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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: valdals on July 07, 2008, 09:53:54 AM
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id like to see the KV1 and KV2 tank added. it had good armor and was tough to kill. the KV1 had a 75mm anti tank gun and the KV2 carried HE rounds
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that KV2 is 1 weird lookin tank with its huge turret
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id like to see the KV1 and KV2 tank added. it had good armor and was tough to kill. the KV1 had a 75mm anti tank gun and the KV2 carried HE rounds
Im curious how was the kv1 or 2's armor compared to the tigr and panzer? You said the kv2 carried HE did it also carry AP or was HE only option? Looks pretty cool and we need another russian tank. :aok :aok :pray
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Another Russian tank with no machine gun........ hmmmmm
Ah, why not!!!
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Need a British tank first.
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Im curious how was the kv1 or 2's armor compared to the tigr and panzer? You said the kv2 carried HE did it also carry AP or was HE only option? Looks pretty cool and we need another russian tank. :aok :aok :pray
the KV2 was designed as a bunker buster with a 152mm main gun. not sure if it carried AP.
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Either KV would be a good addition... after we have a viable tank destroyer (M18?).
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We need a polish tank. The main gun is loaded from the outside and it shoots in the turret. :rofl :rofl I crack myself up sometimes. :lol Ok as you were <<S>> :salute
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We need a polish tank. The main gun is loaded from the outside and it shoots in the turret. :rofl :rofl I crack myself up sometimes. :lol Ok as you were <<S>> :salute
I WOULD LOVE TO DRIVE IT
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Need a British tank first.
WHY ???????? They were all a piece of , well you know. We have talked this one into the ground. British tanks could not even compete with our current tank selection let alone any further uber selections. In my opinion the Stug would make the most sence since it would bridge the entire ew-lw era's and then move up from there. But a British tank doesnt make sence. The KV models don't make any sence either. T-34/85 or Panther would make a better addition. The KV 1 was on a basic T-34 frame so killing it the same way you kill a regular T-34 would be all you need to do. The turret might take a little more of a pounding than the T-34 but that's it.
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WHY ???????? They were all a piece of , well you know. We have talked this one into the ground. British tanks could not even compete with our current tank selection let alone any further uber selections.
You're kidding right? You DOknow that the Sherman we have IS a British tank right?
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WHY ???????? They were all a piece of , well you know. We have talked this one into the ground. British tanks could not even compete with our current tank selection let alone any further uber selections. In my opinion the Stug would make the most sence since it would bridge the entire ew-lw era's and then move up from there. But a British tank doesnt make sence. The KV models don't make any sence either. T-34/85 or Panther would make a better addition. The KV 1 was on a basic T-34 frame so killing it the same way you kill a regular T-34 would be all you need to do. The turret might take a little more of a pounding than the T-34 but that's it.
The only thing shared between the T-34 and the KV1 was the engine, transmission and gun. Though, I do agree that adding the KV1 at this point adds nothing new to the game that the T-34 doesn't already offer. The only real thing the KV1 might offer is better armor but by 1942 the invincibility the KV1 once enjoyed was no longer there after the Germans started to field better armament for their tanks.
It would end up being just a pill box in AH for base defense.
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the KV2 was designed as a bunker buster with a 152mm main gun. not sure if it carried AP.
The KV2 was nothing more than a mobile heavy artillery vehicle with a mounted 152mm howitzer and it didn't fire AP rounds. It wasn't very successful either and only around 250 were made between 1940-1941. It was expensive to produce, it was very slow and the turret had traversing issues which pretty much only allowed it to traverse on level ground as a slope or an incline would make it almost impossible to traverse the turret.
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British tanks could not even compete with our current tank selection let alone any further uber selections.
As someone noted the Firefly was a very effective British tank even though it was a modified Sherman. The Achilles IIC was also an effective British tank destroyer (based off the M-10). There was also the Comet though I don't know how much action it saw. I believe some of the tanks in the Crusader and Cromwell series were also rather effective and there was the Archer, another British tank that fielded the dreaded 17 pounder main gun. There also had a number of successful early war tanks like the Matilda.
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As someone noted the Firefly was a very effective British tank even though it was a modified Sherman.
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That would be me :)
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I vote for the KV1 but the KV2 is bound to blast the crap out of many tanks, besides its very slow and can easily be killed, no use but KV1 is awesome.
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they also made a kv85. it had the same gun as the t34/85.
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As someone noted the Firefly was a very effective British tank even though it was a modified Sherman. The Achilles IIC was also an effective British tank destroyer (based off the M-10). There was also the Comet though I don't know how much action it saw. I believe some of the tanks in the Crusader and Cromwell series were also rather effective and there was the Archer, another British tank that fielded the dreaded 17 pounder main gun. There also had a number of successful early war tanks like the Matilda.
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The Comet saw no major action and yes the Firefly and other 17lber armed tanks were effective however at stand off range non were able to compete against late war German armor. It's hard for me to vote for a British tank when I know they won't be able to compete . The Matilda would be a good EW tank addition but a tank that can be used in all arenas makes more sence.
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If we gonna add a Russian tank, how 'bout a JS-II?
American, i've always wanted a M26 Pershing.
Opinions?
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If we gonna add a Russian tank, how 'bout a JS-II?
American, i've always wanted a M26 Pershing.
Opinions?
IS-11 is a uber tank . Not much here to kill it. I have read about Tigers taking them out but at close range. I also read that even King Tigers had to hit them in the right spot to kill them on the first shot.
If we do get a few new GV's heres what I think,
German - Panther
American M-10
Russian - T-34/85
British - none
These would still be able to be handled by current tanks and are additions that would get used .
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I vote for the KV1 but the KV2 is bound to blast the crap out of many tanks, besides its very slow and can easily be killed, no use but KV1 is awesome.
KV2 was not designed or intended to fight other tanks. It was a mobile artillery platform. Sure, you could kill tanks with it with indirect fire like you could with any other howitzer but as a dedicated tank hunter or battle tank, that's not what the KV-2 was used for. It wasn't all that successful for the reasons I posted in my previous reply.
The KV-1 will not bring anything to the game that the T-34 doesn't already bring.
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The only thing shared between the T-34 and the KV1 was the engine, transmission and gun. Though, I do agree that adding the KV1 at this point adds nothing new to the game that the T-34 doesn't already offer. The only real thing the KV1 might offer is better armor but by 1942 the invincibility the KV1 once enjoyed was no longer there after the Germans started to field better armament for their tanks.
It would end up being just a pill box in AH for base defense.
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basicly that was what I was refering too, the armor wasn't much thicker between the T-34 and the KV1. In fact the larger wheels acted as extra armor. The KV1 had a small portion of the hull exposed.
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they also made a kv85. it had the same gun as the t34/85.
And as with the other KV tanks, it was heavy, slow and it's armor offered relatively little protection against the better guns of the Tiger and Panther tanks. It was also only a stop gap measure until the Iosef Stalin heavy tank was fully in production with only 130 KV-85 tanks made. However, the KV-85 was a step above the KV-1 heavy tank.
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id like to see the KV1 and KV2 tank added. it had good armor and was tough to kill. the KV1 had a 75mm anti tank gun and the KV2 carried HE rounds
This what happens to a KV-1 tank when it meets a Tiger tank, so much for better armor protection.
(http://www.geocities.com/pentagon/quarters/4635/tanks/kv85/kv1s_knocked_out.jpg)
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If we gonna add a Russian tank, how 'bout a JS-II?
American, i've always wanted a M26 Pershing.
Opinions?
Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I thought the JS-II's turret was manually cranked? My basic thought is that the current GV set needs the smaller / earlier vehicles rather than more ultra-uber super-perked tanks that people keep asking for (JS-II or III, King Tiger, Maus, blah blah blah). The T-34/85 seems a logical add as another variant on an existing chassis. If another tank were to be added, I would suggest something like a BT-7 or T-26, which could be used in any of the mains (instead of just late war), and would be our first true light tanks.
The Pershing IMO in game terms (gun, armor, etc.) would be indestinguishable from the Tiger except for the .50 cal pintle, and therefore not necessary until much later down the line (assuming there is a much later down the line for GVs in this game).
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Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I thought the JS-II's turret was manually cranked? My basic thought is that the current GV set needs the smaller / earlier vehicles rather than more ultra-uber super-perked tanks that people keep asking for (JS-II or III, King Tiger, Maus, blah blah blah). The T-34/85 seems a logical add as another variant on an existing chassis. If another tank were to be added, I would suggest something like a BT-7 or T-26, which could be used in any of the mains (instead of just late war), and would be our first true light tanks.
The Pershing IMO in game terms (gun, armor, etc.) would be indestinguishable from the Tiger except for the .50 cal pintle, and therefore not necessary until much later down the line (assuming there is a much later down the line for GVs in this game).
id rather have the m24 chaffee or the lee tank than the bt7 or t26
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Well, If they do add a new AFV it should be competitive across the board and that is why I suggested the Stug. It could compete in all arenas since it served from early on. The up-gunned models still would be on even terms with our current panzer and a well commanded panzer is still very dangerous even in LW. Plus the added protection that exceeds the current armor of the panzer, Firefly and T-34. The only downside is the turretless design which would really add a learning curve to be competitive in it but the barrel traverse should give it enough range in an ambush role without having to start the engine in order to line the hull up with it's target. Maybe give it the ability to traverse the hull from the gunsight position.
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Well, If they do add a new AFV it should be competitive across the board and that is why I suggested the Stug. It could compete in all arenas since it served from early on. The up-gunned models still would be on even terms with our current panzer and a well commanded panzer is still very dangerous even in LW. Plus the added protection that exceeds the current armor of the panzer, Firefly and T-34. The only downside is the turretless design which would really add a learning curve to be competitive in it but the barrel traverse should give it enough range in an ambush role without having to start the engine in order to line the hull up with it's target. Maybe give it the ability to traverse the hull from the gunsight position.
the stug would be a good option but would be very difficult for 1 person to operate. the gun had a minimum traverse and would have to be steared to aim. using a rudder system would work but make the gun inaccurate due to the gun barrel bouncing around.
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the stug would be a good option but would be very difficult for 1 person to operate. the gun had a minimum traverse and would have to be steared to aim. using a rudder system would work but make the gun inaccurate due to the gun barrel bouncing around.
I don't know if it would ba any different that shooting on the move, some guys are masters at it timing the bouncing gun barrel perfect.
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This what happens to a KV-1 tank when it meets a Tiger tank, so much for better armor protection.
(http://www.geocities.com/pentagon/quarters/4635/tanks/kv85/kv1s_knocked_out.jpg)
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I believe that's not a KV-1, but a JS-1, which should be even tougher. Your point is still a good one though.:aok JS-1's had really weak turret armor, but still better than the KV-1. Both were fodder for Tigers.
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I believe that's not a KV-1, but a JS-1, which should be even tougher. Your point is still a good one though.:aok JS-1's had really weak turret armor, but still better than the KV-1. Both were fodder for Tigers.
Nope, it was a KV-1.
And this poor KV-1 got the crap ganged out of it by Tigers.
(http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Quarters/4635/tanks/kv1/kv1_hit_several_times.jpg)
The above tank took more than 30 direct hits. Notice that only the turret side wasn't penetrated and it was finally finished off by an 88mm anti-tank gun fired at close range.
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This what happens to a KV-1 tank when it meets a Tiger tank, so much for better armor protection.
(http://www.geocities.com/pentagon/quarters/4635/tanks/kv85/kv1s_knocked_out.jpg)
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I think that's a Js-1. (Is-1)
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I think that's a Js-1. (Is-1)
It is NOT an IS-1. That is a KV-1.
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It is NOT an IS-1. That is a KV-1.
I thought the KV-1 had the bigger turrets?
I'm not the one to argue, just looked alot like the Js-1 (IS-1)
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Its probably a KV-1B or a KV-1C with a cast turret, forgoing the welded slab sided KV-1 look.
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Well the Kv1 was top notch for early war fights. The tank ace Herman Bix had a experiance with a KV1 at 30 meters out, 12 of his panzer 3 rounds bounced off the Kv1, finaly they diabled the tank by knocking out its barrel. The KV1 was very effective in the early war tank battles, I think this would be a great addition to the Early War tank set.
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Well the Kv1 was top notch for early war fights. The tank ace Herman Bix had a experiance with a KV1 at 30 meters out, 12 of his panzer 3 rounds bounced off the Kv1, finaly they diabled the tank by knocking out its barrel. The KV1 was very effective in the early war tank battles, I think this would be a great addition to the Early War tank set.
Yes, it was pretty much invincible until '42 when Germans started fielding more powerful guns in their tanks.
It's also worth noting that the Soviet army wasn't really all that happy with the KV-1. It was so slow that more often than not, the T-34 and troops often arrived at the battle before the KV-1 tanks, which were intended to spearhead the attack while the medium tanks like the T-34 would then come in and exploit the holes the KV-1 punched through. They were also so heavy that they would often break the small bridges they had to cross to reach the battle lines. A lot of KV-1 were also not lost due to battle in the early years but because the inexperienced and under trained crews would often abandon the tank when they'd get hit although the rounds never penetrated the armor. Finally, the crews had to be handed picked to man the KV-1.
I don't know if we could add such a beast to the early war set. It would be untouchable, nothing in the early war tank set would be able to penetrate its armor. It would even dominate the other arenas as well because a lot of the problems that plagued the KV-1 aren't going to bother it in the game.
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even thoo the comet saw little action it did :D thoo I think it would b a even up for a tigger dont know about the fire rate thoo think its bout the same 3 man but I really dont know much anyhow :salute
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even thoo the comet saw little action it did :D thoo I think it would b a even up for a tigger dont know about the fire rate thoo think its bout the same 3 man but I really dont know much anyhow :salute
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even thoo the comet saw little action it did :D thoo I think it would b a even up for a tigger dont know about the fire rate thoo think its bout the same 3 man but I really dont know much anyhow :salute
My God.
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even thoo the comet saw little action it did :D thoo I think it would b a even up for a tigger dont know about the fire rate thoo think its bout the same 3 man but I really dont know much anyhow :salute
I think Tigger's Donkey Punch could take out a KV-1 with one shot but at close range.
(http://www.piscitella.com/Tigger/pictures/static/pooh_tigger_catching_bee.jpg)
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I think Tigger's Donkey Punch could take out a KV-1 with one shot but at close range.
(http://www.piscitella.com/Tigger/pictures/static/pooh_tigger_catching_bee.jpg)
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ROTFLMMFAO! Where do you live in Cali? I'm out in the Sacramento Area from Nov.22nd - Nov. 29th. We have got to meet up.
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ROTFLMMFAO! Where do you live in Cali? I'm out in the Sacramento Area from Nov.22nd - Nov. 29th. We have got to meet up.
I live in Southern California, El Segundo be to exact. If you ever find yourself south in my neck of the woods, by all means the rounds are on me :aok
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