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Title: Vehicle bases - ack & soft guns status
Post by: kj714 on July 14, 2008, 02:32:08 PM
Someone in the know clarify please, I've gotten different answers to these questions:

Does the soft gun have to be down in order for troops to take at a v base?

Does an auto ack being up (the far one, not firing on your troops) have to be down for troops to take?

I have heard that being up or down has no effect, I have also heard that either or both being up is the same effect as a building being up in town, negates the troops. Anyone know?

Title: Re: Vehicle bases - ack & soft guns status
Post by: SlapShot on July 14, 2008, 02:36:49 PM
No and No
Title: Re: Vehicle bases - ack & soft guns status
Post by: kilz on July 14, 2008, 03:06:02 PM
Soft Gun (maned Ack) does not have to be down, in order to take a V-base.

All Auto Ack has to be down, in order to take a V-base.

just because it does not shoot at your troops does not mean it will not kill them.

A very long time again you could leave the far ack up and take a V-base but that has changed over time.
Title: Re: Vehicle bases - ack & soft guns status
Post by: A8TOOL on July 14, 2008, 03:14:00 PM
What Kilz Said is absolutely true.

Many a V-base captures have been spoiled due to one of the auto's coming up at the wrong time. As far as the manned goes, make sure it's down as well and remeber that it does not stay down nearly as long as the Auto so keep checking.

 Anyone know how long the manned does stay down...never put a clock on it.
Title: Re: Vehicle bases - ack & soft guns status
Post by: Pannono on July 14, 2008, 03:15:45 PM
Anyone know how long the manned does stay down...never put a clock on it.
i believe 15 mins
skuzzy?
Title: Re: Vehicle bases - ack & soft guns status
Post by: kj714 on July 14, 2008, 03:53:18 PM
Interesting, Slapshot and Kilz, both of whom I would trust with an answer, gave different answers. This is how this convo goes. Hard to sort out.
Title: Re: Vehicle bases - ack & soft guns status
Post by: Banshee7 on July 14, 2008, 03:55:19 PM
i believe 15 mins
skuzzy?

correct i do believe.

Interesting, Slapshot and Kilz, both of whom I would trust with an answer, gave different answers. This is how this convo goes. Hard to sort out.

I have always known that what kilz said is true
Title: Re: Vehicle bases - ack & soft guns status
Post by: A8TOOL on July 14, 2008, 04:38:12 PM
Interesting, Slapshot and Kilz, both of whom I would trust with an answer, gave different answers. This is how this convo goes. Hard to sort out.

Take it from a base taker, both auto's need to be down. Ensure your time is well spent by killing the manned or take it a step further and kill all hangers and rouge GV's as well.
Title: Re: Vehicle bases - ack & soft guns status
Post by: kilz on July 14, 2008, 04:42:49 PM
soft gun (man gun) stays down for 15 minutes

Auto Ack stays down for 45 minutes


Quote
Slapshot and Kilz, both of whom I would trust with an answer

thank you for your trust in my answers  :salute
Title: Re: Vehicle bases - ack & soft guns status
Post by: WMLute on July 14, 2008, 04:46:41 PM
Soft gun does not need to be down.  (but someone can up in it and kill troops)

Yes both auto acks need to be down.
Title: Re: Vehicle bases - ack & soft guns status
Post by: SlapShot on July 15, 2008, 08:38:53 AM
Interesting, Slapshot and Kilz, both of whom I would trust with an answer, gave different answers. This is how this convo goes. Hard to sort out.

A very long time again you could leave the far ack up and take a V-base but that has changed over time.

That I didn't know ... It use to be if the ack couldn't or didn't shoot the troops ... you were OK. I stand corrected.
Title: Re: Vehicle bases - ack & soft guns status
Post by: CAP1 on July 15, 2008, 03:34:55 PM
i believe 15 mins
skuzzy?

I WAS TOLD 15 MINUTES FOR MANNED ACK, 45 FOR AUTO ACK, AND 15 MINUTES EACH FOR THE VH'S

I THINK I REMEMBER TROOPS NOT TAKING WHEN I HAD LEFT ONE OF THE ACKS UP BEFORE TOO......
Title: Re: Vehicle bases - ack & soft guns status
Post by: MachNix on July 15, 2008, 03:56:23 PM
Just to sum things up:
Soft gun does not have to be down.  The only way that gun can kill troops is for someone to man it and shoot them.  The gun being up does not prevent a capture like having a town building up.
Auto ack has to be down.  The ack will not shoot or may not have a clear shot at the troops but the troops will simply disappear when they get within range or step onto the base.  The auto ack being up also does not prevent a capture like having a town building up; you just can’t get any troops to the maproom.

Title: Re: Vehicle bases - ack & soft guns status
Post by: kilz on July 15, 2008, 04:21:19 PM
Just to sum things up:
Soft gun does not have to be down.  The only way that gun can kill troops is for someone to man it and shoot them.  The gun being up does not prevent a capture correct

Auto ack has to be down.  The ack will not shoot or may not have a clear shot at the troops but the troops will simply disappear when they get within range correct range is 1k 

The auto ack being up also does not prevent a capture like having a town building up; you just can’t get any troops to the maproom. yes it does prevent the base capture due to the fact your troops die


Title: Re: Vehicle bases - ack & soft guns status
Post by: icemaw on July 16, 2008, 01:40:42 PM
hiyas slappy how ya been man :salute
Title: Re: Vehicle bases - ack & soft guns status
Post by: SlapShot on July 16, 2008, 02:31:32 PM
hiyas slappy how ya been man :salute

ICE !!! ... <<S>> bud !!!

Long time ... no see.
Title: Re: Vehicle bases - ack & soft guns status
Post by: A8TOOL on July 16, 2008, 03:29:04 PM
Any other old MAW still on?

I see these guys on sometimes. It's a whole lot different than the 80+ they once had. Think I seen Nate on not long ago.  Anyway, wrong place to put this but here it is.

40DogMAW    AmReo
BiGBMAW    BoophMAW
Bugler    cornwell
d7MAW    ibgr1969
iceMAW oldbob
Paint    PropMAW
SoloMAW    SURFMAW2
TMAW    Voreskin
WolfMAW    x0cet
Title: Re: Vehicle bases - ack & soft guns status
Post by: SlapShot on July 16, 2008, 06:09:20 PM
Any other old MAW still on?

I see these guys on sometimes. It's a whole lot different than the 80+ they once had. Think I seen Nate on not long ago.  Anyway, wrong place to put this but here it is.

40DogMAW    AmReo
BiGBMAW    BoophMAW
Bugler    cornwell
d7MAW    ibgr1969
iceMAW oldbob
Paint    PropMAW
SoloMAW    SURFMAW2
TMAW    Voreskin
WolfMAW    x0cet


Spoke to N8Dog just the other night.

Miss those guys.
Title: Re: Vehicle bases - ack & soft guns status
Post by: kilz on July 16, 2008, 07:15:32 PM
Any other old MAW still on?

I see these guys on sometimes. It's a whole lot different than the 80+ they once had. Think I seen Nate on not long ago.  Anyway, wrong place to put this but here it is.

40DogMAW    AmReo
BiGBMAW    BoophMAW
Bugler    cornwell
d7MAW    ibgr1969
iceMAW oldbob
Paint    PropMAW
SoloMAW    SURFMAW2
TMAW    Voreskin
WolfMAW    x0cet

havent seen 40DogMAW in a few tours AmReo pops in every now and then under a new name cornwell still plays oldbob still plays x0cet i think plays in the AvA
Title: Re: Vehicle bases - ack & soft guns status
Post by: icemaw on July 17, 2008, 12:56:42 AM
  You still fly slappy? I have been on a bit latley allmost never see any of the old gaurd. I have been flying on my old shade account heathen. Hope to see ya up sometime.  :salute
Title: Re: Vehicle bases - ack & soft guns status
Post by: SlapShot on July 17, 2008, 10:22:23 AM
  You still fly slappy? I have been on a bit latley allmost never see any of the old gaurd. I have been flying on my old shade account heathen. Hope to see ya up sometime.  :salute

Yup ... spend most of my time in the Mid War Arena ... I have been spending more time lately in the Late War Blue Arena ... when the numbers in there aren't too large.
Title: Re: Vehicle bases - ack & soft guns status
Post by: Dragon on July 17, 2008, 11:16:54 AM
Take it from a base taker, both auto's need to be down. Ensure your time is well spent by killing the manned or take it a step further and kill all hangers and rouge GV's as well.

So NUKE it, take it, rebuild it?
Title: Re: Vehicle bases - ack & soft guns status
Post by: Lusche on July 17, 2008, 11:32:07 AM
So NUKE it, take it, rebuild it?

When you have captured it, there's usually not much more to rebuild on a VBase than radar and maybee troops (ords are only necessary in case you want to spawn SdkKfz or PT's with rockets). Ack guns do come back up instantly after capture, regardless of remaining downtime. And you can't shorten hangar downtimes by any means, they are not resupplyable.