Aces High Bulletin Board
Help and Support Forums => Technical Support => Topic started by: toadkill on July 20, 2008, 10:48:44 PM
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So it seems that Randomly my game will freeze up at least 4-5 times a week. It never seems to happen while doing the same thing, this last time i was trying to start recording film. And another time i remember i was switching to an external view of a formation of buffs. It always seems to zoom in on the top left side of my screen for some reason. I don't know what this could mean, But i do recall that it has happened in the past when a Sound driver feature, "Audio ESP" has engaged. My MoBo is Asus, and it has built in SoundMax audio. I am also running an AMD processor, but have installed the needed fixes. If need be i can post my DxDiag, but so as not to spam a large text body if not needed I have left it out.
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Toad,
check my post in forums here is the link
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,241726.0.html
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See the thing is I use FS Auto start, and i doubt this computer, that plays Crysis on High wtih 30-40 fps needs hardware upgrades to handle AH.
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See the thing is I use FS Auto start, and i doubt this computer, that plays Crysis on High wtih 30-40 fps needs hardware upgrades to handle AH.
Skuzzy was pointing out that if Aces hard the same eye candy that Crysis, or CoD has you would need a cray to run it. A flight sim type game has a huge draw on the CPU. If it spending time doing other crap...like all the fancy stuff the Vista added, it can't run the game well. That's why you have to tweak it to play Aces.
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Lockups are usually driver related. Many of the Vista drivers are really very buggy. NVidia's early Vista drivers were absolutely horrible.
A DXDIAG output would be helpful.
Games that are video centric tend to place less strain on the CPU so they can run the video and move the stress to the video. Any decent flight simulator will always require far more CPU power than a first person shooter due to the physics involved with flight modeling. There are many other things I could comment on, but they really are not germaine to the discussion.
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Ths for any help Skuzz. If you need more say so. don't know what the bottom is used for, so didnt know if it was relevant.
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System Information
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Time of this report: 7/21/2008, 16:40:22
Machine name: AGARWAEN
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp.080413-2111)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: System manufacturer
System Model: System Product Name
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5000+, MMX, 3DNow (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
Memory: 2046MB RAM
Page File: 297MB used, 3642MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.5512 32bit Unicode
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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: The file nv4_disp.dll is not digitally signed, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL). You may be able to get a WHQL logo'd driver from the hardware manufacturer.
Sound Tab 1: DirectSound test results: All tests were successful.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.
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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)
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Display Devices
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Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 512 (Omega 2.169.21)
Manufacturer: NVIDIA (Omega 2.169.21)
Chip type: GeForce 8800 GTS 512
DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0600&SUBSYS_C8423842&REV_A2
Display Memory: 512.0 MB
Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0011.6921 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 12/5/2007 00:41:00, 5773568 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: No
WHQL Date Stamp: None
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
Mini VDD Date: 12/5/2007 00:41:00, 7435392 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4540-11CF-FB40-49E803C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x10DE
Device ID: 0x0600
SubSys ID: 0xC8423842
Revision ID: 0x00A2
Revision ID: 0x00A2
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
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Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run
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Sound Devices
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Description: SoundMAX HD Audio
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_11D4&DEV_198B&SUBSYS_104381F6&REV_1004
Manufacturer ID: 65535
Product ID: 65535
Type: WDM
Driver Name: ADIHdAud.sys
Driver Version: 5.10.0001.6110 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 1/16/2007 09:09:06, 293888 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: AnalogDevices
HW Accel Level: Standard
Cap Flags: 0xF5F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 192000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 33, 32
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 33, 32
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: All tests were successful.
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Sound Capture Devices
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Description: SoundMAX HD Audio
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: ADIHdAud.sys
Driver Version: 5.10.0001.6110 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 1/16/2007 09:09:06, 293888 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x41
Format Flags: 0xCCC
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DirectMusic
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DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
Acceleration: n/a
Ports: Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Registry: OK
Test Result: Not run
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DirectInput Devices
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Device Name: Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a
Device Name: Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a
Device Name: Saitek Magic Hotkey Device
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x06A3, 0x5081
FF Driver: n/a
Device Name: Microsoft Wireless Optical Mouse® 1.00
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x00E1
FF Driver: n/a
Device Name: Saitek ST290 Pro
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x1
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FF Driver: n/a
Device Name: Saitek Eclipse II Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
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FF Driver: n/a
Device Name: Saitek Eclipse II Keyboard
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Controller ID: 0x0
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FF Driver: n/a
Device Name: Saitek Eclipse II Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x06A3, 0x8021
FF Driver: n/a
Device Name: Saitek Eclipse II Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x06A3, 0x8021
FF Driver: n/a
Device Name: Saitek Pro Gamer Command Unit
Attached: 1
Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x06A3, 0x80C0
FF Driver: n/a
Poll w/ Interrupt: No
Registry: OK
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Might consider upgrading that video card driver as the 1xx.xx series drivers has suffered a lot of problems.
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That was the latest Omega driver, I've updated to normal Nvidia drivers, we'll see how it plays out.
:salute Skuzz
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Well. That didn't work Froze up again.
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Ok, time to get your definitaion of "freeze" up. Please describe it in detail. Does it require a hard reboot to get the computer back?
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Ok then. The game video and audio both lock up, audio continues to play the same sounds as when it froze. Alt+F4 will NOT close the game. Alt+Tab will NOT minimize the game. Sometimes the Win-key will bring up my task bar, but i cannot click on anything or even see my mouse pointer. Ctrl+Alt+Del does NOT bring up the Task Manager, or i cannot see it. I can using keyboard commands switch users log off, shutdown, or restart. Usually to fix the problem fastest is to switch users, and relog into my account of my computer. After i do that I can Ctrl+Alt+Del to bring up the task manager, and can kill AH from there.
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I've had that sort of freeze-up in the past when my antivirus (or firewall, they're both Norton) have popped-up windows asking whether aceshigh.exe can connect to the internet...and yes, those things are extremely annoying to get rid of.
I've found that a way to get out of them is to have another window open when you start up AH, so for example task manager, or notepad.
<S>
Yossarian
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Toad since u play crysis do you have anything overclocked on your video card or cpu? I did and I was freezing on aces high had to lower clock speeds and frequencies
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I shut down my AV and dont have a system firewall because I'm on a home network. And nothing is overclocked, just have my fan speed on my card cranked up so it doesn't run at 55c+ idle.
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I have the same exact problems when I'm playing. The same exact symptoms. Skuzzy, I'll PM you my dxdiag. It happens frequently. Not to blame it on the new patch but it seemed to have started with the new patch. Please throw me a life line.
S1n1ster
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Perhaps a clue to what could be going on. Recently when i start up the game the clipboard acts like I haven't installed the Fix for Multicore AMDs. But i have installed all fixes listed in the sticky at the top of this forum.
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Toad, on board sound bad! Also check your sound acceleration. It should be set at 3/4.
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It is set at 3/4, and i was going to buy a sound card, but didn' have any problems that seemed to stem from it so i just kept it.
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You know. I just was looking at other stuff in here, trying to help out. and figured to run a ping plot. I only rarely get discoed so never figured to do one.
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t138/toadflak/untitled.jpg)
Anyone see a problem?...... ugh.........
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Hmm, that is interesting. Do you have a router, or are you directly connected to your ISP's network? The second hop looks pretty ugly. It is a NAT router. If that is your personal router, I would suggest turning off the power, let it set for about a minute, then turn it back on again.
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Only Hop 1 is my personal router. I'll reset it. and see what happens, then I'll remove it completely and see.
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Still no real change
(http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t138/toadflak/untitled-3.jpg)
Should i contact my ISP about this? or is it something i just have to accept
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If that is without the router, then yes, you need to contact your ISP about this.
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Recently I reloaded my OS partition. Was suprised at the constant lockups I got in AH. I've got a seperate partition for AH and even reloaded AH to no avail.
I started changing my drivers for vid and audio cards but was limited to audio drivers for my Creative XFI Gamer Extream card to those on the Creative site which are beta drivers. Finaly out of frustration, and lockups every time I tried to run AH, I searched for some older sound drivers. Problem solved!
Haven't had a lockup in two weeks and the game runs like I expected it to after an OS reload.
My vid card, a GeForce 6800 GT runs better with old 84.66 drivers than the new ones nVidia offers also.
Just a thought, drivers can be the root cause of a lot of lockup issues.
Edit to add, didn't read the entire thread, seems Skuzzy has ID'd some other prob. Still, driver issues are a pain in the tush.
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I have the exact same problem as Toadkill.
The will randomly freeze and there is not a thing I can do about it besides hit the reset button.
One odd thing I noticed was that I too have an ASUS motherboard that uses Soundmax.
I am running the sound out of a separate sound card. M-Audio 5.1 Revolution.
I disable the on board sound through BIOS.
I also read that possible anti virus software may be to blame.
I turned off my Avira and sure enough, it froze again.
When it freezes the screen gets a little dimmer and the clip board acts weird.
Most of these freezes happen when I am in the hanger.
I have had the same problem flying and in the tower as well, the hanger is just more frequent.
All my drivers are up to date as of last week so I don't think it's a driver issue.
If need be I too can post my DxDiag. I will also take pictures (with a camera since the computer freezes and doing a screen shot would do nothing) if they would be helpful to understand what I am talking about.
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What operating system and CPU does your computer have on it? The symptoms you are describing sound familiar.
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Windows XP with Service Pack 3.
AMD Dual-Core +6400 3.4 Ghz per CPU.
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I thought so. Do you run the game with the compatibility mode set to "Windows 98/ME"? Or did you install all the patches from AMD? Or have you done both?
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How do I go about finding the option to set the compatibility mode?
Yes, I downloaded the most recent drivers from AMD's website.
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Right-click on the Aces High II startup ICON, then select "Properties", then select the "Compatibility" tab, check the option to run the application in compatibility mode and set the mode to "Windows 98/ME".
My bet is you are missing the patch from Microsoft for dual core issues and you did not get the right dual core patch from AMD.
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Alright, set compatibility and installed a patch from Windows dealing with dual core issues.
Will reply if it freezes again.