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Title: CV turn warning
Post by: Baitman on July 23, 2008, 03:25:08 PM
I seached this on the BBS and found a link http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,122255.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,122255.0.html) just though I would renew it and see what the general thoughs are though.

Title: Re: CV turn warning
Post by: Ghastly on July 23, 2008, 04:19:18 PM
 I give this a thumbs up. 
Title: Re: CV turn warning
Post by: Yossarian on July 23, 2008, 04:27:19 PM
Sounds good  :aok

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Yossarian
Title: Re: CV turn warning
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on July 23, 2008, 04:51:00 PM
:How to tell your carrier is turning, or dead.:

If horizon is passing by, the ship is turning.

If you look BEHIND YOU, you can see the ships tail wagging, look up for bombs.

If planes taking off ahead of you, hit the tower, or fall off, it is turning.

If you're feet become instantly wet, the cv just blew up under you, enjoy your swim.



All of the above can be used to aid your situation.
 
Title: Re: CV turn warning
Post by: toadkill on July 23, 2008, 04:59:52 PM
Any Pre-warning before the CV starts a turn would be impossible unless there was a delay before the CV started turning after the command was given. The game doesn't know if I'm about to turn the CV until i turn it, how can it warn before hand? If the CV is turning before you hit the deck and you don't know, your blind. And if a delay was added the CVs would be even easier to kill than now. Level bombers are already too accurate, why make it easier for them?

Just learn to take off without it on auto takeoff.
Title: Re: CV turn warning
Post by: NoBaddy on July 23, 2008, 05:04:24 PM
The simplest solution is to hit f5 and look BEFORE taking off.
Title: Re: CV turn warning
Post by: Bruv119 on July 24, 2008, 12:54:14 AM
do you look before crossing the road?

simple tap of the back hat switch or pan around.

if it starts kicking when your rolling down the deck a little rudder to compensate and get airborne asap.  Only other solution I can see is to clock up 100 hours of Carrier operations in the TA before your allowed to roll from one.

Title: Re: CV turn warning
Post by: lyric1 on July 24, 2008, 01:12:22 AM
Get foot pedals it is a lot easier to adjust on take off with a turning CV.
Title: Re: CV turn warning
Post by: moot on July 24, 2008, 02:40:14 AM
Make the ship tilt to the side..
Title: Re: CV turn warning
Post by: lyric1 on July 24, 2008, 02:45:58 AM
Make the ship tilt to the side..
Would be more realistic.... How ever could you imagine the moaning as the planes slide off the deck.
Title: Re: CV turn warning
Post by: Bruv119 on July 24, 2008, 02:46:44 AM
it'll work! 

*thinking of the added entertainment from the tower.
Title: Re: CV turn warning
Post by: lyric1 on July 24, 2008, 03:09:28 AM
it'll work! 

*thinking of the added entertainment from the tower.
The English are amused so easily. You know the more I think about it. :rock
Title: Re: CV turn warning
Post by: RTHolmes on July 24, 2008, 03:41:11 AM
good idea :aok

and for the "just use the rudder duh!" guys, yeah thats fine if you're upping a seafire with 50% fuel to furball with, doesn't help if you're upping a fully armed and fuelled JABO which can barely make it off the deck with just a little rudder trim. could be why you usually get 15 uppers with no ords when theres 2 SBs, a VH and loads of GVs still up...
Title: Re: CV turn warning
Post by: lyric1 on July 24, 2008, 03:57:30 AM
good idea :aok

and for the "just use the rudder duh!" guys, yeah thats fine if you're upping a seafire with 50% fuel to furball with, doesn't help if you're upping a fully armed and fuelled JABO which can barely make it off the deck with just a little rudder trim. could be why you usually get 15 uppers with no ords when theres 2 SBs, a VH and loads of GVs still up...
Since having rudder pedals I seem to be able to get off deck from a turning CV with a Dhog fully loaded with little trouble. Full WEP & flaps of course.
Title: Re: CV turn warning
Post by: RTHolmes on July 24, 2008, 04:12:18 AM
you use full flaps in the hog? most I've used is 3 notches maybe. was watching a program about FAA Harriers on Illustrious and noticed that they use no flaps until they are almost off the end of the deck, then wind em on really quick. makes sense, less drag until you need the lift, and works too - its worth an extra 10-15kts :aok im guessing this is SOP for non-catapult takeoffs?
Title: Re: CV turn warning
Post by: lyric1 on July 24, 2008, 04:51:51 AM
That is about what I do just as I reach the end of the deck. I have found with full flaps it works best for me on a hard turning CV.
Title: Re: CV turn warning
Post by: Hap on July 24, 2008, 06:54:19 AM
I've not had a hard time taking off or landing on a turning CV.  Landing is sort of fun -- a challenge.  Like Lyric said, full flaps.  Back up too.  Knock loose auto take off.  Move the nose of the plane to get your best view ahead.  Keep it in the middle.

Now, when 20 guys are crashing next to you it gets noisy.  Mute all sound.
Title: Re: CV turn warning
Post by: Ghastly on July 24, 2008, 07:08:10 AM
(With Rudder Pedals) I can almost always launch a -1D fully loaded successfully from a turning CV - if I realize that it's turning in time.  But there are a couple of very critical seconds during the runout where if it starts turning and I don't catch on in time, I end up clipping something on one side or the other. More importantly though it would be REALLY nice to have some sort of an indicator when you're dead sticking it in with a busted up plane, with no option of a go around - those few seconds of trying to sort it out all while dealing with everything else going on are absolutely critical.

It would be a nice feature, but it's certainly not essential to give us this nonrealistic tool to allow us to better perform our very nonrealistic CV ops in our very nonrealistic CV environment.

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Title: Re: CV turn warning
Post by: moot on July 24, 2008, 07:18:38 AM
Would be more realistic.... How ever could you imagine the moaning as the planes slide off the deck.
hehe
Title: Re: CV turn warning
Post by: Cthulhu on July 24, 2008, 09:44:34 AM
Make the ship tilt to the side..
So you want the ship to list as well during the turn? These guys are upset enough as it is by the yawing ship. You also want them to take off cock-eyed facing slightly up-hill? :rofl
Title: Re: CV turn warning
Post by: moot on July 24, 2008, 01:26:04 PM
But they'd be warned, see :D
Title: Re: CV turn warning
Post by: NEARY on July 25, 2008, 01:48:29 PM
hello your cv has started turning, please enjoy your fall into the ocean.
Title: Re: CV turn warning
Post by: ridley1 on July 28, 2008, 06:49:23 AM



wouldn't need much...two lights visible from take off point....red light, cv turning port....green light, cv turning starboard
Title: Re: CV turn warning
Post by: Cthulhu on July 30, 2008, 12:41:58 PM


wouldn't need much...two lights visible from take off point....red light, cv turning port....green light, cv turning starboard
Guys, just look for motion relative to the clouds or a nearby land mass.:rolleyes:  It's not that hard.  And the decent pilots don't really care one way or the other. They just take off.