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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: ian5440 on July 15, 2008, 03:40:08 AM
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Ok, i know the plane isnt seen much in the MA and this is one of the few planes i do not know how to fly.
Is this a BnZ(what it seems like) but im not sure what to do with it :rolleyes: :huh :huh
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I've flown it a bit in the past. This is a great plane in the right hands. It is a turn fighter, and can keep up with a Spitfire if used right! All I can tell you is keep flying it and you'll soon find its strengths and weaknesses.
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Ok, i know the plane isnt seen much in the MA and this is one of the few planes i do not know how to fly.
Is this a BnZ(what it seems like) but im not sure what to do with it :rolleyes: :huh :huh
it's a Japanese P-51
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Uhhh... No.
It is not a Japanese P-51.
Think of it as an inferior N1k2, without the quad cannon setup. You don't want to get TOO slow, because it has a nasty stall, but it turns really well until that point.
Unfortunately it's slow as a glacier, climbs worse, and tops out at 15k (after which power drops off horribly).
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and in a dive the elevators blow clean out. unlike a pony :D
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The Ki-61 is a very nice fighter. It will turn with a Spit if you know what you're doing. Keep it in the 200-250 range and it's turn rate is very good. It's got decent but not spectacular climb rate and speed. It carries tons of fuel and the 20's have a very high rate of fire and are quite deadly, although they share the poor ballistic qualities of the other Japanese (and Russian) fighters. The Tony is also one of the better Japanese aircraft in a dive.
If you think of it as an energy turn fighter you'll have success in it.
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Uhhh... No.
It is not a Japanese P-51.
Think of it as an inferior N1k2, without the quad cannon setup. You don't want to get TOO slow, because it has a nasty stall, but it turns really well until that point.
Unfortunately it's slow as a glacier, climbs worse, and tops out at 15k (after which power drops off horribly).
thats always been your main problem krusty, you can never respect any one else's opinion.
the Ki-61 dives at close to 500 MPH, hold 300+ MPH turns and no other jap plane does that, oh and the fuel last for what seems like forever, if the best fuel loadout is 50% draining the center tank first or the wings first what ever a person feels comfortable with.
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thats always been your main problem krusty, you can never respect any one else's opinion.
the Ki-61 dives at close to 500 MPH,
Any evidence to back that up?
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Aren't the Ki-61s cannons in the nose and the machine guns in the wings?
Having the cannons in the nose makes for reduced convergence concerns. I may have to spend some more time in the Ki-61, been upping mostly Japanese fighters lately anyway, might be fun.
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This won't be of much help to you but it's a thread I started not long ago on the Ki-61 in the Aircraft and Vehicle forum. It at least makes some comparisons to other planes and gets other's perspectives as to what it's close to:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,238541.0.html
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thats always been your main problem krusty, you can never respect any one else's opinion.
the Ki-61 dives at close to 500 MPH, hold 300+ MPH turns and no other jap plane does that, oh and the fuel last for what seems like forever, if the best fuel loadout is 50% draining the center tank first or the wings first what ever a person feels comfortable with.
I haven't flown the KI-61 in the last year or so, but I did fly it for a whole tour and put it away after that because my elevators would rip off in a steep dive. Maybe they changed the modeling? It used to come no where near a 500mph dive. :salute
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<S> all Thanx :salute
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Ok, i know the plane isnt seen much in the MA and this is one of the few planes i do not know how to fly.
Is this a BnZ(what it seems like) but im not sure what to do with it :rolleyes: :huh :huh
If you're interested in learning how to fly the Tony, you should get a hold of Karaya or odege. Probably two of the better Ki-61 sticks in this game.
ack-ack
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Uhhh... No.
It is not a Japanese P-51.
Think of it as an inferior N1k2, without the quad cannon setup. You don't want to get TOO slow, because it has a nasty stall, but it turns really well until that point.
Unfortunately it's slow as a glacier, climbs worse, and tops out at 15k (after which power drops off horribly).
You talk of the Tony about as "Factually" as you discuss the State of the Polish Air Force at the start of WWII. :aok
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Ok, i know the plane isnt seen much in the MA and this is one of the few planes i do not know how to fly.
Is this a BnZ(what it seems like) but im not sure what to do with it :rolleyes: :huh :huh
I am in the Late War Arenas flying the very plane you seek knowledge in. I would be MORE THAN happy to let you in on some secrets.
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You talk of the Tony about as "Factually" as you discuss the State of the Polish Air Force at the start of WWII. :aok
And you reply as wittily as you request aircraft that played no part in the war (read: poorly)
The Ki-61 can be compared to many craft. The P-51 is not one of them. In EVERY area where the P-51 has a strength, the Ki-61 has that as a weakness, and every area that the Ki-61 has a strength is the weakest area on the P-51.
P-51 has speed and lacks agility, the Ki-61 lacks almost any speed and is quite agile.
So try again to insult me masher, go ahead. You can't make any part of the P-51/Ki-61 comparison stick and you know it.
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So try again to insult me masher, go ahead. You can't make any part of the P-51/Ki-61 comparison stick and you know it.
he wasn't trying to.
and in comparison to all the other jap aircraft in this GAME, it does handle like a P-51, well atleast for me it does.
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No, he was directly insulting me, and quite deliberately.
http://www.gonzoville.com/ahcharts/index.php?p1=p51d&p2=ki61
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Been flying it lately, a lot.
P51 is NOT a comparison I would make. It flies NOTHING like a P51 :salute
It feels more like a Spit then a Pony, I just haven't decided which Spit...
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Been flying it lately, a lot.
P51 is NOT a comparison I would make. It flies NOTHING like a P51 :salute
It feels more like a Spit then a Pony, I just haven't decided which Spit...
well that is just what i refer it to. Never a spit though even though they are such easily defeated targets.
and it will fly close to a 51, more than the other jap planes.
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well that is just what i refer it to.
Fair enough. You have the opinion that it is the Japanese P51. To each their own.
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No, he was directly insulting me, and quite deliberately.
http://www.gonzoville.com/ahcharts/index.php?p1=p51d&p2=ki61
Again, you haven't a clue about what I posted. I don't need to lower myself to "insult" you. Psst. The Tony turned with FM2's in WWII. In here it doesn't, <whispers>so what does that say about "charts"?
You deserve whatever "insults" you get for what you posted about Poland.
Quite frankly, I wasn't even responding to your 51 comment. More so towards "the inferior Niki" one. But, hey, you know it all right?
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And you reply as wittily as you request aircraft that played no part in the war (read: poorly)
I really do hate to burst your bubble but Polish aircraft did play a part in War World II, they were used to defend their country when they were invaded by Nazi Germany. But that's not what this thread is discussing, my apologies for a hijack to the OP.
ack-ack
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Been flying it lately, a lot.
P51 is NOT a comparison I would make. It flies NOTHING like a P51 :salute
It feels more like a Spit then a Pony, I just haven't decided which Spit...
I think a more accurate comparison would be with the C.202 or bf 109-E, which is what the USAAF pilots at first thought the Ki-61 was when it was first encountered.
ack-ack
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The Tony turned with FM2's in WWII. In here it doesn't
It doesn't miss by much. I was suprised at how well I did against an FM2 in it that one night.
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Some of the ones he requested didn't do squat, ack-ack. And let us also not forget the Defiants... they were used in larger numbers, for longer, but they have no place in this game either. "sorry for the hijack" too.
I know it's got the same engine as a C202, but I think it feels more like a 109E than the Macchi, which just handles "uniquely" (IMO) in this game.
P.S. Masher: I'm 1/4 Polish. Don't get holier-than-thou because I responded negatively to a biased plane request wishlist. They also used unarmed motorcycles, they also used horse-drawn carriages (most of the German army was Horses almost the entire war), yet none of these would have a place in a tank-based warfare game. Neither would the Polish planes have any place in an overall WW2 game. If you have a game specifically tailored to the Polish conflict, then so be it. In the big picture these planes did nothing, and you didn't even look up some of the history on some of them before listing them in a wishlist thread.
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I think a more accurate comparison would be with the C.202 or bf 109-E, which is what the USAAF pilots at first thought the Ki-61 was when it was first encountered.
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In the game of AH, it is MORE THAN a match for a Pony. But, I'm sure Krusty who rarely flies the Tony in the Arenas, would say otherwise.
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^-- pissing and moaning because nobody likes him? I dunno.
I've flown the Ki61 more than most. Used to fly it regularly most tours. That thing called real life (and "work") gets in the way so I limit my planeset lately.
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Some of the ones he requested didn't do squat, ack-ack. And let us also not forget the Defiants... they were used in larger numbers, for longer, but they have no place in this game either. "sorry for the hijack" too.
I know it's got the same engine as a C202, but I think it feels more like a 109E than the Macchi, which just handles "uniquely" (IMO) in this game.
The only planes I've ever requested are the I.A.R. 81c, PBY5, Brewster, Ki-45 and the D.520.
Again, you made so many errors and BS remarks about the Poles, you lost some credibility with many on this Board. That, I can guarantee.
I never insulted you, except in the Polish thread. I'm far from it in here. I even offered to help the thread poster, which I believe, no one else has done, including your "I'm elite but I rarely fly the Tony, but I'll chime in anyway" highness.
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^-- pissing and moaning because nobody likes him? I dunno.
I've flown the Ki61 more than most. Used to fly it regularly most tours. That thing called real life (and "work") gets in the way so I limit my planeset lately.
Sorry, my statement stands. Amazing on how I'm not even "insulting", but guess who is? :devil
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Some of the ones he requested didn't do squat, ack-ack. And let us also not forget the Defiants... they were used in larger numbers, for longer, but they have no place in this game either. "sorry for the hijack" too.
I know it's got the same engine as a C202, but I think it feels more like a 109E than the Macchi, which just handles "uniquely" (IMO) in this game.
P.S. Masher: I'm 1/4 Polish. Don't get holier-than-thou because I responded negatively to a biased plane request wishlist. They also used unarmed motorcycles, they also used horse-drawn carriages (most of the German army was Horses almost the entire war), yet none of these would have a place in a tank-based warfare game. Neither would the Polish planes have any place in an overall WW2 game. If you have a game specifically tailored to the Polish conflict, then so be it. In the big picture these planes did nothing, and you didn't even look up some of the history on some of them before listing them in a wishlist thread.
I only stated the PZL.11 would be fun to have. I suggest you get over this.
You need to read what you typed about the 27 and the 37. You claim a "prototype" (the 27) "bombed armored columns". The 27 was a one off in 1934. BUT, the 37 bombed many armored columns because it was a Medium Bomber. You pretty much abandonded that thread something fierce when you met "more informative resistance". Gee I wonder why?
Again, you DON'T KNOW IT ALL, so stop pretending that you do.
You insulted the Poles who fought in WWII. You insulted possibly some ancestry. But cringe when "insulted"? Get over it, live with your "shortcomings in life" and move on. I guarantee you I am NOT ALONE in saying this. If you want to insult someone further (which you've done to me plenty in this thread by "assuming" what I meant.), insult your lack of Polish history and getting caught trying to pass it off as Gospel.
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This is the Help and Training Forum.
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This is the Help and Training Forum.
I offered to help said poster.
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I offered to help said poster.
I think he's trying to help Krusty with some social issues as well :D
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I offered to help said poster.
but your telling him something he already knew....... :D