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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: culero on July 22, 2008, 04:22:09 PM
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We have plenty of whiskey and weed. Bring your own beer :)
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woot woot (http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c135/007rusty/beers.gif) (http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c135/007rusty/bf109_mg.gif)
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dam looks like it's gonna miss san antonio. was hoping for some rain.
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Good luck bud! Batten down the hatches and all that!
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Roundup should take care of the weeds :D
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Check in once it's passed.
Cos if you don't I'll be rolling a large one and toasting ya.....
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Good luck man. Hope your power stays up. :aok
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Check in once it's passed.
Cos if you don't I'll be rolling a large one and toasting ya.....
:rofl
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Bahhh... winds only 74 MPH that only a summer breeze.. :D
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I agree that those wind speeds are not particularly bad, but any hurricane has the potential to spawn tornados and huge storm surge.
My biggest issue with this is that nobody has commented on the name...Dolly? I mean I got all kinds of grief over Fabian, and not one mention of this one named DOLLY?
You people are getting soft on me.
Culero...I hope the nipple...errr...the eye misses you.
;)
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Well looks like it's getting close to hitting good luck with the storm hope you don't get much damage. I've been through more than my share of Hurricanes so I know none of them are ever much fun.
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It bobbled a little to the north as it hit the coast, now looks like the storm center will pass about 15-20 miles to my north rather than 15-20 miles to my south (in Mexico) as predicted yesterday. That will mitigate the potential for wind damage here because that's ranch country - the mesquite trees can handle it :)
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Well it's the day after, how goes it? News here in Virginia shows that Padre Island got the crap beat out of it.
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There's a weather board I lurk on (http://stormboard.proboards79.com/index.cgi?) which is sort of a weather hobbyist/social club/ year long hurricane party.
Well two of the gurus over there decided to make hurricane Dolly their first storm chase. It interesting to watch how their adventure went very wrong. Yesterday morning they were giving storm reports on IPR radio (thats redundant?), and this morning they are are in a shelter, minus a car, waiting for their moms to come pick them up!
See, people never listen to that "don't try this at home" advice.
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Unless he's got access to a sattelite hookup I doubt we will hear from Culero for a while. Hope he rode it out ok.
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There's a weather board I lurk on (http://stormboard.proboards79.com/index.cgi?) which is sort of a weather hobbyist/social club/ year long hurricane party.
Well two of the gurus over there decided to make hurricane Dolly their first storm chase. It interesting to watch how their adventure went very wrong. Yesterday morning they were giving storm reports on IPR radio (thats redundant?), and this morning they are are in a shelter, minus a car, waiting for their moms to come pick them up!
See, people never listen to that "don't try this at home" advice.
Your link just goes to the main page of the forum.. so just tell us how did they lost their car.. :D
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Your link just goes to the main page of the forum.. so just tell us how did they lost their car.. :D
Storm surge! You have to look at the sub board about Dolly. I'll find a link to the post where they first discuss going to Brownsville.
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Ok, all good adventures start out with "hey, I got a idea!"
Jason says...
http://stormboard.proboards79.com/index.cgi?board=al042008&action=display&thread=2583&page=10#47437
Zack is a little bit reluctant (and its such a GOOD idea)
http://stormboard.proboards79.com/index.cgi?board=al042008&action=display&thread=2583&page=10#47444
Add little nudging from the crowd..
http://stormboard.proboards79.com/index.cgi?board=al042008&action=display&thread=2583&page=10#47450
http://stormboard.proboards79.com/index.cgi?board=al042008&action=display&thread=2583&page=13#47504
And its a go!!
http://stormboard.proboards79.com/index.cgi?board=al042008&action=display&thread=2583&page=17#47562
http://stormboard.proboards79.com/index.cgi?board=al042008&action=display&thread=2583&page=17#47565
http://stormboard.proboards79.com/index.cgi?board=al042008&action=display&thread=2583&page=19#47590
I mean what could go wrong? They've thought of everything...
http://stormboard.proboards79.com/index.cgi?board=al042008&action=display&thread=2583&page=19#47596
http://stormboard.proboards79.com/index.cgi?board=al042008&action=display&thread=2583&page=19#47599
Yup - GPS, Verizon card... gas - did anyone think of gas? Sure they thought of gas - haven't they?
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I'll post more links to the messages in the story but its a lot more fun to watch it play out on the board.
Here's a link to the sub board.
http://stormboard.proboards79.com/index.cgi?board=al042008
The trip starts in discussion thread #6 and plays out through discussion thread 7
The key players are Zack, tropicalwxwatcher (Jason) and Skysummit
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Here's a some wise advice after the fact...
from
http://stormboard.proboards79.com/index.cgi?board=al042008&action=display&thread=2600&page=19#48040
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I know Jason personally (just an acquaintance) and only know Zach from here....
I'm a very experienced chaser when it comes to both severe weather and tropical weather (5 hurricanes, 3 TSs)...So I feel I have a valid voice here.
This is from what I know from sources here in Mobile, AL....
Basically, they arrived in BRO around the time winds were approaching TS strength... they arrived with little gas and ran out. Had to abandon the car(s) due to flash flooding and had to be 'rescued', thereby tying up rescue personnel that could have been helping others.
It is my understanding that Jason has essentially no tropical chasing experience... riding out Katrina at his home or whatever does not count...
This was evident to me after hearing about them running out of gas and arriving so terribly late.
An experienced chaser knows to get into a rough position 24hours or more in advance of TS winds arriving. Arrive with plenty of gas... topping off on the way in every chance you get when you are approaching 3/4 full....Arriving early allows you to scout out strong buildings for taking shelter during the worst of the storm and having several scouted out in case a position adjustment becomes necessary. Strong shelter is necessary... What if this storm had pulled a Charley and rapidly intensified to a Cat 4 just prior to landfall? (Synoptic conditions were not favorable for that, but did these guys even think of the possibility?)
Now, I will say this, I am glad they are ok....
But, now Zack's mother has a long drive ahead, putting her at an unnecessary risk.
This is obviously a case where inexperience was the very cause of what could have been a potentially fatal excursion. There were a multitude of things they obviously did not think about... Were they aware that there is essentially nothing between CRP and BRO? They would have needed to fill up in corpus and bring enough auxiliary gas in the form of portable cans to get them in and back out at least to CRP.... I try to have enough gas when I get to the target area to be me back out past any TS watches along the coast plus some.
Also lack of knowledge of the local topography seems to be the case when they were trapped by flash flooding waters. this kind of thing must be researched out well ahead of time.
My first chase was hurricane Lili.... I chased with Jeff Gammons, and Chris Collura.... both Veteran Hurricane chasers.... I did this because I didn't want to end up in the situation that Zack and Jason are now in... If you don't know who Jeff and Chris are, google their names, find their sites and check out the chase logs.... many many years combined experience.
I stress this to any new chaser..... go with an experienced chaser first....
If I wouldn't have had a final tomorrow, it's possible I'd be down there and would not have hesitated to guide them along.
Guys, Jason and Zack, I'm glad you two are alive, but please know what you are doing before you put yourself in danger, potentially affecting reputation of GCWX and USA Meteorology....but even worse, potentially not making it out alive....
now you may ask, have I ever made a mistake chasing... YES! one nearly cost me my life as well. BUT I learned from it and won't make the same mistake twice... I sincerely hope y'all can do the same. If you really want to pursue the chasing hobby, do like any other hobby, hang out and do it with people with experience.
The following link goes to a thread posted by Chris Collura on Stormtrack and I consider this mandatory reading for anyone that is considering ANY tropical cyclone.
http://www.stormtrack.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6348
This post was not meant to be condescending or hateful..... it's simply an experienced chaser trying to offer his perspective on what happened.
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Unless he's got access to a sattelite hookup I doubt we will hear from Culero for a while. Hope he rode it out ok.
Yeah, damn inconvenience....lost electricity for 12 hours! Plus, it blew down a couple of my hibiscus bushes! :O
I gotta go to work, more later ;)
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Good to hear your ok ......... (http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c135/007rusty/discobanana.gif)
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Its ALIVE!
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Yeah, this was a sissy storm. Got to Cat 2 just before landfall. I'm about 60 miles inland from the coast, so it had degraded to barely hurrykane status by the time it passed by my place. It was a close enounter, though...
(http://home.rgv.rr.com/casamyers/eye.jpg)
Looks like about 15 miles from my place to the eyewall, 20 to storm center (the eye was tracking WNW at the time, this was closest approach). If it had been a stronger storm things mighta been dicey :)