Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Sunchaser on January 24, 2001, 12:25:00 AM
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....everyone keeps shooting me but the real reason is the favorite whipping boy, the C-Hog.
Burn it, remove it or perk the godamned thing!!
Please.
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When did they put this thing in here and WTF is it for?
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Good I deleted my account before 1.05, saved me from such nerve breakdown (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I disagree.
From my point of view, gameplay itself is funnier, only the planeset airborne and, thus, available to shoot down is "a little" boring. Seems like 90% Quakebirds lately.
Cheers,
Pepe
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It does get old playing Corsairs High
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Question:
Would you rather see a gaggle of C-Hogs or a gaggle of N1K's?
You'll see the latter if the C-Hog is eliminated.
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Ripsnort, you say that but you have no evidence. Stating something as fact when it is a theory is silly of you.
HTC, please make the F4U-1C a 5 point perk.
The F4U-1D is quite capable, so the Hog fans should not be left without a mount.
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We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother
Sisu
-Karnak
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Originally posted by Karnak:
Ripsnort, you say that but you have no evidence.
I have plenty of evidence, as a matter of fact, 11 years worth...in every flight sim online I've flown, at LEAST 20% will always fly the best A/C available. Any other questions, Grasshopper?
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Yeah, I know better than to answer arogantly like that...let me try it again...
I've seen a number of online sims where better than 20% of the population will always fly 'the best' A/C in the sim, ie. whichever A/C has generally a better advantage over their counter-parts.
I just hate to see this thing turn into a 'Perk this plane/Vehicle' war...if you do one, you may be opening up a flood gate, but, Pyro knows more about this than I do, so, perk the C-Hog, makes no dif to me...other than I will have to deal with an overwhelming number of N1K's and IMO, they are much more difficult to put up with than the C-Hogs.
<S> Karnak
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CHOG and N1k should be both perked.
Its all I see lately during field attacks. CHOGS on the attacking side and N1ks on the side defending. Why? CHOG is good for ground attack and can easily WING COMMANDER its way into snap shooting any defenders coming from nearby fields..even if they have alt advantage. N1k can loop 11 times and gain alt on each one right after takeoff and its guns are just like the chog's.
They are extremely unbalancing. They must be perked as either 5 or 8 point perks. If you really want the cannon power and antigrav drive performance, you should first DESERVE it.
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See, Pyro? Tac makes my point I made a month ago, where does it stop?
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Rip...I don't think it's going to turn into much of a problem as far as what to perk. Pyro gave the reasons for why he'd perk the Chog, and it wasn't to give into the whiners (hi Tac!), it was because of how it skewed the point system. Hopefully they can find a way around that and not have to perk the Chog, but if not, it sounds like it's gonna be pretty cheap, and the whiners will have even more to whine about. Good sticks will still be able to fly the Chog regularly...I find few things more frightening then that bastard (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) KBMan and his Chog coming at me with alt.
SOB
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I don't see what the big deal is. If you can't shoot down a certain type of plane, don't engage it. It's not like there isn't a huge neon sign above each con telling you from miles away what kind of plane it is. The chog is a great jabo plane, for a2a I'd rather be in my 109F. And yes, two pings from a chog and my 109F disintegrates. But that's my fault for letting him get the shot in..
Eagler
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"I don't see what the big deal is. If you can't shoot down a certain type of plane, don't engage it"
If it was done that way folks would need full fuel and DT's so they could roam the arena for a few hours trying to find something besides a Nik or Chog that wasnt already being attacked by a Nik or Chog.
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Eagler, I do not engage other planes, I fly bombers.
The C hog is a freak and does not belong in a WWII simulation that does not concern itself with the last five minutes of WWII but its presence in this GAME does not really bother me that much.
I agree with Ripsnort, the N1K will be the next unbalancer if the C hog is removed or perked too high.
At least the N1K served for a reasonable time and in sufficient numbers to make falling to them over 20% of the time a bit less irritating..
The solution is an Historical Arena for us crybabies.
And I will betcha that if/when we ever get one it will, after the new wears off, usually be empty.
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When did they put this thing in here and WTF is it for?
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Totally agree with ya Sun.
Rip, I don't see the Nik will be flown that much as the damC-Hog is flown now.
Perk that Damn thing (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif).
Maik
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Ripsnorts right about one thing, to qoute stiglr you will always have the pilots with "gottawinnitis" flying the plane that gives the biggest advantage.
One player mentioned in this thread came from WB where he flew the Spit9 almost every sortie, S.O.S. - different game. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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"Good sticks will still be able to fly the Chog regularly...I find few things more frightening then that bastard KBMan and his Chog coming at me with alt"
Exactly. Perk the thing and make people PAY perk points if they want to fly a hispano variant of the D-Hog.
Frankly I dont give a damn why they consider perking the CHOG. Just perk it. I say it is unbalancing, HTC may say its because of their math. Who cares? As long as its perked im happy.
To say that then the n1k will be perked and then the spit and then other planes is something I HOPE for. I would like to see ALL late war planes be cheap perks so as to give the early and midwar planeset a reason to be and stay competitive. Uberplanes like the me262 and other monstrousities of its kind should be costly perks because of their very nature. I would love to be able to fly my P-51B or P-38F . (early)P-47, 109E , Hurricane Mk1, Spit Mk5 etc knowing that I have a slightly high chance of meeting a late war plane (respectively P-51D, P-38L, P-47N 109g10, latest Hurricane mk, Spit Mk15+), a very good chance of meeting planes of the mid-early war and a very low chance of getting popped by an me262 firing air to air rockets and then 20mm at my chute.
Almost every plane in AH has early/mid/late war/uber versions of itself. Just perk the latest one and let people fly the other 2 if they like that plane and earn the right to go up in their late war version for a cheap 5 perkies or in their ubermonster for a good amount of perkies.
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Once we have the perk system, I do not mind having every single plane perked. I mean, as Pyro stated, perk system goal is to improve diversity in plane usage. If this is true, Perk system will have to be a dynamic system, with frequent changes in values. More than a way to acquire exotic planes, I see it closer to golf's handicap system. If this is the way, I'm all for it.
Some week/tour/day/whatever you will see C-Hog is a, say, 5 perkies, some other would be, say, 15, yet some other not perked, and so on for the whole planeset.
Anyway, It's not a concern for me until I see how's the impact in gameplay.
Cheers,
Pepe
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Would you rather see 5 FW190's attacking your base, or 5 Niki's?
TARDS
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N1K's.. they can't run (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
SKurj
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Originally posted by SKurj:
N1K's.. they can't run (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
SKurj
They don't need to run. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) A FW190A8 does if it gets low on E.
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Nice siggy Creamy (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)