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Title: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: valdals on June 24, 2008, 10:00:52 AM
6 months ago it took 2000lbs of bombs to kill a tiger. now it takes 250lbs of bombs. i was killed by a bomb from a la7. whats the deal? should the tiger not be perked anymore?
Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: Lusche on June 24, 2008, 10:06:49 AM
here we go again... oh my  :rolleyes:

Didn't you make exact the same topic only 5 days ago?


Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: Fulmar on June 24, 2008, 10:31:37 AM
Yes, lets feed this troll some more.  He hasn't had his fill!
Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: VansCrew1 on June 24, 2008, 10:38:53 AM
No maybe for you it 2000lbs to kill a tiger. Most people do it with 1 1000lbs or even a well placed 500lbs bomb. the LA7's bombs are armor piercing so in theory if he drops them both right on your head you might be killed.
Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: Lusche on June 24, 2008, 10:52:37 AM
the LA7's bombs are armor piercing

They are ordinary HE bombs.
Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: VansCrew1 on June 24, 2008, 11:03:50 AM
They are ordinary HE bombs.

oops i was thinking they had 100GP bombs.
Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: Lusche on June 24, 2008, 11:06:11 AM
oops i was thinking they had 100GP bombs.

They do - GP = General Purpose  ;)
Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: angelsandair on June 24, 2008, 11:14:15 AM
So is Valdals looking for a spot with CMustard for PNG?  :noid
Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: SIK1 on June 24, 2008, 11:30:19 AM
So is Valdals looking for a spot with CMustard for PNG?  :noid

We can only hope
Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: waystin2 on June 24, 2008, 11:33:55 AM
6 months ago it took 2000lbs of bombs to kill a tiger. now it takes 250lbs of bombs. i was killed by a bomb from a la7. whats the deal? should the tiger not be perked anymore?

 :huh I am speechless with this one.  Leave perk as is...
Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: DaveJ on June 24, 2008, 11:41:26 AM
HTC is out to get you valdals.
Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: Ack-Ack on June 24, 2008, 12:59:14 PM
6 months ago it took 2000lbs of bombs to kill a tiger. now it takes 250lbs of bombs. i was killed by a bomb from a la7. whats the deal? should the tiger not be perked anymore?

Holy JEEBUS!  You were killed when a plane dropped a bomb on your tank!?  How unfreaking realistic is that!?  I demand that HTC fix this damage model now!  I will not stand for this travesty!  I mean, a bomb hitting a tank?!?!  Crappy damage model if you ask me and HTC should reimburse each and everyone of us that has lost a Tiger due to being bombed!


ack-ack
Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: Warchief on June 24, 2008, 01:13:27 PM
Wait wait you are complainging about dieing to a bomb? :huh If an La7 hit dead on and killed all I can say this guy is  :aok :rock :salute and nice drop

I thought when I saw this it would be about how Tigers have become easily killed by GV's but instead another post that makes no sense. But then again everytime vanldals post when I know I will have a good  :rofl out of it
Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: Adonai on June 25, 2008, 01:55:43 AM
I think valdals needs to go play warcraft, after all he can play a troll and complain all he wants when he gets killed.
Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: moot on June 25, 2008, 03:29:08 AM
Someone show him what 250lbs of HE does, on youtube or something.
Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: lagger86 on June 25, 2008, 03:49:00 AM
There are GV's in this game? :huh
Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: Noir on June 25, 2008, 04:27:21 AM
the lala's are pretty damn precise dive bombers IMO, easy to put bombs right on a tank.

Imagine you are dropping 2 fat guys equivalent in TNT, and the explosion resulting.
Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: save on June 25, 2008, 06:23:35 AM
IRL you need a direct hit, or a very-close hit to destroy a tank with a GP bomb.
Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: SD67 on June 25, 2008, 07:06:27 AM
[Borat]Having good result from good Russian Aircraft bombing pesky GV's of all types!
Getting accurate drop from Capitalist American aircraft is not so good.[/Borat]
Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: Hazzer on June 25, 2008, 07:32:27 AM
 I would of thought,the shock from the explosion of a direct hit,even a 250lb bomb would be more than enough to kill all on board any tank,including the Tiger without having to penetrate the Armour.

  Though I'm sure someone will provide evidence to the contrary. ;)
Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: Hoffman on June 25, 2008, 12:00:43 PM
Quote from: Lieutenant Freherr von Rosen. Company commander in Tiger Battalion 503 attached to combat group Von Luck. Operation Goodwood 18 July 1944
The bombardment early in the morning of 18 July was the worst we had ever experienced in the war. Although we were in foxholes under our tanks, we had a lot of casualties.  Some of the 62-ton machines lay upside down in bomb craters 30 feet across; they had been spun through the air like playing cards.  Two of my men committed suicide; they weren't up to the psychological effect.  Of my 14 Tigers not one was operational.  All had been covered in dust and earth, the guns disadjusted, the cooling systems of the engines out of action.  Yet by early afternoon a few of my Tigers were ready for battle. I was to use them to attack westward in the flank of the British tank attack.
-excerpt from Panzer Commander, the Memoirs of Colonel Hans Von Luck.

Tigers are most certainly not invulnerable, even to near-misses by bombs.  It doesn't take a lot of explosive to render a tank inoperative, just enough in the right place.  M1A2's in Iraq have been flipped over by IED's which were nothing more than 2-3 155MM Howitzer shells wired together, that's not even 500 lbs of explosives.  And the Abrams is 10 tons heavier than a Tiger.

The deadliest (to human) part of an explosion is the shockwave, which can cause severe stress on the body, rupture ear-drums, shatter bones, disrupt organs etc. etc. etc.  Being inside the tank goes a long way to protecting the body from the shockwave, though.  Because the shockwave is omni-directional it dissipates very quickly and something as small as a table-leg can prevent lethal effects by disrupting it's path somewhat. (The Hitler Bomb) Even being a few feet further from the blast than someone else can greatly reduce the effect of the shockwave as it operates much like the intensity of sound, because it is after all just air being pushed outwards.

So, in answer to the thread.  Yes it is wholly feasible that the smallest bomb we can drop in AH2 can kill a tiger, it is also highly unlikey, but thanks to the laws of probability it is possible, and therefore will happen.  Even if it's one drop in 50,000.  It will happen.  And... hey... it happened.

You were just unlucky enough to be there when someone had a good day.
Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: wnt2 on June 25, 2008, 12:09:01 PM

You were just unlucky enough to be there when someone had a good day.

This is quite disturbing..I must be unlucky alot <tears up lottery ticket and stomps away>   :mad:
Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: SFCHONDO on June 25, 2008, 12:40:48 PM
I say we neuter valdals and be done with him    :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: Pannono on June 25, 2008, 12:51:40 PM
I've killed tigers with 2 bombs from A-20. You have to hit VERY close though. .salvo 2 and go get em!
Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: Adonai on June 25, 2008, 12:55:58 PM
I say we neuter valdals and be done with him    :D  :D  :D

ahahahahahahahaa Hondo  :salute
Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: angelsandair on June 25, 2008, 12:57:07 PM
6 months ago it took 2000lbs of bombs to kill a tiger. now it takes 250lbs of bombs. i was killed by a bomb from a la7. whats the deal? should the tiger not be perked anymore?

This is why we cant have Combat Tour.

YOUR COMPLAINING!
Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: minke on June 25, 2008, 01:03:06 PM
i always make sure i close the top hatch.............
Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: Pannono on June 25, 2008, 02:09:09 PM
i always make sure i close the top hatch.............
:rofl :rofl
but then how would you shoot your pintle gun at valdals jeep?
Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: Yeager on June 25, 2008, 03:52:12 PM
They do - GP = General Purpose  ;)

I thot GP stood for Grandoise Penetration  :aok
Title: Re: the tiger has been neutered
Post by: SPKmes on June 25, 2008, 04:13:50 PM
stick with the Tiger has anybody else noticed that squad emblems aren't on them... or is it just me...all other GV's have it.