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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Cajunn on June 24, 2008, 03:03:00 AM
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I'm not just saying this because I'm a Rook....but it seems that the Rooks get all the new guys just starting the game. If I'm not mistaking when you start your automatically put in the Rooks. Me and some my squaddies watched a numbers guy tonight try to fly and it was like watching a TRAIN WRECK, you just couldn't stop watching. The poor guy just had no clue to what the the heck was going on and to make matters worse would not except our help!! :rofl
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I thought everyone was born Bish?
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You havent been bish yet brotha, its like 23415890134 of those bob guys.
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Cajun they are sir.
Everyone used to start as bishop, so you got mass raids of nik's and tiffys. Not true anymore.
Now first time pilots coming into an arena are defaulted to the country with the lowest numbers.
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....but it seems...
Key words. Fact is it's that way all around.
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Cajun they are sir.
Everyone used to start as bishop, so you got mass raids of nik's and tiffys. Not true anymore.
Now first time pilots coming into an arena are defaulted to the country with the lowest numbers.
Hmm... I thought it was only knights...
When I started tour 78 as buddyr, I was knight
Then when I was Plus44, I was knight
Then when I went to 1pLUs44, I was knight, but went bishop. :aok
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I'm not just saying this because I'm a Rook....but it seems that the Rooks get all the new guys just starting the game. If I'm not mistaking when you start your automatically put in the Rooks. Me and some my squaddies watched a numbers guy tonight try to fly and it was like watching a TRAIN WRECK, you just couldn't stop watching. The poor guy just had no clue to what the the heck was going on and to make matters worse would not except our help!! :rofl
Its almost to the point where you cant run NOE missions cause of the noobs blowing it. And its not like any of us wouldnt help the guy get his skills together enough to fly in a mission. Probably most of us would be more then happy to.
But when numbered accounts flying two free weeks can ruin a mission made up of dozens who have been with the game for years?? When that can happen like it does then there is a serious problem.
The answer is simple. Dont allow the 2 weekers to "join mission" unless the mission C/O allows it. Even better allow the mission C/O control over whos in the mission overall.
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I started rook, then went bish.
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It's irritating, but its worth considering that inexperienced pilots "blew" quite a few missions in the Second World War or got experienced pilots killed, especially as the supply of experienced German/Japanese pilots began to dry up and all the front-line units got sent was barely trained cannon fodder.
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Its almost to the point where you cant run NOE missions cause of the noobs blowing it. And its not like any of us wouldnt help the guy get his skills together enough to fly in a mission. Probably most of us would be more then happy to.
But when numbered accounts flying two free weeks can ruin a mission made up of dozens who have been with the game for years?? When that can happen like it does then there is a serious problem.
The answer is simple. Dont allow the 2 weekers to "join mission" unless the mission C/O allows it. Even better allow the mission C/O control over whos in the mission overall.
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It's irritating, but its worth considering that inexperienced pilots "blew" quite a few missions in the Second World War or got experienced pilots killed, especially as the supply of experienced German/Japanese pilots began to dry up and all the front-line units got sent was barely trained cannon fodder.
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Even inexperienced Ill bet they knew how to fly in a straight line while under 500'. Learning to do so in this game is a one hour course with a 30 min lunch in the middle. If a noob isnt willing to go that far then why do we "have to" allow them in the missions?
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Hi Rich,
Even inexperienced Ill bet they knew how to fly in a straight line while under 500'. Learning to do so in this game is a one hour course with a 30 min lunch in the middle. If a noob isnt willing to go that far then why do we "have to" allow them in the missions?
Actually, according to guys like Rudel, sustained NOE is some of the most stressful and difficult stuff flying you can do. In Operation Bodenplatte, many of the "nubies" augured or failed to find their targets. Wiki notes the following:
Another problem was the fact that many of the Luftwaffe pilots were very poor marksmen and lacked flight skills. By late 1944 there were no safe areas in which pilots could be trained without the possibility of air attack. Aviation fuel supplies were at a premium and there was a lack of experienced instructors. Many of the training units (eg JG 104) were forced to fly front-line operations in order to bolster the front-line Jagdgeschwader. Allied personnel who witnessed the attacks frequently remarked on the poor aim of the strafing aircraft, and many of the Luftwaffe aircraft shot down by Allied anti-aircraft fire were caught because they were flying too slow and too high. Wing Commander Johnnie Johnson:
"The shooting was atrocious, and the circuit at Evere reminded us of more of a bunch of beginners on their first solos than pilots of front-line squadrons."
But I understand your point, you want some means of limiting involvement in a mission, the answer might be some sort of "invitation only" system so that only those who have been invited to do so join.
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I've been seeing a lot more number guys in Bish lately.
Several months ago I had just spawned into the arena and there was some guy trying to get a P-51D up. He'd sit and spin in circles at the end of the runway then .ef and try again. Then he must have gotten frustrated and started spinning in circles firing his guns. Then he finally got the rudder figured out, went down the runway, lost control and crashed into a hanger and sat there emptying his guns into the dirt. You're right. I couldn't stop watching from the tower.
I did try to offer help but he must not have had the radio figured out either. Anyway, it was funny as h@ll.
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I'm not just saying this because I'm a Rook....but it seems that the Rooks get all the new guys just starting the game. If I'm not mistaking when you start your automatically put in the Rooks.
Well...you are "mistaking". HT has stated more than once that it's random. It isn't HTC's fault if the rooks are simply great Noob magnets!!! :rofl
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I had a suggestion a while back that took an entirely different tact. Why not have a room where experienced pilots begin the month with one life, and the new guys get unlimited lives. I think that would be interesting. A sort'a see how long the fighter jocks can survive against the nubbies. It would be fun just to look at the Roster and see how many kills they got before they caught one.
I don't know what the cut off number would be. Possibly any score under 1,000 the previous month would make you an experienced pilot, or, say over 50 kills. The exact number is negotiable.
Isn't this the way it happens in a REALWar ? Experienced pilots are irreplacable, arn't they ? You could even put a cap on how many new guys can fly for a country side based on a percentage of how much of their original territory they can manage to hold onto. Less territory, less fliers.
Now there's a room I'd like to see. I think it would be an interesting contest.
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It happens every summer when school gets out. Gotta suck it up for a few months.
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Its almost to the point where you cant run NOE missions cause of the noobs blowing it. And its not like any of us wouldnt help the guy get his skills together enough to fly in a mission. Probably most of us would be more then happy to.
But when numbered accounts flying two free weeks can ruin a mission made up of dozens who have been with the game for years?? When that can happen like it does then there is a serious problem.
The answer is simple. Dont allow the 2 weekers to "join mission" unless the mission C/O allows it. Even better allow the mission C/O control over whos in the mission overall.
Unfortunately, you would get the obligatory noob that would follow the mission that he wasn't allowed to join, and do all the same things.
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Noobs are all part of the charm of the game. Look at stephen waldron....entertaining...isn't he? :devil
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I had a suggestion a while back that took an entirely different tact. Why not have a room where experienced pilots begin the month with one life, and the new guys get unlimited lives. I think that would be interesting. A sort'a see how long the fighter jocks can survive against the nubbies. It would be fun just to look at the Roster and see how many kills they got before they caught one.
I don't know what the cut off number would be. Possibly any score under 1,000 the previous month would make you an experienced pilot, or, say over 50 kills. The exact number is negotiable.
Isn't this the way it happens in a REALWar ? Experienced pilots are irreplacable, arn't they ? You could even put a cap on how many new guys can fly for a country side based on a percentage of how much of their original territory they can manage to hold onto. Less territory, less fliers.
Now there's a room I'd like to see. I think it would be an interesting contest.
Once again wubbsy pulls another beauty out :lol
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Nubbie ? Actually I was playing combat flight simulator games back while most of you guys were still wearing diapers. Anybody remember playing "Wings of the Luftwaffe" ? I think that one came out around the late 1980's. That's 20 years ago fellas.
Oh i forgot. AFJROTC in 1972. I flew a B-52 flight simulator back then. Not on some dinky computer, but a REAL ONE. Same console and controls as a B-52. The whole windshield was a video screen. Darn thing even had some weather programmed into it. Jesus that was over 30 years ago. How long you been flyin simulator games ?
I'm guessing from the comments I'm seeing, most of you guys are what ? About 9 or 10 years old ?
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I'm guessing from the comments I'm seeing, most of you guys are what ? About 9 or 10 years old ?
flashback from another thread.
That one life thing is not very funny, being high ranked I want to enjoy furballs too. My 10 euros.
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Give up, stephen.
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Some of us were getting our PPLs back in the '80s..
If you're as old as you say you are then why are you having such a hard time following the advice being offered you?
The game isn't broken! Some of these folk were playing it's predecessor for $6/hour plus long distance (even international :O ) phone charges so I do not think dedication is a problem in this community.
The one thing that I find hard to swallow is this! AFJROTC in 1972
How in the hell do get by having such poor flight planning and SA? As far as I'm concerned you have just invalidated all of your excuses.
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Whoa!!!
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Nubbie ? Actually I was playing combat flight simulator games back while most of you guys were still wearing diapers. Anybody remember playing "Wings of the Luftwaffe" ? I think that one came out around the late 1980's. That's 20 years ago fellas.
Oh i forgot. AFJROTC in 1972. I flew a B-52 flight simulator back then. Not on some dinky computer, but a REAL ONE. Same console and controls as a B-52. The whole windshield was a video screen. Darn thing even had some weather programmed into it. Jesus that was over 30 years ago. How long you been flyin simulator games ?
I'm guessing from the comments I'm seeing, most of you guys are what ? About 9 or 10 years old ?
...and what you fail to understand is this isn't a "flight simulator". It is a "combat simulator". BTW, I've been playing "online combat simulators" for 18 years. So, while you were playing flight sim games against computers, I was doing it versus real people....noob. :)
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Not let new people in missions ?????? If not 4 the missions in my first two weeks of free play i would not have met the "ROX" and other 77th squad members who helped me by taking the time to explain the game more. This made me more excited to do well as not to let down the other members of the flight. And if I wasn't having fun I wouldn't have signed up. This is pay to play and if no one in two week free trial signs up it eventually ends the gaming experience :salute. Everyone was new to the game once, instead of keeping them out help them out.
OH yes i almost forgot not everyone has a flight stick or head phones to start give them a break !javascript:void(0);
salute
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Hey Cajunn don't know if ya'll noticed this, but Klover has posted a post in the squadron section saying that he wants to form a noobie only squad. Maybe we could get HT (I know it won't happen) to send the noobs to that squad. Also, maybe he could get some of the older members to drop in every once in a while to help out. Oh well just wanted to share that with ya'll. <S>
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Everyone was new to the game once, instead of keeping them out help them out.
Thats the point! We want to help them out and teach them but they wont let us and instead insist on flying along with, and screwing up, our missions.
I never had this problem. Having first spent 15 mins in the TA when I first joined learning how to fly and land.
Pssst, I think some are just kiddies who kinda enjoy screwing up everyone elses game.
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Flying lowside alot now, ive noticed newbs are all over. :noid
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I started Nov 2006 and was thrust into the knight side, never left...
Every side thinks they get all the new players.. Teach them the way of the force and enjoy..
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How long you been flyin simulator games ?
I'm guessing from the comments I'm seeing, most of you guys are what ? About 9 or 10 years old ?
12 years of WWII combat fighter sims against human opponents. Where have YOU been to insult us with your know it all attitude.
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aw bald eagle posted it first,
there is a HUGE difference between real people and a simulator.
People do things that are unexpected and sometimes ridiculous which makes you always aware and simulators well..if u have played them as much as you say you did i bet you could predict every move those bots were gonna do before they did it
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If im right, which i probably am. New comers go to the weakest country, to EVEN THE ODDS, unfortunately, its true, they just won't fly. Giving them help only makes it worse, and for the worst, the get vulched most of the time. They should have a tutorial lesson before they are able to spawn in a country.
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If im right, which i probably am. New comers go to the weakest country, to EVEN THE ODDS, unfortunately, its true, they just won't fly. Giving them help only makes it worse, and for the worst, the get vulched most of the time. They should have a tutorial lesson before they are able to spawn in a country.
How about you probably aren't? It's random.