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Title: TEMPS after new cooling install
Post by: falcon23 on July 24, 2008, 07:14:37 PM
Install went well,although the VC cooler was a bit of a pain,it installed...

My usual temp for the VC,A Geforce 8600GT was about 52c..That was with the fan running 100%..

 With the cooler I added..Passive I might add..it is idling at 45c.under load in-game it got about 57c..I am impressed with it.. :aok

  Now the other item..A XIGMATEKHDTS1283 is giving me a bit of a fit,but it could of been my install..

 Let me explain..I have an e8400 and I looked on the site as to how to apply Arctic5..

 I applied it in one long line down the center of the chip lined as it should be..Now the copper pipes "look" much bigger than the cpu so what I did was I put 2 other small lines on the chip as well so that they would cover the whole chip.I did this once then picked it up to see what it looked like,and it did not totally cover the whole chip,and some of the coper pipes on the XIGMA did not have A5 on them totally,especially torwards the side pipes..

 My question is..Do I need to make sure that a SMALL amount is covering the whole chip??
Ack has one of these and some of you others may also,and so I am asking..How do I apply the A5 to this?? it is running OK,but I should be able to get better cooling..

 Maybe I need to get an After Market 120mm to put on it as this one that came with it only goes to 1500RPM..???

  I got the bolt down kit and it went without a hitch..I am very pleased with it...but I KNOW I can get the temps down even more,or at least I should be able too.. :salute

                                                           FALCON23

 PS..forgot to add,under orthos load the cores are averaging about 3-4c degree difference..
Title: Re: TEMPS after new cooling install
Post by: Fulmar on July 24, 2008, 07:36:33 PM
I believe you applied too much A5 to the CPU.  Too much thermal grease can not transfer the heat away from the cpu.  A thin vertical line just like the directions show is ideal coverage.  It does not need to cover the whole chip and what you call the chip is just a heatshield for the cores underneath it.
Title: Re: TEMPS after new cooling install
Post by: falcon23 on July 24, 2008, 08:12:16 PM
ANd that one line fulmar will only cover ONE copper pipe on the cooler.It may touch the other copper pipes but I doubt it will cover them like it will the one in the middle..So I am guessing that ONE in the middle over the cores is the one I need to be concerned about..?
                                                        Falcon23 :salute
Title: Re: TEMPS after new cooling install
Post by: Getback on July 24, 2008, 08:15:05 PM
I always heard or read that it should be the size of a BB. Then just twist the heatsink a little when you install.
Title: Re: TEMPS after new cooling install
Post by: Fulmar on July 24, 2008, 08:34:56 PM
I can only imagine Arctic Silver's company has this down to a science.  I wouldn't second guess their recommendation.
Title: Re: TEMPS after new cooling install
Post by: Masherbrum on July 24, 2008, 09:10:52 PM
ANd that one line fulmar will only cover ONE copper pipe on the cooler.It may touch the other copper pipes but I doubt it will cover them like it will the one in the middle..So I am guessing that ONE in the middle over the cores is the one I need to be concerned about..?
                                                        Falcon23 :salute

You are worried about the CPU.   Cooler doesn't matter in this instance.   Put the single line like I did.   With AH2 up and WMP I'm at 41 C under "full load".   
Title: Re: TEMPS after new cooling install
Post by: falcon23 on July 24, 2008, 09:33:24 PM
OK,I figured out the problem with my CPU temps...I was SET-UP!!!! :noid

  IN BIOS I change the multiplier to say..370and of course multiplier of 9..


 I suddenyl get this RED FLASHING WARNING which says..VOLTAGE NOT OPTIMIZED,so I am thinking,it is in manual and it is at 1.225v..It wants to OPTMIZE my VOLTAGE for me,how cool,I have a SMART-MOBO..HEH!!!I let it go to auto,and hit f-10 save and it reboots..when it comes back online and I go into bios,the temps are A HIGH 48c or so..and I am thinking WHAT IN THE WORLD,they were just sitting idle at 32c..

 You know what I am thinking yet??? I am thinking,THIS NEW COOLER IS NOT DOING ITS JOB... :cry

 Then I look around and dig a bit deeper into the BIOS,What do you think I found which was OPTIMIZED???HEH!!!..My voltage is being optimized by my awesome MOBO to 1.524.. :O

  Now I am learning..so I go in and change my VOLATGE CONTROL to MANUAL..andit goes back down to 1.225..ANd you know what else goes down,yup my TEMPS.... :rock

 NOw at 370X9,I am running at 3.34 GHZ and temps are 32c..under load,it gets about 40/44c..... :rock

                             OK,so I am a bit slow..forgive me... :huh

                                         Falcon23
Title: Re: TEMPS after new cooling install
Post by: Getback on July 24, 2008, 09:40:21 PM
WTG, live and learn. I've done much worse in my journey to computer land.
Title: Re: TEMPS after new cooling install
Post by: angelsandair on July 25, 2008, 08:23:56 AM
Falcon, you ever get my PM?
Title: Re: TEMPS after new cooling install
Post by: Getback on July 26, 2008, 10:02:06 AM
With the new chi.. err CPU installed and the cpu running at 3.344 ghz under full load my temperatures are 44 c and 40c respectively. The fan is at 2160 rpms. Looks like everthing is working like it should.

I ran orthos for 11 minutes.

Like you falcon, it was a pain. I had to pull the MB out. I knew that going in because of the large Zalman cooler. One good thing was that I found the bar that allowed the Zalman to be bolted to the cpu housing. That is a much more secure setup than the latch.
Title: Re: TEMPS after new cooling install
Post by: a1945 on July 26, 2008, 10:51:33 AM
WTG, live and learn. I've done much worse in my journey to computer land.
Ive got ya beat lol
Title: Re: TEMPS after new cooling install
Post by: Getback on July 26, 2008, 11:56:42 AM
Ive got ya beat lol

I can't resist a1945. What'd ya do?
Title: Re: TEMPS after new cooling install
Post by: falcon23 on July 26, 2008, 02:39:01 PM
After going into bios for about 30 min or so,I am stable at 3.6.. :D

Took upping the voltage a few times,but it finally stabilized..Idle 33c..load is 47/49c.

                                                             Falcon23 :rock
Title: Re: TEMPS after new cooling install
Post by: Getback on July 26, 2008, 10:01:31 PM
After going into bios for about 30 min or so,I am stable at 3.6.. :D

Took upping the voltage a few times,but it finally stabilized..Idle 33c..load is 47/49c.

                                                             Falcon23 :rock

Noticable difference right?
Title: Re: TEMPS after new cooling install
Post by: falcon23 on July 26, 2008, 10:37:31 PM
I believe so getback..I know many things load MUCH quicker than they did before..

 I tore into my rig again today to adjust the fan on the cooler,and while I did so,I redid the AC5 and reseated the  cooler,temps currently at 32 idle,and 42/45 under load..

 4.0...here I come..maybe as soon as tommorrow..and I got my ram in sync...

                                                                       Falcon23 :salute

 Haws that 8500 performing???
Title: Re: TEMPS after new cooling install
Post by: Getback on July 27, 2008, 12:19:12 AM
So far so good on the e8500. I'm leaving it at 4 ghz for now  :rofl Okay, I'm leaving it at 3.34 for now. I want the A5 to cure before I oc any further. I read the instructions (This time). It seems that the chip actually runs long toward the gold triangle end. I put a bead of Arctic Silver down the middle of the CPU, the length of the chip. When I had my e8400 at 3.6 it was a noticeable difference. It confirmed what Skuzzy said about the game being CPU intensive.

I did make a small booboo. I ordered 1066 ram and my MB only supports DR2 800. Oh well, guess I will have some for the other machine or maybe even the next machine. Ah if only it did support DDR2 1066. That would be 9.5 x 533 = 5.0635 ghz. However at 9.5 x 400 that = 3.8 Ghz :D

I never would have bought the E8500 if the E8400 was good. I had to do something to test it. I figured for just $20 bucks more I would go with the E8500. The price on the E8500 had dropped by over $70.


Let me know how that Ram over clocking goes. I've never done that.