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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: AKIron on July 21, 2008, 12:47:15 PM
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Here's one reason I really begrudge paying my taxes. A terrorist nuke in downtown San Francisco would be the epitome of irony.
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Beautiful city. If they used a neutron bomb, the rest of us might just let them off with a warning.
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Beautiful city. If they used a neutron bomb, the rest of us might just let them off with a warning.
:aok
if the terrorists nuke a blue city let it be San Fransicko
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I'm sure the feds can put pressure on San Fran's mayor to get him to change his mind about flaunting the law simply because he doesn't agree with it.
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:aok
if the terrorists nuke a blue city let it be San Fransicko
As long as they hit Berkley at the same time.
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Wow, you guys are worse than I am. I fully expected to get flamed BIG TIME. :D
When I was there a few years ago, a local told me how the city actually paid the homeless something like $400 a month if you could prove you're homeless. :huh What do you do to qualify, not show them your drivers license, or the keys to your Lexus? :rofl Boggles the mind.
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The solution is really simple. Hold every San Francisco councilman and politician criminally and financially responsible for everything an illegal alien does within the city limits of San Francisco.
If an illegal robs the bank for $10,000, every politician that has made San Francisco a sanctuary city will owe the bank $10,000. Each.
If an illegal murders someone, that representative will ALSO stand trial right next to the illegal for murder.
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Last time I read.....Federal Law supersedes State law. I would assume State law also supersedes local law.
Maybe the Dept.of the Interior and DOT can withold funds.
These are the same people who would not let Berkley Fire Depts. display an american flag just after 9/11.
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Berkeley / San Francisco are in fact different cities Hajo so i'm not sure how they would have stopped firefighters in Berkeley :) (j/k)
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Last time I read.....Federal Law supersedes State law. I would assume State law also supersedes local law.
Maybe the Dept.of the Interior and DOT can withold funds.
These are the same people who would not let Berkley Fire Depts. display an american flag just after 9/11.
The Feds and State could also press charges for violations of the law no?
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I know in the past states have cecceded from the Union, (Civil War) but I wonder if there are any provisions to kicking a state out of the Union. I'd be all for getting rid of California, and seeing if Puerto Rico or Guam want to take their place.
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I know in the past states have cecceded from the Union, (Civil War) but I wonder if there are any provisions to kicking a state out of the Union. I'd be all for getting rid of California, and seeing if Puerto Rico or Guam want to take their place.
Now that would be funny. Vote California off the island. :aok
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Bwahahahaha... sure... if you guys want to get rid of the 5th largest economy in the world and all that tax revenue go right ahead :rofl
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Bwahahahaha... sure... if you guys want to get rid of the 5th largest economy in the world and all that tax revenue go right ahead :rofl
Considering ALL the money we would save by not having to pay for ALL their social programs like housing, feeding, schooling, and giving medical care to all the illegals they let in their state we would probably come out ahead on the deal.
Just not seeing a downside right now.
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Bwahahahaha... sure... if you guys want to get rid of the 5th largest economy in the world and all that tax revenue go right ahead :rofl
It's a huge drain in federal resources and operates in the red... by all means, cut it loose.
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I know in the past states have cecceded from the Union, (Civil War) but I wonder if there are any provisions to kicking a state out of the Union. I'd be all for getting rid of California, and seeing if Puerto Rico or Guam want to take their place.
:rofl
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Ugh..
Ok no more talk of nukes or big earthquakes eh? I'd miss shooting you guys down all the time.. :aok
The politics here are somewhat crazy, yes, :noid but I don't pay much attention to it.
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The politics here are somewhat crazy, yes, but I don't pay much attention to it.
No disrespect to you sir, but, this is exactly the problem with this country today. People not paying attention and not speaking out against the injustices that are occuring. An then when something occurs that is totally beyond comprehension, we expect the government to do soemthing. Try being proactive and making your voice heard.
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Wow, the Wingnut Taliban are well represented in this thread.
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No disrespect to you sir, but, this is exactly the problem with this country today. People not paying attention and not speaking out against the injustices that are occuring. An then when something occurs that is totally beyond comprehension, we expect the government to do soemthing. Try being proactive and making your voice heard.
Also no disrespect for asking this, but what are you doing to make your voice heard?? What are you out speaking against? Just curious..
I go to my polling location every chance I get and I vote accordingly..
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Wow, the Wingnut Taliban are well represented in this thread.
There's a name for creatures in the animal kingdom they live off the work of others contributing nothing in return, it's leech. Applies to many in this divided country of ours.
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There's a name for creatures in the animal kingdom they live off the work of others contributing nothing in return, it's leech. Applies to many in this divided country of ours.
Oh I'm sure some of the anti-American right-wing terrorism supporters in this thread work hard. It's just the part where they pray for the deaths of their countrymen that concerns me.
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Oh I'm sure some of the anti-American right-wing terrorism supporters in this thread work hard. It's just the part where they pray for the deaths of their countrymen that concerns me.
Yawn..
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Wow, did some multicultural wackos move from Europe to sisco to spread the damned multiculturalism across the pond too? :furious
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Oh I'm sure some of the anti-American right-wing terrorism supporters in this thread work hard. It's just the part where they pray for the deaths of their countrymen that concerns me.
I don't think anyone is praying for anyone to die here, just that some would be missed less than others. If someone has to die in more terrorists attacks it would seem only just that it be those who thwart the efforts of those who would uphold the law trying to protect them from invaders. Of course this life isn't just.
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It's a huge drain in federal resources and operates in the red.
Could you be more wrong? (http://www.calinst.org/pubs/balance2003.htm)
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I don't think anyone is praying for anyone to die here, just that some would be missed less than others. If someone has to die in more terrorists attacks it would seem only just that it be those who thwart the efforts of those who would uphold the law trying to protect them from invaders. Of course this life isn't just.
I guess I didn't understand the "leech" comment then.
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Related Story?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,387722,00.html
A San Francisco woman whose husband and two sons were gunned down last month — allegedly by an illegal immigrant who remained in the city despite previous crimes — is demanding the city do something about its sanctuary law.
Danielle Bologna was widowed on June 22 when Edwin Ramos, 21, an illegal immigrant from El Salvador, allegedly gunned down her husband, Anthony, and two sons, Matthew and Michael, in a road rage incident when her family was returning from a picnic.
Ramos has been charged with three counts of murder in the case, according to the San Francisco Chronicle.
"It was a senseless crime, and had they done something this animal would not have taken my family," Bologna told FOX News on Monday. "I feel that the government should have stepped in. I feel that they allow these immigrants to come in and how dare they strip our families like this."
The Chronicle reported that Ramos was convicted of two gang-related felonies while a juvenile and remained in San Francisco because the Juvenile Probation Department did not alert federal authorities. San Francisco's 1989 "City of Refuge" ordinance prohibits city agencies from contacting the feds on immigration matters.
The newspaper also found that federal officials knew about Ramos' immigration status in March when he was arrested on a gun charge, though they couldn't tell the Chronicle why they didn't put an immigration hold on Ramos.
things that make you go hmmmm....
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xNOVAx
I too vote regularly in hometown and national elections. I also sen e-mails regularly to my state and national congressman. Not that they ever read them. After a little reflection, not that they listen to their constituants at all. Both sides not just one. From your first statement, did not get the impression that you voted at all. Sorry for that.
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She should sue the bastards (Newsom and the rest of the city supervisors) personally. After all they are committing a fed crime.
If they are allowed to pick and choose which laws they like and obey, and which ones they don't, I and everybody else should be allowed this "right" as well.
This is madness.
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I thought assertion of state and local rights were core conservative values?
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I thought assertion of state and local rights were core conservative values?
Sorry, it was state law prohibiting gay marriage that San Franciso (and the rest of the state) threw out. They don't get to have it both ways. Then again, maybe they do, for a while.
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I thought assertion of state and local rights were core conservative values?
they are, but you see.. it's all or nothing. We either screw the feds with ALL their laws, or we obey them all.
You can't pick and choose.
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I guess I didn't understand the "leech" comment then.
In this case it's those who enjoy freedom but out of ignorance or stupidity do nothing to perpetuate it themselves. Janice Joplin didn't have a clue. Freedom defintely is not free.
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I don't see the problem. Shouldn't the "Federales" be guarding the border? Why should a local municipality have to perform border patrol duties?
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In this case it's those who enjoy freedom but out of ignorance or stupidity do nothing to perpetuate it themselves. Janice Joplin didn't have a clue. Freedom defintely is not free.
San Francisco is perpetuating freedom by refusing to enforce unjust laws imposed by a corrupt empire based 3,000 miles away and completely out of touch with reality.
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San Francisco is perpetuating freedom by refusing to enforce unjust laws imposed by a corrupt empire based 3,000 miles away and completely out of touch with reality.
Some Kalifornians are illegally imposing their will on the rest. Sounds more like a dictatorship than a democracy to me.
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I also sen e-mails regularly to my state and national congressman. Not that they ever read them.
Precicely why I choose not to pay much attention or worry too much about these things.. More often than not, one person's voice of sense and reason dosn't hold much weight when competing against the masses or politicians that don't give a damn..
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San Francisco is perpetuating freedom by refusing to enforce unjust laws imposed by a corrupt empire based 3,000 miles away and completely out of touch with reality.
Unjust laws? Care to elaborate?
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She should sue the bastards (Newsom and the rest of the city supervisors) personally. After all they are committing a fed crime.
If they are allowed to pick and choose which laws they like and obey, and which ones they don't, I and everybody else should be allowed this "right" as well.
This is madness.
But don't you see the obvious retort they will have?
they will assure to only keep "the good ones"
<S> thank you for seeing that side and being as disgusted as I am.
There are only 7 states I have never visited, Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, and California. I have officially crossed off 1 of them as I will never bother to visit, and they will never earn a single tourist $ from me to support those commies.
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San Francisco is perpetuating freedom by refusing to enforce unjust laws imposed by a corrupt empire based 3,000 miles away and completely out of touch with reality.
well if the city feels that way they can give back all the federal funds given to them by the corrupt empire. If they don't wish to pay any more federal taxes they can fix their own highways and bridges. There schools can teach whatever they want with out federal funds.
San Franscisco isn't perpetuating freedom at all.
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They disagree with a law, and they have a right to protest. I'm cool with that. Yet even i think it's bs for the city to pick and choose like that - Keep in mind I'm so left I'm practically the mutant spawn of Che Guevera and Caesar Chavez.
On the flip side... As an allied health provider i completely support the idea of not reporting illegals seeking health care, etc. I do this for two reasons, 1) I don't think people should suffer, and 2) Doing so only causes serious injury and increases health care expenditures down the road, because folks will avoid getting help when something is relatively easy to treat for fear of deportation and wait till they get so sick that it becomes a catastrophic illness/expense that tax payers and insurance subscribers will end up covering later on anyway.
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...On the flip side... As an allied health provider i completely support the idea of not reporting illegals seeking health care, etc.
What about seeking care of a gunshot wound?
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I'm sure the feds can put pressure on San Fran's mayor to get him to change his mind about flaunting the law simply because he doesn't agree with it.
But will they?
Do they have the will to do so?
THATS the $1,000,000 question.
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Here's one reason I really begrudge paying my taxes. A terrorist nuke in downtown San Francisco would be the epitome of irony.
Ehh.... Let San Francisco have all the illegals.... They can give them welfare with the states or city's tax dollars and they can cause 90% of the crime there.... :rolleyes:
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Senators and Congressman from the state should not be recognized or allowed to be seated until they (as a state) can abide by the laws of the country and Constitution. Goodbye Pelosi!
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<singing> "if you'r goin to san fran sisco, be sure to wear some flowers in your hair."
don't worry to much about Cal, it will soon be part of greater mexico, (atzlan)
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59funkyman..
I have always wondered.. do you think it is the air that you breath in frisco.. or the water maybe.. or, are you just naturally that out of touch with reality and so were attracted to frisco as a place to live?
I have a brother who lives there and the latter is the case with him.. he was never quite right.
lazs
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San Francisco is perpetuating freedom by refusing to enforce unjust laws imposed by a corrupt empire based 3,000 miles away and completely out of touch with reality.
I was hoping to see this elaborated on.
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Could you be more wrong? (http://www.calinst.org/pubs/balance2003.htm)
Could you have your heard farther up your colon?
You are only speaking on tax dollars, a narrow scope. Look up things like medicare expenditures and other doles.
You might not like it, but the economy in Californis is a mess. Do you deny this?
Here's some more interesting articles. I'll post the titles, let me know if you want links.
California's 2008 Business Tax Climate Ranks 47th
California's Top Individual Income Tax Rate is the Highest in the Nation
California's Corporate Income Tax Rate is the Highest in the West
California's Sales Tax Rate Exceeds National Median; Gas Tax Highest in Nation
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Ehh.... Let San Francisco have all the illegals.... They can give them welfare with the states or city's tax dollars and they can cause 90% of the crime there.... :rolleyes:
lmao... you have got to be the most bitter 15 year old in the world :rock :)