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Title: Help!
Post by: Masherbrum on July 12, 2008, 01:10:48 PM
Ok, I built a new gaming rig

Asus P5K-E
E8400 (not OC'd)
4GB of Mushkin PC-8500 DDR2 1066
WDC Raptor X 150GB 10,000 rpm HD
7900GT (with a possible RAM issue)
XP Pro 32-Bit


DxDiag:

Time of this report: 7/12/2008, 14:03:11
Machine name:
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Model: P5K-E
BIOS: BIOS Date: 03/21/08 09:56:22 Ver: 08.00.12
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E8400  @ 3.00GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 3328MB RAM
Page File: 207MB used, 5003MB available
Windows Dir: H:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found. Direct3D 7 test results: All tests were successful. Direct3D 8 test results: All tests were successful. Direct3D 9 test results: All tests were successful.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D:    0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GT/GTO
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 7900 GT/GTO
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0291&SUBSYS_C5633842&REV_A1
Display Memory: 256.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0011.6921 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 12/5/2007 01:41:00, 5773568 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/aMini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 12/5/2007 01:41:00, 7435392 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-41D1-11CF-FB40-68E500C2CB35}
        Vendor ID: 0x10DE
        Device ID: 0x0291
        SubSys ID: 0xC5633842
      Revision ID: 0x00A1
      Revision ID: 0x00A1
      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
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Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D8 Test Result: All tests were successful.
D3D9 Test Result: All tests were successful.


According to Speedfan, my CPU is at 31 C, this case is cold.   

When I get into the point of where the Arena clipboards appear, I lock up.   The cursor locks up and I cannot get out of it.   I realize my VC needs replacing, BUT, last Saturday I played this game on a 3500+ with the identical VC.   Something is telling me, there is something else going on.   
Title: Re: Help!
Post by: Getback on July 12, 2008, 01:21:41 PM
Karaya, I sure don't know what to tell you there. Are you using onboard sound? Also check to see in the task manager what is running. That chip should be able to handle anything though.


Another idea, did you load any intel disk managers?

Hope you get it fixed.

Title: Re: Help!
Post by: NOT on July 12, 2008, 01:58:19 PM
did you install all the chipset drivers and such that came with the MOBO? are you using the same drivers as the old build? what size PSU are you using? could be a number of things, but, i could be the VC is finally failing.




NOT
Title: Re: Help!
Post by: Masherbrum on July 12, 2008, 03:14:54 PM
did you install all the chipset drivers and such that came with the MOBO? are you using the same drivers as the old build? what size PSU are you using? could be a number of things, but, i could be the VC is finally failing.




NOT

I can play JO, little bit of artifacts, but playable.   

I installed all drivers on my ASUS disk, P35 drivers, RAID drivers (don't use em).  I AM using onboard sound.   I have the SB Audigy sitting here, I wanted to throw it in, but we didn't at the last minute.   

I knew I forgot something:

PS is a PC&Cooling 750W Silencer.   
Title: Re: Help!
Post by: NOT on July 12, 2008, 07:01:01 PM
if your going to use onboard sound, it is recommended you turn it down to 75% or lower. other than that, not sure.




NOT
Title: Re: Help!
Post by: Hamltnblue on July 12, 2008, 10:48:16 PM
Even though the VC ran fine on a 3500+, consider it's now working harder with a faster processor.
Make sure the audio drivers are the latest one's and that you have your Bios flashed to the latest.
Heat shouldn't be an issue since the game doesn't even get started before lock up.
Good Luck.  Let us know what you find.
Title: Re: Help!
Post by: Skuzzy on July 14, 2008, 06:21:18 AM
What configuration is the RAM?  4 sticks of 1GB each?  If so, remove two of the sticks.  Or, reduce the memory speed to DDR2-800 and see if the problems go away.

The P5K-E motherboard chipset officially only supports DDR2-800 speed, but ASUS allowed overclocking to DDR2-1066.  I have had a number of issues running some P5K motheroards at over DDR2-800 speeds.

If you are getting any artificats at all, that suggests memory timinig issues.
Title: Re: Help!
Post by: Masherbrum on July 14, 2008, 06:14:49 PM
What configuration is the RAM?  4 sticks of 1GB each?  If so, remove two of the sticks.  Or, reduce the memory speed to DDR2-800 and see if the problems go away.

The P5K-E motherboard chipset officially only supports DDR2-800 speed, but ASUS allowed overclocking to DDR2-1066.  I have had a number of issues running any some of the P5K motheroards at over DDR2-800 speeds.

If you are getting any artificats at all, that suggests memory timinig issues.

2GB x 2.   I was able to play Sat. night.   Game is gonna take a week or two to get used to.   I've realized what I have been missing. 
Title: Re: Help!
Post by: Skuzzy on July 15, 2008, 06:48:33 AM
Might be on the edge then.  Try kicking the memory speed back to DDR2-1000.  If I recall, ASUS has that as a preconfigured option in the BIOS settings.  Also watch the RAM voltage levels and make sure he BIOS is set to use what the RAM manufacturer specs for their RAM.
Title: Re: Help!
Post by: Getback on July 15, 2008, 09:23:35 PM
Karaya, if what Skuzzy said doesn't work you may want to consider doing an RMA for a different MB. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Help!
Post by: Masherbrum on July 15, 2008, 09:44:53 PM
I believe this is my VC.   This PC is solid in every way of the sense.   

Here she is:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130337 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130337)

I'll be ordering this next week.   I'm gonna give them one last shot.   This card is not much bigger than my failing 7900GT.   

Title: Re: Help!
Post by: Pannono on July 16, 2008, 01:27:17 AM
alt f4  :P
Title: Re: Help!
Post by: straffo on July 16, 2008, 06:07:11 AM
I'll ask my usual question : what brand and model of PSU do you have  ?
Title: Re: Help!
Post by: Skuzzy on July 16, 2008, 06:14:08 AM
You will need a hefty power supply with that 8800GTS video card.
Title: Re: Help!
Post by: straffo on July 16, 2008, 09:07:37 AM
Didn't see Karaya posted brand and model , I've checked the usual hardware web site it look to be a good PSU
Title: Re: Help!
Post by: Masherbrum on July 16, 2008, 03:43:54 PM
You will need a hefty power supply with that 8800GTS video card.

I went with the PC & Coolling 750W Silencer.   I think she can handle an 8800GTS.   You told me to get one.   :devil
Title: Re: Help!
Post by: Skuzzy on July 16, 2008, 04:10:02 PM
I had forgot which PS you went with.  Yes, that supply will be plenty.

I still think that pushing the RAM passed DDR2-800 could be a problem with that motherboard, as far as stability goes.
Title: Re: Help!
Post by: Masherbrum on July 16, 2008, 10:09:24 PM
I had forgot which PS you went with.  Yes, that supply will be plenty.

I still think that pushing the RAM passed DDR2-800 could be a problem with that motherboard, as far as stability goes.

I'm using the Auto setting on the Asus Suite now.   It runs beautifully.   Next week CANNOT come fast enough.   
Title: Re: Help!
Post by: BaldEagl on July 16, 2008, 11:52:46 PM
You will need a hefty power supply with that 8800GTS video card.

He's got the same PSU I have for that card.  He'll be fine.

Masher, do you have 2 LAN ports?  If so did you make sure to disable one of them in the BIOS?

Nevermind... Didn't see page 2.
Title: Re: Help!
Post by: morfiend on July 17, 2008, 02:42:43 PM
Kara:

 I have a very similar setup,different ram and psu,both corsair. I have the 8800gts,p5ke 8400 ect. Roy is correct,reduce ram speed and loosen ram timing,the P5Ke seems to not like the 1066 ram speed even though it says it will handle it. I set mine to auto as well hasn't caused a prob since.... Your gonna luv the 8800 kinda overkill for AH2 tho... lol