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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: redman555 on July 26, 2008, 07:42:42 PM
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k, so going to college in a year, just curious, im considering getting a masters in history, but im not sure if i need 2 go longer, does anyone know wat degree u gotta have to teach college classes? or u know, do the stuff on history channel, when they have u say stuff?
-BigBOBCH
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Passable English is always useful in teaching :aok
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ur kidding rite?
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I worked with a person who graduated from Cornell University with a PhD in History. He was washing glass beakers for Pfizer.
He was a great guy, but he was bummed as hell for the job market.
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I was a history major with minors in political science and classics. Now I swing a stick for a living.
:rock
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k, so going to college in a year, just curious, im considering getting a masters in history, but im not sure if i need 2 go longer, does anyone know wat degree u gotta have to teach college classes? or u know, do the stuff on history channel, when they have u say stuff?
-BigBOBCH
If you're serious (considering what others have pointed out about the grammar), it doesn't take any degree to teach college classes. I had a friend who was self-employed, had not completed a bachelor's degree, but was invited to teach a course at a well-known state university. He was, however, somewhat successful at what he did, so was the exception.
Most community colleges/2-year schools require a Master's to teach. Ph.D & Masters granting institutions as well as most 4-year schools, require a Ph.D. or a Masters with prior teaching experience.
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Don't get a degree in history unless you really absolutely only want to teach history or you have nothing else that interests you. It was my major for 3 years and halfway into my junior year I changed major's to exercise science with a double minor in history and kinesiology. I ended up finishing that after 6 years in college and now I am North American Technical Specialist/Sales Rep for a worldwide steel pipe company. I don't use my degree at all and it didn't help me get any of the jobs I have had before now. One day I will get around to using it while I go back and get my masters.
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I was actually thinking of getting a history degree myself seeing as there just REALLY isnt much that interrests me. That and the Military doesnt require any particular degrees to fly (Though granted, degrees in the hard sciences are a good idea)
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My sister majored in history and minored in political science, no job. She is now going back to school to be a teacher. Unless you get lucky and find a job at a museum (like she wanted to) make sure to get a backup. Being able to fall back and teach is always a good thing.
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Also: It's a little known fact that if you go to community college long enough, they let you be the teacher!
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Higher education for it's own sake is fine. In this case you need to take a look and see what the job outlook is like for history majors. Teaching is the largest job market for that major. Teaching along with other professional positions will require proper English, both written and verbal.
It would be a good idea to have a secondary purpose for education other than just studying something for it's own sake. Even though the Military doesn't have a specific requirement for a major in order to fly it would be a good idea to have a salable skill set or education you can fall back on in the civilian world.
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It would be a good idea to have a secondary purpose for education other than just studying something for it's own sake. Even though the Military doesn't have a specific requirement for a major in order to fly it would be a good idea to have a salable skill set or education you can fall back on in the civilian world.
Yeah, thats why Im thinking I may have to go with a hard science instead, as much as I dislike it. A PPL wouldn't cut it, I don't think, to do the kind of flying I would want to in the civilian world.
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History major with and English minor. Never made a penny off it :)
I guess I teach it any chance i get, but not in a school.
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You want to be a history teacher so you can be on TV? Why not just study political science or communications? We need more people trained in computer science and electrical engineering but if history is what you love go for it.
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learning is never a bad thing to do.
ever.
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I would very strongly recommend against it. I majored in history my first time through college. I'll repeat that and highlight the reason I'd recommend against it.
I majored in history my first time through college.
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I agree with Urchin. Now if you want to teach high school or grade school, you can get on with it. Much better return on investment.
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If I had to give advice to any high schooler (and I sincerely wish someone had given me some - I'd have saved myself 5-6 years of sleepwalking through life).
Have a plan.
That is really all you need. I guess I can flesh it out more though :).
Life doesn't just happen to you. You can actively influence the path your life takes. Are you going to be the next Bill Gates? No, probably not. But if you started off anywhere other than a ghetto in the city somewhere, you've already had everything except the most crucial ingredient handed to you on a silver platter.
When I graduated from high school (which was sadly... last century [lol]) I did not have a plan. I wanted to enlist in the Marines, my parents wanted me to go to college and offered to pay for half. Since I didn't feel strongly either way, I took them up on the college offer, and attended a nearby state school (UMBC - it is actually a good school). The main problem with that is I didn't have a reason to be at college. It really wasn't part of my plan (to be honest though, since I didn't really HAVE a plan...).
So I bumblefarted around for two years, taking general study classes (note: if you are going to do that.. do it at a community college.. that is what they are there for). I'd go back and forth, declaring different majors every semester. Finally I decided that since I liked history, and it was easy, I'd do that.
Fast forward to 2000. I hadn't done any summer internships, I hadn't even spent the last semester looking for a job (I was working at a company that did technical support and testing for video games, which I really enjoyed, so I didn't bother). Got fired from that job (along with about half the company, they lost their two biggest customers) in December of 2000, the same month I graduated from college with a handy History B.A.
Now that that point I still could've turned things around. I could've tried for a military commission (especially after Sept. 11, although I was, and still am, a lardass - working on changing that now). I could have tried any number of things. Long story short, I didn't. I sleepwalked through life until around age 25, at which point I realized that even though I wasn't alone in having a dead end job and living with my parents, that didn't make my life any less of a collossal failure.
But the most important part here? I didn't give up. I accepted the fact that I had, up until that point, blew it - but I didn't write myself off. I decided to go back to school. I have friends that STILL haven't (I believe they've given up, and it wouldn't surprise me a bit to have another one kill himself). I got a math degree - which I am paying for now. But that was an investment. One that will pay off. I have a great job with the Army (as a civilian). Once I get in good enough shape to pass the physical, I plan on joining the Guard in my area.
So now that you know my life story (LOL) - I hope that you can take something away from it. Learn from the mistakes I made.
The military is NOT a bad thing. I think most kids would benefit from serving for 2-4 years. It gives you a taste of what the real world is like, it offers you a possible career, but more importantly it gives you time to think about what you REALLY want out of your life. If you don't want to do the military, but you don't really know 'what you want to be when you grow up', then do the community college (or a four year school but get VERY involved with extracurricular activities - i.e. internships, etc.. not the yearbook club).
Anyway, if you want to talk in private, feel free to contact me via PM. Or post back here and I'll email you. If you want to talk in public, just respond here. I'm absolutely willing to talk about the fits and starts I experienced in my life to this point if it helps someone else avoid them.
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The great thing about loving history is that you can love and learn history in absolutely any aspect of any profession/trade/hobby/craft/aspect of life. No matter where you're at in life, absolutely everything has history. :)
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Life doesn't just happen to you. You can actively influence the path your life takes.
The great thing about loving history is that you can love and learn history in absolutely any aspect of any profession/trade/hobby/craft/aspect of life. No matter where you're at in life, absolutely everything has history. :)
Quoted for truth.
I've always loved history. In high school, teaching history was one of the 3 careers on my short list. (Kinda had the opposite problem from Urchin's -- always tended to over analyze life.) It's been the path not taken for me, but I've never stopped reading and learning about it. Those stories ('cause that's what history is, after all) have given me great pleasure my whole life. Now that I'm close enough to think a little about retirement plans (it's probably 20 years from now...like I said, I tend to over analyze!), I'm thinking about getting a masters and teaching at a local community college for fun when that time rolls around.
Remember that while life is not under your control, you CAN choose...and no matter what path you choose you get to choose what you take along with you.
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history degree? "Hmmm...take the third cab on the left, the A/C doesnt work and it pulls to the right, your shift ends at 3am!"
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lol bj... awesome signature.
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lol bj... awesome signature.
thanka, thankaverymuch! (I think it was another Coulterism) :aok
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Passable English is always useful in teaching :aok
:aok :aok
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Passable English is always useful in teaching :aok
word.
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I agree with Urchin et al.
I also agree that any degree is a great thing to have.
You really need to be practical about it though.
I got a poli-sci degree. Very much like a history degree.
Then I went back to school at night to get my accounting credit required for a CPA. I really wish I hadn't wasted so many years fumbling around.
History and poli-sci degrees are fun. You can always do them later, when you can afford it.
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well, im hoping to passably to teach at a college level.. problem is... its not that easy to find a job just outa college with it...
-BigBOBCH
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k, so going to college in a year, just curious, im considering getting a masters in history, but im not sure if i need 2 go longer, does anyone know wat degree u gotta have to teach college classes? or u know, do the stuff on history channel, when they have u say stuff?
-BigBOBCH
:rofl :rofl You may need to work on basic high school english before you try for masters degree. :rolleyes: