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Title: 7/21/08
Post by: Dichotomy on July 21, 2008, 09:55:08 PM
Couldn't stay long and thanks to Oldman rapidly teaching me the 'turn it around and takeoff downhill trick' as soon as he saw me.  I like the setup but I hate the ack.. nothing new there :D

Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: captain1ma on July 22, 2008, 07:02:47 AM
i just wish the fights werent so far away. i spent more time trying to get there. :)

Oldbull. sorry for sneaking up on you and blasting your drones. good thing slipknt was there to help.  :D
Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: Chemdawg on July 22, 2008, 07:15:20 AM
LOL...he told me he upped and then went to take care of some stuff, came back, and his drones were gone and he was leakin :rofl
Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: Virage on July 22, 2008, 08:57:40 AM
JG11 was there in decent numbers from 9-10 est.  The place was dead with only 2 allied players upping from a cv.

The long flight times are putting players off.  Notice the MA has a 1 to 1.5 sector range between bases? 

How about giving the Allies some bases on the mainland just to encourage a fight?

JG11 squad night is tonight.  We will check out the AVA but if nothing is going on it will be to the MA for us.
Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: Shifty on July 22, 2008, 09:23:28 AM
49th will be there tonight as well Vater.
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Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: VonMessa on July 22, 2008, 09:30:59 AM
Just a thought. 

How about disabling manned guns on CV (including 5")

I know the auto-ack is cranked waaaaay down which helps in a fight when guys try to run to ack, which is great.  Raising the auto ack from 3k to 5k would be great, also

But... getting involved in a really good fight for 2-3, knuckle whitening minutes, only to get sniped by someone sitting in the 5"ers is very disheartening.

To balance it out, up the hardness of the CV's.

OR....

Could the Axis PLEEAAAASSSSEEE have some carrier based aircraft?
Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: Shifty on July 22, 2008, 09:36:22 AM
Could the Axis PLEEAAAASSSSEEE have some carrier based aircraft?

Yes, grab a Zeke an die a glorius death for the empire.  :aok
Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: VonMessa on July 22, 2008, 09:41:24 AM
Yes, grab a Zeke an die a glorius death for the empire.  :aok

Better than racing an Osti or M-16 off the deck to see who can make the biggest splash.  :rofl
Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: Oldman731 on July 22, 2008, 09:49:13 AM
The long flight times are putting players off.  Notice the MA has a 1 to 1.5 sector range between bases? 

...er...I'm missing something here (nothing new about that).  The carrier fleets are literally right off the Japanese coast; my time to the fights last night was never more than three minutes or so.  The aircraft bases are actually much closer together.

- oldman
Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: Shifty on July 22, 2008, 09:59:14 AM
Better than racing an Osti or M-16 off the deck to see who can make the biggest splash.  :rofl

I've made some huge splashes with the Corsair Sunday.

OM is right of course, this map is way too small to allow both side to have land bases on Japan.  ;)
Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: Slash27 on July 22, 2008, 10:07:25 AM
Just a thought. 

How about disabling manned guns on CV (including 5")

I know the auto-ack is cranked waaaaay down which helps in a fight when guys try to run to ack, which is great.  Raising the auto ack from 3k to 5k would be great, also


We can't disable manned guns and I really do not think we can adjust the alt on puff ack. I would love to be proven wrong on both trust me.
Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: captain1ma on July 22, 2008, 10:14:32 AM
i like 5 inch guns, my victims are endless!  :)
Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: whiteman on July 22, 2008, 10:54:42 AM
Had a good time last night, really like this map. Jaeger you could have killed me if you would have came around for one more turn, i came in to hot was trying to turn with you anyways.
Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: captain1ma on July 22, 2008, 11:03:13 AM
hahaha i was blacked out when you got me, too many G's! sorry man, meant to salute you but it was bedtime and i was agravated for being stupid. thanks for a great fight anyway though! always a pleasure doing business with you!  :)
Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: whiteman on July 22, 2008, 11:05:33 AM
LOL, so i wasn't the only trying to pull to many G's. oh well, figured you had to log off. <S>
Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: VonMessa on July 22, 2008, 11:52:11 AM
We can't disable manned guns and I really do not think we can adjust the alt on puff ack. I would love to be proven wrong on both trust me.


     To add to all of that.........

I don't want this taken as a whine.  Trust me, if I plan on whining, it will be well thought out, researched, and posted in such a long fashion that it will put you to sleep.


For a "free for all" type arena (which it is right now?) to just have some fun until the next setup, it really blows to be sniped by 5" guns in the middle of a good fight.  Especially, when the habit is (on both sides here, not pointing fingers) to stay near the ack, which is only a natural reaction.  Also to dodge puffy ack when fighting above 3K is also a bit annoying.  I know the inherent risks involved with chasing someone into he ack, but to be singled out by some yahoo in a 5" gun (some of whom I have never even seen take to the air) is silly.

     If this were a situation where there were objectives, or a plan, and CV's were part of the plan, then I wouldn't even be mentioning it.

Conversely, I am as equally pissed if a friendly does the same thing to someone that I am fighting.

I know that there is a DA for this, blah blah blah, but the caliber of the fights in the AvA has traditionally always been a bit higher.
Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: Slash27 on July 22, 2008, 12:01:04 PM
I don't disagree a bit Von.
Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: Dichotomy on July 22, 2008, 12:32:56 PM
Von I agree with you but what if some random guy is vulching a field or a CV?  Is it okay to jump into a gun position and dispatch them then? 

I know what you're saying and believe me I'm not trying to stir up a bunch of nonsense that's not needed just asking what the general consensus is.
Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: Slash27 on July 22, 2008, 12:38:53 PM
Von I agree with you but what if some random guy is vulching a field or a CV?  Is it okay to jump into a gun position and dispatch them then? 

I know what you're saying and believe me I'm not trying to stir up a bunch of nonsense that's not needed just asking what the general consensus is.


A bit different when you are talking 37mm AAA vs 5 inch proximity rounds. Even I can hit with the 5 incher :D
Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: Dichotomy on July 22, 2008, 12:43:39 PM
Fair point...

Meh, whatever, I'm having fun :D
Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: Shifty on July 22, 2008, 12:56:17 PM


A bit different when you are talking 37mm AAA vs 5 inch proximity rounds. Even I can hit with the 5 incher :D

That's not what your ...................... never mind :D
Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: VonMessa on July 22, 2008, 01:05:32 PM
Von I agree with you but what if some random guy is vulching a field or a CV?  Is it okay to jump into a gun position and dispatch them then? 

I know what you're saying and believe me I'm not trying to stir up a bunch of nonsense that's not needed just asking what the general consensus is.

Totally OK.   :aok

It's the guy sniping you (or my countryman sniping the other guy)  while we are enjoying ourselves in a good fight that I am talking about.  Especially when there aren't any objectives, per se, in the arena at the time.

Someone ruining a good fight for no reason except to ruin it is the best way I can describe it. 

Like pissing in someone's Cheerio's.
Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: Dichotomy on July 22, 2008, 01:15:22 PM
ty sir...

That would be the only time you'd see me in a gun position is if someone is vulching or attempting to torp the CV. 
Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: Slash27 on July 22, 2008, 01:18:18 PM
That's not what your ...................... never mind :D

Set myself up well didn't I? :D
Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: VonMessa on July 22, 2008, 01:20:54 PM
ty sir...

That would be the only time you'd see me in a gun position is if someone is vulching or attempting to torp the CV. 

Both plausible reasons.
Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: Virage on July 22, 2008, 01:50:21 PM
...er...I'm missing something here (nothing new about that).  The carrier fleets are literally right off the Japanese coast; my time to the fights last night was never more than three minutes or so.  The aircraft bases are actually much closer together.

- oldman

You are right oldman.. the 2 carriers I saw were just off the coast.  I assumed the rest were out to sea  after reading guys complain about long flight times.   sorry.  :o
Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: Shifty on July 22, 2008, 02:06:43 PM
Just the USAAF birds have long flight times Vater.

The Navy birds are near the coast.
Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: VonMessa on July 22, 2008, 03:06:00 PM
Just the USAAF birds have long flight times Vater.

The Navy birds are near the coast.

Quit looking at Vater's bird!

 :noid
Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: Oldman731 on July 23, 2008, 07:28:21 AM
OM is right of course, this map is way too small to allow both side to have land bases on Japan.  ;)

After thinking about it for awhile, it seemed to me that Shifty is correct.  The original ROF setup is historically accurate, but for ordinary playability purposes it effectively eliminates USAAF aircraft.  So far as I know, no one has ever organized an escorted bomber raid from one of the air starts, which was the original hope.

So:  Last night I got a few minutes, logged in, changed some of the mainland bases to Allied and logged out, dumping the problem squarely in the laps of Duke and Stampf.  What a guy, eh?  There's no base capture (except I still can't figure how A3 switched hands twice), so there shouldn't be any need to worry about off-hours porking.

Try it for a day, we can always change it back.

- oldman
Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: Shifty on July 23, 2008, 07:35:14 AM
After thinking about it for awhile, it seemed to me that Shifty is correct. 
- oldman

I wasn't trying to be right OM,I just trying to be a smarta**. Thanks for the changes. We'd be glad to escort a bombing raid. I think the Avengers and us are on different squadnights though.
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Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: Bear76 on July 23, 2008, 09:13:02 PM


 Even I can hit with the 5 incher :D
You're talkng about your sex life right?  :lol
Title: Re: 7/21/08
Post by: TheBug on July 23, 2008, 09:19:20 PM
You flying AvA again Bear?