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Title: Which plane do you prefer to be ganged in?
Post by: TwentyFo on July 07, 2008, 06:33:15 PM
Lately I've been involved in a lot of gangbangs. They are hella fun as long as it's no more than 3 planes.

I have found a few planes that are easier to survive for me in a gang bang. Two off of the top of my head are the p38J or the Hurri C. The 38 can get slow and still perform well in the vertical. The Hurri C, which is my favorite, has amazing guns and can turn on a dime. My favorite manuever in a hurri C is forcing the overshoot and getting the 'bandit' as he/she climbs up to perch.

Anyways.....Tell me what planes you guys prefer to get gangbanged in?
Title: Re: Which plane do you prefer to be ganged in?
Post by: saantana on July 07, 2008, 06:37:34 PM
Lately I've been involved in a lot of gangbangs. They are hella fun as long as it's no more than 3 planes.

I have found a few planes that are easier to survive for me in a gang bang. Two off of the top of my head are the p38J or the Hurri C. The 38 can get slow and still perform well in the vertical. The Hurri C, which is my favorite, has amazing guns and can turn on a dime. My favorite manuever in a hurri C is forcing the overshoot and getting the 'bandit' as he/she climbs up to perch.

Anyways.....Tell me what planes you guys prefer to get gangbanged in?

I don't like getting gangbanged
Title: Re: Which plane do you prefer to be ganged in?
Post by: DaveJ on July 07, 2008, 06:39:16 PM
I don't like getting gangbanged

I agree  :noid :noid
Title: Re: Which plane do you prefer to be ganged in?
Post by: whiteman on July 07, 2008, 06:39:27 PM
I'll fly into a disaster in a A6M and survive long enough to kill a few people before i turn into Halley's Comet. Besides that F4U-1A or F6F-5 as long as i have some speed to work with.
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Post by: Motherland on July 07, 2008, 06:39:52 PM
109G2.
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Post by: Redlegs on July 07, 2008, 06:46:32 PM
A6M5 or Hurr2c if I know it's hopeless.
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Post by: halo342 on July 07, 2008, 06:48:44 PM
anything that will fall apart on me after a few good bursts.

because i know that when i get ganged, there is no hope of surviving
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Post by: SteveBailey on July 07, 2008, 06:49:22 PM
I fly for whichever team has the lowest numbers.  Getting ganged is normal for me( I put myself there, it's my fault). I fly the D stang which isn't really good at much.Ya it's pretty fast but several are as fast or faster.  Other than speed and views, the pony is very average and not a good plane to fight the hordes in. Naturally, I die a lot.   :aok
Title: Re: Which plane do you prefer to be ganged in?
Post by: TwentyFo on July 07, 2008, 06:51:56 PM
For me there is no better feeling than getting jumped by 2 cons and being able to shoot them down.
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Post by: Motherland on July 07, 2008, 06:54:48 PM
For me there is no better feeling than getting jumped by 2 cons and being able to shoot them down.
That's not really a gangbang... gangbang is 3v1+ IMO...
Title: Re: Which plane do you prefer to be ganged in?
Post by: Guppy35 on July 07, 2008, 07:12:05 PM
Nothing better to get mugged in then the 38G. Lots of ammo and can hang in there low and slow for a while.
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Post by: bongaroo on July 07, 2008, 07:16:59 PM
P38J with 100% fuel.  Getting just one while being ganged is an awesome feeling.
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Post by: Wingnutt on July 07, 2008, 07:22:08 PM
a Jug, decent chance ill still be flying after they run out of bullets.
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Post by: Husky01 on July 07, 2008, 07:22:18 PM
P47D11
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Post by: Banshee7 on July 07, 2008, 07:46:43 PM
i used to love the 38L but now I'm leaning toward the J
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Post by: mipoikel on July 07, 2008, 07:49:41 PM
Goon.
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Post by: stodd on July 07, 2008, 07:52:59 PM
Goon.
:lol
Il2
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Post by: Ack-Ack on July 07, 2008, 07:56:23 PM
i used to love the 38L but now I'm leaning toward the J

Never understood those comments.  If you can't win a fight in the L, what makes you think you'll win one in the J?  Whatever you can do in the J, you can do in the L and expect the same results.

I'm not saying it's the case with you but I know a lot of the more experienced P-38 drivers fly the J, so other players will assume that the J is the uber of the 3 P-38s and gravitate towards the J.  Once they get experience they'll realize that there is no real performance difference between the J and the L in this game other than the L tends to fly more crisply and is more responsive in control over the J.  YMMV.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Which plane do you prefer to be ganged in?
Post by: OSU on July 07, 2008, 07:58:28 PM
I don't like getting gangbanged
Same with me. But if I had to choose, it would be the P47D40.
Title: Re: Which plane do you prefer to be ganged in?
Post by: Baitman on July 07, 2008, 08:17:00 PM
I prefer the A6m5 but it can turn it into a flame show quick. The Hurri can turn very well too but I have been able to stay alive the longest in a F6F. It can soak up quite the punishment and still RTB. :lol
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Post by: betty on July 07, 2008, 08:21:26 PM
typhoon baby! woooooooooot! and i dont gang unless i'm getting jumped. normally i have a wingman close by but needless to say...i luv to furball in my tiff :)
Title: Re: Which plane do you prefer to be ganged in?
Post by: pluck on July 07, 2008, 08:25:07 PM
P38J with 100% fuel.  Getting just one while being ganged is an awesome feeling.

I see your fully fueled 38 and raise you 2 eggs!
Title: Re: Which plane do you prefer to be ganged in?
Post by: Roundeye on July 07, 2008, 08:26:08 PM
A6M is fun that way.  I've done this a few times:  Take them to the deck, drop flaps and slow to a crawl while jinking to avoid bad hits, some persuers will slow to try to aviod an overshoot.  Then when you finally get it slowed down to about 90, lay 'er over in a hard turn.  They get fixated and try to turn with you and tipstall.  Listen for the explosions under you and start racking up the proxies. :D  Its the ones that are smart enough to blast by you and climb for another go that will get you but you can usually take some suckers with you. ;)
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Post by: killnu on July 07, 2008, 09:12:31 PM
109K4...I do die alot though...so maybe I should pick something else.
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Post by: Banshee7 on July 07, 2008, 09:23:59 PM
Never understood those comments.  If you can't win a fight in the L, what makes you think you'll win one in the J?  Whatever you can do in the J, you can do in the L and expect the same results.

I'm not saying it's the case with you but I know a lot of the more experienced P-38 drivers fly the J, so other players will assume that the J is the uber of the 3 P-38s and gravitate towards the J.  Once they get experience they'll realize that there is no real performance difference between the J and the L in this game other than the L tends to fly more crisply and is more responsive in control over the J.  YMMV.


ack-ack

for me i can feel a small difference in the J and the L. What i used to like was the dive flap on the L to sustain a dive after runners.  Personally It's just kind of a comfort thing.  IDK what it is really  :lol
Title: Re: Which plane do you prefer to be ganged in?
Post by: DaveJ on July 07, 2008, 09:29:14 PM
for me i can feel a small difference in the J and the L. What i used to like was the dive flap on the L to sustain a dive after runners.  Personally It's just kind of a comfort thing.  IDK what it is really  :lol

I like the L better because of the dive flaps. The J feels very suspect in a dive without them.
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Post by: Sunka on July 07, 2008, 10:55:47 PM
I know its considered an uber plane but its great for getting ganged, my vote is the n1k2-j  :D
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Post by: Wingnutt on July 07, 2008, 11:57:34 PM
(http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p242/weaponx666_photo/l_97ff33c25cf2c48d083df525ad7520e4.jpg)
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Post by: toadkill on July 08, 2008, 12:00:30 AM
Ki-67, And I'd like the cons to linger above my plane, also I'd like them too be in 262s and make 40 Degree diving passes from the rear.

That Allways ends well* for them  :rofl












*BAD
Title: Re: Which plane do you prefer to be ganged in?
Post by: CAP1 on July 08, 2008, 12:42:42 AM
Lately I've been involved in a lot of gangbangs. They are hella fun as long as it's no more than 3 planes.

I have found a few planes that are easier to survive for me in a gang bang. Two off of the top of my head are the p38J or the Hurri C. The 38 can get slow and still perform well in the vertical. The Hurri C, which is my favorite, has amazing guns and can turn on a dime. My favorite manuever in a hurri C is forcing the overshoot and getting the 'bandit' as he/she climbs up to perch.

Anyways.....Tell me what planes you guys prefer to get gangbanged in?

a b24, there's plenty of room for all the hot chicks waiting for their turn to get at me :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Which plane do you prefer to be ganged in?
Post by: BaldEagl on July 08, 2008, 12:49:10 AM
Sixteen.  What else?  I get myself in all kinds of trouble in the Spit XVI.

4+ cons is where you start getting ganged.  Before that it's just a challenge.
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Post by: Pannono on July 08, 2008, 01:07:18 AM
Ki-67, And I'd like the cons to linger above my plane, also I'd like them too be in 262s and make 40 Degree diving passes from the rear.

That Allways ends well* for them  :rofl

top 20mm ftw  :rock
Title: Re: Which plane do you prefer to be ganged in?
Post by: angelsandair on July 08, 2008, 01:09:31 AM
Lately I've been involved in a lot of gangbangs. They are hella fun as long as it's no more than 3 planes.

I have found a few planes that are easier to survive for me in a gang bang. Two off of the top of my head are the p38J or the Hurri C. The 38 can get slow and still perform well in the vertical. The Hurri C, which is my favorite, has amazing guns and can turn on a dime. My favorite manuever in a hurri C is forcing the overshoot and getting the 'bandit' as he/she climbs up to perch.

Anyways.....Tell me what planes you guys prefer to get gangbanged in?

P-51D. It is suprisingly maneuverable with the stall limiter off. I can usually bring them in a reverse with it. And if things get too hectic and I absolutely have to, I can run. I think I got a great vid of me in my P-51 getting ganged by a P-51D and a P-51B. I kilt one of em really quick and the other ran.  :lol
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Post by: redman555 on July 08, 2008, 01:14:52 AM
hurri = dweed plane... = /

- BigBOBCH
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Post by: ColKLink on July 08, 2008, 02:29:17 AM
FM-2,- 50 mph  - 10 ft off the deck, full flaps, full throttle, full shorts too. :uhoh
Title: Re: Which plane do you prefer to be ganged in?
Post by: Gixer on July 08, 2008, 02:54:54 AM
Yak T of course  :D

It can take a few hits and still stay in the fight, is a small target to start with that can be made even smaller, if you can force an overshoot and quick enough to catch them at close range you can make them pay for their mistake with a single hit from the 37mm which is most rewarding even if you only tag one of em. :t

Of course once it gets too slow to maneuver and unable to regain sufficient energy you just become a very easy target.

Though it never ceases to amaze me that when you already have three attacking you that a fourth,fifth,sixth seem to find it necessary to join in as well at times. When that happens I generally take it as a credit to my ability rather then theirs and I always try and bag one of them.  :D


Of course if I was to try the gang attack in Easy Mode by far the plane of choice would be an La7, C-Hog or Dweeb16.


<S>...-Gixer
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Post by: Delirium on July 08, 2008, 03:25:09 AM
The P38, its a huge bird that is difficult to make dance in a gang fest but I would fly none other.
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Post by: SD67 on July 08, 2008, 04:06:38 AM
Yak9T
Title: Re: Which plane do you prefer to be ganged in?
Post by: Greebo on July 08, 2008, 05:41:37 AM
One versus many is often the only fun fight available in the MA as so many players fly so timid/smart (delete to taste). Its fun to watch the mentality of opponents switch from fear to greed as they gain a numbers edge. This can sometimes be their undoing....  :t

The F6F-5 is a great plane in this sort of fight. It is heavy but has the most wing area of any single engined fighter, plus great flaps. It can crank its nose round surprisingly quickly and is often underestimated by Spits and other turnfighters.

As others have said the trick in this sort of fight is to force overshoots. The flaps and excellent rudder slow the Hellcat up quickly and it can maintain control at very low speeds where other fighters are spinning out. You can often sucker one or two guys into a scissors fight while avoiding the faster opponents.

You need to take any deflection shot you get when outnumbered, a straight six shot makes you too much of a target. Luckily the Hellcat has a great view over the nose if you raise the seat position and very accurate guns with lots of ammo.

You are likely to take damage in this sort of fight but the Hellcat is tough enough to absorb a lot of punishment.
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Post by: crockett on July 08, 2008, 06:28:25 AM
109 K4
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Post by: Shane on July 08, 2008, 07:37:00 AM
Hmmm tough question...  i've been ganged by castrati in a wide variety of planes vs a wide variety of planes.

LA7... cuz I'm gonna run down that last banger!!
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Post by: SpazMan on July 08, 2008, 07:45:31 AM
B-24 of course it has more room...... :lol
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Post by: Tr0jan on July 08, 2008, 07:48:53 AM
C-47A !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FTWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW  :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

 :noid
Title: Re: Which plane do you prefer to be ganged in?
Post by: SD67 on July 08, 2008, 08:01:29 AM
Hmmm tough question...  i've been ganged by castrati in a wide variety of planes vs a wide variety of planes.

LA7... cuz I'm gonna run down that last banger!!
Sooooo
When you comin' back to put that into practice?
Title: Re: Which plane do you prefer to be ganged in?
Post by: Xasthur on July 08, 2008, 08:07:34 AM
For me there is no better feeling than getting jumped by 2 cons and being able to shoot them down.

Yeah, I've started flying into 3+ enemy con situations just so I can see if I can fight my way out and win.

My preferred ride for this sort of mischief is the Bf 109 K4. It's rocket climb and 'hang-on-its-prop' ability combined with a good set of flaps gives you a fighting chance of evading one con while lining up a shot on a second.

Worst case scenario, the speed and climb gives it the ability to escape should you find yourself in an impossible position so you can split the pack up and pick them off 1 by 1 if necessary.
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Post by: bongaroo on July 08, 2008, 09:33:56 AM
Never understood those comments.  If you can't win a fight in the L, what makes you think you'll win one in the J?  Whatever you can do in the J, you can do in the L and expect the same results.

I'm not saying it's the case with you but I know a lot of the more experienced P-38 drivers fly the J, so other players will assume that the J is the uber of the 3 P-38s and gravitate towards the J.  Once they get experience they'll realize that there is no real performance difference between the J and the L in this game other than the L tends to fly more crisply and is more responsive in control over the J.  YMMV.


ack-ack

I fly the J for the better skins IMO.  The naked one with the blue striping across is awesome.
Title: Re: Which plane do you prefer to be ganged in?
Post by: DaveJ on July 08, 2008, 09:46:40 AM
I fly the J for the better skins IMO.  The naked one with the blue striping across is awesome.

The L with the all black across the front by Oboe is fantastic, it's the one I use. Can't remember what the official name is, sorry.
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Post by: Xasthur on July 08, 2008, 10:02:19 AM
The green 38s are the only ones I'll use.

Lack of camo is just lazy. Bloody yanks  :lol  :aok
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Post by: ink on July 08, 2008, 10:04:10 AM
someone said 2 on 1 or 3 on 1 is a gang  :lol :lol :lol

the other night i had no less than 20, trying to kill me. at least 7 were shooting at one time.

if there is less than 4 its not a gang, sometimes even that isn't all that hard to over come, it depends on who is in the "GANG"

but to answer the original poster
of course it would be the Hurri2c
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Post by: BnZ on July 08, 2008, 10:06:04 AM
The Ostwind
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Post by: SlapShot on July 08, 2008, 10:06:44 AM
FM2
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Post by: BoilerDown on July 08, 2008, 10:15:12 AM
When fighter hangers are down, instead of just leaving for another dar bar, I've discovered its fun to up an A20 and unleash the firehose.
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Post by: Adonai on July 08, 2008, 10:52:07 AM
I always get ganged in a 109g2/g6 - prefer to get ganged in a 109k4 so I can use my engine power to get me out of it.
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Post by: Xasthur on July 08, 2008, 11:21:32 AM
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i253/plague_06/Aces%20High/109K4Fun1.jpg)

 :lol
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Post by: DaveJ on July 08, 2008, 11:23:35 AM
I tried to get them off you. :rofl :rofl
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Post by: 5PointOh on July 08, 2008, 11:26:16 AM
I fly for whichever team has the lowest numbers.  Getting ganged is normal for me( I put myself there, it's my fault). I fly the D stang which isn't really good at much.Ya it's pretty fast but several are as fast or faster.  Other than speed and views, the pony is very average and not a good plane to fight the hordes in. Naturally, I die a lot.   :aok
Right there with you Steve, I fly the 51 or the P-40.  I think theres a target on both planes that only that other countries can see. As of late the 51 and the 40 have been Niki magnets. :confused: :cry
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Post by: Bucky73 on July 08, 2008, 11:38:31 AM
INK....I agree Hurri2C for me also :aok
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Post by: uptown on July 08, 2008, 12:17:30 PM
B5N  :D
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Post by: Anaxogoras on July 08, 2008, 12:19:20 PM
109F-4 because I just might win. :aok
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Post by: Guppy35 on July 08, 2008, 12:25:44 PM
The L with the all black across the front by Oboe is fantastic, it's the one I use. Can't remember what the official name is, sorry.

George Laven's 49th FG "Itsy Bitsy II"
Title: Re: Which plane do you prefer to be ganged in?
Post by: FX1 on July 08, 2008, 02:35:51 PM
Spit 16 for off the runway and ready to fight. The last plane i would be in is a 38. To this day a 38 is just a big target to me unless you have alt and E.
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Post by: Yenny on July 08, 2008, 07:44:26 PM
Hurricane for getting gang bang.
Title: Re: Which plane do you prefer to be ganged in?
Post by: BluKitty on July 08, 2008, 09:53:22 PM
Hell, I don't ever consider 3 on 1 a real gang-bang.(I don't consider cons in a fight if they aren't attacking me actively, with equal or better E; these experiences were all within D-2k, and heading at me guns hot, unless I put them off angle)

Well I've I won 1 on 7 in an la7 ... speed was kept relatively high, started at like 7k, killed 6... sent a tempest running hurt. 

But then I've been low on the deck many times, with 5-6  cons close on me in a p47, and blasted em all in the end.  There are less options there though, so the victory was harder won than with the la7.

Or I've handled similar swarms in a spit, but you can move a spit in ways that can force the fight to be 2-3 on you at once...instead of 4-5, due to it's maneuverability.

Well my end point is, if you know how to fly, you probably have a favorite, in a particular style.  I consider these three planes some of the best all around for their style.  I'd mention the F4u and 109, but both aren't such great swarm killers IMHO, but against more reasonable odds, they are phenomenal. 

All things being equal.  Spit is the best pure defensive plane I think, but that is not all that matters, even with a horde on you.  So I can't limit it to one plane honestly.

The question for me is... do I want to out-think them, or out-fly them?  Not that they are mutually exclusive.  For instance, in the la7 fight I recalled that I used what I assumed would be an expectation of an la7 to run, against the horde.  I'd set angles that made it look like I was trying to extend out of the fight, right before a quick overshoot maneuver.  You can imagine the surprise.  In the end though, the la7 is my least favorite choice.  It can work well though.

Complex question "favorite".  I'd venture to say most experienced folks don't have a single favorite, but many.
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Post by: Overlag on July 08, 2008, 09:57:18 PM
la7 so i can run away


(95% of LW population anyway.....)
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Post by: Platano on July 08, 2008, 11:59:57 PM
Blukitty's post speaks the truth.
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Post by: ian5440 on July 09, 2008, 12:48:50 AM
I seem to survive very long in a gangband(3v1) in the F6F, mainly because people do not realize how good of a turner the f6f is w/ its flaps

the f6f is always underestimated and thats why its the only fighter i can consistantly get kills in  :D
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Post by: SD67 on July 09, 2008, 02:37:36 AM
This one time at gangband camp....
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Post by: Squire on July 09, 2008, 03:32:53 AM
I was touched innapropriately in a Spitfire once.
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Post by: SD67 on July 09, 2008, 05:05:50 AM
With a flute?
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Post by: evenhaim on July 09, 2008, 11:29:41 AM
109g14, heavy plane + taters..mmm

tru dat blu
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Post by: Xasthur on July 09, 2008, 12:26:56 PM
The L with the all black across the front by Oboe is fantastic, it's the one I use. Can't remember what the official name is, sorry.

The paint job on this one is so bloody ridiculous I might just give it a bash next time.  :lol

(In reference to the actual aircraft's paint job, not the skin.)

(http://www.netaces.org/skins/p38j/skin11.jpg)
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Post by: Sunka on July 09, 2008, 01:31:35 PM
I was touched innapropriately in a Spitfire once.
    Lmao yea i heard spitfires can be worse then a catholic priest :pray