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Title: todays rant
Post by: sirvlad on July 23, 2008, 03:39:26 PM
Ok, how come every fighter guy who comes to a baser can`t carry 1 bomb.Its easy to drop if you need to fight,or simply drop it on anything that would be useful then fight.I always carry atleast 1 bomb or a few rockets,not saying I am the greatest or anything but I do alright. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: Dragon on July 23, 2008, 03:49:04 PM
Some planes can't carry them.
 :noid

Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: Motherland on July 23, 2008, 03:51:53 PM
I don't like the rack. It still applies drag and wight to the airframe after you drop it. Plus if I carry a bomb I can't carry a droptank. Plus, bomb= longer climb and wait until target.

When I'm in a 109E, F, or K, or the Ta152, I can't take a bomb anyway.


Why do armchair generals always complain about people not helping them take a base? I've never complained about someone not furballing with me.

Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: Rich46yo on July 23, 2008, 03:51:57 PM
Because they pay the same $ every month the rest of us do and maybe dont feel like bombing anything....maybe?
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: Morpheus on July 23, 2008, 03:52:35 PM
I hate bombs and think they should be banned from the game. There is no place for them in this game.  :salute
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: pluck on July 23, 2008, 03:53:55 PM
because they don't want/care to?
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: Zazen13 on July 23, 2008, 03:59:03 PM
Ok, how come every fighter guy who comes to a baser can`t carry 1 bomb.Its easy to drop if you need to fight,or simply drop it on anything that would be useful then fight.I always carry atleast 1 bomb or a few rockets,not saying I am the greatest or anything but I do alright. :rolleyes:

I know this may come as a complete and utter shock to you, so prepare yourself...

A lot of people couldn't give a rat's furry arse about taking real estate. A lot of people are only there to engage in air combat with other like-minded souls. Attempting to impose your goals and your idea of fun upon others is only going to bring you misery and heartache...This goes for life in general, not just this game. I worry about people who haven't figured this out yet. They're the ones dying in bewildered loneliness, one excruciating day at a time, until merciful death finally puts them out of their self-inflicted misery....
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: Lusche on July 23, 2008, 03:59:36 PM
I prefer drop tanks over bombs.
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: infowars on July 23, 2008, 04:02:31 PM
Even if I took a bomb it wouldn't land anywhere near where you wanted it.   :(
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: Steve on July 23, 2008, 04:03:09 PM
Because I don't give a rat's furry arse about taking real estate.
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: Zazen13 on July 23, 2008, 04:03:56 PM
Because I don't give a rat's furry arse about taking real estate.

 :salute
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: 1701E on July 23, 2008, 04:04:03 PM
Bombs??  Pfff, who needs em, we have the B-25H, and planes with cannon.
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: Motherland on July 23, 2008, 04:04:19 PM
SirVlad seems to be a troll.
In both of these threads now he made the rant and left and never responded again.
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: Zazen13 on July 23, 2008, 04:07:17 PM
SirVlad seems to be a troll.
In both of these threads now he made the rant and left and never responded again.

I know Vlad, I don't think he would do that. I honestly think he's just incredibly frustrated. Hopefully he's actually letting what we're telling him soak in and not just blustering for sympathy for his cause.
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: dkff49 on July 23, 2008, 04:08:51 PM
I only carry ords if I plan on specifically doing a ground attack. But then I don't often concern myself with base taking.

When I do choose to work towards those kind of goals I carry ords with me. I need to be in the mood for that type of action though.

I have always played this game mostly for the purpose of dogfighting and most of my time is spent with that purpose in mind. On top of that my preferred fighter does not carry ords and even if I take a fighter that would, I would not carry them unless I plan for the sortie to be mostly for the purpose of dive bombing. Carrying ords slows even the most powerful aircraft down considerably and I am usually looking to get back to the fight as fast as possible.

And besides it's my $15 and if I don't feel like dive bombing then guess what, I won't.
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: uptown on July 23, 2008, 04:14:35 PM
Because I don't give a rat's furry arse about taking real estate.

I'm getting that way myself. :aok
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: Gixer on July 23, 2008, 04:46:07 PM
Ok, how come every fighter guy who comes to a baser can`t carry 1 bomb.

Simple, normal newbie and score tard activity. They are there for the easy kills vulch/pick nothing else. Capturing the base is of no interest to them unless they are low on gas.


<S>...-Gixer
 
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: ROX on July 23, 2008, 04:51:54 PM
Because I don't give a rat's furry arse about taking real estate.


And that's why it's so cool that there are so many different facets of the game!


We have:

Furballers
Hoarders
Alt Monkeys
B & Z'ers
Deck T&B'ers
Buff Hunters
Goon Hunters
Base Takers
Toolshedders
Strat Bombers
Base Porkers
Cherrypickers
Quakers
Shakers
Bakers
Candlestick Makers


I know I'm leaving something out...


*****We now return you to the thread's rant   :)   ************




ROX
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: bj229r on July 23, 2008, 04:54:01 PM
Ok, how come every fighter guy who comes to a baser can`t carry 1 bomb.Its easy to drop if you need to fight,or simply drop it on anything that would be useful then fight.I always carry atleast 1 bomb or a few rockets,not saying I am the greatest or anything but I do alright. :rolleyes:
If ya spent less time killing helpless buildings with 50 of your closest wingies, you might actually experience air combat, then mebbe get good at it, and discover a whole new aspect of the game
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: sirvlad on July 23, 2008, 05:20:55 PM
Well ok!  So only reason for a bomb is to take real estate? ThaTS RIDICULOUS  how many times have you heard somebody cry about field/town ack downing them? Maybe it`s just me but flying at the most 3 miles from our base with 10 to 15 other guys waiting to jump the first con in sight isn`t much fun. Then all you hear is  " you stole my kill or  hey i got the asst.  wtf?" Then i fly 10 more miles see a con or 2,let them pass(since i know we got 15 guys waiting for them)Fly 5 more miles and suddenly theres the same thing. 15 enemy cons waiting in a pack. So i fly in drop on a target with 1 bomb or 2 maybe hit 3 ack with rockets.Climb out pass the field then turn and fight. Usually downing a enemy or 2 then rtb and most often then not end up killin the cons i passed on the way in since all our guys r slow from circling n hugging 3 miles out from our base. As for me not responding to the last post i generally just throw out my frustrations and see what others say,not that it really matters,but the old lady`s not hear for me to yell at!!
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: Guppy35 on July 23, 2008, 05:28:29 PM
Some of us pretend we're fighter pilots.

Some of us pretend to be fighter bomber pilots

Some pretend to be bomber pilots.

A pretend fighter pilot wants nothing to do with loading an ugly looking cartoon bomb on his pretty looking cartoon fighter plane.  And this cartoon fighter pilot can't hit the ground with a bomb so it would be pointless for me to carry one.  This cartoon fighter pilot has an aversion to cartoon flak too as it tends to put big pixilated holes in his cartoon fighter plane, if not completely pixilating him at times.  It seems silly to play in the cartoon flak
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: Zazen13 on July 23, 2008, 05:37:01 PM
ThaTS RIDICULOUS  how many times have you heard somebody cry about field/town ack downing them?

Anyone whining about getting smacked by ack is either vulching or porking, either way that makes it their problem...I like to discourage vulching, even by my own team, that means specifically NOT helping take down ack...Nothing ends and otherwise good fight quicker than de-acking and vulching...
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: 2bighorn on July 23, 2008, 05:40:13 PM
And that's why it's so cool that there are so many different facets of the game!

Yes, intelligence gathering is coolest of them all.




I know I'm leaving something out...

Spies...
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: SmokinLoon on July 23, 2008, 05:46:03 PM
Ok, how come every fighter guy who comes to a baser can`t carry 1 bomb.Its easy to drop if you need to fight,or simply drop it on anything that would be useful then fight.I always carry atleast 1 bomb or a few rockets,not saying I am the greatest or anything but I do alright. :rolleyes:

I think everyone understands what you are saying, but some guys (inlcuding me) go into an area with a specific mission in mind, and if I am in a Spit9 (no ord) or a Spit9, I'm going to want all the fuel I can carry so taht rules out the bomb for the Mk8.  Also, some fighters have drastically reduced preformance when carrying ord, and some dont gain anything after they drop due to the mounting apperatus (Bf109?) so they are screwed outright.  

I can and do take ord on a P47 or F6F when I can and I know the mission is dual purpose,.... but even then my primary mission is to ground pound and THEN be a fighter.  You dont go into an area low and slow and expect to survive very long.
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: sirvlad on July 23, 2008, 06:01:57 PM
I have never lost a flight and blamed it on the fact that i have or had a bomb.I lose fights due to pilot error it`s certainly me and not the planes performance,or maybe it is and i have learned to fly with a plane so equiped.As for not having enough fuel,that i understand fully yet at the same time i rarely see anyone up from a base thats not the closest,thus they have no alt,get sucked in low fight right away and generally die befor using up 1/2 a tank.
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: Steve on July 23, 2008, 06:28:52 PM
Well ok!  So only reason for a bomb is to take real estate? ThaTS RIDICULOUS.  Play my way or you are a dweeb!

I don't care about ack since if I get anywhere near it I explode and I never have a problem finding guys to shoot at. At any given moment, about 80% of the arena has the same opinion.
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: Soulyss on July 23, 2008, 06:58:56 PM
A pretend fighter pilot wants nothing to do with loading an ugly looking cartoon bomb on his pretty looking cartoon fighter plane.  And this cartoon fighter pilot can't hit the ground with a bomb so it would be pointless for me to carry one. 

And yet you're so good at hitting the ground with your plane as a burning, flaming, wreckage.
Maybe if you could set the bomb on fire THEN drop it you'd be in bussiness.

:)

Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: yanksfan on July 23, 2008, 07:24:20 PM
I have never lost a flight and blamed it on the fact that i have or had a bomb.I lose fights due to pilot error it`s certainly me and not the planes performance,or maybe it is and i have learned to fly with a plane so equiped.As for not having enough fuel,that i understand fully yet at the same time i rarely see anyone up from a base thats not the closest,thus they have no alt,get sucked in low fight right away and generally die befor using up 1/2 a tank.


Actually, I took bombs to a base capture just to help out, (I don't generally do that) anyway, just helping out some friends as thats what they like to do, cool, I'm in, I take bombs ,I miss, long story short i take off to go fight, get in a fight and only by the grace of God and several freinds clearing my six did I make it out, Now I'm not very good but this was pathetic, anyway one of them asks me if i was armed with a thousand pounder or was I just happy to see him.

So yes bombs can kill you, they are very dangerous and need close supervision.
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: Vudak on July 23, 2008, 08:00:15 PM
Simple, normal newbie and score tard activity. They are there for the easy kills vulch/pick nothing else. Capturing the base is of no interest to them unless they are low on gas.
 

Surely, you jest...  :huh
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: Bear76 on July 23, 2008, 09:00:14 PM

And that's why it's so cool that there are so many different facets of the game!


We have:

Furballers
Hoarders
Alt Monkeys
B & Z'ers
Deck T&B'ers
Buff Hunters
Goon Hunters
Base Takers
Toolshedders
Strat Bombers
Base Porkers
Cherrypickers
Quakers
Shakers
Bakers
Candlestick Makers


I know I'm leaving something out...


*****We now return you to the thread's rant   :)   ************




ROX
You forgot whiners
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: ROX on July 23, 2008, 09:50:44 PM
You forgot whiners

Oh....and I forgot:

Scorepotatoes
Spawn campers
Ch200 Namecallers
KP Potato peelers
Rundweebs
O'CLub movie Watchers
Squirrels with cameras.


**********Please feel free to return to today's rant.



(PS.  I think that vlad was joking) 




I love you all.  Hugs all around.   :aok





ROX

Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: tech9 on July 24, 2008, 02:34:35 AM




I know I'm leaving something out...


How could you forget squeekers
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: WMLute on July 24, 2008, 08:34:55 AM
Always better to have a bomb(s) and pickle them for a dogfight than to need them and not have them.


(WidowMaker 101)
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: avionix on July 24, 2008, 08:49:32 AM
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I know I'm leaving something out...

I think that you may have missed vulchers.   :D
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: ROX on July 24, 2008, 09:54:23 AM
I think that you may have missed vulchers.   :D



Thank you LTARazor



Vulchers
Vulchees
Hidden CV uppers
Secret gv Base Takers
HQ Raiders
HQ Raider Hunters
Squeekers
Know It Alls
Little Generals
N00bs
"How do I start my engine?"



Cod.....I love this game.


What else am I leaving out?



ROX



Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: crockett on July 24, 2008, 10:00:44 AM
Well ok!  So only reason for a bomb is to take real estate? ThaTS RIDICULOUS  how many times have you heard somebody cry about field/town ack downing them? Maybe it`s just me but flying at the most 3 miles from our base with 10 to 15 other guys waiting to jump the first con in sight isn`t much fun. Then all you hear is  " you stole my kill or  hey i got the asst.  wtf?" Then i fly 10 more miles see a con or 2,let them pass(since i know we got 15 guys waiting for them)Fly 5 more miles and suddenly theres the same thing. 15 enemy cons waiting in a pack. So i fly in drop on a target with 1 bomb or 2 maybe hit 3 ack with rockets.Climb out pass the field then turn and fight. Usually downing a enemy or 2 then rtb and most often then not end up killin the cons i passed on the way in since all our guys r slow from circling n hugging 3 miles out from our base. As for me not responding to the last post i generally just throw out my frustrations and see what others say,not that it really matters,but the old lady`s not hear for me to yell at!!

If they wernt close to the base trying to vulch, they wouldn't have to worry about field ack killing them. The only legit complaint about ack is from CV's IMHO. I dunno how many times I've upped at a base that was being vulched by tards from a CV only to fight them back until they hide in CV ack. That is the lamest of the lame and the only time you will ever catch me with bombs is if tards from a CV have ticked me off and I decide to sink it.
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: humble on July 24, 2008, 10:11:31 AM
Ok, how come every fighter guy who comes to a baser can`t carry 1 bomb.Its easy to drop if you need to fight,or simply drop it on anything that would be useful then fight.I always carry atleast 1 bomb or a few rockets,not saying I am the greatest or anything but I do alright. :rolleyes:

Even in the A-20 I normally carry zero ords, its a question of mind set. On those rare occasions I have a specific intention I'll carry ords to accomplish the task. Lusche asked for some help a few nights ago to capture a base. I grabbed 8 x 500 and dropped them on the VH (or in the general area there of :D) and then got down to business...in the end I went in but not before I got 8 guys who were attempting to defend harass the GV attack.

Normally even in an A-20 I'm just looking for a fight. I dont care about our real estate, their real estate or who's "Winning". To be honest I really dont care if I "win" my fight. I'd rather lose a good 1 on 1 then land 6 or 7 tardlets/vulches...

Now when/if 71 Squadron goes "digital dirt" (and we do occasionally) I to anything needed from fly the goon to hauling iron, same thing if I elect to help out someone elses plan. The simple truth is that the "strategic war" has no real value beyond providing targets for the rest of us.
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: avionix on July 24, 2008, 10:19:57 AM
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HQ Raider Hunters

What's wrong with that one ROX?  That's really the only time you get to use the ME-163.  In fact, I may try to find some HQ Raiders after work.  Still haven't flown the 163 in game yet and I can't wait.  :D
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: Hap on July 24, 2008, 10:38:15 AM
The only legit complaint about ack is from CV's IMHO. I dunno how many times I've upped at a base that was being vulched by tards from a CV only to fight them back until they hide in CV ack.

Until the ship guns are blasted and broken.  Seeing folk vulched on a CV and especially hearing howls of bewilderment is painful.  Funny in a painful way.
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: humble on July 24, 2008, 10:42:58 AM
Until the ship guns are blasted and broken.  Seeing folk vulched on a CV and especially hearing howls of bewilderment is painful.  Funny in a painful way.

Doing touch and go's off an enemy CV is always a good time
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: Yenny on July 24, 2008, 12:28:04 PM
D9 have 20 min fuel w/o DT. 5-7 min to target area average, 5-7 rtb average. That'll leave ya 6-10 min combat time over enemy area w/o DT. To carry egg in D9 you have to sacrafy the DT O.o. Just doesn't compute omg ! brain overload  :confused:
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: SunBat on July 24, 2008, 12:43:34 PM
I don't take them because I always have a little fear in the back of my mind that the ground crew may have accidentally strapped a nuke under there instead of a regular bomb and when I drop it the whole map will splode instead of a few of those dangerous buildings. 
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: ROX on July 24, 2008, 01:07:18 PM
What's wrong with that one ROX?  That's really the only time you get to use the ME-163.  In fact, I may try to find some HQ Raiders after work.  Still haven't flown the 163 in game yet and I can't wait.  :D


Absolutely, positively nothing wrong with it.  I was just listing the many different facest of the game.

I spent a whole tour ones in a TA-152 popping HQ Raiders.  I had a lot of fun and landed a lot of scalps.

Please scroll up an re-read.

Thanks!


Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: avionix on July 24, 2008, 01:15:42 PM
Sorry ROX.  In between dealing with transponder certs and idiots pilots with questions today, my brain is fried.
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: Shuffler on July 24, 2008, 01:21:01 PM
I duct tape 2 torps on my 38 and go to town.....
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: Lusche on July 24, 2008, 01:26:19 PM
I duct tape 2 torps on my 38 and go to town.....

For those of us who have been around some time,I just need to say "Save your drop tanks for the town!! "  :D
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: redman555 on July 24, 2008, 04:57:46 PM
yup, and id rather have more speed, all it does is weigh u down.. even if u drop, rack is still there.. and u r already going slower cause of it


-BigBOBCH
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: ROX on July 24, 2008, 09:17:39 PM
Sorry ROX.  In between dealing with transponder certs and idiots pilots with questions today, my brain is fried.


No problem, Sir    :salute

If you have those more importaint distractions, they take priority over cartoon posts about a cartoon game.   :aok



(OH..BTW:  I'll save BiPoLaR a post:   Avionix:  are you sure those pilots you work with in RL aren't spies?)
((Done as a public service))




ROX





ROX
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: Delirium on July 25, 2008, 12:40:38 AM
I'll carry an egg on my P38 the day those bombs will damage friendly tanks...

Can you imagine a friendly dropping an egg on DrDeath's tank? Quality entertainment!  :rofl
Title: Re: todays rant
Post by: avionix on July 25, 2008, 05:43:01 AM
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Avionix:  are you sure those pilots you work with in RL aren't spies?)

I don't know what they are.  You normally think of pilots as smart guys that actually know what they are doing.  It is amazing when one of them calls and tells you something that he has heard from hsi buddy Jim Bob down at the airport.  He will actually believe his buddy on issues of avionics and when we go to correct him, tells us that we don't know what we are talking about.  Or you get the guy that sounds about as ancient as Moses calling for soemthing and you wonder how he still gets his medical.  Had one come in to the shop and hand me his GPS for some work to be done and his hands were literally shaking.  And he had just flown in and I know he hadn't scared himself in any way.  On the whole most are pretty cool.  But there are always those few characters.

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Can you imagine a friendly dropping an egg on DrDeath's tank?

How bout dr7?   JK