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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on June 21, 2008, 09:28:08 AM
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Yeah, still trying to catch up on the 1990's movies, that's how many movies/TV i watch. That said....interesting film, they said "diddly" 422 times in that film! I am a Joe Pesci fan and my grandfather met a few chicago gansters in his life (he was a musician in many of their bar hang-outs) so the film was intriguing to me.
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That is another of the Joe Pesci movies that I have no problem watching more than once. It was great... that whack in the corn field was brutal :rolleyes:
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You mean Goodfellas 2? :lol
Just kidding, Great flick! Its just that both movies are so similar, Deniro and Pesci play nearly the same characters in both movies. DeNiro the Half-Jew Level headed gangster, and Pesci the the hot headed criminal who can't control his own barbarity.
In both endings, Deniro fades out of the criminal spotlight, while Pesci gets whacked for going against the family.
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Head in a vice ooowwwwww
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Brutal movie, I liked it. Sharon Stone didn't have much trouble getting in character. ;)
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Excellent film. but don't tell the guys back home.
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If you keep in mind that the main character's RL person still lives, and that the the mob characters (Joe Pesci + Screen brother) were the Spilatro brothers out of the Chicago/St. Louis/Kansas City mob it really makes sense.
I grew up in Waukegan, IL and when I was a kid, hits were a once a week occurance.
Someone would end up dead in the trunk of a car set on fire in a forest preserve.
The manager would be shot mafia style in the parking lot of the only local "all nude" dancing club. (About 3 times a year)
People whould be shot in the back of the head and wash up on the shore of Lake Michigan. A childhood friend of mine "caught" one while fishing at the lake.
Pretty much all of these come back to the Spilatro character in the film.
He was the biggest "muscle" the Chicago (South Side up to Waukegan, Including Highland Park, and west out to Libertyville) mafia had. After he left for Las Vegas, the hits dropped off.
After he and his brother were "Hit" and buried in Indiana...there was a period of "down time". After 6 months, the hits started up again.
You'd be surprised the high profile and movie stars that showed up to the Spilatro Brothers funeral.
Some of the guys who killed them showed up too.
That's the life.
ROX
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you got to be kiddin' me. you ever seen Goodfellas? if not check it out.
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Great movie. Now watch Boogie Nights.
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Netflix has me watching movies I missed years ago. Watched The Jazz Singer for the first time the other night, not bad.
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Head in a vice ooowwwwww
Icepicks in the testicles and he STILL wouldn't talk! :O
The vice did the trick though....
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it's a good movie i think. :aok
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Oh man, wasn't Daniel Craig awesome in it?
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The opening is GREAT -
"...a lot of holes in the desert, and a lot of peoples problems fill those holes..."
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If you keep in mind that the main character's RL person still lives, and that the the mob characters (Joe Pesci + Screen brother) were the Spilatro brothers out of the Chicago/St. Louis/Kansas City mob it really makes sense.
I grew up in Waukegan, IL and when I was a kid, hits were a once a week occurance.
Someone would end up dead in the trunk of a car set on fire in a forest preserve.
The manager would be shot mafia style in the parking lot of the only local "all nude" dancing club. (About 3 times a year)
People whould be shot in the back of the head and wash up on the shore of Lake Michigan. A childhood friend of mine "caught" one while fishing at the lake.
Pretty much all of these come back to the Spilatro character in the film.
He was the biggest "muscle" the Chicago (South Side up to Waukegan, Including Highland Park, and west out to Libertyville) mafia had. After he left for Las Vegas, the hits dropped off.
After he and his brother were "Hit" and buried in Indiana...there was a period of "down time". After 6 months, the hits started up again.
You'd be surprised the high profile and movie stars that showed up to the Spilatro Brothers funeral.
Some of the guys who killed them showed up too.
That's the life.
ROX
interesting...
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If you keep in mind that the main character's RL person still lives, and that the the mob characters (Joe Pesci + Screen brother) were the Spilatro brothers out of the Chicago/St. Louis/Kansas City mob it really makes sense.
I grew up in Waukegan, IL and when I was a kid, hits were a once a week occurance.
Someone would end up dead in the trunk of a car set on fire in a forest preserve.
The manager would be shot mafia style in the parking lot of the only local "all nude" dancing club. (About 3 times a year)
People whould be shot in the back of the head and wash up on the shore of Lake Michigan. A childhood friend of mine "caught" one while fishing at the lake.
Pretty much all of these come back to the Spilatro character in the film.
He was the biggest "muscle" the Chicago (South Side up to Waukegan, Including Highland Park, and west out to Libertyville) mafia had. After he left for Las Vegas, the hits dropped off.
After he and his brother were "Hit" and buried in Indiana...there was a period of "down time". After 6 months, the hits started up again.
You'd be surprised the high profile and movie stars that showed up to the Spilatro Brothers funeral.
Some of the guys who killed them showed up too.
That's the life.
ROX
That is so true Rox. My dad and I watch the movie when it first came out. My dad went to school with the Spilatro brothers in chicago. He said they were jerks then (used other words that cant be used in here) and were pretty much having there way in high school because alot of the kids were afraid of them, and that Pesci played the real Spilatro pretty well.
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The opening is GREAT -
"...a lot of holes in the desert, and a lot of peoples problems fill those holes..."
Ahhh crap. Now I'll have to watch it again, I missed the opening 20 minutes. :mad:
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Ahhh crap. Now I'll have to watch it again, I missed the opening 20 minutes. :mad:
??? I thought you said you watched it?
You even see how or why they got out there?
was it an edited version you saw?
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Sam Giancana came to my Aunts funeral. Most of the Italian side of my family hails from the Chicago Northside. My Dad's stepdad was Don Pep, he ran bootleg liquor out of a small store on Chicago Ave. in the 30's.
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??? I thought you said you watched it?
You even see how or why they got out there?
was it an edited version you saw?
If he watched it on broadcast TV he missed half of it.
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??? I thought you said you watched it?
You even see how or why they got out there?
was it an edited version you saw?
I said I watched it. I didn't watch the first 20 minutes. It was 4 hours long (editted version) on TV.
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I said I watched it. I didn't watch the first 20 minutes. It was 4 hours long (editted version) on TV.
Yikes :O
If you thought it was "ok" see the full length feature DVD.
There's a reason it is in the IMDB top 250 all time movies. :aok
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I said I watched it. I didn't watch the first 20 minutes. It was 4 hours long (editted version) on TV.
I can't imagine the edited for TV version even loosely resembles the original.
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I can't imagine the edited for TV version even loosely resembles the original.
I wouldn't know, but they had to do alot of creative word editting! (frick instead of "if you see Kay", etc.) Good movie, but I rarely have the patience to sit down and watch a movie so I doubt I'll rent it. Just happened that I stayed up to midnight watching this one (rare)
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I'm telling you it's worth it.
Did say yes or no to watching Goodfellas?
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I wouldn't know, but they had to do alot of creative word editting! (frick instead of "if you see Kay", etc.) Good movie, but I rarely have the patience to sit down and watch a movie so I doubt I'll rent it. Just happened that I stayed up to midnight watching this one (rare)
You missed more than just the language, the entire movie was pretty raw. Perhaps it was better being toned several notches but definitely not the same movie.
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You missed more than just the language, the entire movie was pretty raw. Perhaps it was better being toned several notches but definitely not the same movie.
Yup. From IMDB, a scene I know they edited almost completely:
# Martin Scorsese stated before the film's release that he created the "head in the vise" scene as a sacrifice, certain the MPAA would insist it be cut. He hoped this would draw fire away from other violent scenes that would seem less so by comparison. When the MPAA made no objection to the vise scene, he left it in, albeit slightly edited.
The "head in a vice" scene is taken from an anecdote in the book "Casino" unrelated to the main story, describing mob enforcer Tony Spilotro's interrogation of a low-level gangster named Billy McCarthy, who had committed the unauthorized murder on the Scalvo Brothers, a pair of high-ranking mobsters within Spilotro's crime organization. Trying to get McCarthy to give up the identity of the man who helped him kill the Scalvos, Spilotro first beat McCarthy, then stabbed him in the testicles with an icepick, before finally shoving his head in a vice and crunching it to five inches wide; McCarthy didn't give up the name of his partner, Jimmy Miraglia, until Spilotro tightened the vice in such a way that one of Billy's eyes popped out. Amazingly, McCarthy survived the head-crushing long enough for Spilotro to kill him by dousing him in lighter fluid and setting him ablaze. Spilotro would remark later in life, "Billy McCarthy was the toughest guy I ever met." (Jimmy Miraglia was subsequently shot dead and put in the trunk of his own car along with Billy's corpse).
Just one of the memorable scenes talked about in this thread
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I suspect Deep Throat would be a different movie if edited for TV also. ;)
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I suspect Deep Throat would be a different movie if edited for TV also. ;)
:rofl
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I worked for the Central Conference of Teamsters and the Central States Pension Fund. I know guys from those outfits who went to prison, and a few things in that movie really took me back.
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I suspect Deep Throat would be a different movie if edited for TV also. ;)
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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Yup. From IMDB, a scene I know they edited almost completely:
Just one of the memorable scenes talked about in this thread
They had the scene in the editted version, they just didn't show the eyeball popping out, as I presume they did in the uneditted version.
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Sam Giancana was the first contact Joe Kennedy called on when he came to Chicago to muster help for the election.
Sam Giancana was murdered in his own kitchen (by someone he knew) the day before he was due to testify in Washington regarding the Kennedy assination.
Vegas before corporations was truly the wild west with nobody to answer to. Lot's of hits back then. Teamsters funds backed the expansions...if your joint didn't make enough, you got wacked.
Now, it's just stockholders. Harrahs and the Harrah's locations have really gone down hill since the sale earlier this year. Never let beancounters dictate your marketing. Ten bucks says a Japanese or Arabian coroporation buys Harrahs out in less than 5 years.
Oceans' movies are made on the premise that the mob still has a foothold in Vegas. Not the case. The only mobs that have a foothold in Vegas are gangs...and they don't have the cash or skills to run a casino.
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