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Title: ~remodeling on F6F-5~
Post by: h338 on June 30, 2008, 02:09:55 AM
well ive just recently discovered the hellcat as an awesome airplane in the game and to be honest the inside needs a little more work

ive seen the inside of an F6F-5 in real life and it doesnt look like it does in the game

                 H338
Title: Re: ~remodeling on F6F-5~
Post by: ian5440 on July 01, 2008, 02:12:21 PM
really?? :huh
(http://www.thescale.info/news/uploads/hellcat53.jpg)

(http://www.thescale.info/news/uploads/hellcat51.jpg)

(http://www.thescale.info/news/uploads/hellcat49.jpg)

that looks a lot like the F6F we have   :D
Title: Re: ~remodeling on F6F-5~
Post by: Motherland on July 01, 2008, 02:13:39 PM
No.
The F6F-5, Macchis, and Hurricanes need remodeled big time.
Title: Re: ~remodeling on F6F-5~
Post by: ian5440 on July 01, 2008, 02:14:54 PM
No.
The F6F-5, Macchis, and Hurricanes need remodeled big time.

when u say remodel, are u just talking about the insides? because those planes fly great??
Title: Re: ~remodeling on F6F-5~
Post by: Motherland on July 01, 2008, 02:17:08 PM
Well, according to knowledgeable others, the F6F is, IIRC 20mph to slow, and the Hurricane may be a bit overmodeled.
Other than that, yes, I'm talking about the graphics model.
Title: Re: ~remodeling on F6F-5~
Post by: ian5440 on July 01, 2008, 02:19:08 PM
Well, according to knowledgeable others, the F6F is, IIRC 20mph to slow, and the Hurricane may be a bit overmodeled.
Other than that, yes, I'm talking about the graphics model.

 :aok
Title: Re: ~remodeling on F6F-5~
Post by: Krusty on July 01, 2008, 02:29:44 PM
The hurricane, p40s, zeros, ki61, all have suspect flight models and early-era graphics models.

However, HTC is particular about which testing data they use. To them, the F6F is probably as fast as it should be. That may not change even with a graphics update.
Title: Re: ~remodeling on F6F-5~
Post by: Rambo Fan on July 01, 2008, 10:05:55 PM
Well, according to knowledgeable others, the F6F is, IIRC 20mph to slow, and the Hurricane may be a bit overmodeled.
Other than that, yes, I'm talking about the graphics model.

Quite true, even the SPIT XVI is suppose to go 362mph,but instead it goes what? 350mph??I usually got 310mph max most of the time, i think we need to make the plane just a tiny bit faster.
Title: Re: ~remodeling on F6F-5~
Post by: Motherland on July 01, 2008, 10:19:53 PM
Quite true, even the SPIT XVI is suppose to go 362mph,but instead it goes what? 350mph??I usually got 310mph max most of the time, i think we need to make the plane just a tiny bit faster.
:huh
The top speed of the Spitfire Mk.XVI in game is over 400 mph.
Title: Re: ~remodeling on F6F-5~
Post by: angelsandair on July 01, 2008, 10:35:10 PM
REMODEL THE TYPHOON/TEMPEST/P-40!!!




Seriously though IMO, they should update the 110. The 110 sees so much use compared to alot of the planes we need to update. :aok
Title: Re: ~remodeling on F6F-5~
Post by: Anaxogoras on July 01, 2008, 10:39:15 PM
Yes, the F6F is too slow at altitude.  Has this always been the case?
Title: Re: ~remodeling on F6F-5~
Post by: whiteman on July 01, 2008, 10:43:06 PM
Always for updating a blue plane. :aok
Title: Re: ~remodeling on F6F-5~
Post by: HighTone on July 01, 2008, 10:53:35 PM
I very much agree that some work is needed on the F6F-5. :aok
Title: Re: ~remodeling on F6F-5~
Post by: ian5440 on July 01, 2008, 11:29:35 PM
Yes, the F6F is too slow at altitude.  Has this always been the case?

ya but the reason its so slow is because its and "elephant" (quoted by DasNutt) it has the wingspan is over 42 ft and weighs over 12,000lbs
it should go slow, but in a dive that boy hauls 
Title: Re: ~remodeling on F6F-5~
Post by: h338 on July 02, 2008, 01:26:01 AM
ian, buddy, but in real like it was faster...just give it up  :D
Title: Re: ~remodeling on F6F-5~
Post by: DaveJ on July 02, 2008, 06:59:00 AM
Quite true, even the SPIT XVI is suppose to go 362mph,but instead it goes what? 350mph??I

It's fast enough.
Title: Re: ~remodeling on F6F-5~
Post by: BaldEagl on July 02, 2008, 08:37:45 AM
:huh
The top speed of the Spitfire Mk.XVI in game is over 400 mph.

Not in level flight at any altitude.
Title: Re: ~remodeling on F6F-5~
Post by: spit16nooby on July 02, 2008, 08:50:29 AM
Well since know one else has brought this up yet
We need the he-111 we need it because it fills a gap and there is no need to add anything before this.
Title: Re: ~remodeling on F6F-5~
Post by: Motherland on July 02, 2008, 10:14:12 AM
Not in level flight at any altitude.
:huh
(http://flyaceshigh.com/ahhelp/models/charts/spit16spd.gif)
Well since know one else has brought this up yet
We need the he-111 we need it because it fills a gap and there is no need to add anything before this.
This thread is about existing aircraft that need updated...
Title: Re: ~remodeling on F6F-5~
Post by: BaldEagl on July 02, 2008, 10:24:38 AM
:huh
(http://flyaceshigh.com/ahhelp/models/charts/spit16spd.gif)This thread is about existing aircraft that need updated...

I wasn't considering WEP.  You'll notice without WEP it never hits 400.  Even with WEP it only does so from ~18-25000 feet.  If you're WEPing that high it's usually because your engaged, not flying along at 400+.
Title: Re: ~remodeling on F6F-5~
Post by: Krusty on July 02, 2008, 10:40:53 AM
Every "top speed" in the game uses WEP, hehehe...

Almost every top speed in WW2 tests also uses max power settings, otherwise it's not "max" speed, just "middle" speed  :D :aok
Title: Re: ~remodeling on F6F-5~
Post by: AirFlyer on July 02, 2008, 10:45:12 AM
The hurricane, p40s, zeros, ki61, all have suspect flight models and early-era graphics models.

I've noticed this too, it seems our zero has far to many parts for some reason...

(http://www.preservedaxisaircraft.com/Japan/Mitsubishi/images/ZekeIWM_Duxford.jpg)

Finding the closest Rook hoard is usually the best way to fix this problem.  :noid
Title: Re: ~remodeling on F6F-5~
Post by: Captfish on July 02, 2008, 11:06:04 AM
Hellcat Alliance of Cartoon Killers or H.A.C.K. has been waiting along time for a fesh F6F   :pray

 I think our Hellcat needs the rebuild the most.
(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l191/captfish/unluckyhellcat.jpg)
Title: Re: ~remodeling on F6F-5~
Post by: Rambo Fan on July 02, 2008, 12:36:37 PM
:huh
(http://flyaceshigh.com/ahhelp/models/charts/spit16spd.gif)This thread is about existing aircraft that need updated...
It goes 347mph, great, wrong by 3 mph. Thats not the point.
Title: Re: ~remodeling on F6F-5~
Post by: Widewing on July 02, 2008, 12:55:44 PM
Yes, the F6F is too slow at altitude.  Has this always been the case?

Yes...

Should easily top 400 (406-409) mph at altitude (around 22k). It does no better than 386 mph. Heck, the F6F-3 could do 391 mph.

Speed below 15k (or there about; I have the data in my notebook) is correct, or close enough.

There's Navy test data showing 393 mph at MIL power (no WEP) and around 408 mph with WEP. Just remember that WEP lowers the critical altitude some.

The reason it has little effect on game play is that few F6Fs will be found above 15k.

My regards,

Widewing