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General Forums => Axis vs Allies => Topic started by: captain1ma on July 17, 2008, 07:37:39 AM
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7/15/08-- 2000hrs. JG54 had probably the single best night in the AVA in a long time. The evil allied players were swarming like angry hornets all over the place. JG54 came in to a Mob scene of aircraft, Death and destruction. <edit> <S> to the Soar guys, the 49th and the Avengers for putting up an Army of resistance. The battles were absolutely epic. All the Allied groups showed lots of heart in killing and coming right back out for more if they were killed. It was a great time for us and everyone else too i hope.
7/16/08--2150hrs. Due to the numbers JG54 decided to switch sides and become allieds. what an amazing difference in the style of the fights. The bad guys seem to have trouble getting away from their bases. Apparently the tracktor beams kept them within the bounds of the ack. i guess no one could find the switch to shut them off, so they ended up being leashed to the bases. then the comments started flying, which we are guilty of also, and things deteriorated a bit. We were kind of hoping for the same type of engagements as the previous night but, it was apparent, that wasn't going to happen!
After some encouragement from the powers that be, most of us decided to retreat to a different arena. most of us except for VWE. he stayed on and Valiantly fought and protected one of the carriers single-handedly. 1 against many! the reason we are good at what we do is because we have heart! VWE is a prime example of that. He fought off JABO after JABO of JU-88's and finally succumbed to the bombs! but not before getting 31 kills. <S> to VWE! great Job!! :salute
anyway its been a fun couple of nights guys. If you get a chance join the AVA. There are great players in the AVA. Lots of fun and if you want to learn the game, that's the place to be. if you fly alone, get in touch with some of the AVA squads and ask about joining them. Its a great group!!
Deutchland uber alles
This propaganda report brought to you courtesy of JG54 and teh Tardwhackers :)
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"most of us decided to retreat to a different arena."
retreat LOL
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7/15/08-- 2000hrs. JG54 had probably the single best night in the AVA in a long time. The evil allied players were swarming like angry hornets all over the place. JG54 came in to a Mob scene of aircraft, Death and destruction. <edit> <S> to the Soar guys, the 49th and the Avengers for putting up an Army of resistance. The battles were absolutely epic. All the Allied groups showed lots of heart in killing and coming right back out for more if they were killed. It was a great time for us and everyone else too i hope.
7/16/08--2150hrs. Due to the numbers JG54 decided to switch sides and become allieds. what an amazing difference in the style of the fights. The bad guys seem to have trouble getting away from their bases. Apparently the tracktor beams kept them within the bounds of the ack. i guess no one could find the switch to shut them off, so they ended up being leashed to the bases. then the comments started flying, which we are guilty of also, and things deteriorated a bit. We were kind of hoping for the same type of engagements as the previous night but, it was apparent, that wasn't going to happen!
After some encouragement from the powers that be, most of us decided to retreat to a different arena. most of us except for VWE. he stayed on and Valiantly fought and protected one of the carriers single-handedly. 1 against many! the reason we are good at what we do is because we have heart! VWE is a prime example of that. He fought off JABO after JABO of JU-88's and finally succumbed to the bombs! but not before getting 31 kills. <S> to VWE! great Job!! :salute
anyway its been a fun couple of nights guys. If you get a chance join the AVA. There are great players in the AVA. Lots of fun and if you want to learn the game, that's the place to be. if you fly alone, get in touch with some of the AVA squads and ask about joining them. Its a great group!!
Deutchland uber alles
This propaganda report brought to you courtesy of JG54 and teh Tardwhackers :)
Please don't start these again.
Venom
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first off its all in fun. call it the spirit of the game if you will.
secondly alot of people actually liked them and have asked me why i stopped doing them.
thirdly no one says you have to read them.
have a nice day :)
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"most of us decided to retreat to a different arena."
retreat LOL
as opposed to ---
last night in the AVA the "see rule 4" by the jg11! then the "see rule 4,11 and 15" there. after that the "see rule 4" and the "see rule 4" started "see rule 4 and 5". Etc, Etc,Etc
id say my version is much nicer hehehehe
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Actually I find them quite funny I liked the films you used to make also. Seems they seemed to end somewhere around the Battle of Britain time frame for some reason.
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i cant take credit for the films. republic made those. he did a great job!
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as opposed to ---
last night in the AVA the "see rule 4" by the jg11! then the "see rule 4,11 and 15" there. after that the "see rule 4" and the "see rule 4" started "see rule 4 and 5". Etc, Etc,Etc
id say my version is much nicer hehehehe
Perhaps I'm too sensitive to the above. Take away these type of issues in the arena, and I do think these would be very fun bravado posts that all could enjoy.
Venom
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"most of us decided to retreat to a different arena"
that about covers it :rofl
shamus
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See Rules #4, #5
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"most of us decided to retreat to a different arena"
that about covers it :rofl
shamus
I would say so too. :lolGood thing you guys are back. :aok
I'm afraid JG11 just can't pull it of with class like the 54 guys.
N7! Have not seen you in a while. :aok
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VWE smacked me down repeatedly the other night. Wish I'd have seen you coming just once but nicely done sir <S>
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N7! Have not seen you in a while. :aok
You will soon enough, while your a/c is tumbling down from the sky with a missing empennage you just might get a glimpse as I whiz by. :aok
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Oh the irony!
:rofl
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Whats so ironic Vortex?
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And as the plane crashed down he thought
"Well isn't this nice..."
And isn't it ironic... don't you think
:)
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Bug an Alanis Morissette fan? :uhoh
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Like you're not..
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We're the regulators that de-regulate
We're the animators that de-animate
(http://hem.bredband.net/turnik/icons/icon_smoke.gif)
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Like you're not..
Well she is better than "system of a down" and "nickelback". Hell Storch soloing on vox is better than them too! :t
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How predictable. JG 54 is already starting to show their real "class" in this thread.
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How predictable. JG 54 is already starting to show their real "class" in this thread.
How predictable. 33Vortex voicing his opinion about JG54.
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Just didn't want to let you have a cozy 'n fuzzy little ego-stroking thread again. :aok
Maybe next time I will.
Edit: I should clarify as it's undoubtedly coming across very harsh. What I mean is... I don't mind you guys thinking highly of yourselves. But please, do so with a portion of truth, some sense of style and respect for others who also want to have fun in the AvA arena.
If you can do that, it's all good.
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After being chat attacked and threatend I decided to have fun with CV48
after getting it close to a24 the attacks started and kept coming
Chemdawg and Meandog from above an OLD MAN AND EAGLEHEART from the water
Had a great time manuvering the CV all over the place .
Getting attacked while I was going around in circles
I think we took 50 Ju88 flights before the bombs got us
SALUTE : to all involved.
Oceans11
"EO11
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Bug an Alanis Morissette fan? :uhoh
don't get him started or he will break out his Culture Club collection :rofl :devil
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How predictable. JG 54 is already starting to show their real "class" in this thread.
Seems to me your the one with the ego problem. All I said was Alanis is better than "X Band" and you get all pouty about how my squad doesn't respect you. :lol
If you have a problem with a member of jg54 then take it up with them personally. We have all types of players with different personalities and we don't try to run a uniform squad. If you want their respect I suggest you fight for it in the arena and stop posting your blanketed statements about guys you don't even know.
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don't get him started or he will break out his Culture Club collection :rofl :devil
Bug will pay! He got that damn song stuck in my head now. :mad:
"Its a freeee riiiide when you already paid"
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We need to get an Aces High sitcom. it would be a hit. :P
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If you want their respect I suggest you fight for it in the arena and stop posting your blanketed statements about guys you don't even know.
There is no respect to get from you guys. Storch will always continue to spew his belittlement on us whatever we (JG11) do. He has been asked time and again to stop, even reported and warned ingame. He may back off for a while but always return to the same behaviour. It's simply not acceptable, and reflects heavily on your (his) squad. The squad CO is the front figure and more often than not personalize a squad. As you are all members of his squad, you support him if not directly, indirectly by being members of it. When you <S> someone and don't recieve a <S> in return, that says a lot.
Was a member of your squad, you don't remember? Not that you guys flew with me much anyway, but I was a member of JG54 and believe you joined the squad at a later time than me. Storch flew with me for some time after I joined but then quit doing that, for what reason I can only guess. But from JG54 there never was much interest in me nor the way I fly from that point on. Instead of striving to learn more advanced ACM the trend was more towards h2h knife-fights. Sure, that's fun but if one seek to advance his knowledge in the area of ACM there's so much more to it. I eventually found JG54 simply wasn't my cup of tea, as you were all flying allied rides more than LW, and were (at least at the time) very individually minded.
Coming from JG54 to JG11 was like night and day. If storch doesn't like what I'm saying, he is free to improve upon his squad (especially in the area of manners) but don't spew horses*** on JG11 or me because of whatever personal issues there may be. I had no issue whatsoever with storch when leaving the squad, but his behaviour towards JG11 has been inexcusible, to say the least. It's been a real eye-opener to me.
I'm beyond asking, respecting, or behaving, in front of you guys. There is a problem between storch and quite a few people in this community. It is your problem too as you are members of his squad. It became my problem when I joined the squad targeted by storch (without knowing anything about it beforehand). So what are we going to do about it? Well, you guys could give it a head start by starting to act civil in the AvA, for one.
Edit: I didn't want to take it this far, because it most likely is just a waste of time. So don't be surprised if I just let it be from here on. If you really want a serious discussion about what I have mentioned above, you'd know how to talk to me honestly. Propagandistic, artificially created or slanted truth is distasteful, especially in a game. Recognizing the truth and presenting it in a respectable, open manner is what would impress upon intellectual (thinking) people, and earn you some respect within this community. Just like anywhere else.
This was all brought to you in a friendly tone, no aggression involved at all. Just being honest, is me.
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You let storch get into your head too much man. I never see any jg11 respond to storch and I cant understand why his antics get you so upset. Its just the way he likes to play his game just how you have your way. Most people, like jg11, just ignore it and/or try to shoot him down and that's what he wants. There will always be guys like storch, shane etc. you just have to shrug it off or de-tune 200, nothing they ever say is at all harsh anyway.
FYI I do remember you being in the squad vortex, although for a short time. Didn't see you much on-line, I guess because your six hours ahead of me. I was in the squad back when Jester and Lowejg/Shifty ran it, it was JG3 then and now JG54 and we flew the CT/ava exclusively. When you joined we were in MA mode because that AAHII release pretty much shut down the CT due to lack of maps and player loss. A few of us have been flying together for a long time and as time goes on we pick up more players that like our style and some that don't. Most of our roots are with LW a/c but we like to try all that AHII has to offer. I'm sorry if you seemed let down by your experience but that's the way we've always been, no reason to hold a grudge.
We also don't have one member who controls the squad we do what we feel given the style of play in that arena. Every once in a while we group up and do the whole "sqwad mishun" thing but that got old after 2-3 years of doing it in JG3 and early JG54. We play as civil as we can in a WWII simulation. Yet squabbles do occur, in that case like I said before please take it up with that individual and not assume we all share the same opinions on the matter.
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N72
Didn't know you were in the squad for such a long time. I don't engage in 200 chat, it's not in my interest. Nor is talking to storch, he crossed the line a good few times too many. He is probably the only person in this community that I have completely lost respect for, because of his own actions, nothing more nothing less. I should probably just leave it at that.
You know, if someone came up to you on the street, laughed you in the face and told you how weak you are. What would you do? What would you think of the guy? I know what I would think... "This guy has a serious problem." then I would leave. But what if this guy tried to get you every day, when you're doing something on your own free time that you enjoy, he'd come up to you and try to provoke you as best he could? And if you didn't react, he'd spit you in the face or do something to one of your friends instead.
Both you and I know what to think of such people. It's a behavioural pattern some kids develop in kindergarten, or early years in school, but most stop doing somewhere in the process of growing up.
Respect is just not meant for some.
Again, this is all friendly talk from my end.
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I hear ya. :salute
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Vortex, Keeping this friendly and all, when I joined the squad you were a member. I tried talking to you and rarely received any response at all. I felt you thought I was out of your league as a pilot and not worth your time. I kept quiet most of the time just because i was a newbie. Im not dissen on you, but you seem to act like you were so apt to help others but I just didnt see it. The rest of the old timers however tried to teach me some things and to this day still welcome me as a solid member of the squad. No offense, but in my eyes you are the pot painting the kettle black. So remember that when you try to label each member of the squad based on your personal issues or dealings.
I just dont like being labeled and am sure you can appreciate it.
Tyrant
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Absolutely Tyrant, if that was your experience of me I'm sorry. Keep in mind though, that my communication skills (in english, which is not my first language) has improved enormously over this time period. So if I seemed stuck up to you for not answering you or not helping you, it was most likely because I couldn't communicate properly the way I wanted to. We all develop skills as life goes by, mistakes are made and learnt from. Things are seldom what they seem. Over the years I've learned to be patient with people, with very few exceptions. It has never been my intention to put all of you in the same corner, just trying to figure this out as you guys are my old squaddies.
Thanks for the honest and straightforward conversation. :salute
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You know, if someone came up to you on the street, laughed you in the face and told you how weak you are. What would you do? What would you think of the guy? I know what I would think... "This guy has a serious problem." then I would leave.
This is seriously dishonest, if your gonna give an example give an accurate one. Nobody came up to you on the street. Here's the question:
What would you do if you were playing baseball and someone said "you swing like a rusty gate?"
If he inquired "how's your wife and my kids" or ""you couldn't pitch a tent!"?
If a basket ball player said "You building a house with all those bricks"?
If a football player said "you couldn't catch a cold" or "bring that weak stuff, I own this field"?
If a soccer player said, "get off your knees, you're blowing the game"?
If a boxer said "you fight like a girl" because you keep running away?
( here's a whole book on the subject http://www.amazon.co.uk/Big-Book-Sports-Insults-unadmiring/dp/0304366846 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Big-Book-Sports-Insults-unadmiring/dp/0304366846))
If someone had a big problem and cried everytime someone tossed out some smack what would you think of the guy? I know what I would think... "This guy has a serious problem." then I would leave.
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This is seriously dishonest, if your gonna give an example give an accurate one.
If someone had a big problem and cried everytime someone tossed out some smack what would you think of the guy?
How about a little honesty and accuracy on your part? It's not smack talk in the normal sense of the word, it's harassment. It's constant, and it goes on much more than people complain about it. In fact the complaints about it are nowhere near the level of the harassment. Mainly because people like you want to condone the behavior of this individual. You take up for him intstead of encouraging him to grow up. Instead of implying anybody that complains about his behavior having a problem, you should be wondering what the problem of the individual who can't control himself is. This isn't normal smack talk and it never has been.
To compare it to smack talk on the street or a playing field is lame. There you do it face to face, if you keep it it up, sooner or later somebody is going to painfully shut your mouth for you. Constantly insulting people from the safety of your PC is neither, cool, tough, or manly. It is a cowardly behavior problem. The fact that you would insult people who have grown tired of it by suggesting they are the ones with the problem tells me, you're part of the problem.
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Tyrant I have to say that the pass you made on me the other night was textbook. I never saw you coming, serves me right as I didn't keep my attention on if anyone was above me. Carrying 13 kills I got very frustrated from losing the left wing and left flap. Had the flap been in working order, I could have at least ditched it. Attempting to land the A-5 couldn't keep the wings level at slow speed so it turned over and made a hole in the ground for me. That was my only loss that night, and you got a kill well deserved. :salute
If you think I'm not bothering with Kong's post, well... I'm not. What shifty said covers it.
Shifty :salute - Hope to see you up in the AvA soon! Miss the good fights vs the 49th!
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See Rule #4, #5
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Shifty,
Nowhere in my post was I discussing the action of "this individual" as you put it. (What's wrong, too passive aggressive to actually use his name?) "This individual" is a big boy and can speak for himself.
My post stands as a completely accurate correction on an inaccurate metaphor.
Of course it's a matter of degree. I've read enough vortex to understand that his degree is zero. No one should ever say anything to him he doesn't like, ever. If they do they are wrong and he doesn't respect them. If he asks that someone not speak to him, they should stop, period. He is the center of the universe.
As far as your judgment as to what is harassment. The vast, vast, vast majority don't agree with you and have no problem with it. 10 people may come in here and agree with you, so what. The complainers are always the vocal ones. A small group of low self esteem, self appointed priests of propriety.
So back to my point. 3 or 4 out of 11 players (on both sides) in a football game will talk smack EVERY play. Is that harassment? One thing is for sure, if the center started crying and the QB got so angry he slams his helmet on the ground, the smack talk would only increase. As it should.
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As far as your judgment as to what is harassment. The vast, vast, vast majority don't agree with you and have no problem with it. 10 people may come in here and agree with you, so what. The complainers are always the vocal ones. A small group of low self esteem, self appointed priests of propriety.
So back to my point. 3 or 4 out of 11 players (on both sides) in a football game will talk smack EVERY play. Is that harassment? One thing is for sure, if the center started crying and the QB got so angry he slams his helmet on the ground, the smack talk would only increase. As it should.
Many more people have a problem with it than you are aware of then. Again you make an attempt to insult anybody that's tired of it by refering to them as a small group with low self esteem. Maybe I grew up in a diferent era from you, but the bullies and loudmouths were always the ones with low self esteem in my life experiance. I've seen very few srong, confident, men that needed to belittle others to amuse themselves.
I played 11 years of organized football, and six years of organized rugby. Smack talk was rare , and if it happened nobody started crying or threw their helmet down as you mentioned. They either laughed at the foolish behavior or hit the guy so hard he was too busy trying to breath to talk trash.
One question for you. I'm far from worried about being too passive aggresive, but if Storch is a big boy as you say he is... Why are you doing his talking?
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Shifty,
Nowhere in my post was I discussing the action of "this individual" as you put it. (What's wrong, too passive aggressive to actually use his name?) "This individual" is a big boy and can speak for himself.
My post stands as a completely accurate correction on an inaccurate metaphor.
Of course it's a matter of degree. I've read enough vortex to understand that his degree is zero. No one should ever say anything to him he doesn't like, ever. If they do they are wrong and he doesn't respect them. If he asks that someone not speak to him, they should stop, period. He is the center of the universe.
As far as your judgment as to what is harassment. The vast, vast, vast majority don't agree with you and have no problem with it. 10 people may come in here and agree with you, so what. The complainers are always the vocal ones. A small group of low self esteem, self appointed priests of propriety.
So back to my point. 3 or 4 out of 11 players (on both sides) in a football game will talk smack EVERY play. Is that harassment? One thing is for sure, if the center started crying and the QB got so angry he slams his helmet on the ground, the smack talk would only increase. As it should.
I'll be one of those with low self esteem and back shifty on this. Constant, unprovoked, and intentional griefing should not be tolerated.
Venom
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I'll be one of those with low self esteem and back shifty on this. Constant, unprovoked, and intentional griefing should not be tolerated.
Venom
Seems most understand this.
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Guys... If anyone is such a problem in game, and that person won't quit harrassing, or belittling, then just S-Q-U-E-L-C-H said person.
All this bickering doesn't do any of us good... IMHO of course.
I know it is tough being the target of any negativity directed at you or your group, but if we just buckle down and hit squelch, the problem will eventually go away, or find a different audience.
:salute
note: I do not in any way shape or form condone what Storch and a few others do in the boards and in game. Personally, it detracts from the fun while I'm playing the game.
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ohhh noooo an attack of common sense!! I'm with odee on this one! let it go boys! :)
I will be giving you all an opportunity shortly to make a full-scale, no holds barred, verbal assault away from this forum if you'd like to participate. I'll let you know of the details later.
then you all can really blow off steam with no fear of repercussions.
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Storch is a big boy as you say he is... Why are you doing his talking?
Shifty, dude, wake up. I wasn't talking about Storch in the first post, pointed that out in the second post, and continued to not talk about Storch. I think your just deflecting perfect valid points of discussion.
Venom and me-too-boy say. "Constant, unprovoked, and intentional griefing should not be tolerated." I agree completely and if I saw anybody doing that I would join in the rebuke. I've read enough venom posts to understand that he too is zero tolerance. Nobody should say anything about him ever for any reason. He's not qualified to judge.
So you guys quit being wishy-washy. How much smack talk is ok? Spit it out. say something real.
If someone does too much, sure it can be a problem. If someone cannot deal with any, they too are a problem.
And Odee is of course completely correct. Anyone can be easily squelched, which further serves to demonstrate that there is something seriously wrong with the constant complainers. I don't feel like I'm responsible for providing their self-affirmation therapy. But what the heck, if it helps.
vortex, oceans, venom, and all you wusses that keep crying to Skuzzy repeat after me:
I'm Good Enough, I'm Smart Enough, and Doggone It, People Like Me!
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Shifty, dude, wake up. I wasn't talking about Storch in the first post, pointed that out in the second post, and continued to not talk about Storch. I think your just deflecting perfect valid points of discussion.
Venom and me-too-boy say. "Constant, unprovoked, and intentional griefing should not be tolerated." I agree completely and if I saw anybody doing that I would join in the rebuke. I've read enough venom posts to understand that he too is zero tolerance. Nobody should say anything about him ever for any reason. He's not qualified to judge.
So you guys quit being wishy-washy. How much smack talk is ok? Spit it out. say something real.
If someone does too much, sure it can be a problem. If someone cannot deal with any, they too are a problem.
And Odee is of course completely correct. Anyone can be easily squelched, which further serves to demonstrate that there is something seriously wrong with the constant complainers. I don't feel like I'm responsible for providing their self-affirmation therapy. But what the heck, if it helps.
vortex, oceans, venom, and all you wusses that keep crying to Skuzzy repeat after me:
I'm Good Enough, I'm Smart Enough, and Doggone It, People Like Me!
Lol. I'm Good Enough, I'm Smart Enough, and Doggone It, People Like Me! Hmmmm, I still have issues with griefing. I like the way JG54 squadron plays and splits up to play different sides. It can be a huge plus for AvA. Why not make an honest attempt to leave all the griefing at the door and then it would be a non-issue?
Squelch is an option and I will start using it again. I got out of practice. You will still have the new people coming in once the war starts so I stand by my statement that intentional, unprovoked, and consistent griefing should not be tolerated.
Venom
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Shifty, dude, wake up. I wasn't talking about Storch in the first post, pointed that out in the second post, and continued to not talk about Storch. I think your just deflecting perfect valid points of discussion.
Venom and me-too-boy say. "Constant, unprovoked, and intentional griefing should not be tolerated." I agree completely and if I saw anybody doing that I would join in the rebuke. I've read enough venom posts to understand that he too is zero tolerance. Nobody should say anything about him ever for any reason. He's not qualified to judge.
So you guys quit being wishy-washy. How much smack talk is ok? Spit it out. say something real.
If someone does too much, sure it can be a problem. If someone cannot deal with any, they too are a problem.
And Odee is of course completely correct. Anyone can be easily squelched, which further serves to demonstrate that there is something seriously wrong with the constant complainers. I don't feel like I'm responsible for providing their self-affirmation therapy. But what the heck, if it helps.
vortex, oceans, venom, and all you wusses that keep crying to Skuzzy repeat after me:
I'm Good Enough, I'm Smart Enough, and Doggone It, People Like Me!
Of course you weren't talking about him, you were defending his behavior by saying Vortex's opinion is dishonest. You continue to defend it anytime you refer to somebody that's tired of it as weak. Or they have something seriously wrong with them because they're tired of it. They are not the ones that go out of their way night after night to ruin other peoples enjoyment of the sim. The only problem they have is night after night they have to deal with somebody that lives to do just that. Squelch Storch. I agree it works like a charm. I hope they install perma squelch at some point because evidently the right for one person to display goonlike behavior regularly, is more important than other peoples right to be tired of it. It's very amusing how you say oceans, vortex, venom, and all the wussies out there need to remember...
I'm Good Enough, I'm Smart Enough, and Doggone It, People Like Me!
You really need to give those words of advice to your CO, maybe he won't be so insecure he has to act out for attention.
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*** A break in todays programming for these messages ***
Why are we doing this? Almost the entirety of this thread has been dedicated to storch. It's like driving on the road. You have courteous people who will pull over on the shoulder so that you may pass them. You also have people that will cut you off, using no blinker and giving you no idea they were about to squeeze into a space in between you and another vehicle barely the size of one vehicle length and flip you off doing it. Yes, it pisses you off. It's still just a game. I neither like nor dislike storch because I don't care when he begins the insults and/or trash talk.
Perception is reality.
Trash Talk
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/trash%20talk
Rude
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rude
If he has done something wrong, report it. My Grandpappy used to say if you can do something about it, do it; if not, don't waist your time worrying.
** Now back to your regularly scheduled programming**
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See Rule #4, #5
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because storchypoo needs all the attention he can get, you see ever since momma cut him off the teet(at the age of 7) he has needed all this attention and will do anything to get it including hurling weak insults at people who obviously cannot come up with anything any better so as to get them to respond and show him the attention his mommie never did. His real call sign should be SimilaC.
Well looks like the bottom of this barrel has been reached. :rolleyes:
I'm done Kong. there are issues, and then there are ISSUES.
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(1) Shifty your Storch obsessed, get help, I haven't talked about him yet and still won't.
(2) "you were defending his behavior by saying Vortex's opinion is dishonest" I didn't say his opinion was dishonest I said his metaphor was. He compared talking smack in a game to walking up to somebody on the street and insulting them, I compared talking smack in a game to ... well...to talking smack in a game. This doesn't defend anyone, just makes a good point.
(3) "you refer to somebody that's tired of it as weak. Or they have something seriously wrong with them because they're tired of it." I never said that. If you have to change my words to criticize them...Shame on you, that's dishonest and not very constructive.
You seem to think your some kind of expert judge on what behavior is ok. All hail great and all knowing Shifty. So please inform us as to how much smack talk is reasonable. Are you a zero tolerance guy, too?
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The blame game is really old and won't get you anywhere Kong. You should know better than that. Your posts are full of teenage mentality and it shows clearly to anyone old enough to understand.
Blaming other people for this and that, regardless of whether it's valid or not, does not make conversation progress. It has a negative effect and will turn any good conversation to s*i*. Diplomacy can't be your strong point, unless perhaps it's about killing the other guy. But I don't call that diplomacy, that's murder. Some people still insist however that killing is diplomacy, by definition, it's not. It's a total collapse of diplomatic relations, resulting in a regressive behaviour known to man since the dawn of time, and it's very childish.
For much the same reasons, we are not getting anywhere in this thread.
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All hail great and all knowing Shifty.
Hmm you seem Shifty obsessed. Sorry I'm spoken for.
1. I'm not zero tolerance on smack talk. Good natured smack talk is fun. We rarely see that.
2. I don't know what purpose the brand of smack talk we do see serves in a computer game, but if some of you have led such sheltered lives that you need to smack talk hiding behind a monitor to feel good about yourself. I suggest you go behave this way in public and see how long it is before you need a doctor.
3. Smack talk is one thing, belittling, and just flat out harassing people other is another. If you need somebody to show you the line between the two. I can't help you on a BBS, you've already missed an important lesson in life somewhere.
We seem to have this debate annually. One thing you never seem to grasp, is. This behavior isn't scarey, it doesn't frighten anybody, it's just annoying, childish, base level behavior. It adds nothing to the game, it adds nothing to whatever auroa the person doing it is trying to project. It's like a turd in the room, it's not going to hurt anybody, but it makes the place stink, and nobody wants to stick around.
But hey, as long as you're having fun. :aok
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Vortex, bless your heart, I read that 3 times and it still doesn't make any sense.
Just wondering, in your opinion, is it ever ok for someone to say something to you and about you that you don't wanna hear or don't like? I keep getting the impression that it's not about "too much" you can't deal with any.
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ok guys!! free for all, go to this address, www.ahgreenhearts.org/phpbb --sign in and have at it. its wide open, unmoderated. you can have a full on verbal Assault, no holds barred!! i dare ya! hehehehe by the way, have a nice weekend! :)
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Hmm you seem Shifty obsessed. Sorry I'm spoken for.
1. I'm not zero tolerance on smack talk. Good natured smack talk is fun. We rarely see that.
2. I don't know what purpose the brand of smack talk we do see serves in a computer game, but if some of you have led such sheltered lives that you need to smack talk hiding behind a monitor to feel good about yourself. I suggest you go behave this way in public and see how long it is before you need a doctor.
3. Smack talk is one thing, belittling, and just flat out harassing people other is another. If you need somebody to show you the line between the two. I can't help you on a BBS, you've already missed an important lesson in life somewhere.
Once again you speak as if your judgments and declarations define reality. You decide what's good natured. you decide what's harrasment, you decide what's belittling, and if I don't agree, you can't help me. My such arrogance.
Twice in this thread you have advocated physical assault as an appropriate response to hearing words you don't like. That's quite telling. There's a thread in the o'club about a man who was beat to half death for "disrespecting" someone. The man had told the beater to leave his underage daughter alone, the beater didn't like that so it was "disrespect". I understand your mindset but I don't condone it, maybe you missed an important lesson in life somewhere.
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ALRIGHT GUYS, THINK THIS SUBJECT HAS BEEN BEATEN "THOROUGHLY" TO DEATH. :rolleyes:
Lets more on to another "MORE INTERSTING" subject.
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:rofl :rofl :rofl
Thats a good one Jester. Lover that image.
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This behavior isn't scarey, it doesn't frighten anybody, it's just annoying, childish, base level behavior. It adds nothing to the game, it adds nothing to whatever auroa the person doing it is trying to project. It's like a turd in the room, it's not going to hurt anybody, but it makes the place stink, and nobody wants to stick around.
Now which behavior are you referring to the smack talk or the complaining. The smack talk is entertaining sometimes, the whining never is.
I'll remind you once more that your opinion does not constitute fact, just because you don't like something don't assume everybody else feels like you and be open minded enough to allow others to have a different opinion.
Since you think smack talking is so bad, how do you justify your smack talking: "childish, base, turd, harassing". Why is it ok for you to comment negatively on behavior but if someone else does it's "childish, base, turd, harassing". Kinda circular isn't it. Maybe it's ok for you to do it because of your position as the great decider of all that is right.
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whats "THOURGLY"?
it doesn't show up at dictionary.com :rofl
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Twice in this thread you have advocated physical assault as an appropriate response to hearing words you don't like. That's quite telling. There's a thread in the o'club about a man who was beat to half death for "disrespecting" someone. The man had told the beater to leave his underage daughter alone, the beater didn't like that so it was "disrespect". I understand your mindset but I don't condone it, maybe you missed an important lesson in life somewhere.
Man that was a lame try at twisting words. I never advocated physical assault, I pointed out that if you behave that way in public physical assault is probably what you'll reap. I'm not talking about hearing words I don't like. I'm talking about harassing people minding their own business. Much like the goons in the thread you're referring to. Those guys are a prime example of the smack talk mentality. They have to act aggressive and badass so everybody will fear them. The man and his daughter are minding their own business, and are attacked. Because these guys can do whatever they want whenever they want, and anybody that doesn't like their smack behavior gets smacked down. Another lame attempt trying to project that kind of behavior and mentality on me. You're really reaching now, you should give it up. You have no idea of my mindset, other than nobody including myself has to defend my behavior in the arenas or in public.
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Nobody including myself has to defend my behavior in the arenas or in public either. What's your point?
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One thing that will not be tolerated is attacking other players of the community who are not even part of this discussion. Happens again and people will get banned form this board. Get over it!