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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Ripsnort on December 19, 2000, 07:40:00 PM
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yes, these posts were a troll to enlighten those who attack another A/C type that may threathen their rides.
Look, the F4U was porked in FM performance in V1.03. Laz, F4UDOA,and even Wells showed FACTS AND DATA that the F4U FM was porked. Myself and others showed proof (film)that the guns were OVERMODELED in V1.03. So, the result were modifcations by HTC to the FM and the guns. Now the FM is closer to what the numbers were historically, the guns were toned down...but yet we still have folks complaining about this plane with no facts or data like the afore mentioned provided in v1.03.
So, to sum it up, put up or shut up. Laz, Wells, F4UDOA, several others analysed this A/C in V1.03, showed the data...and got it corrected. By saying "it doesn't seem right, it zoomed right up and killed me" or "I got hit with one ping and I died!" or any other hearsay is as valid a a Dade county vote! Show proof. That gets results.
[This message has been edited by Ripsnort (edited 12-19-2000).]
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(http://members.home.net/torqs/eek2.gif) (http://members.home.net/torqs/rocketpotato.gif) Ah...and I flew it right from day one, all thru the bad days and never complained something must be wrong with me.
I am Canadian
[This message has been edited by Torque (edited 12-19-2000).]
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If HTC fixes the 1/2 wing flying I`ll shut up about the dweebC,until then expect to hear about it. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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True Holy War dude.
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Jihad, I respect your opinion.....But your an Okie, and everyone knows they can't tell the truth. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
wizzer
PS..Torque is that the front or rear that the 20s are coming out of?
[This message has been edited by wizzer (edited 12-19-2000).]
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Jihad,
Is it possible that the "1/2 wing" is merely a generic graphic representation of some unknown amount of wing damage?
In other words, while you see "1/2 a wing" the damage can be much less than that?
This has been discussed before. We really don't know the relationship between actual damage to the aircraft and what the graphics show.
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Jihad,
Is it possible that the "1/2 wing" is merely a generic graphic representation of some unknown amount of wing damage?
Good question,I don`t know how the damage model interacts with whats displayed-I DO know that on 2 of the few times I flew the dweebC I had a 1/2 wing and still managed to fly w/o much problem and got kills.
Try that in any other plane,you might land it but I doubt you will have the speed and maneuverabilty to escape being killed much less making kills.
If a plane loses 1/2 a wing it should be dead.
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I think Toad is right. Three graphics; whole, 1/2 and gone. The degrees of actual damage, however, seem alot more... ah.... variable. This applies to fuel/oil leaks as well.
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Alotta the AC in Aces can fly missing (at least graphically) 1/2 a wing, including the DHOG and the n1k, yet i don't see crying about that.
Seems like witchhunt to me..
AKskurj
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ok torq what part of a ho from hispanos killing a main battle tank do you not understand ?
the hispanos kill at 900 yards easily . and even the hispanos on other planes dont kill a tank as fast as a hog cs
hit for hit . you would know this if you could survive outside the dweeb mobile you pump your inflated ego with. the fact that
a hog c will kill a main battle tank from the front with one good burst. that is all you need there is plenty more but that is enough.
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Anyone have an air pump I'm deflating. Towd show me the film of this because I have never been able to kill a Panzer from the front on 1 or 2 or even 4 passes.
Jihad, I respect your opinion.....But your an Okie, and everyone knows they can't tell the truth
LOL Jihad you gonna take that, LOL Wizzer. Merry Xmas all. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
[This message has been edited by Torque (edited 12-20-2000).]
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Jihad, I respect your opinion.....But your an Okie, and everyone knows they can't tell the truth
LOL-but Oklahoma sure can play football! We kicked the sh*t outta you girls in the suburbs!<Texas=suburb of Oklahoma> (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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A note on the p-51,
have you ever noticed that in every thread that someone starts of whineing about the Stang within just a few posts the discussion ALWAYS turns tword the whoopee chog's Hispanos so its kinda obviuos what is "porked"
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Someone please activate TheWobble's sarcasm module. It must have been damaged during a crash landing.
-- Todd/DMF
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The reason the subject is always changed from the runstang.
A plane famous for running away from a fight is an imbarrassment to those who fly it. And for those who know those who fly it.
BTW torque had the same multi kill sortie,s, in the chog,in ver 1.03.
And FWIW I had the same average number of kills, in the NIK in ver. 1.03
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My sarcasm module as made by dell therefore it does not support OpenGl sarcasm, it is built on to me and only has 4mb of sarcastic mem, and can never be upgraded. sorry todd (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
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LOL-but Oklahoma sure can play football! We kicked the sh*t outta you girls in the suburbs!<Texas=suburb of Oklahoma>
What do you feed the boys down there, man you got some gigantic fediddleing football players and white guys too boot.
My sarcasm module as made by dell therefore it does not support OpenGl sarcasm, it is built on to me and only has 4mb of sarcastic mem, and can never be upgraded. sorry todd
@ first I thought you were a dorknut Wobble but now I see your a pretty hilarious Dude cheers.
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"dorknut"
that is such a creative word that it almost pains me to not be of such an interesting calibur.
Oh well, i just try to get along most of the time.
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You like norkdut better?
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Adding that Golly-geened thing to AcesHigh was the websters definition of stupid.
It is the most total BS gameing device ever invented in any online game.
WTG HTC!
Whats next?
Yeager
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*_YAWN_*
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***-Smack-***
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**poot**
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Yeager,
What was that you were saying about the F4C?
I think I might have missed your point in the 579 posts you have made on the subject. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Wonder if HT and Pyro have figured out your position yet?
...altogether now..
..inhale..hold..hold..hold..h old..exhale
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<shoots the horse and puts it 6 feet under> its dead damnit its DEAD! stop kicking it.
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It's quite dead Joe, but for some reason it's obviously too much enjoyment for some to continue beating the hell out of it with a solid steel baseball bat.
-SW
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Geeze yeager.... and people say that I"M tenacious and obnoxious! If I might suggest tho.... First, it helps to be right. Being wrong, as in your case, makes it doubly hard to gain allies. second, proof is good. Ovbviously, proof is harder to come by when you are wrong but... Keep digging. Lastly... honesty is a virtue in these things, you can't even lie to yourself. Hope I was of some help.
lazs
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Anyone see the new screen shot of the TBM dropping it's fish!! ??
(http://flightsim.thrustmaster.com/articles/images/acesinterview/ahss2.jpg)
-Westy
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The Pony, the Chog and the Torp are Uber!!!
Thank You and Goodnight
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YES GOOD IDEA!! THIS THREAD SHOULD BE SUNK, GOD BLESS THE AVENGER!!!!
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Is the arguement the hispanos kill at to great a range or just kill to quickly and therefore end the chronic stick stirring to soon and they don't have time to induce cart wheels with stick stirring before they are blown away, gun film footage I have watched shows pretty clearly what happens when you shoot another airplane with cannons or machine guns.
The quick kill just dampens everyones plans to soon, I think it adds realism, I mean did they used to use the fighters rear view key on the joystick until they saw flashes and then begin these crazy assed 10G moves or was it more positioning for a shot.
Getting hit is getting hit if you got away in one piece I guess you would be lucky and I have been shot down in the game by plenty of 50 and 30 cal. it just happens a split second slower than the cannons.
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Lazs,
Grab a Dhog and be somebody.
Yeager (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Pappy.. if the chog had 1/2 the ammo it does now, limiting its ability to spray and pray, then people would be picking on that other obviously porked plane the P51
And now for something completely different..
AKskurj
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Well, I certainly am in no position to argue the accuracy of any aircraft but I do think that the chog flight and gun characteristics are as close as is reasonable to expect from htc given the data they have. That being said, I think that aircraft hardness in ah is a bit off...too easily damaged. I think that in most cases a high speed head on shot, or high angle of attack, short burst snapshot should not be capable of blowing parts off of aircraft...especially whole tail sections. In short, I think the aircraft need to be harder.
CRASH
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Point 'n shoot. It's what we do!
Some guys like the pump.. (cannons)
Others like the spray. (MG's)
It don't matter tho. If it flies, it dies.
Uberness in a pony is altitude, victory is accuracy on that first pass... and then gettin out of sight of or above everybody else again.
Uberness in anything else is being aware of your degeree of vulnerability (any ponies around here above me?) and common sense in SA and ACM skills. Cannons are less important than ACM skill and are an issue for contention only amongst those pilots that prefer to stick around and dogfight.
Ya picks yer plane; u takes yer chances. Style dictates success.. fly a pony in turnfights, you WILL die. B&Z in a pony, stay fast; you MIGHT live. Hop inna dogfight with 6 other guys; yer gonna die. guarenteed. Just a matter of when. Don't matter what you fly then.. niki; chog; spit; yak.. It don't matter. You furball; you die.
Am I wrong?
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Hang
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Can't say it any better than that Hang!
Oh, and Easymo....
Quote:"A plane famous for running away from a fight is an imbarrassment to those who fly it. And for those who know those who fly it."
Life isn't fair little man...the sooner you realize that, the happier you'll be. And, if we ever meet in the virtual skies of AH, I look forward to running away from you (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Ltr
Ice