn't miss. any tips on gunnery? like convergence for different planes? or how to lead more effectivly?
thanks!!
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Strafing manned ack
Merge tactics
flat scissor
stall tactics/flying on the edge
These would be top of my request list.
<S>
Yossarian
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Just another :aok for a fine training video!
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Wow that was a great episode of dogfights. That overshoot combined with accurate gunfire lead to the death of the american pilot. :aok I would like to see how to use torgue to your advantage sinec I fly the 109k-4 alot which has tons of it.
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hi spit16nooby, i hope jerkins doesnt mind me chipping in a view here!
one hint from a noob 109 pilot (me) regarding torque in stall manouvers.
Auto combat trim does not account for the increased torque effect caused by turning on the WEP. You will notice in something very stable like a spitfire mkV that if you leave the stick go flying level with the WEP off she will stay reasonably level, but hit the WEP on and she will roll off with the torque.
So when you are getting into a stall turn or trying to hang righ up there at 10mph in your 109k4 you want to switch the WEP off for maximum control. Those are the moments when half-seconds count for win or lose, you really will hang up there or reverse that stall turn much better with the WEP off. This is assuming of course that one is not using manual trim in most situations.
Dont fight the torque when you are very slow, if you want to roll the opposite way but the torque wont let you you MUST recognise the situation in advance and change your flight plan to include the possibilty that rolling 270* the other way being faster than 90* against the torque.
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Merge tactics
flat scissor
rolling scissor
stall tactics/flying on the edge
Would love to see you cover those indepth :aok
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hi spit16nooby, i hope jerkins doesnt mind me chipping in a view here!
one hint from a noob 109 pilot (me) regarding torque in stall manouvers.
Auto combat trim does not account for the increased torque effect caused by turning on the WEP. You will notice in something very stable like a spitfire mkV that if you leave the stick go flying level with the WEP off she will stay reasonably level, but hit the WEP on and she will roll off with the torque.
So when you are getting into a stall turn or trying to hang righ up there at 10mph in your 109k4 you want to switch the WEP off for maximum control. Those are the moments when half-seconds count for win or lose, you really will hang up there or reverse that stall turn much better with the WEP off. This is assuming of course that one is not using manual trim in most situations.
Dont fight the torque when you are very slow, if you want to roll the opposite way but the torque wont let you you MUST recognise the situation in advance and change your flight plan to include the possibilty that rolling 270* the other way being faster than 90* against the torque.
In 109s Torque are very imporant. I think almost one of the Key feature of the 109, at least for this game. In a stall fight when you need to nose over and roll down, if you have the wrong torque setting it could delay you for a good 5 sec to nose over. Which is a long time in combat. For me, when I'm edge of stalling, and I need to roll left I hit Wep. For rolling to the right at edge of stall I chop throttle then roll, once I'm facing where I wanna go I hit go full throttle again.
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Here is another reversal clip it's in ahf format though. Hurricane IIC v. Zeke2
http://files.filefront.com/ReversalHuri+0213ahf/;10813905;/fileinfo.html
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Does this maneuver consider a lagroll or just regular reversal? or is there any other name?
As the spit and I went head on, he back right coming back onto my tail. I made a slight right turn then left turn to keep him in view, as he comes in from my 8 clock I reversed direction to break his shot. Spit then choose the next close target on his course and I dropped back down on him.
http://files.filefront.com/Lagroll+1925ahf/;10815301;/fileinfo.html
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Nicely done video. I liked the way all the views of the encounter were incorporated. :aok
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Always love your work and excellent comments Jerkins! Job well done Sir... :salute.
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Well done <S>
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More on this topic...
External with trails by Badboy
Barrel roll defense (http://www.badz.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Animations/Animation6.avi)
Barrel roll defense II (2nd version in animated gif format. May take awhile to load.)
(http://www.badz.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Animations/Animation8.gif)
Barrel roll defense package in .ahf (http://trainers.hitechcreations.com/files/murdr/evarevall.zip) formats (Murdr)
Would have reposted B@tfinks avi, but it is no longer up.
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Best strategy for taking down field ack:
Roll a B-25H and lob a pumpkin from outside their range. :D
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Best strategy for taking down field ack:
Roll a B-25H and lob a pumpkin from outside their range. :D
"Orbital bombardment", works great with 3-5 B25Hs at a time.
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Hee hee. Base Delta Zero the sucker. :D