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Title: Fore!
Post by: ODBAL on July 09, 2008, 12:00:46 PM
Just curious how many golfers are out there?  If so, what is your handicap and what kind of clubs do you play?
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Post by: Ripsnort on July 09, 2008, 12:07:06 PM
Just curious how many golfers are out there?  If so, what is your handicap and what kind of clubs do you play?
I just recently started playing again after a 12 year lay-off. Although I never established a handicap at any given golf course, I USED TO shoot about 14 over par on a 72 par golf course.

3 weeks ago, after 12 years of non-playing, I shot a 117 (18 holes) :(  I put away my drivers and shot a respectable 100 the following week (18 holes).  Last Monday I played 9 holes and shot a 39 so its coming around again.  I'm playing Orlimar clubs.
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Post by: DiabloTX on July 09, 2008, 12:08:22 PM
I have a cousin that was a scratch golfer while he was in high school.  Why he never tried to get a PGA tour card I'll never know.

I used to play about 10 years ago and had my cousin make me a set of custom clubs (he owned a golf shop at that time).  I do miss playing though.
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Post by: Curval on July 09, 2008, 12:09:59 PM
I have a 24 handicap...which is AWESOME when playing in *best ball* tournaments.

My club is here:

http://www.tuckerspoint.com/

I play with a set of Cobras.

Here is a video of my golf swing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW0uzDRwpAo

ANything else you need?

;)
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Post by: Ripsnort on July 09, 2008, 12:13:11 PM
I have a 24 handicap...which is AWESOME when playing in *best ball* tournaments.

My club is here:

http://www.tuckerspoint.com/

I play with a set of Cobras.

Here is a video of my golf swing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW0uzDRwpAo

ANything else you need?

;)

Heh, my golf partner and I have been discussing bringing a camera and video taping our swings for analysis.  nice course there Curval.

My oldest boy just got a new set of Ben Hogan's (used, new to him) and he's started playing with us. He shot a 127 his first time out, not bad at all for 12 years old. Wife plays too.
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Post by: ODBAL on July 09, 2008, 12:15:00 PM
I have a 24 handicap...which is AWESOME when playing in *best ball* tournaments.

My club is here:

http://www.tuckerspoint.com/

I play with a set of Cobras.

Here is a video of my golf swing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW0uzDRwpAo

ANything else you need?

;)

Just a Urine sample and I think we should be finished  :aok
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Post by: Ripsnort on July 09, 2008, 12:16:47 PM
Just a Urine sample and I think we should be finished  :aok
LOL! and a sperm sample, blood sample and stool sample....hell just give us your underwear Curval! :D

Odbal, whats your handicap and club type?
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Post by: ODBAL on July 09, 2008, 12:20:15 PM
I just recently started playing again after a 12 year lay-off. Although I never established a handicap at any given golf course, I USED TO shoot about 14 over par on a 72 par golf course.

3 weeks ago, after 12 years of non-playing, I shot a 117 (18 holes) :(  I put away my drivers and shot a respectable 100 the following week (18 holes).  Last Monday I played 9 holes and shot a 39 so its coming around again.  I'm playing Orlimar clubs.

Ripsnort, I took the game up again last year, after a similar length layoff.  When I quit the first time I had my handicap down to 12.  Now I am sitting about 15.  I am lucky to live in Utah where we have great public courses that are priced reasonably.  Most courses are $40 or less for 18 and a cart.  From what I have been told we have some of the best maintained "muni's" in the country.  Plus at this altitude that ball flies nice and far.  Last fall when I took it up again I bought all new gear.  Playing Taylormade R7 Superquad Driver, R7TP Irons, TP Wedges, and just bought the TM Rossa Monza Spider Putter, which is awkward at first, once you get used to it though it is fantastic!
Title: Re: Fore!
Post by: ODBAL on July 09, 2008, 12:21:57 PM
LOL! and a sperm sample, blood sample and stool sample....hell just give us your underwear Curval! :D

Odbal, whats your handicap and club type?

Yes, the underwear will work, leave out the explenation of where the blood came from please  :eek:
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Post by: Ripsnort on July 09, 2008, 12:28:41 PM
Ripsnort, I took the game up again last year, after a similar length layoff.  When I quit the first time I had my handicap down to 12.  Now I am sitting about 15.  I am lucky to live in Utah where we have great public courses that are priced reasonably.  Most courses are $40 or less for 18 and a cart.  From what I have been told we have some of the best maintained "muni's" in the country.  Plus at this altitude that ball flies nice and far.  Last fall when I took it up again I bought all new gear.  Playing Taylormade R7 Superquad Driver, R7TP Irons, TP Wedges, and just bought the TM Rossa Monza Spider Putter, which is awkward at first, once you get used to it though it is fantastic!
Verry good!  Our public courses are between $38 and $44 near us. Very "green" needless to say with as much rain as we get.  An umbrella is part of our tool set in the Pacific Northwest.
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Post by: Curval on July 09, 2008, 01:46:11 PM
What are these pu...pub....publ...public courses you mention?

;)
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Post by: ODBAL on July 09, 2008, 02:06:51 PM
What are these pu...pub....publ...public courses you mention?

;)

You know those people you see on the "other" side of the gates in your neighborhood?  It's a place where "they" play golf. I have heard horror stories about these "types" having to actually carry and clean their own clubs, figure out their own yardage, and replace their own divots! Animals!
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Post by: Ripsnort on July 09, 2008, 02:58:01 PM
You know those people you see on the "other" side of the gates in your neighborhood?  It's a place where "they" play golf. I have heard horror stories about these "types" having to actually carry and clean their own clubs, figure out their own yardage, and replace their own divots! Animals!
Yes, and most don't drink tea, or drive their OWN golf carts, they RENT them!  :O
Title: Re: Fore!
Post by: Curval on July 09, 2008, 03:09:43 PM
You know those people you see on the "other" side of the gates in your neighborhood?  It's a place where "they" play golf. I have heard horror stories about these "types" having to actually carry and clean their own clubs, figure out their own yardage, and replace their own divots! Animals!

OMG...the HORROR!!!!!

That's not golf...it's work.

:)
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Post by: DYNAMITE on July 09, 2008, 03:19:15 PM
What are these pu...pub....publ...public courses you mention?

;)

I was playing golf at Hanes Point, a public course in D.C.  The 7th hole on the red course  runs right along the park road... From the tee box i had a beautiful view of the Washington Monument and i kid you not... a drug bust... all while i was teeing off.  Hahahahha... i love D.C.  :devil

I love golf... I usually shoot in the 80's or low 90's for a round of 18.  I play with Cobra SS driver and SZ woods  and Taylor Made super steel irons
(http://www.clubscouter.com/clubs/76948.jpg)

I love my clubs... i just wish i could play up to their capability.  
Title: Re: Fore!
Post by: Ripsnort on July 09, 2008, 03:23:09 PM
For those of you who wish to improve their game:
http://www.videojug.com/film/how-to-perform-the-perfect-golf-swing
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Post by: RedTop on July 09, 2008, 04:37:29 PM
I play and practice everyday. I currently am scratch.
I play here www.starranchgolf.com

 My swing is ....

http://s46.photobucket.com/albums/f125/RedTop1/?action=view&current=MOV00602.flv

I play Callaway X-Tour Irons 5 - W Project X Shafts 5.5 1/2 inch long
Nickent Hybrids 17 Proforce V2 Stiff , 21 Proforce V2 Stiff , 24 Nippon steel stiff
Cleveland RTG DSG Wedges 52 , 56 degree
Ping G10 Driver TFC 129 Stiff Shaft 9 degree
Cleveland Launcher 3 wood 13 degree Fujikura Stiff
Rife 2 Bar Hybrid putter / Scotty Cameron Newport Miid Slant putter (depending on whats being nice)
Titleist Prov1x golfballs
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Post by: ODBAL on July 09, 2008, 05:27:01 PM
Very nice RedTop! I amazed by people who can play scratch golf.  It is an accomplishment that takes so much skill and mental fortitude.  :aok
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Post by: RedTop on July 09, 2008, 05:47:13 PM
Very nice RedTop! I amazed by people who can play scratch golf.  It is an accomplishment that takes so much skill and mental fortitude.  :aok

1st of all Thanks :)

I could talk golf for hours....Stang who flies here is my proxy instrctor so to speak. I video my swing and he crtiques (sp) it. He has already made a differance. I love to play and working nights I am able to play everyday as my wife works with the Daywalkers as I call em.  :lol She really pushes me pretty well as well. I would like to when I turn 50 possibly give the Senior tour a try.

I work on all facets of the game and enjoy doing so.

At any rate I won't bore you....Its a great game. Greatest game ever in my opinion as you only have yourself to blame or congradulate. Almost all other sports rely on a team aspect.

Play well...have fun...and good luck with your return to the game. I took 3.5 yars off a few years back. Since then my interest and love of the game is even more now. Plus having a goal helps.

Take care 
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Post by: ODBAL on July 09, 2008, 05:50:37 PM
Talking golf never bores me! It is a fascinating game.  I actually broke 80 for the first time this year too!
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Post by: RedTop on July 09, 2008, 06:11:11 PM
Talking golf never bores me! It is a fascinating game.  I actually broke 80 for the first time this year too!

WTG on breaking 80!!!  It is a fascinating game. A hard one as well. I play with a group often. One of the guys is younger and hits it a MILE past me most of the time. But we usually play within a shot or 2 of one another. We're about even. I admire his length and he calls me S squared. Short and Straight.  :lol Yet I average about 280 off the tee and he averages well over 300. Hell he hits his 2 iron longer than I hit my driver at times.

My length is not stageering.....I'm just real acurate. Yesterday I hit 17 of 18 greens and 14 of 14 fairways. Putted bad and shot even par. Today I hit like 14 greens and 10 fairways and shot 69. Putted bad.

Thats the wonderful thing about this game. Somedays you think your ready to play on the tour...other days you wonder why in the hell you ever got out of bed. You hit it pure as anything on the range and walk to the 1st tee and promptly find that your brain has went on vacation and your swing went with it.  :lol

Practice is really the key IMHO. Litzke is a role modle for alot of golfers. He plays little...pratices little and yet plays pretty well cause he hits it the same way all the time. So if you can gain consistancy then you have a chance to play decent golf.

You'll only get out of golf what you put in it.
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Post by: Stang on July 09, 2008, 06:38:29 PM
Bah, stupid game!

 ;)
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Post by: RedTop on July 09, 2008, 06:52:40 PM
Bah, stupid game!

 ;)

Hacker...Chop :rofl
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Post by: Banshee7 on July 09, 2008, 06:58:51 PM
I play golf.  I usually shoot in the low 80s.  I have shot even par a few times but those were on very good days.  

My clubs

Driver- Original Nike SasQuatch 8 1/2 degree.

3 wood- Original Nike SasQuatch 15 degree
<These two clubs have The SasQuatch shaft Diamana by Mitsubishi Rayon - Stiff flex>

Irons- Just replaced my Nike Slingshot irons with a brand new set of The Nike SQ Sumo irons
<Irons have True Temper Speed Step Super Lite Stiff flex shafts>

Wedges- I have the 60 degree Nike Spin Velocity Wedge <True Temper dynamic Gold Shaft>
I also still have the My first SW for when i really got into golf.  It is a Titleist Vokey Design 54 degree.  True Temper shaft as well.

Putter - The Nike Black Oz T100.

Golf Balls - I usually play with Nike One Platinums, Nike One TW, or Titleist Pro V1x

My dad and i play a few times a week and during the summer we play almost every day.
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Post by: Stang on July 09, 2008, 07:12:37 PM
 :rofl

More like blind man on the greens lately... I keep shooting between 69-73 with over 32 putts every round in Monday events.  Can't find the damn stroke and it's off by such a small bit that I keep barely missing the line and make literally nothing.  

I've really been putting some quality practice time in lately and have been hitting it pretty well, but just haven't had it click in a round yet.  A buncha 2nd and 3rd place finishes this last month that I pissed away the win on the greens... Drives me nuts outplaying everyone tee to green and just not getting it in the damn hole.   I'd rather skank it around like a chump and make everything on the greens than hit it like a champ and putt like a chump.  Grrrrrr.

Anyway what's in my bag...

Nike Sumo 5000 SQ Driver, 8.5 deg Graffaly Epic 68g X-felx
Nike Sumo SQ 3 and 5 woods, Diamana 83g X-flex shafts
Nike Forged Blades 3-PW X-100 Dynamic Gold Shafts +1/2 inch
Nike SV Tour 54 and 60 Degree Wedges, X-100 shafts +1/2 inch
Scotty Cameron Newport Milled 35 inches.
Nike One Platinum or Black golf ball, depending on conditions.

Yes I am a Nike potato, but because they give it to me.

 :D
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Post by: Golfer on July 09, 2008, 07:18:02 PM
Golf is for sissies who wear funny pants.

I was on a 4 year hiatus and am back into the swing so to speak.  I don't have a club affiliation at the moment with the GHIN system but if I had to say my handicap is around 6 at this time.  I figure I'll blame the extra strokes on a few extra pounds...both of which I'm in the process of shedding  ;)

I haven't broken par since I've been playing again but my best score is +2.  I just played 2 rounds on the Ford Plantation's course (Ogeechee Golf Club) near Savannah last week.  Put up an 82 thanks to an honest 11 on a Par 5.  Next day I fumbled a 43-36 thanks to a turkey of doubles on the front side.

My golf bag is a time capsule...

Callaway Great Big Bertha 8º
Titleist 975F 14º Fairway wood.
Callaway Heaven Wood (7 wood)
Titleist 962 3-P
Titleist Vokey 52º Gap Wedge
Titleist Vokey 56º Sand Wedge
Cleveland 60º wedge
Odyssey White Hot #1 putter

All this stuff is put into one of the earliest Ping Hoofer bags.  It was top of the line in 2000.  :huh
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Post by: RedTop on July 09, 2008, 07:37:37 PM
Quote
More like blind man on the greens lately... I keep shooting between 69-73 with over 32 putts every round in Monday events.  Can't find the damn stroke and it's off by such a small bit that I keep barely missing the line and make literally nothing.

Man do I feel ya there. Good lord I have hit it with in 10 feet the last 36 holes 12 times. With in 6 feet 4-6 times and 3 feet 4 times.....4 birdies and more lips than a heard of 5.00 hookers on a payday.
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Post by: Ripsnort on July 09, 2008, 07:56:02 PM
My best game was 7 over par (79) on a course that had a slope rating of 140.  I was 160 lbs then too though....

My driver is finally coming around (at least in practice on my neighbors driving range (http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/8668097/320845847.jpg) ..you can barely make out the 75 ft poles and the net, alog with a nice putting green to the left in the pic that he maintains maticulously) and I plan to give the driver a whirl again this Sunday. I can get 200 with my 3 iron so if my driver goes south on me, I always have "old reliable". The best part of my game is the short irons, under 175 yards, and putting. It's the only thing that really SAVES my game actually, I suck on driving. :(

Anyone have an opinion on Maxfli Noodle balls? (Long and soft!)
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Post by: Banshee7 on July 09, 2008, 08:54:56 PM
i can get decent spin out of Noodles. They are a nice hitting ball.
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Post by: RedTop on July 09, 2008, 09:07:37 PM
Noodles are ok I suppose. Couple of guys I used to play with used them. They liked them pretty well , however down here in Texas they don't stop so well. Up there where it rains alot I would imagine that the greens are always fairly receptive. They aren't made to give all that much spin anyway. If your looking for a pretty good low cost ball the Precept Laddie is not bad. My dad (9 hcp) plays with them and really likes them. The new TopFlite D2 isn't bad so Im told and they are like 19.00 a dozen. Bridgestone balls are pretty good and some of them are fairly inexpensive.

What are you trying to get out of a Golf Ball is more the question.?
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Post by: Curval on July 09, 2008, 09:31:11 PM
Someone pulled out my ball from the hole for me not too long ago and kinda snickered with he saw I was playing with a noodle.

True story.

Sounds weird though...lol
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Post by: rabbidrabbit on July 09, 2008, 09:49:42 PM
Someone pulled out my ball from the hole for me not too long ago and kinda snickered with he saw I was playing with a noodle.

True story.

Sounds weird though...lol

Well... thats what you get for playing with your noodle!
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Post by: ClevMan on July 09, 2008, 10:24:13 PM
Currently, I am playing to about a 6, but I plan on getting that down by summer's end...

My setup:

Driver: Nicklaus Dual Point 460, Proforce V2 65g Stiff Flex
Fairway Wood: Tour Edge Exotics 16.5 degree, Grafalloy Blue NT 65g Stiff Flex
Irons: Bridgestone J33 Combo Irons, 3-PW, Project X 5.5 Shafts, +.25" and 3 degrees upright
Wedges: Cleveland 900 Gunmetal 50, 56, 60 (oldies but goodies)
Putter: Acushnet Bullseye (25 years old, but still drops em)
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Post by: ODBAL on July 10, 2008, 08:59:58 AM
Noodles are ok I suppose. Couple of guys I used to play with used them. They liked them pretty well , however down here in Texas they don't stop so well. Up there where it rains alot I would imagine that the greens are always fairly receptive. They aren't made to give all that much spin anyway. If your looking for a pretty good low cost ball the Precept Laddie is not bad. My dad (9 hcp) plays with them and really likes them. The new TopFlite D2 isn't bad so Im told and they are like 19.00 a dozen. Bridgestone balls are pretty good and some of them are fairly inexpensive.

What are you trying to get out of a Golf Ball is more the question.?

I was playing the Precept Laddie for a while, they are not bad.  They were on sale for a ridiculous price up here, something like $29 for 4 dozen new balls.  The D2 feel is not bad, I prefer it to the Top Flite Gamer and the D2 is only $19.00 for 15 balls.  I don't have the money to play Pro V's or the other top balls all the time.  I have found that the Bridgestone E5 is a great ball in the mid price range. 
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Post by: Ripsnort on July 10, 2008, 09:08:35 AM
Someone pulled out my ball from the hole for me not too long ago and kinda snickered with he saw I was playing with a noodle.

True story.

Sounds weird though...lol
It has "Long and soft" text on the side of the ball, I'm sure he was snickering at that! :D
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Post by: Ripsnort on July 10, 2008, 09:09:47 AM
What are you trying to get out of a Golf Ball is more the question.?
I have no clue. I'm no where good enough to even understand what I need to get out of a golf ball. I have more serious problems (like my driving) but thought that maybe there was some sort of advantage to different golf balls?
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Post by: midnight Target on July 10, 2008, 09:32:00 AM
My handicap is my driver....any iron with a number on it... and usually my putter.
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Post by: ODBAL on July 10, 2008, 09:35:51 AM

My golf bag is a time capsule...

Callaway Great Big Bertha 8º
Titleist 975F 14º Fairway wood.
Callaway Heaven Wood (7 wood)
Titleist 962 3-P
Titleist Vokey 52º Gap Wedge
Titleist Vokey 56º Sand Wedge
Cleveland 60º wedge
Odyssey White Hot #1 putter

All this stuff is put into one of the earliest Ping Hoofer bags.  It was top of the line in 2000.  :huh

Golfer, I admire someone who sticks with his equipment!  Check this out, my buddy from work who golfs with me changes clubs every 2 weeks almost.  It is a joke.  I'm no scratch golfer, and this guy is worse than me (probably an 18-20 handi).  Which is fine, as long as you enjoy the game.  But he think's its all in the clubs. As I spend 3-5 nights at the driving range he spends the same amount of time at Golf Galaxy.  A total victim of Golf marketing.  So, starting last year in June, here is an honest progression of his clubs.  First, he changed drivers every couple of weeks.
Calloway FT-5 to Titleist (not sure of model). Re-shafted Titleist. Titleist to Ping Rapture. Re-shafted Rapture. Rapture to TM Superquad. Superquad to Cleveland Hibore XLS.  Re-shaft Hibore twice. Hibore to Ping G10..... Keeping in mind, during this time he would trade in various hybrid clubs, along with his "old" driver on the new drivers.  Then he decided his irons were his problem. He had been playing with Calloway X-20 Tours for a year, then in the course of 2 months he went X-20 Tour to Ping G5 (hit G5's on the range once) G5's to Mizuno MP30. MP30 to MP57's. MP57's to Cobra FP's.  During those 2 months he also went from his G10 driver to Calloway FT-I, then FT-I back to Ping Rapture.

As far as I know, he still has the Cobra FP's and Rapture.  I haven't played with him for about a month, I think he got mad at me when I told him he was stupid.  That his swing was his problem not his clubs and that if they did ever make a club that hit it pure and straight every time he couldn't afford it anyway.
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Post by: ODBAL on July 10, 2008, 09:40:47 AM
I have no clue. I'm no where good enough to even understand what I need to get out of a golf ball. I have more serious problems (like my driving) but thought that maybe there was some sort of advantage to different golf balls?

Ripsnort, if you are like me and lose a few every round give the Top Flite D2 Feel a shot. You don't feel so bad when you lose one and it seems to do well, although not great, in all categories. In my opinion the best Top Flite ball made.  If your store has the Precept Laddies on sale for cheap those are not bad either.  I played the Bridgestone B330 for a while, fantastic ball but to expensive at the rate I lose them.
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Post by: Ripsnort on July 10, 2008, 09:57:47 AM
My handicap is my driver....any iron with a number on it... and usually my putter.
So that means you're very good with the ball retriever?  :huh :p
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Post by: Ripsnort on July 10, 2008, 09:58:31 AM
Ripsnort, if you are like me and lose a few every round give the Top Flite D2 Feel a shot. You don't feel so bad when you lose one and it seems to do well, although not great, in all categories. In my opinion the best Top Flite ball made.  If your store has the Precept Laddies on sale for cheap those are not bad either.  I played the Bridgestone B330 for a while, fantastic ball but to expensive at the rate I lose them.

Thanks for the advice on the balls.  Once I get through these 24 Max Fli's I got for my birthday last month, I'll give them a shot. (shouldn't be long! ;) )
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Post by: midnight Target on July 10, 2008, 10:25:53 AM
So that means you're very good with the ball retriever?  :huh :p

Like you said... practice is the key.
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Post by: Ripsnort on July 10, 2008, 11:52:06 AM
Like you said... practice is the key.
:lol
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Post by: RedTop on July 10, 2008, 04:54:10 PM
Golfer, I admire someone who sticks with his equipment!  Check this out, my buddy from work who golfs with me changes clubs every 2 weeks almost.  It is a joke.  I'm no scratch golfer, and this guy is worse than me (probably an 18-20 handi).  Which is fine, as long as you enjoy the game.  But he think's its all in the clubs. As I spend 3-5 nights at the driving range he spends the same amount of time at Golf Galaxy.  A total victim of Golf marketing.  So, starting last year in June, here is an honest progression of his clubs.  First, he changed drivers every couple of weeks.
Calloway FT-5 to Titleist (not sure of model). Re-shafted Titleist. Titleist to Ping Rapture. Re-shafted Rapture. Rapture to TM Superquad. Superquad to Cleveland Hibore XLS.  Re-shaft Hibore twice. Hibore to Ping G10..... Keeping in mind, during this time he would trade in various hybrid clubs, along with his "old" driver on the new drivers.  Then he decided his irons were his problem. He had been playing with Calloway X-20 Tours for a year, then in the course of 2 months he went X-20 Tour to Ping G5 (hit G5's on the range once) G5's to Mizuno MP30. MP30 to MP57's. MP57's to Cobra FP's.  During those 2 months he also went from his G10 driver to Calloway FT-I, then FT-I back to Ping Rapture.

As far as I know, he still has the Cobra FP's and Rapture.  I haven't played with him for about a month, I think he got mad at me when I told him he was stupid.  That his swing was his problem not his clubs and that if they did ever make a club that hit it pure and straight every time he couldn't afford it anyway.

 :lol I have a bud the same way. I met him in Sept. of last year in a tourney. We have since became golfing buds and play quite often. He has had 4 sets of irons since I have known him and working on his 4th driver. 3rd or 4th 3 wood...3rd or 4th putter. He practices some...but generally just hits some balls before we play and loses his temper by the 3rd hole if he isn't hitting it all that well.

He and I had a bit of an argument the other day....more on my part as what he said got me a bit miffed....and I fired back at him. AT any rate the bottom line was I told him to as much as he could afford to lose out of his savings and I'd see him the next day.

I bought a set of irons from Callaway preowned the first part of this year. I went to a guy that was head of R&D for Callaway for 5 years to get fitted for some shafts. After a couple of hours and lots of balls and testing it came down to the project X or the DG s300's. The PX shafts I hit just a tad further and the ball flight was just a bit more to my liking. So , I decided to have the irons reshafted. It was going to be 450 for the reshafts. They had a set of used irons , the sameas what I had , with the shafts already in them. They were cheaper to but than to have mine redone. So , I bought them. I have 2 sets of irons , both the same heads but differant shafts. Same loft and lie on each iron.

My driver I just got this year as well. But I had my other one , A Taylor R7 425 MWT for about 4 years. Only had it reshafted 1 time during that time and basically thats what led me to buy a new one.  The new shaft they screwed up and made it to tip stiff. ANyway , I bought a Ping G10 and kill it.

I have another bud that makes more money than he knows what to do with that just flat likes to buy stuff. So he is buying stuff all the time and most all the time it ends up in a barrel in his garage.  :lol 

An ole pro told me once.....ANd I to this day tell most everyone that asks me for advice about club buyinig and stuff....this...

All the amatures are looking for the secret , and the pros are looking for a place to practice.
Title: Re: Fore!
Post by: Ripsnort on July 10, 2008, 07:01:25 PM
:lol I have a bud the same way. I met him in Sept. of last year in a tourney. We have since became golfing buds and play quite often. He has had 4 sets of irons since I have known him and working on his 4th driver. 3rd or 4th 3 wood...3rd or 4th putter. He practices some...but generally just hits some balls before we play and loses his temper by the 3rd hole if he isn't hitting it all that well.

He and I had a bit of an argument the other day....more on my part as what he said got me a bit miffed....and I fired back at him. AT any rate the bottom line was I told him to as much as he could afford to lose out of his savings and I'd see him the next day.

I bought a set of irons from Callaway preowned the first part of this year. I went to a guy that was head of R&D for Callaway for 5 years to get fitted for some shafts. After a couple of hours and lots of balls and testing it came down to the project X or the DG s300's. The PX shafts I hit just a tad further and the ball flight was just a bit more to my liking. So , I decided to have the irons reshafted. It was going to be 450 for the reshafts. They had a set of used irons , the sameas what I had , with the shafts already in them. They were cheaper to but than to have mine redone. So , I bought them. I have 2 sets of irons , both the same heads but differant shafts. Same loft and lie on each iron.

My driver I just got this year as well. But I had my other one , A Taylor R7 425 MWT for about 4 years. Only had it reshafted 1 time during that time and basically thats what led me to buy a new one.  The new shaft they screwed up and made it to tip stiff. ANyway , I bought a Ping G10 and kill it.

I have another bud that makes more money than he knows what to do with that just flat likes to buy stuff. So he is buying stuff all the time and most all the time it ends up in a barrel in his garage.  :lol 

An ole pro told me once.....ANd I to this day tell most everyone that asks me for advice about club buyinig and stuff....this...

All the amatures are looking for the secret , and the pros are looking for a place to practice.

All this talk of re-shafting (I thought re-shafting was a sex change operation, but I stand corrected) I have a question:

Do you think that a pro could play close to the same game with a set of noob clubs (like mine, Orlimars)? 

IOW, does the tool make the difference, or is it the talent of the one using the tool?
Title: Re: Fore!
Post by: RedTop on July 10, 2008, 07:18:19 PM
Rip,

Yep! Would it be differant...sure. But it's distance a direction. Once you know how far you hit it...with each club....it then becomes a matter of execution.

By todays standards on the PGA tour.....I hit it short. On the Champions tour....I would be in the top 20 in driving distance average. I keep track of that stuff almost everytime I play. Not just when I'm hitting it good.

Here's a breakdown...maybe this will help...who knows...

Driver - 280 average. I've hit it 350 and 220. Depends on wind...fairway conditions....downhill up hill wet dry...But I average about 280.
3 wood off the tee about 250. Fairway 235 is about all I'll carry it.
2 Hybrid carry 210 max
3 hybrid 195 carry max
4 hybrid 185 carry max
5 iron 175 max carry
6 iron 167 carry max
7 iron 158 carry max
8 iron 147 carry max
9 iron 135 carry max
PW 120 carry max
52* GW 107 carry max
56* SW 92 carry max

All these distances are when I hit it flush and hit it pretty much all I got. My distances are right at the same as Loren Roberts (Champions tour). I am a short hitter by todays standards. But I for the most part hit it real straight. If I have a real go to shot it is a very slight fade.

The Pros can hit it a long ways. Now could they play with some persimmons woods and hit it as long? Nope. Thats why golf Courses are so long now. Not because they just like long courses , its because technology has put distances with clubs (drivers especially ) way out there. When you see a J.B. Holmes or Bubba Watson bomb it out there 353 yards it's because of technology. They could hit a wood Wood far...but not like that. So when people can hit it like that it makes golf courses of the older days....easier. So they say anyway.

Todays game...and mind you this is my opinion only  , on the PGA tour is really almost one dimensional. Hit it FARRRRR and no matter where it goes.....hit it FAR again. Balls go further. They Spin less and carry long. Mind you those guys are great players...but the old days of really working the ball and hitting more shots are gone.   

Tiger is #1 cause he has all the skills. He can hit it long...but chooses to go at it about 85 percent most of the time. He has had to learn that to. When he first came out he just hit everything hard. Now he can make shots and play finess much much better than anyone out there. His distance control is awsome.

They all know how to hit a hook or fade when they wat to...but each have a go to shot that they play pretty much all the time.

Technology has changed the game alot.....but no matter how much technology there is....if you can't do something with some consistancy...and some understanding......then it makes not that much differance.

This is why the average scores now days are the same as they were years and years ago. USGA says that the average is still in the high 90's. I beleive that's right. SO....Practice....is what it takes to get better....and even MORE practice is what it takes to get to the top 5 percent of golfers.....which shoot in the 70's pretty much all the time.

Stang should have some good input here as well...the guy seems to know WAY more than I about Golf.
 
Title: Re: Fore!
Post by: Ripsnort on July 10, 2008, 08:14:37 PM
Great post and I enjoyed reading it, and learned alot. Thanks Redtop!  :rock If you ever make it to the Pacific Northwest, we'll have to tee-it up together.  :aok
Title: Re: Fore!
Post by: Gixer on July 10, 2008, 08:19:19 PM
Only ever played a few dozen rounds of golf in my life. All at St Andrews, and all for free. Much to the dismay of most golfers when I tell them this..   :D

(http://golf.visitscotland.com/repositories/images/headers/384144)


<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: Fore!
Post by: RedTop on July 10, 2008, 08:29:37 PM
Only ever played a few dozen rounds of golf in my life. All at St Andrews, and all for free. Much to the dismay of most golfers when I tell them this..   :D

(http://golf.visitscotland.com/repositories/images/headers/384144)


<S>...-Gixer


Thats even more a reason to shoot you in this game....when I can anyway :cry :cry
Title: Re: Fore!
Post by: Gixer on July 10, 2008, 08:55:50 PM
To explain further in my early 20's I was fortunate to land a job for 6 months working in the Road Hole Bar at the Old Course Hotel. Fun place to work, with a fantastic selection of over 150 single malts. Not to mention the 180deg view of the 17th and the young girls working next door in the main restaurant. 

Win win situation really. Girls + Whisky = never a lonely night.  Rich customers + Whisky = free golf.  :D

St Andrews is fantastic if a little windy at times. And I had a blast during my time in Scotland.

Four!  No one bothers in St Andrews with that call, can't hear a thing over the wind.


<S>...-Gixer


Title: Re: Fore!
Post by: midnight Target on July 10, 2008, 09:01:21 PM
The last time I played I was treated to a round of golf at Oak Quarry in California. One of our 4-some had a great golf story.

He took his 12 year old son to a seniors tourney (I think it was at Torrey Pines). I guess kids line up after the 18th green to get the pros to sign a hat or whatever. His kid calls out to Fuzzy Zoeller, who had a horrible day. Fuzzy walks over to the kid and asks him if he plays golf. The kid says yes. Fuzzy then reaches into his bag, pulls out his whole set of irons and hands them to the kid saying, "maybe these will work better for you".

True story. His kid still uses those clubs.
Title: Re: Fore!
Post by: RedTop on July 10, 2008, 09:12:47 PM
Just thought I'd share my recent hcp scores.....I've played more...but I don't always keep the score so sometimes my playing companions don't turn em in. it only shows 80 rounds posted in GHIN. I know since last September I have played prolly 150-200 rounds.

 Texas Golf Association
The Golf Club at Star Ranch
Hcp. 0.0
Effective 06/20/2008  

Score History

Date Score CR/Slope  Diff.
7/08  66 70.1/117   - 4.0  
7/08  69 70.1/117   - 1.1  
7/08  71 70.1/117     0.9  
7/08  74 70.1/117     3.8  
7/08  68 70.1/117   - 2.0  
6/08  72 70.1/117     1.8  
6/08  70 73.5/130   - 3.0  
6/08  72 70.1/117     1.8  
6/08  66 70.1/117   - 4.0  
6/08  73 70.1/117     2.8  
6/08  72 73.5/130   - 1.3  
6/08  79 72.3/122     6.2  
6/08  69 70.1/117   - 1.1  
6/08  70 73.5/130   - 3.0  
6/08  79 73.5/130     4.8  
6/08  74 70.1/117     3.8  
6/08  72 70.1/117     1.8  
6/08  77 73.5/130     3.0  
6/08  75 70.1/117     4.7  
6/08  71 70.1/117     0.9  

 
Title: Re: Fore!
Post by: RedTop on July 10, 2008, 09:20:06 PM
The last time I played I was treated to a round of golf at Oak Quarry in California. One of our 4-some had a great golf story.

He took his 12 year old son to a seniors tourney (I think it was at Torrey Pines). I guess kids line up after the 18th green to get the pros to sign a hat or whatever. His kid calls out to Fuzzy Zoeller, who had a horrible day. Fuzzy walks over to the kid and asks him if he plays golf. The kid says yes. Fuzzy then reaches into his bag, pulls out his whole set of irons and hands them to the kid saying, "maybe these will work better for you".

True story. His kid still uses those clubs.

WOW.....Cool deal. I know a guy that plays on the Champions tour. Keith Fergus. Anyway they played here in Austin and I went to all the rounds and followed Keith throughout the tourney. The last day I wacthed a bit of O'Mera playing as he was behind Fergus. As players exited the scorers tent there was an area where all the kids could get autographs and stuff. There were several players there signing and stuff. O'mera hadn't played well and when he came out of the tent looked at the line...and stormed off the other direction. I was really suprised. IHe hadn't played all that bad but was really a jerk as he left. People saying hello and stuff and he didn't even say a word. I talked to Keith a while and wacthed as the pros came off and almost ALL of them were very nice and appreciated the fact that so many lil kids and grown ups as well were there to wait for them.

 
Title: Re: Fore!
Post by: ODBAL on July 11, 2008, 12:19:06 AM
The last time I played I was treated to a round of golf at Oak Quarry in California. One of our 4-some had a great golf story.

He took his 12 year old son to a seniors tourney (I think it was at Torrey Pines). I guess kids line up after the 18th green to get the pros to sign a hat or whatever. His kid calls out to Fuzzy Zoeller, who had a horrible day. Fuzzy walks over to the kid and asks him if he plays golf. The kid says yes. Fuzzy then reaches into his bag, pulls out his whole set of irons and hands them to the kid saying, "maybe these will work better for you".

True story. His kid still uses those clubs.

Fantastic story!
Title: Re: Fore!
Post by: ODBAL on July 11, 2008, 12:26:03 AM
A few months back my son finally gave in to my begging that he take up Golf.  He is 16 and has played baseball so he took to it quite well.  First thing I did was got him some lessons, and a good set of clubs (Hibore Driver, Nike CCI Irons).  Today we played our first "real" golf together.  18 holes, we played a 2 man scramble at a fairly tough course and shot a 78.  It was great, both had a really good time and we even managed to use a few of his shots!
Title: Re: Fore!
Post by: Banshee7 on July 11, 2008, 12:29:27 AM
My dad, brother, girlfriend and I went golfing today.  My girlfriend has never touched a golf club before and after 3 holes she was hooked!  So now i'm looking for a good set of womens clubs for her
Title: Re: Fore!
Post by: Shane on July 11, 2008, 07:42:14 AM
right now playing to about a 16 hdcp...

Ben Hogan CS-3 driver and 3 wood, Hogan #3 hybrid, Hogan FTX 4-P and Hogan Colonial wedges (49/52/56), and Hogan Baby Ben putter (actually a Betterdini, which Mizuno now owns).  Can you tell I like Ben Hogan?  Altho i do have a set of Cobra irons as back up.

I also volunteer at the Valero Texas Open - for the past 3 years) on hole #18 as a marshall - you know, the guy who holds up the "quiet" signs.. ironic, huh? lol...  some pros are nicer than others... Hal Sutton and Lee Janzen are two of the more cranky ones.  Saw Daly choke last year, but the playoff between Justin Leonard and Jesper Parnevik was awesome.

Title: Re: Fore!
Post by: RedTop on July 11, 2008, 03:19:14 PM
Shane,

If you ever get up to Austin Area and want to play.....Let me know via PM here. I play at a nice course. Be fun to play sometime and beat you like you beat me on AH :rofl
Title: Re: Fore!
Post by: RedTop on July 11, 2008, 03:19:57 PM
A few months back my son finally gave in to my begging that he take up Golf.  He is 16 and has played baseball so he took to it quite well.  First thing I did was got him some lessons, and a good set of clubs (Hibore Driver, Nike CCI Irons).  Today we played our first "real" golf together.  18 holes, we played a 2 man scramble at a fairly tough course and shot a 78.  It was great, both had a really good time and we even managed to use a few of his shots!

I wish my son had of taken up the game.
Title: Re: Fore!
Post by: Gixer on July 11, 2008, 04:00:59 PM
I wish my son had of taken up the game.

My mum says the same thing, especially when I started racing.. Even my girlfriend at the time started trying to get me into other sports when I was into singles/sidecars and speedway. :lol

I spent months trying to get her to come along to a race, nice to have company but mainly so she could drive the van and help with the gear. After almost a year she finally came along, only for me to get run over 400 meters from the start and have my worst accident of the season.  :lol



<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: Fore!
Post by: ODBAL on July 11, 2008, 04:14:52 PM
Someone ran you over in a golf cart?  That is just rude! They may as well walk in your line.  Bad form.
Title: Re: Fore!
Post by: RedTop on July 11, 2008, 04:23:22 PM
Someone ran you over in a golf cart?  That is just rude! They may as well walk in your line.  Bad form.

 :rofl :aok
Title: Re: Fore!
Post by: Shane on July 11, 2008, 04:39:51 PM
Shane,

If you ever get up to Austin Area and want to play.....Let me know via PM here. I play at a nice course. Be fun to play sometime and beat you like you beat me on AH :rofl

yeah, i'll take you up on that, perhaps when stang is here so you two can gang me, lol...  I have a gooid buddy here, too, who's a level 2 PGA apprentice and has been, errrmm... trying to teach me toejam, some of it sticks... so hopefully I can get him to come along too.

my home course is woodlake here in San Antonio (they held the Tx open there for a few years in the 70's), and I play at randolph AFB a lot, and have played a wide variety of courses down here.

we had a tourney at lakeway (live oak and yaupon) last month, and i've played a few other austin area courses such as Clay/Kizer and umm i think shadow glen or blackhawk.. something like that.  I also noticed Falcon Head and it seemed very nice.  Plum Creek in Kyle isn't too bad, but they've changed management last year, so I dunno now.
I'll PM you sometime soon and see about setting up something.  And if you ever drop in at the Valero Tx Open (Oct) I'll be working #18 - always get some free passes.

Just don't expect "Shane" lol - that was pure AH persona. My best so far is an 81 - which shattered my old 86.. but I generally score around low 90's.
Title: Re: Fore!
Post by: RedTop on July 11, 2008, 04:52:23 PM
Sounds Great Shane!!!!!  I have a bud who plays VERY well. Andy Corder. He's actually playing in the Texas State Open next week in Tyler at the Cascades. He shot 66 to qualify last week. Today , at our home track he shot 62. He had an eagle from 120 on a par 5....and 7 birdies.

I play at Star Ranch. It's just up the road about 5 miles from Blackhawk. I've played Shadow Glen , Blackhawk , Live Oak Yopaun , The Hills , Kizer , Clay , Mo Willy , Muni , Barton Creek Lakeside and Fazio , Austin C.C. , Onion Creek , Lost Creek , Plum Creek , Quail Valley , La Cantera , Pecan Valley , Oak Hills (My bud I mentioned is a member there)  , Tapitio springs , and a few more I can't think of.

It don't matter to me what ya shoot. I enjoy playing. www.starranchgolf.com is the track I play mainly.

Bring your teacher up....we'll tee it up.
Title: Re: Fore!
Post by: Shane on July 11, 2008, 05:06:40 PM
Sounds Great Shane!!!!!  I have a bud who plays VERY well. Andy Corder. He's actually playing in the Texas State Open next week in Tyler at the Cascades. He shot 66 to qualify last week. Today , at our home track he shot 62. He had an eagle from 120 on a par 5....and 7 birdies.

I play at Star Ranch. It's just up the road about 5 miles from Blackhawk. I've played Shadow Glen , Blackhawk , Live Oak Yopaun , The Hills , Kizer , Clay , Mo Willy , Muni , Barton Creek Lakeside and Fazio , Austin C.C. , Onion Creek , Lost Creek , Plum Creek , Quail Valley , La Cantera , Pecan Valley , Oak Hills (My bud I mentioned is a member there)  , Tapitio springs , and a few more I can't think of.

It don't matter to me what ya shoot. I enjoy playing. www.starranchgolf.com is the track I play mainly.

Bring your teacher up....we'll tee it up.

Cool... my PGA friend is working with the 1st Tee of Austin, as he knew Alan Wooley (sp?) who was working at Plum Creek Alan is now Exec Dir for the 1st Tee of the South TX PGA Region.

My other golf buddy's (older guy) son is married to the daughter of the guy who owns Tapatio, and we play out there now and then - fairways are struggling this year, badly. 

We'll meet up and play sometime soon - expect a PM from me.  My schedule is very very flexible.  Maybe Falcon Head if you've not yet played it.  It looked in better shape than live oak/yaupon when I saw it last month.
Title: Re: Fore!
Post by: RedTop on July 11, 2008, 05:16:05 PM
Played Falcon Head...but would love to again....Avery Ranch is really nice as well. Hell I'll play at Plum Creek if ya like....or Kizer (tho the greens there are hurting so Im told)

If ya havent played Avery....that maybe a good spot. Star Ranch has a deal. Green Fee , Cart , Range balls and luch for all one price. And I play Generally in the am. 8:00 9:00 or so....But could be pretty flexible.

Look forward to it.
Title: Re: Fore!
Post by: Stang on July 11, 2008, 06:05:32 PM
Shane, go play The Quarry.  Played it in '99, awesome track, the entire back 9 rings around different levels of an old quarry.  It's right there in San Antonio somewhere.
Title: Re: Fore!
Post by: Shane on July 11, 2008, 06:21:28 PM
Shane, go play The Quarry.  Played it in '99, awesome track, the entire back 9 rings around different levels of an old quarry.  It's right there in San Antonio somewhere.

I play the Quarry a couple times a year (they used to have a father's day deal, buy 2 rounds for $70, good anytime for 1 year, but missed the offer this last month, or they didn't re-offer it).  My golf buddy's daughter-in-law's dad (the Tapatio Springs owner) used to have a partial interest in the quarry as well, but he sold out last year or 2.  The Quarry is nice and in general very good shape - played it in late May, twice.

but...  the best SA track imho is Canyon Springs followed by La Cantera (can't speak for the snobby private clubs).  There's a decent track on the west side, The Golf Club of Texas, and one on the southeast side, Maverick (opened last year).  The Bandit is also very good... hell, lotta good tracks with reasonable rates around town.