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Title: X-52 problems
Post by: Yossarian on June 25, 2008, 12:19:00 PM
Hi, I've been using my X-52 for about a week now, and it's already had two problems.

The first was a few days after I got it (maybe 2) and I was in Aces High when suddenly the stick completely uncalibrated itself - from the AH scaling screen, it said the stick was pushed forwards 50% when it was actually centred (this happened with both the X and Y axes).  When I checked the Saitek X-52 control panel thing, it showed the same thing.
This happened shortly after I had been using a set of USB headphones (with a built in microphone) for the first time.
Anyway, after I rebooted the computer, it seemed to be recalibrated again, but then I reopened Aces High, this time the stick just didn't respond, then I got a Blue Screen of Death which said "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL".

I reinstalled all the Saitek drivers (but deleted and didn't reinstall the profiling software), and then it worked fine, but without some of the other functions such as the mouse thing until today.

Today, I was flying a bomber around a capped field, when suddenly the stick stopped working.  After I closed AH, I noticed that on the X-52's MFD, it didn't display anything when I pressed buttons on the stick.  So I rebooted the computer, and same problem.  Then I reinstalled the Saitek profiling software, turned out it was an older version (from it's appearance), but now the stick seems to work fine.

Any help is appreciated.

<S>

Yossarian

EDIT:  Another thing I've always noticed is that when I press the clutch button (the one on the throttle with the "i" on it), the LED for that button flashes on/off, and also the LED for the joystick's main hatswitch flashes on and off.  When I'm not pressing that "i" button, both lights stay on.  By the way, when I have the "Saitek Control Panel" open, and I press that button, the lights do not flash.
Title: Re: X-52 problems
Post by: trumpman on June 25, 2008, 01:12:41 PM
Be sure and reseat your "S" cable running between the throttle and the stick. I have  failures related to contact resistance there. Just too busy flying to order a new one.

Regards,
Trump
Title: Re: X-52 problems
Post by: Yossarian on June 25, 2008, 01:16:57 PM
Surely if that were damaged/not working correctly, it would only cause the buttons on the joystick segment itself to stop working (as well as the joystick), but the throttle and it's buttons would continue to work.  What I noticed was that none of the button presses were registering on the MFD.

<S>

Yossarian
Title: Re: X-52 problems
Post by: ink on June 27, 2008, 11:22:59 AM
if the buttons on my x-52 flash, its due to the wire from the throttle to the stick coming slightly out of contact.
Title: Re: X-52 problems
Post by: Hedworx on June 27, 2008, 03:10:30 PM
I had an issue where my throttle was at 50% even though I had it at idle.  This to was caused by the cable not in complete contact.

Another thing that I have read about that helps and therefore I use, is a powered usb hub.   Calibrate the controls in Windows also.  In the Windows calibrating area, I added a very small dead area to the stick.  That eliminated the small twitching of the controls when looking in the AH settings.

Others may have better suggestions, but this is what worked for me so I haven't looked into it any further.

Good Luck.

Title: Re: X-52 problems
Post by: MajQBall on June 27, 2008, 05:52:28 PM
Have you resolved your problems with the X-52.  I am looking for a new joystick.   I have the freedom 2.4 corless joystick.  This joystick is OK but some of the buttons stick and it lacks a second hat switch.  What do you think of the X-52 and do you have the pro version.

Thanks,
Title: Re: X-52 problems
Post by: Yossarian on June 27, 2008, 07:25:02 PM
Have you resolved your problems with the X-52.  I am looking for a new joystick.   I have the freedom 2.4 corless joystick.  This joystick is OK but some of the buttons stick and it lacks a second hat switch.  What do you think of the X-52 and do you have the pro version.

Thanks,

When this X-52 works (which is usually), it is superb.  I doubt I'm using even a third of its capabilities and it's still brilliant, as in it is literally fun to use.  Some people have said that it's too easy to push the stick around; I think that it's just fun, easy, and feels nice/has good response.

As to the reliability, as long as it doesn't do anything else other than what it has already done, I'm happy.  Sure, it'd be nice if it always worked perfectly, but in my opinion it's so good that one or two inconveniences don't matter too much.

Also, I do not have the Pro version.

<S>

Yossarian
Title: Re: X-52 problems
Post by: MajQBall on June 27, 2008, 11:12:46 PM
Thank you for the information about the x52.
Title: Re: X-52 problems
Post by: ink on June 27, 2008, 11:56:23 PM
check out this sloppy fix for x-52

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,239483.0.html
Title: Re: X-52 problems
Post by: TexInVa on July 01, 2008, 08:28:18 AM
My problem is lack of Z Rotation. It's either full rudder or no rudder. I've looked and the properties in windows and it moves nicely. Just not in AH.
Title: Re: X-52 problems
Post by: Eagler on July 01, 2008, 12:43:21 PM
My problem is lack of Z Rotation. It's either full rudder or no rudder. I've looked and the properties in windows and it moves nicely. Just not in AH.

be sure to calibrate ALL of your axis in AH as well as windows
Title: Re: X-52 problems
Post by: ink on July 01, 2008, 01:13:31 PM
My problem is lack of Z Rotation. It's either full rudder or no rudder. I've looked and the properties in windows and it moves nicely. Just not in AH.

awesome fix for that issue is

GET RUDDER PEDALS. oh did i shout that sorry.
Title: Re: X-52 problems
Post by: DustyR on July 02, 2008, 06:37:46 AM
One thing I found that helps with the X-52, use a powered USB hub.  Most failed units can be traced to low USB voltage.  :aok :noid
Title: Re: X-52 problems
Post by: ink on July 02, 2008, 01:01:06 PM
One thing I found that helps with the X-52, use a powered USB hub.  Most failed units can be traced to low USB voltage.  :aok :noid

first thing i did when i got mine was walk over to the hubs.

never had an issue its been about a year.
Title: Re: X-52 problems
Post by: Damionte on July 03, 2008, 03:52:36 AM
I've about had it with these sticks.

The standard X-52's all seem to have this problem. I've now burned through three of them. I'm going to see if I can't get them to send me a pro stick in exchange of these two standards I have neither of which work. Both having this same problem.
Title: Re: X-52 problems
Post by: V3cToR on July 04, 2008, 10:47:53 PM
I've about had it with these sticks.

The standard X-52's all seem to have this problem. I've now burned through three of them. I'm going to see if I can't get them to send me a pro stick in exchange of these two standards I have neither of which work. Both having this same problem.

I took mine back!  After screwing with it for an entire week I got sick of it.  I didn't care for the sloppy stick handling.  I instead went back to my ole reliable 3DPro.  I took everyone's advice and bought a Belkin powered USB hub.  I still kept getting "light flashes" and losing calibration.  I didn't need the hassle so after owning it for a week, I took it back for a full refund.  I think the stick is nothing more than a big ole pile of poop.  Just my two cents of course.
Title: Re: X-52 problems
Post by: ink on July 04, 2008, 11:18:42 PM
well that sux V3,  maybe im lucky mines been fine.
Title: Re: X-52 problems
Post by: Lye-El on July 05, 2008, 07:02:21 PM
After I wore the center out of my x-45 I went with the X-52 Pro. It has been a really nice stick...and no pots to wear out.
Title: Re: X-52 problems
Post by: SD67 on July 06, 2008, 05:13:18 AM
Almost 3 years on my X52 set. No issues yet. A powered USB hub is a must because they are very power hungry... much like some players :lol
Title: Re: X-52 problems
Post by: yanksfan on July 06, 2008, 12:54:38 PM
I've had my x52 for almost 3 years, no problems
Title: Re: X-52 problems
Post by: Bruv119 on July 08, 2008, 05:17:11 AM
one of my squaddies posted  his x52 to another squaddie because he hated it un-calibrating all the time (gave it away for free and paid the P+P).  I'm not sure whether he invested in a usb hub or not but rumble didnt have much luck with it either.

I've tested the x52 around wurzels house and thought I'd show him some of my uber skillz  and I just couldn't get anything out of it.  Infact it made me look worse than wurzel !!!   

CH all the way.



Title: Re: X-52 problems
Post by: ink on July 08, 2008, 09:13:43 AM
I've come to learn its usually  the operator, not the equipment :D