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Title: I love classical music
Post by: moot on June 25, 2008, 09:56:41 AM
And it's a strange thing to admit, at parties (for example) just after you were chatting with strangers about the strange and overwhelming primal rush of breaking something with your bare hands, or surfing down a daunting slope of snow for the first time, or racing a 700hp car for the first time, etc etc.  It's also why I love math and techno music. You're thinking OMG math is gibberish and techno is trashy cheap computerized crap, but the two have the same quality that makes classical music a construct that's so impervious to erosion, that's timelessly appealing: "the long, long line" of musical syntax.

http://www.ted.com/talks/view/id/286

Once you see that syntax in math, in musical sentences like you find in the top 5% of quality electro music (as opposed to the rest of the ultra-repetitive and unimaginative electronic music (and a lot of other unimaginative and/or repetitive music of all genres) and provided you have the patience and memory to listen thru entire tracks' "stories" and suspend your disbelief at the weird phonetics) in algorithms and other patterns artificial and natural, etc, you never go back.  You start seeing those crazy, and often enough, beautiful patterns in the most random places, and everything gets a lot more interesting and inspiring.
Title: Re: I love classical music
Post by: Mojava on June 25, 2008, 10:31:49 AM
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Title: Re: I love classical music
Post by: Hazzer on June 25, 2008, 10:36:35 AM
I like it it too,for what it's worth. :)
Title: Re: I love classical music
Post by: texasmom on June 25, 2008, 10:38:24 AM
That was a great one to watch.  :aok
Title: Re: I love classical music
Post by: AWMac on June 25, 2008, 11:21:27 AM
Thank you Moot.

 :aok

Mac
Title: Re: I love classical music
Post by: moot on June 25, 2008, 08:18:44 PM
  Hey Moot, check these out, I think you'll appreciate them, http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/9349/ (http://www.geocities.com/Vienna/9349/)  and a cool flash game,http://www.avoision.com/experiments/pi10k/index.php (http://www.avoision.com/experiments/pi10k/index.php)
Great, thanks :)

The funny thing about math is that most people went through school (I moved a lot and have been in maybe a dozen different schools from kindergarten to college) thinking it was really complicated and incomprehensible, and this is most often the sort of people who were more art-minded in one way or another.. They had a sense for fashion, or sculpture, or social trends, or litterature, etc.  But those were even more complex patterns than any of the math I ran into in class and on my own.. It was funny how they could integrate those complex patterns to the point of second nature, and that in every creative impulse they made were so many more specific rules and exact nuances, but that they didn't recognize the same (you could say musical) syntax in math and other less obviously musical subjects.
Now, this idea's probably been noticed by a lot of other people, and like I did, it's been said explicitely enough to enough of the people blind to math that it's common knowledge.  Math fractals recognized as art (although that's still pretty cryptic), etc.  Two things that're for sure are that a grasp of math definitely connects a lot of dots in education, and that math is really easy..  The biggest difficulty is the initial learning effort, and having a malleable enough mind to keep learning all the way into the most advanced bits..  My last step brother is 20 years younger than I, and at 5 years old he's somehow loving math and has as much fun playing with it as he does with crayolas and music lessons. 
Title: Re: I love classical music
Post by: Halo on June 25, 2008, 11:21:06 PM
Huh?  Good thing music notes only go from A to G or I'd really be lost.   :confused:
Title: Re: I love classical music
Post by: DREDIOCK on June 26, 2008, 12:49:44 AM
My Father was really into it.
so as a kid I was force fed it.

Cant help but enjoy it.
Depending on my mood