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Title: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 27, 2008, 06:49:17 PM
What does one gain by vulching a 2nd account to gain rank?  Does having your name on the main page every month mean that much to you?  Is it that important to feel accepted by this community that you will engage in activity that this community frowns upon?  Does it give you a warm and fuzzy feeling everytime you log on you see yourself ranked #1?  Does it bother you that you had to basically cheat your way to the top?  Does it bother you that the community thinks lowly of players like you?

I'm curious to see what guys like Biggamer and Dextur would like to say on this subject, maybe we'll have their 'friend' yourfup pipe in too with his thoughts.



ack-ack
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: angelsandair on July 27, 2008, 06:50:03 PM
horay, a 2nd legit thing to whine about! :rofl
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 27, 2008, 07:00:11 PM
horay, a 2nd legit thing to whine about! :rofl

Since you don't know the difference between a question and a whine.

Definition of Question: The act of asking; interrogation; inquiry; as, to examine by question and answer.

Definition of Whine: to complain with or as if with a whine.

I don't care if they vulch a shade account nor am I complaining that they are.  I just would like to know why people would engage in an activity to gain some respect within the community when that activity is seen as one of the lamest things you can do.



ack-ack
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Lusche on July 27, 2008, 07:01:41 PM
I tried to vulch my shade once, but it was so secret & well hidden i couldn't find it :(
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Stang on July 27, 2008, 07:02:46 PM


 :eek:
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Winks on July 27, 2008, 07:04:13 PM
 :lol :lol :lol.... pay HTC more money for rank :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: evenhaim on July 27, 2008, 07:05:43 PM
I wish i had a shade so I could at least find 1 fight  :lol
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: BiPoLaR on July 27, 2008, 07:21:31 PM
good call akak

yourfup seems to run into these two alot

Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Gixer on July 27, 2008, 07:27:12 PM
(http://pic1.picturetrail.com/VOL1132/3985165/18938532/327533033.jpg)


<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: TwinBoom on July 27, 2008, 07:52:35 PM
biggamer has 27 kills on yourfup midwar yourfup all in b24`s
biggamer has 31 kills on yourfup latewar yourfup 12 in b24 2 niki and 17 panzrs  :rofl

dextur has 2 kills on yourfup midwar yourfup b24
dextur has 28 kills on yourfup your died 11 b24`s 1 niki 16 panzrs  :rofl

both guys have same latewar kills on this shade
wonder if they split the cost :huh

meanwhile yourup has 0 kills on them
further prove scoring system is fubar
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Steve on July 27, 2008, 07:57:27 PM
biggamer has 27 kills on yourfup midwar yourfup all in b24`s
biggamer has 31 kills on yourfup latewar yourfup 12 in b24 2 niki and 17 panzrs  :rofl

Ya, Dextur has long been doing this.  In no time, Shawk will be on here telling us all how Dextur will own any of us. This may or may not be the case, but the kid pads. It doesn't really bother me other than the protestations of innocence.  I find that a bit insulting.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 27, 2008, 07:58:27 PM
biggamer has 27 kills on yourfup midwar yourfup all in b24`s
biggamer has 31 kills on yourfup latewar yourfup 12 in b24 2 niki and 17 panzrs  :rofl

Dextur logs in with yourfup and biggamer vulches him for a few in the MW arena late at night when only about 3 or 4 on then biggamer logs on yourfup and Dextur vulches him for a bit.  They then move off to the LW arena and head to an area with no action so they can repeat their process in peace.  Sad what one will do to have their name on the main page.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Gixer on July 27, 2008, 08:03:57 PM
Sad what one will do to have their name on the main page.


ack-ack

Why a few weeks back I started a thread to remove the score potatos from main page news, stick them at the back of the website where they belong.


<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 27, 2008, 08:04:13 PM
Ya, Dextur has long been doing this.  In no time, Shawk will be on here telling us all how Dextur will own any of us. This may or may not be the case, but the kid pads. It doesn't really bother me other than the protestations of innocence.  I find that a bit insulting.

Frankly, I don't care what SHawk has to say about the subject, he's one of the main reasons these kids in his squadron do what they do.   I would like to hear Biggamer and Dextur's thoughts though.  Besides the humor factor, it would be a valuable insight to the inner workings of a squeaker's mind.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: SkyRock on July 27, 2008, 08:04:23 PM
Pacerr thread??

 :eek:
I was thinking..........





Husky







 :noid
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: SkyRock on July 27, 2008, 08:08:45 PM





biggamer has 27 kills on yourfup midwar yourfup all in b24`s
biggamer has 31 kills on yourfup latewar yourfup 12 in b24 2 niki and 17 panzrs  :rofl

dextur has 2 kills on yourfup midwar yourfup b24
dextur has 28 kills on yourfup your died 11 b24`s 1 niki 16 panzrs  :rofl

both guys have same latewar kills on this shade
wonder if they split the cost :huh

meanwhile yourup has 0 kills on them
further prove scoring system is fubar
:rofl
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Baitman on July 27, 2008, 08:09:44 PM
How do you get to the page to find out who has killed who?

 :huh
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Lusche on July 27, 2008, 08:13:11 PM
How do you get to the page to find out who has killed who?

 :huh

AH scorepages. Killstats in an expanded format. Select "player vs" "player". (Of course you have to know who you are looking for)

If I remember right, it doesn't used to work with firefox though...
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: FALCONWING on July 27, 2008, 08:13:18 PM
How do you get to the page to find out who has killed who?

 :huh

You have to go under scores and type "cpid" vs "cpid".  This is only useful if you actually have an idea of who you want to compare.  As i have stated in the past, I think it would be great to be able to search for top 10 pilots "XXXX" has killed and top ten pilots who have killed "XXXX"
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Zazen13 on July 27, 2008, 08:14:10 PM
What does one gain by vulching a 2nd account to gain rank?  Does having your name on the main page every month mean that much to you?  Is it that important to feel accepted by this community that you will engage in activity that this community frowns upon?  Does it give you a warm and fuzzy feeling everytime you log on you see yourself ranked #1?  Does it bother you that you had to basically cheat your way to the top?  Does it bother you that the community thinks lowly of players like you?

I'm curious to see what guys like Biggamer and Dextur would like to say on this subject, maybe we'll have their 'friend' yourfup pipe in too with his thoughts.



ack-ack

I'd love to be able to respond to this intelligently. But, I have only one theory that I can come up with. Beyond that I am at total loss. Asking normal people why someone has to do that sort of thing  is kind of like asking a devout nun why prostitutes have sex for money...

The only thing I can come up with is they are attention starved. Unfortunately, even us talking about it is rewarding them with the attention they crave...
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Lusche on July 27, 2008, 08:16:49 PM
I won't comment on this particular INteresting incident (yet :D), but I think most players that I personally have found doing such things did it actually to gain cheap perks that way. Don't know if that's the majority, just what I subjectively witnessed a few times.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Zazen13 on July 27, 2008, 08:20:14 PM
I won't comment on this particular INteresting incident (yet :D), but I think most players that I personally have found doing such things did it actually to gain cheap perks that way. Don't know if that's the majority, just what I subjectively witnessed a few times.

I may be a little out of touch with this because I have 41,000'ish perks banked so don't really pay much attention anymore. But, are perks really that difficult to get just by playing normally? From what I recall, you even get fighter perks for dropping ordnance on strats and stuff in attack mode, it really doesn't get much easier than that...You can get fighter perks like that without even shooting anyone down...
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Banshee7 on July 27, 2008, 08:20:40 PM
he's one of the main reasons these kids in his squadron do what they do.

niether Biggamer or Dextur are in SHawks squad.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Lusche on July 27, 2008, 08:22:35 PM
I may be a little out of touch with this because I have 41,000 perks banked so don't really pay much attention anymore. But, are perks really that difficult to get just by playing normally? From what I recall, you get fighter perks for dropping ordnance on strats and stuff in attack mode, it really doesn't get much easier than that...You can get fighter perks like that without even shooting anyone down...

I guess it depends all on skill level, patience and willingness to get out of the Spit XVI / La7 at least a few times :D

But seriously, I can well remember the times when I still had trouble to get enough perks for a 262. Maybe the shortcut is too tempting for some...
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Zazen13 on July 27, 2008, 08:28:06 PM
I guess it depends all on skill level, patience and willingness to get out of the Spit XVI / La7 at least a few times :D

But seriously, I can well remember the times when I still had trouble to get enough perks for a 262. Maybe the shortcut is too tempting for some...

I guess I'm understanding that. But, answer me this question. If the motivation for doing this is to buy perk planes. What is the point of the perk plane at all if you've already manipulated your rank/score into some crazy, freakish thing you're probably not capable of replicating even in the perk plane you did this to get?
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Sloehand on July 27, 2008, 08:30:14 PM
Ack-Ack, did I inspire that new avatar with my comments about your name and Mars Attacks!!????  Are there any royalties in it for me?   :devil
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Lusche on July 27, 2008, 08:34:33 PM
I guess I'm understanding that. But, answer me this question. If the motivation for doing this is to buy perk planes. What is the point of the perk plane if you've already manipulated your rank/score into some crazy, freakish version of what you're probably not capable of replicating even in the perk plane you did this to get?

It's just about having to work less to keep flying perk planes in that case. It's often not even about rank, just about getting the "better" plane.


Oh, just for the record: I was only able to fly my first ME 262 after playing AH2 for 5 months(!). Now tell me a shortcut to an uber plane isn't tempting ;)
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Zazen13 on July 27, 2008, 08:38:21 PM
It's just about having to work less to keep flying perk planes in that case. It's often not even about rank, just about getting the "better" plane.


Oh, just for the record: I was only able to fly my first ME 262 after playing AH2 for 5 months(!). Now tell me a shortcut to an uber plane isn't tempting ;)

So you're telling me, people collaboratively spend countless hours ruining their score/rank they presumably don't care about to scoot around the MA in a 262 a few hours a month?
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Lusche on July 27, 2008, 08:40:22 PM
So you're telling me, people collaboratively spend countless hours ruining their score/rank they presumably don't care about to scoot around the MA in a 262 a few hours a month?


Yup. Not everybody is flying a 262 for rank.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Zazen13 on July 27, 2008, 08:41:37 PM
Yup. Not everybody is flying a 262 for rank.

Yea, so it's to fly a 262 more or less as a griefing tool then?
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Banshee7 on July 27, 2008, 08:42:53 PM
Yup. Not everybody is flying a 262 for rank.

i fly it for fun...  just now getting to where i can hit fighters with the taters while doing 500mph
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Lusche on July 27, 2008, 08:42:54 PM
Yea, so it's to fly a 262 more or less as a tool of griefing then?

Ehmm.. that seems to indicate that you think you can fly a 262 only for "griefing" or for rank?
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Zazen13 on July 27, 2008, 08:49:50 PM
Ehmm.. that seems to indicate that you think you can fly a 262 only for "griefing" or for rank?


Well, the entire reason it's 200 perks is because it's the only jet in a game of prop fighters. It costs that much because it's upsetting to game balance. Someone getting them basically for free would further upset game balance. It's upsetting to game balance because it can single-handedly destroy multiple buff formations with virtual impunity (among other things). This has the potential of marginalizing the effort of many legitimate players a flight. This would be especially true if the person in question was using his other account to vector himself to another country's missions. That would be the definition of griefing. I'm not implying a normal player would do that, but this type of person would and probably does.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 27, 2008, 08:52:24 PM
niether Biggamer or Dextur are in SHawks squad.

He finally got smart and kicked them out of WoT?


ack-ack
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: redman555 on July 27, 2008, 09:04:16 PM
lol, i kinda thinks its funny when u look in someones score and they got like 300 kills and 2 deaths lol in fighter, they either cherry pick/BNZ alot... or yea, kill another account


-BigBOBCH
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Dadsguns on July 27, 2008, 09:07:34 PM
Your kidding yourself if you think that these pethetic guys are doing it for the UBER rides, its all about getting their names in lights and legend.....

 :salute to the REAL pilots out there.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Banshee7 on July 27, 2008, 09:08:26 PM
He finally got smart and kicked them out of WoT?


ack-ack

not sure...they are in a squad together along with one other player.  IDK if they left or what happened..as i have not been a member of WoT for a month
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Zazen13 on July 27, 2008, 09:09:08 PM
lol, i kinda thinks its funny when u look in someones score and they got like 300 kills and 2 deaths lol in fighter, they either cherry pick/BNZ alot... or yea, kill another account


-BigBOBCH

You can always tell the difference. Anyone who gets that kind of tally BnZ'ing is usually going to have a totally crap-tacular Kills/Time ratio (5/Hr-). However, someone doing it the other way will almost certainly have a really good K/T (10/Hr+)
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: BMathis on July 27, 2008, 09:12:55 PM
Quote
Asking normal people why someone has to do that sort of thing  is kind of like asking a devout nun why prostitutes have sex for money...

Sig material.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: PFactorDave on July 27, 2008, 10:56:29 PM
I think most players that I personally have found doing such things did it actually to gain cheap perks that way.

That's pretty lame.  If I want to build up some fighter perkies, I find a furball and up an A6M2.  Pop a few Spit16s with an A6M2 and you get some pretty nice perkies.  More importantly, I'll bet it's waaaaay more fun then farming a shade.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: A8TOOL on July 27, 2008, 11:24:25 PM
I just would like to know why people would engage in an activity to gain some respect within the community when that activity is seen as one of the lamest things you can do.

ack-ack

Character flaw
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: lyric1 on July 27, 2008, 11:48:48 PM
Up until recently I did not care about people having more than 1 account. The more money they spend the sooner we get a better product from HTC. That was what I was thinking until in another similar post some one posted a link to cash rewards for top ranked players. Now I don't know if this practice still goes on but for the squeakers this to me would provide a great incentive to game the game.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: SFCHONDO on July 27, 2008, 11:54:24 PM
Why don't you PM these guys and ask them, you really think they are going to pop on here and answer your question?
All your going to get out of this thread is speculation from others as why they do such a retarded thing.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Xargos on July 27, 2008, 11:55:30 PM
The money reward thing is no longer going on.  But the vulching of a second account does cheat the ones who use the scoring system to judge their own progress.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: BaldEagl on July 28, 2008, 12:05:54 AM
Is Biggamer Axer?  If so their "dad" will be along shortly to explaIN how his "boys" are honorable players and don't do anything of the sort and how they are not allowed to partake in the BBs.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: lyric1 on July 28, 2008, 12:16:17 AM
The money reward thing is no longer going on.  But the vulching of a second account does cheat the ones who use the scoring system to judge their own progress.
If so for me I don't care spend away on several accounts. Give me more stuff within the game. The more they spend the sooner I get it.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Getback on July 28, 2008, 12:46:22 AM
The money reward thing is no longer going on.  But the vulching of a second account does cheat the ones who use the scoring system to judge their own progress.

I judge my progress by who is willing to fly with me or allows me to fly with them. So far so good  :D

Frankly if folks want to use 10 accounts I don't care. Good for them.  I only vulch Ronnie and whoever is in the offline arenas. Although I do wish they would fly straight now and then.

I find respect comes from being respectful and working as a team.

Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Chalenge on July 28, 2008, 12:48:20 AM
I have films of both the guys mentioned in this thread and neither of them were doing more then flying stukas with a large crowd of covering fighters. I cant imagine why unless they like flying stukas because they were bombing GVs and the 20 minutes to climb to 5k so they can kill one guy makes no sense to me.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: BiPoLaR on July 28, 2008, 12:51:47 AM
Is Biggamer Axer?  If so their "dad" will be along shortly to explaIN how his "boys" are honorable players and don't do anything of the sort and how they are not allowed to partake in the BBs.

LMFAO you remember that too..
did he say something about a lawyer or something...whatever it was it was funny as hell
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: DrDea on July 28, 2008, 01:12:26 AM
 Its just dweebs being dweebs.Most people know who the good sticks are in here and no amount of jagoffs vulching a shade will make anyone with a brain think they are good sticks.maby they have tiny apendages and need the boost to brag to teeny bopper girls about their 1337 haxxor 5ki11z.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: BiPoLaR on July 28, 2008, 01:13:59 AM
DrDea can i vulch you?
i need me some l33t skillz too
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Roscoroo on July 28, 2008, 01:33:12 AM
DrDea can i vulch you?
i need me some l33t skillz too

No U can't vulch him...thats my shade this tour.   :noid

Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 28, 2008, 01:35:40 AM
Why don't you PM these guys and ask them, you really think they are going to pop on here and answer your question?
All your going to get out of this thread is speculation from others as why they do such a retarded thing.

Why couldn't I PM them?  Because it was a general question for those that engage in this practice.  I, for one, am curious why someone would basically cheat in an pathetic attempt to gain accolades from the community.  Since both of these players do engage in this activity, I felt that maybe they could shed some insight into this so the rest of us in the community could understand their motivation. As for speculation, that would be the case if there wasn't any evidence to support what I've posted.  Since there is evidence, there is no speculation but rather cold hard facts.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Delirium on July 28, 2008, 01:36:04 AM
HTC should just disable scores and the problem would be solved.

Frankly, I don't care if 90% of the people in AH vulch second accounts, it doesn't affect me in ANY fashion.

Heck, if enough of these score monkey ego maniacs all vulch their second accounts maybe Hitech will hire another programmer with the money.

edit: if they want I'll blow my 30k perks and up 262s for their Hurri-1s. Just send me the $14.95 they would of spent...

Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: BiPoLaR on July 28, 2008, 01:47:52 AM
keep the stats (for reference of hit% and so on) improvment
get rid of score. ( to help kill toolshedding shade vulching twits)

Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Xargos on July 28, 2008, 01:49:31 AM
Keep scores but make them private.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: BiPoLaR on July 28, 2008, 01:49:56 AM
No U can't vulch him...thats my shade this tour.   :noid




That really hurt Ros...we cant share like these two do?
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Roscoroo on July 28, 2008, 02:04:30 AM
I'll let ya have Lusche this tour  :aok
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: BiPoLaR on July 28, 2008, 02:07:12 AM
hes slimy and other things... snails are  :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Xargos on July 28, 2008, 02:08:28 AM
hes slimy and other things... snails are  :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

No different then the girls you date. :devil
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Stoney on July 28, 2008, 02:10:08 AM
Is Biggamer Axer?  If so their "dad" will be along shortly to explaIN how his "boys" are honorable players and don't do anything of the sort and how they are not allowed to partake in the BBs.

I wish I had a screen shot of me and some of my squaddies flying against Biggamer in the MW after FSO last week.  He was talking so much smack after suffering his first two deaths of the tour--if he'd been my kid I would have sent him to bed sans dinner and had a discussion about sportsmanship.  If I'd known he was pulling this stuff, I would have probably hung around to shoot him down some more.  I'm afraid unless the perpetrators themselves have the guts to post in this thread, we'll truly never know. Then again, even if they do post, we'll probably never understand...
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: BiPoLaR on July 28, 2008, 02:14:20 AM
oh well Skuzz with most likely lock this thread and deal with them kids
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: LYNX on July 28, 2008, 03:18:02 AM
From the other thread started by Skyrock http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,241112.0.html   we now have our "corpus delicti".....yourfup.

The charge is "Willful premeditate score whoaring in the first degree".  Guilty or not guilty?




(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc288/lynx-AH/knot-hangmans-noose-black-backdrop-.jpg)

When the power's to be finally erase their score I hope it's done on the last day of this TOD.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Nilsen on July 28, 2008, 03:50:31 AM
Keep scores but make them private.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Max on July 28, 2008, 07:50:44 AM
What does one gain by vulching a 2nd account to gain rank?  Does having your name on the main page every month mean that much to you?  Is it that important to feel accepted by this community that you will engage in activity that this community frowns upon?  Does it give you a warm and fuzzy feeling everytime you log on you see yourself ranked #1?  Does it bother you that you had to basically cheat your way to the top?  Does it bother you that the community thinks lowly of players like you?

I'm curious to see what guys like Biggamer and Dextur would like to say on this subject, maybe we'll have their 'friend' yourfup pipe in too with his thoughts.



ack-ack

Having flown in the MW arena last week a few times, somehow this doesn't come as any suprize. Biggamer and his band of merry Rooks relish in their conquest of bases (undefended) Upon questioning BG and his gang of cartoon sidekicks what the point of "winning the war" against an non-defending populous was, the replies, mostly slaptalk and insults, were, looslely stated..."cuz we can...deal with it dweeb."

Oh yeah, that's challenging game play...hehe.

btw...why would HTC allow a cpid like yourfup to exist? Seems rather obvious what the name implies.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: uptown on July 28, 2008, 08:07:43 AM
I suspect the people involved in these kind of gamey antics are children and trying to figure out what their reasoning is, is pointless. Kids will be kids, simple as that.
If these people are grown men, well I just hope this game is not their only ambition or source of recognition in life, for that is truely a sad way to exist. And if it is, they can have #1, because they need it more then I do.
I'm ranked #1 here at home. That's the only score that matters to me. :salute
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: SlapShot on July 28, 2008, 08:11:07 AM
Your kidding yourself if you think that these pethetic guys are doing it for the UBER rides, its all about getting their names in lights and legend.....

 :salute to the REAL pilots out there.

Spot on here !!!
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: SlapShot on July 28, 2008, 08:21:42 AM
That was what I was thinking until in another similar post some one posted a link to cash rewards for top ranked players. Now I don't know if this practice still goes on but for the squeakers this to me would provide a great incentive to game the game.

That was the "Demon Seed" that has grown into the "Score Monster" that we see now. Prior to that, the mention of score(s) was mostly unheard of and meant as little back then, as it does now.

Even tho there is no cash involved anymore, it brought some sort of credence and validity to being #1 ... and now, players will do things that AKAK has pointed out, to get their name on the HTC homepage, thinking that it will bring them some sort of "elite fighter respect" amongst the AH community.

Respect and and being tagged with "elite/good fighter" is acquired through word-of-mouth, not a web page.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: SFCHONDO on July 28, 2008, 08:57:25 AM
Why couldn't I PM them?  Because it was a general question for those that engage in this practice.  I, for one, am curious why someone would basically cheat in an pathetic attempt to gain accolades from the community.  Since both of these players do engage in this activity, I felt that maybe they could shed some insight into this so the rest of us in the community could understand their motivation. As for speculation, that would be the case if there wasn't any evidence to support what I've posted.  Since there is evidence, there is no speculation but rather cold hard facts.


ack-ack

I understand it's a general question, but like I said, no idiot that does this will come on here to explain why They do it. The speculation i am refering to is the speculation from others as to these types of peoples motive. I am not disputing they don't do it. I am sure your a big boy and could come up with 10 different reasons why they might be doing this. I know I could, and I wouldn't need the help of others to to give me any possibilities why these guys do such a lame thing. I am just saying if you wanted to know why these two actually do this, you should PM them and ask them. Better chance of a responce then bringing it here, since you stated you wanted to know why they do it. I just highly doubt they will pop on here to explain it to the whole world. So to me unless you hear it directly from the horses mouth it's all speculation as to why they do it. 

Anyway I hope you understand what I mean, I do agree with you as far as it being a lame thing to do, I just feel that if you really wanted to know why they do it, ask them directly, cause I just don't think lamers like this will answer your question on the bbs for the whole world to see.  :salute Ack Ack
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: bongaroo on July 28, 2008, 09:02:35 AM
Shaming them is a good tatic.  And lots of fun to read about too!
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: SFCHONDO on July 28, 2008, 09:06:00 AM
Shaming them is a good tatic.  And lots of fun to read about too!

I AGREE, no arguement here   :D

He should of just done that to begin with then....LOL
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Goat1 on July 28, 2008, 09:32:33 AM
biggamer has 27 kills on yourfup midwar yourfup all in b24`s
biggamer has 31 kills on yourfup latewar yourfup 12 in b24 2 niki and 17 panzrs  :rofl

dextur has 2 kills on yourfup midwar yourfup b24
dextur has 28 kills on yourfup your died 11 b24`s 1 niki 16 panzrs  :rofl

both guys have same latewar kills on this shade
wonder if they split the cost :huh

meanwhile yourup has 0 kills on them
further prove scoring system is fubar

How do we find out the head to head kill stats we have?
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: SkyRock on July 28, 2008, 09:33:59 AM
I AGREE, no arguement here   :D

He should of just done that to begin with then....LOL
He did, wake up and smell the coffee, it's been brewing since page one. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: SlapShot on July 28, 2008, 09:36:20 AM
He did, wake up and smell the coffee, it's been brewing since page one. :rolleyes:

I am still on page 1 ... go to "Profile" and then "Look and Layout" and you can change the number of posts per page ... I changed it 100.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: SlapShot on July 28, 2008, 09:38:51 AM
How do we find out the head to head kill stats we have?

I guess you skipped right over this post ...

AH scorepages. Killstats in an expanded format. Select "player vs" "player". (Of course you have to know who you are looking for)

If I remember right, it doesn't used to work with firefox though...
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Sweet2th on July 28, 2008, 11:04:24 AM
I killed a second account before, but it was always another player that was being killed or doing the killing. :devil

The main reason for doing it, was to hear the others in the arena whine and complain, score is for tools. Plus it looked rather funny when you see Joedog landing 133 kills in a panzer, or doom landing 71 kills in a Bf-110-C. There was a bunch of players gathered one night, to the point where there was 6 of us sitting out there, and the player we were giving kills to had a crappy vid card so one of the 6 players on the ground fired a smoke round off which caused the person recieving the kills computer to freeze up (due to only having a 64MB video card) which resulted in him augering into the ground with 103 kills. Very funny stuff he was really angry.

The whole point of it was because some of us are ME-262 fiends, the type of player who doesn't hord perk points like a squirrel just to brag about how many you got to someone else, no the type of player who takes one out and doesn't care at all because the perks are so easy to get and 262's are just that much fun, especially when there are a bunch of ya up in them, win or lose thats a fun time.

But above all else the main reason for perk farming is to hear others cry about it.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: RumbleB on July 28, 2008, 11:15:28 AM
The hilarious thing is Biggamer used to be named Bigamer until I finally copped onto me laughing at him every damn time I saw him... I guess he figured out that "Bigamer" had quite a different meaning than what he was intending... but I after reading this thread I suppose not.

Biggamer is horribly low skilled but I guess that doesn't need to be added.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: SFCHONDO on July 28, 2008, 11:24:57 AM
He did, wake up and smell the coffee, it's been brewing since page one. :rolleyes:

 :noid
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: BiPoLaR on July 28, 2008, 11:29:19 AM
The hilarious thing is Biggamer used to be named Bigamer until I finally copped onto me laughing at him every damn time I saw him... I guess he figured out that "Bigamer" had quite a different meaning than what he was intending... but I after reading this thread I suppose not.

Biggamer is horribly low skilled but I guess that doesn't need to be added.


I have him on film cursing me out...its so funny...here ill tell you some of what he said

biggamer says : SQUEAK SQUEAK SQUEAK **** YOU SQUEAK YOU **** SQUEAK!!!!!!!!!!

dont think i left anything out
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: CAP1 on July 28, 2008, 12:20:53 PM
Frankly, I don't care what SHawk has to say about the subject, he's one of the main reasons these kids in his squadron do what they do.   I would like to hear Biggamer and Dextur's thoughts though.  Besides the humor factor, it would be a valuable insight to the inner workings of a squeaker's mind.


ack-ack

my personal opinion on why some do this?


i think they just like to see their names in lights. it makes em famous. they're heros in their own minds,. :O :D
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 28, 2008, 12:22:28 PM
I killed a second account before, but it was always another player that was being killed or doing the killing. :devil

The main reason for doing it, was to hear the others in the arena whine and complain, score is for tools. Plus it looked rather funny when you see Joedog landing 133 kills in a panzer, or doom landing 71 kills in a Bf-110-C. There was a bunch of players gathered one night, to the point where there was 6 of us sitting out there, and the player we were giving kills to had a crappy vid card so one of the 6 players on the ground fired a smoke round off which caused the person recieving the kills computer to freeze up (due to only having a 64MB video card) which resulted in him augering into the ground with 103 kills. Very funny stuff he was really angry.

The whole point of it was because some of us are ME-262 fiends, the type of player who doesn't hord perk points like a squirrel just to brag about how many you got to someone else, no the type of player who takes one out and doesn't care at all because the perks are so easy to get and 262's are just that much fun, especially when there are a bunch of ya up in them, win or lose thats a fun time.

But above all else the main reason for perk farming is to hear others cry about it.

Thanks for responding, I forgot you are also one of those tools that like to engage in this practice.  One question though, why do this for perks when you can easily get them through normal game play?  Is it because you suck so bad that you feel compelled to earn perks this way so you can show everyone how uber you are because you can fly a ME262 3 times out of the week?


ack-ack
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: SlapShot on July 28, 2008, 12:32:25 PM
The whole point of it was because some of us are ME-262 fiends, the type of player who doesn't hord perk points like a squirrel just to brag about how many you got to someone else, no the type of player who takes one out and doesn't care at all because the perks are so easy to get and 262's are just that much fun, especially when there are a bunch of ya up in them, win or lose thats a fun time.

So you vulch each other to get perk points so that you can fly 262's ... is that what you are saying ?
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: SlapShot on July 28, 2008, 12:36:46 PM
Why don't you PM these guys and ask them, you really think they are going to pop on here and answer your question?
All your going to get out of this thread is speculation from others as why they do such a retarded thing.

I guess you got your answer right here ...

I killed a second account before, but it was always another player that was being killed or doing the killing. :devil

The main reason for doing it, was to hear the others in the arena whine and complain, score is for tools. Plus it looked rather funny when you see Joedog landing 133 kills in a panzer, or doom landing 71 kills in a Bf-110-C. There was a bunch of players gathered one night, to the point where there was 6 of us sitting out there, and the player we were giving kills to had a crappy vid card so one of the 6 players on the ground fired a smoke round off which caused the person recieving the kills computer to freeze up (due to only having a 64MB video card) which resulted in him augering into the ground with 103 kills. Very funny stuff he was really angry.

The whole point of it was because some of us are ME-262 fiends, the type of player who doesn't hord perk points like a squirrel just to brag about how many you got to someone else, no the type of player who takes one out and doesn't care at all because the perks are so easy to get and 262's are just that much fun, especially when there are a bunch of ya up in them, win or lose thats a fun time.

But above all else the main reason for perk farming is to hear others cry about it.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Ghastly on July 28, 2008, 12:40:20 PM
The money reward thing is no longer going on.  But the vulching of a second account does cheat the ones who use the scoring system to judge their own progress.

I'm not sure I buy that argument.   I check some of the stats from time to time to guage how I'm doing, but when you use them that way, it's all relative to how you've flown in the past and what kinds of activities you've been engaging in, and I don't see how that can be affected by some dweeb cutting corners to pad their score.

<S>
 
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: JB11 on July 28, 2008, 01:00:36 PM
niether Biggamer or Dextur are in SHawks squad.
YES!!!! I finally did something to better a squad other than apply my mad insane skills!!! Or did I?  :noid
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Zazen13 on July 28, 2008, 01:57:15 PM
I killed a second account before, but it was always another player that was being killed or doing the killing. :devil

The main reason for doing it, was to hear the others in the arena whine and complain, score is for tools. Plus it looked rather funny when you see Joedog landing 133 kills in a panzer, or doom landing 71 kills in a Bf-110-C. There was a bunch of players gathered one night, to the point where there was 6 of us sitting out there, and the player we were giving kills to had a crappy vid card so one of the 6 players on the ground fired a smoke round off which caused the person recieving the kills computer to freeze up (due to only having a 64MB video card) which resulted in him augering into the ground with 103 kills. Very funny stuff he was really angry.

The whole point of it was because some of us are ME-262 fiends, the type of player who doesn't hord perk points like a squirrel just to brag about how many you got to someone else, no the type of player who takes one out and doesn't care at all because the perks are so easy to get and 262's are just that much fun, especially when there are a bunch of ya up in them, win or lose thats a fun time.

But above all else the main reason for perk farming is to hear others cry about it.

Wow! I mean just WOW!  :eek:

I'm going to be honest here. I've never been faced with this kind of unashamed, unrepentant honesty. I thought I would appreciate the intestinal fortitude it would take for someone to be this unabashed about admitting abhorrent behavior. But, actually reading this post feels like someone just punched me in the stomach. I feel the same way I did when I first heard about Catholic priests raping alter boys.  :O
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 28, 2008, 02:02:25 PM
Wow! I mean just WOW!  :eek:

I'm going to be honest here. I've never been faced with this kind of unashamed, unrepentant honesty. I thought I would appreciate the intestinal fortitude it would take for someone to be this unabashed about admitting abhorrent behavior. But, actually reading this post feels like someone just punched me in the stomach. I feel the same way I did when I first heard about a Catholic priests raping alter boys.  :O

And to think he wanted to be a trainer. 

ack-ack
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Zazen13 on July 28, 2008, 02:10:26 PM
And to think he wanted to be a trainer. 

ack-ack

Train people to do what?!?

-1 Lose all sense self-respect and be so self-deluded you honestly still think you're a "cool dude".
-2 Wallow in the murky depths of depravity and truly enjoy it. 
-3 Develop a gift for admitting moral bankruptcy to the world with a nauseating smile on your face....

Yea, he would have been a fabulous trainer with those singular talents to share...

 :O
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: angelsandair on July 28, 2008, 02:11:43 PM
Since you don't know the difference between a question and a whine.

Definition of Question: The act of asking; interrogation; inquiry; as, to examine by question and answer.

Definition of Whine: to complain with or as if with a whine.

I don't care if they vulch a shade account nor am I complaining that they are.  I just would like to know why people would engage in an activity to gain some respect within the community when that activity is seen as one of the lamest things you can do.



ack-ack

Didn't mean to offend ya :(  :(
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Steve on July 28, 2008, 03:05:55 PM
Thanks for responding, I forgot you are also one of those tools that like to engage in this practice.  One question though, why do this for perks when you can easily get them through normal game play?  Is it because you suck so bad that you feel compelled to earn perks this way so you can show everyone how uber you are because you can fly a ME262 3 times out of the week?

ack-ack

That guy is a complete and utter tool. Hey tool, perk farming is when you fly a high eny plane and get kills legitimately. What is this jackuncle's CPID, AKAK?

Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: angelsandair on July 28, 2008, 03:09:19 PM
biggamer has 27 kills on yourfup midwar yourfup all in b24`s
biggamer has 31 kills on yourfup latewar yourfup 12 in b24 2 niki and 17 panzrs  :rofl

dextur has 2 kills on yourfup midwar yourfup b24
dextur has 28 kills on yourfup your died 11 b24`s 1 niki 16 panzrs  :rofl

both guys have same latewar kills on this shade
wonder if they split the cost :huh

meanwhile yourup has 0 kills on them
further prove scoring system is fubar

Just curious, didn't HTC used to bann people for doing this?
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Zazen13 on July 28, 2008, 03:12:58 PM
Just curious, didn't HTC used to bann people for doing this?

Rule #1 of Fight Club is...we don't talk about Fight Club...
Rule #2 of Fight Club is...We don't talk........................
Rule #3 of Fight Club is........................... .................

......................<crickets chirping>.........................

......................<leaves rustling>............................

......<a lonely coyote howls in the far off distance>....




I hope you're smart enough to realise how that answers your question perfectly......Get the idea? ;)
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 28, 2008, 03:36:08 PM
See Rules #4, #5
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Shuffler on July 28, 2008, 03:38:38 PM
I saw 5 or 6 folks in EW arena one day so I dropped in to see what they could be doing. Sprkplg and all the others were on the same team just capturing bases. The was no one on either of the other teams. I just can't understand that mentality.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 28, 2008, 03:42:28 PM
I saw 5 or 6 folks in EW arena one day so I dropped in to see what they could be doing. Sprkplg and all the others were on the same team just capturing bases. The was no one on either of the other teams. I just can't understand that mentality.

Nor can I.  I just don't see the challenge or fun in attacking a base that is completely undefended but at least they were playing within the parameters set by the game.  Obviously, the same cannot be said of biggamer, Dextur or Todd420.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Zazen13 on July 28, 2008, 03:43:58 PM
I saw 5 or 6 folks in EW arena one day so I dropped in to see what they could be doing. Sprkplg and all the others were on the same team just capturing bases. The was no one on either of the other teams. I just can't understand that mentality.

I don't either..but I have a theory...

A lot of people cheat at solitaire in a room by themselves, wearing nothing but their stained underwear. Then jump-up with a celebratory shriek of glee, arms enthusiastically outstretched to form a 'V' for Victory when they win...Maybe those same people play AH too...That's my only guess...

Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: uptown on July 28, 2008, 03:45:06 PM
I saw 5 or 6 folks in EW arena one day so I dropped in to see what they could be doing. Sprkplg and all the others were on the same team just capturing bases. The was no one on either of the other teams. I just can't understand that mentality.


 :rofl :rofl that's about the lamest thing I've ever heard  :lol
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: uptown on July 28, 2008, 03:46:14 PM
I don't either..but I have a theory...

A lot of people cheat at solitaire in a room by themselves, wearing nothing but their stained underwear, then jump up with a celebratory shriek of glee, arms enthusiastically outstretched to form a 'V' for Victory when they win...Maybe those same people play AH too...That's my only guess...



I must start closing my curtains  :uhoh
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Zazen13 on July 28, 2008, 03:48:10 PM
I must start closing my curtains  :uhoh

<Puts lense cap back on telescope>

<breathes a heavy sigh of disappointment>



 :devil
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: angelsandair on July 28, 2008, 03:48:48 PM
<Puts lense cap back on telescope>

<breathes a heavy sigh of disappointment>



 :devil
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: uptown on July 28, 2008, 03:52:37 PM
 :D that'll learn ya!
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: ROX on July 28, 2008, 04:02:58 PM
This thread may not end well.







And...as a public service:








(http://www.entertainmentworlds.com/vd.jpg)


Carry on.





ROX
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: crockett on July 28, 2008, 04:06:49 PM
I tried to vulch my self once but I only augered.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 28, 2008, 04:09:12 PM
<Puts lense cap back on telescope>

<breathes a heavy sigh of disappointment>



 :devil

LOL!


ack-ack
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Steve on July 28, 2008, 04:12:48 PM
he's our resident village idiot, Todd420/1HungLow/Jadgtanker are some of the names he's gone by in the past.


ack-ack

Ahhh I ran into him when he was 1hunglo.... he sucked and ran his mouth.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: BaldEagl on July 28, 2008, 04:18:51 PM
Ahhh I ran into him when he was 1hunglo.... he sucked and ran his mouth.

You'd think sucking would keep your mouth from running... guess not.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Zazen13 on July 28, 2008, 04:48:52 PM
You'd think sucking would keep your mouth from running... guess not.

If only that were true... I'd be able to tolerate flying for Bish, relishing in the tranquility of peace and quiet.










Sorry, couldn't resist... :devil
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Rich46yo on July 28, 2008, 05:13:03 PM
I'd hit that. And wouldnt be worrying about VD.

Let me see if I have this right, without reading the 70% of posts which are moronic, some guys actually purchase two accounts so they can kills themselves in the one account while flying in the other? You gotta be kidding!


This thread may not end well.


And...as a public service:








(http://www.entertainmentworlds.com/vd.jpg)


Carry on.





ROX
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Zazen13 on July 28, 2008, 05:23:41 PM

 some guys actually purchase two accounts so they can kills themselves in the one account while flying in the other? You gotta be kidding!



Here's the Cliff's Notes Instructions to make sense of this thread:

1) Purge your stomach of all it's contents (trust me on this one)
2) Read Ack-ack's initial post.
3) Flip to page 6 and read Sweet2h's post.
4) I'll wait 10 minutes while you dry heave uncontrollably...



<whistles a toon then looks at watch>



5) Aren't you glad you listened to me and performed step #1?
6) Question the truth that all human souls are intrinsically divine in nature...
7) Drink heavily and play AH...

Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: angelsandair on July 28, 2008, 05:25:31 PM
I tried to vulch my self once but I only augered.
:lol :lol :lol

Sig material
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Sweet2th on July 28, 2008, 05:27:20 PM
wow i am impressed by the friendly comments, truly i am.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: SectorNine50 on July 28, 2008, 05:29:51 PM
wow i am impressed by the friendly comments, truly i am.
What did you expect...? :confused:
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Sweet2th on July 28, 2008, 05:30:48 PM
What did you expect...? :confused:

i expected more from the penny loafer gang really i did.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Zazen13 on July 28, 2008, 05:37:03 PM
wow i am impressed by the friendly comments, truly i am.

Don't take this the wrong way, but your "taxi cab confession" was to our beloved community the same thing as going to the Doctor only to be told you have a scorching case of the Clap. I just hope, unlike the poor patient and his diseased wiener, there's no antibiotics and you "fall-off" and "rot away"...
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 28, 2008, 05:53:54 PM
wow i am impressed by the friendly comments, truly i am.

If you like to play in the sewer, you really shouldn't be surprised when someone says that you stink.

But as I mentioned in my earlier reply to you, thank you for your insight into a squeaker's mind.  It is really sad that in an attempt to garner attention that you would basically cheat in hopes that we would accept you as an equal.  Boy, I guess you were seriously wrong on that point, eh?


ack-ack
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Bronk on July 28, 2008, 06:27:17 PM
I'd at this time like to thank Ack-Ack for the entertainment.  :aok
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Zazen13 on July 28, 2008, 07:24:05 PM
I'd at this time like to thank Ack-Ack for the entertainment.  :aok

No kidding, this thread is like a really bad car accident. It's horrific and gruesome, but I can't stop looking at it all the same... :O
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: SkyRock on July 28, 2008, 10:43:33 PM
SkyRock<---drunk and happy to attend! :aok
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Raptor on July 28, 2008, 10:46:35 PM
I vulch my shades all the time, it's the only way I can get any kills! But I am not too creative with names... so it easy to tell which ones my shades are.

RaptorL
Raptor31
Raptor34
Raptor64
68Raptor
LtaRaptr

Just to name a few :noid
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: SkyRock on July 28, 2008, 10:52:03 PM
I vulch my shades all the time, it's the only way I can get any kills! But I am not too creative with names... so it easy to tell which ones my shades are.

RaptorL
Raptor31
Raptor34
Raptor64
68Raptor
LtaRaptr

Just to name a few :noid
Holy laugh batman! :rofl
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: BiPoLaR on July 28, 2008, 10:56:34 PM
SkyRock and Kappa are my shades...but they seem to shoot back  :eek: :eek:
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Becinhu on July 28, 2008, 11:10:50 PM
My shade account always either Hos or rams me...I must  be worse than I originally thought......

 :uhoh
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: lyric1 on July 29, 2008, 01:56:26 AM
Where are kids getting all this pocket money now days? Granted it was a while when I was earning pocket change for cutting grass.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 29, 2008, 03:08:05 AM
I'd at this time like to thank Ack-Ack for the entertainment.  :aok

Thank you, thank you very much for the kind words.  But I must be honest in saying that this wouldn't have been at all possible if it wasn't for Biggaymer and Dextur.  I think we should all thank them for the entertainment this thread has provided us.  Let us all give a hearty <S> to those two and may they continue to make us laugh for the years to come.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: SD67 on July 29, 2008, 04:05:26 AM
A lot of people cheat at solitaire in a room by themselves,
Isn't that kinda like faking an orgasm during masturbation?
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: storch on July 29, 2008, 04:27:06 AM
Why a few weeks back I started a thread to remove the score potatos from main page news, stick them at the back of the website where they belong.


<S>...-Gixer

not all of those players are score potatos.  N72 is consistently number one in fighters in the MW he is a clean player and does not pad nor does he play for score.  furthermore, in my opinion he is amongst the very best ever players I have run across to play this game.

you can't one size fits all.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Zazen13 on July 29, 2008, 07:26:28 AM
Isn't that kinda like faking an orgasm during masturbation?

I like how your mind works!


Great example! :rofl
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: valdals on July 29, 2008, 07:29:17 AM
dextur was ranked 15 in gvs and was ranked 1 in less than 2 hours. at one point he was no.1 in 3 catagories. i wondered how he did that.  :(
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: valdals on July 29, 2008, 07:31:08 AM
find yourfup and kill him before they do   :D
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: SlapShot on July 29, 2008, 07:53:26 AM
not all of those players are score potatos.  N72 is consistently number one in fighters in the MW he is a clean player and does not pad nor does he play for score.  furthermore, in my opinion he is amongst the very best ever players I have run across to play this game.

you can't one size fits all.

N72 is a class fighter ... but I don't thing that he could ever be accused of being a "score potato" ... unless he starts killing you a lot ...  ;)

Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Oldman731 on July 29, 2008, 08:07:09 AM
not all of those players are score potatos.  N72 is consistently number one in fighters in the MW he is a clean player and does not pad nor does he play for score.  furthermore, in my opinion he is amongst the very best ever players I have run across to play this game.

I've never seen one who was better, so I don't know where you're getting this "among" word from.  Point is that N72 probably doesn't even know what his score is, and would not be disturbed if it were placed somewhere at the bottom of the screen.  I think that's true of most of the really great players.  I've always thought that eliminating score would eliminate a lot of the dreadful flying practices that can mar this game.

- oldman
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: RTHolmes on July 29, 2008, 08:12:22 AM
just an idea - there are separate scores for each of the EW, MW and LW, how about separate perks for each arena too?

That would at least stop perk farming in the empty EW or MW to use those perks in the LW.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Bruv119 on July 29, 2008, 08:13:35 AM
just an idea - there are separate scores for each of the EW, MW and LW, how about separate perks for each arena too?

That would at least stop perk farming in the empty EW or MW to use those perks in the LW.

ding ding   common sense alert !
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: storch on July 29, 2008, 08:40:16 AM
I've never seen one who was better, so I don't know where you're getting this "among" word from.  Point is that N72 probably doesn't even know what his score is, and would not be disturbed if it were placed somewhere at the bottom of the screen.  I think that's true of most of the really great players.  I've always thought that eliminating score would eliminate a lot of the dreadful flying practices that can mar this game.

- oldman
there are many great players in this game and oftentimes the outcome of a match is determined by someone having an off day.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Sweet2th on July 29, 2008, 08:49:21 AM
If you like to play in the sewer, you really shouldn't be surprised when someone says that you stink.

But as I mentioned in my earlier reply to you, thank you for your insight into a squeaker's mind.  It is really sad that in an attempt to garner attention that you would basically cheat in hopes that we would accept you as an equal.  Boy, I guess you were seriously wrong on that point, eh?


ack-ack

wow you do try hard at bein the internet tough guy

it is an hour to have you ridin my ankle all this time
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: angelsandair on July 29, 2008, 08:51:51 AM
find yourfup and kill him before they do   :D

Hopefully, Dextur, Biggamer, and Yourfup just sorta, well disappear......
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: BaldEagl on July 29, 2008, 09:22:10 AM
it is an hour to have you ridin...

 :confused:
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Becinhu on July 29, 2008, 09:35:57 AM

it is an hour to have you ridin my ankle all this time
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that would be squeaker grammar there BE
 :huh
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: BigPlay on July 29, 2008, 10:49:01 AM
What does one gain by vulching a 2nd account to gain rank?  Does having your name on the main page every month mean that much to you?  Is it that important to feel accepted by this community that you will engage in activity that this community frowns upon?  Does it give you a warm and fuzzy feeling everytime you log on you see yourself ranked #1?  Does it bother you that you had to basically cheat your way to the top?  Does it bother you that the community thinks lowly of players like you?

I'm curious to see what guys like Biggamer and Dextur would like to say on this subject, maybe we'll have their 'friend' yourfup pipe in too with his thoughts.



ack-ack


I think anyone that is number 1 or in the top 10 spends quite a bit of time milking. We have all done it and it didn't take long before I realized that it was a waste of time. I really think other than maybe a few stats the score thing should be removed. It actually hurts the game in the way it dictates the style of play for many. This game for me is a form of compition  and for a guy like me who can't do it on the playing field anymore enjoys what this game offers in that department. It's not just chasing number 1 it's running from fights just to keep their K to D ratio up, It's having m3's with supplies sitting behind  Tigers fighting T-34's and Panzers, just so they don't lose a Tiger. I mean come on..........Play the game for fun not for ego. I find it getting harder to find guys who will fight on equal ground anymore. It's seems like people need an advantage before engaging anymore. Now that is not everyone but it is the majority of people playing this game. The new people are learning all these bad habits rather quick now from these guys. I suspect that it will one day kill this game.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Lusche on July 29, 2008, 11:06:48 AM
It's not just chasing number 1 it's running from fights just to keep their K to D ratio up,


Just a minor note:

If you spend too much time running, you won't get a top spot rank even with a "superior" K/D. Your K/S and K/T suffer too much.
Once you're past K/D 5.0 or so, you do not gain much from further increasing it, rankwise. Trying to protect your K/D can be detrimental to rank, if that's what one is going for.
Currently #1 fighter has K/D 6.94, #49 a K/D of 16.0

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It's having m3's with supplies sitting behind  Tigers fighting T-34's and Panzers, just so they don't lose a Tiger. I mean come on..........Play the game for fun not for ego.

Tigers are not invulnerable (especially not when the eny brings an expendable M4), they cost perks, and often a Tiger is the last defense about incoming GV hordes a base has. I see nothing bad in supporting a teammate in the MA's, be it running supplies to him or flying as his wingman. It's a battle out there...
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: BigPlay on July 29, 2008, 11:52:16 AM
Those are general answers . They aren't necessarily the answer for what I'm referring to. If your Tiger cost 10 perks which theirs did and your in open field combat (able to see all oncoming enemies) which they could  and the odds are even and it was and  you have a plane flying overhead spotting for you and they did and  your fighting tanks you can kill 1 shot at range. Why do you need supplies? All it did was stop a good GV battle. We had to move in close to even be able to kill their Tigers . This happened in Miidwar so M4's weren't available. There was no airfield near by so there wasn't an air threat for them. What I'm trying to say is that too much rank monging is going on rather that what I presume the game was intended for. I didn't consider you as one of them so nothing is directed towards you.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 29, 2008, 12:20:36 PM
wow you do try hard at bein the internet tough guy

it is an hour to have you ridin my ankle all this time

You really should read your 'confession' and then come back and tell me who is trying to be an 'intardnet toughguy'.  Frankly, I am rather surprised that you didn't expect the reception you got after your confession.  The fact that you did what you did and then come here on these boards unrepentent for cheating just goes to show what kind of individual you are both in game and in real life.

Here's another clue that you just can't seem to grasp.  The attitude of the community towards you is solely of your own making.  When people think of the dumb arses in this game, your name always seems to come out on top.  I wonder why that is?


ack-ack
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: BigPlay on July 29, 2008, 12:37:48 PM
not all of those players are score potatos.  N72 is consistently number one in fighters in the MW he is a clean player and does not pad nor does he play for score.  furthermore, in my opinion he is amongst the very best ever players I have run across to play this game.

you can't one size fits all.

I concur !
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Zazen13 on July 29, 2008, 02:27:35 PM
wow you do try hard at bein the internet tough guy

it is an hour to have you ridin my ankle all this time

And that brings me to my next point, kids... :pray





Don't smoke crack! :O
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Zazen13 on July 29, 2008, 02:43:02 PM

I think anyone that is number 1 or in the top 10 spends quite a bit of time milking. We have all done it and it didn't take long before I realized that it was a waste of time. I really think other than maybe a few stats the score thing should be removed. It actually hurts the game in the way it dictates the style of play for many. This game for me is a form of compition  and for a guy like me who can't do it on the playing field anymore enjoys what this game offers in that department. It's not just chasing number 1 it's running from fights just to keep their K to D ratio up, It's having m3's with supplies sitting behind  Tigers fighting T-34's and Panzers, just so they don't lose a Tiger. I mean come on..........Play the game for fun not for ego. I find it getting harder to find guys who will fight on equal ground anymore. It's seems like people need an advantage before engaging anymore. Now that is not everyone but it is the majority of people playing this game. The new people are learning all these bad habits rather quick now from these guys. I suspect that it will one day kill this game.

There's a few errors in that.

1) A few "Stuka Nukes"  on some virgin factories is all the "milking" you need to do so long as you don't "egg" anything else to mess up those stats. You can have a top 25 Bomber and Attack rank easily with 1 hour a month of this if you do some quality fightering in attack mode and get a goon capture.

2) Flying purely for K/D is the fastest way to completely and utterly "bork" your fighter rank. If you have the #1 K/D you're practically guaranteed to have the #578th+ K/T and your K/S is almost certainly going to be too poor as well. Those two sub-components (K/D & K/T) are practically mutually exclusive. You need to balance them if you want a pretty fighter rank. Dying for 5 more kills is FAR, FAR, far better for your fighter rank than getting only two more kills then running away to avoid dying to the other three and landing. Running and RTB'ing to land are extremely time consuming. So long as you have the gunnery to kill 5+ a hop on average when all goes well, you're far better off, in terms of fighter rank, killing as many as you possibly can while dying in the process for a fresh plane. You'll have at least a 5 to 1 K/D ratio even if you never live to land a single pelt all tour, that's plenty and your K/T will be incredible.

3) You don't need to spawncamp in GV's for a good vehicle rank either, getting good with AA GV's (M16, Osti, Whirble) is just as good so long as you Tank down a couple of towns or strats with HE's, do one good PT Boat rocket salvo and get a M3 capture...

Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Guppy35 on July 29, 2008, 02:50:12 PM

I think anyone that is number 1 or in the top 10 spends quite a bit of time milking. We have all done it and it didn't take long before I realized that it was a waste of time. I really think other than maybe a few stats the score thing should be removed. It actually hurts the game in the way it dictates the style of play for many. This game for me is a form of compition  and for a guy like me who can't do it on the playing field anymore enjoys what this game offers in that department. It's not just chasing number 1 it's running from fights just to keep their K to D ratio up, It's having m3's with supplies sitting behind  Tigers fighting T-34's and Panzers, just so they don't lose a Tiger. I mean come on..........Play the game for fun not for ego. I find it getting harder to find guys who will fight on equal ground anymore. It's seems like people need an advantage before engaging anymore. Now that is not everyone but it is the majority of people playing this game. The new people are learning all these bad habits rather quick now from these guys. I suspect that it will one day kill this game.

Anyone that pays attention to a top 10 anything in this game is missing the point of playing the game in my opinion.   Kill scoring and attaboy messages completely and you'd have a lot more combat/competition
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: BiPoLaR on July 29, 2008, 02:53:13 PM
Anyone that pays attention to a top 10 anything in this game is missing the point of playing the game in my opinion.   Kill scoring and attaboy messages completely and you'd have a lot more combat/competition
i agree 110%
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Obie303 on July 29, 2008, 02:55:18 PM
And that brings me to my next point, kids... :pray





Don't smoke crack! :O

 :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 29, 2008, 03:01:35 PM
Ran into Biggaymer last night in the MW and boy, was it really funny.  I, along with a few others, asked him why he cheated.  His response was "Why are you asking such meany questions?" followed by "DA NOW!" LOL

ack-ack
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: BiPoLaR on July 29, 2008, 03:34:44 PM
Ran into Biggaymer last night in the MW and boy, was it really funny.  I, along with a few others, asked him why he cheated.  His response was "Why are you asking such meany questions?" followed by "DA NOW!" LOL

ack-ack

I asked him the same thing and he said

"HT banned you years ago for cheating"  :huh :huh :confused: :confused:


Kid is reaching out man
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Bronk on July 29, 2008, 04:38:38 PM
You really should read your 'confession' and then come back and tell me who is trying to be an 'intardnet toughguy'.  Frankly, I am rather surprised that you didn't expect the reception you got after your confession.  The fact that you did what you did and then come here on these boards unrepentent for cheating just goes to show what kind of individual you are both in game and in real life.

Here's another clue that you just can't seem to grasp.  The attitude of the community towards you is solely of your own making.  When people think of the dumb arses in this game, your name always seems to come out on top.  I wonder why that is?


ack-ack
Just to add onto this a bit. If a person has to cheat on something as trivial as a cartoon air combat. What won't they cheat on?



























































Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: 2bighorn on July 29, 2008, 04:58:40 PM
Just to add onto this a bit. If a person has to cheat on something as trivial as a cartoon air combat. What won't they cheat on?

Quick, somebody call 911  :noid
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Zazen13 on July 29, 2008, 05:05:52 PM
Just to add onto this a bit. If a person has to cheat on something as trivial as a cartoon air combat. What won't they cheat on?

The Federal prison system is full to capacity with people like Sweet2h, one day he'll find "a cheat too far". Then he'll find himself in his cell, painting the toenails of his hulking, nymphomaniac boyfriend, Bubba, while worrying nervously about anal incontinence...

Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: BigPlay on July 29, 2008, 05:12:30 PM
There's a few errors in that.

1) A few "Stuka Nukes"  on some virgin factories is all the "milking" you need to do so long as you don't "egg" anything else to mess up those stats. You can have a top 25 Bomber and Attack rank easily with 1 hour a month of this if you do some quality fightering in attack mode and get a goon capture.

2) Flying purely for K/D is the fastest way to completely and utterly "bork" your fighter rank. If you have the #1 K/D you're practically guaranteed to have the #578th+ K/T and your K/S is almost certainly going to be too poor as well. Those two sub-components (K/D & K/T) are practically mutually exclusive. You need to balance them if you want a pretty fighter rank. Dying for 5 more kills is FAR, FAR, far better for your fighter rank than getting only two more kills then running away to avoid dying to the other three and landing. Running and RTB'ing to land are extremely time consuming. So long as you have the gunnery to kill 5+ a hop on average when all goes well, you're far better off, in terms of fighter rank, killing as many as you possibly can while dying in the process for a fresh plane. You'll have at least a 5 to 1 K/D ratio even if you never live to land a single pelt all tour, that's plenty and your K/T will be incredible.

3) You don't need to spawncamp in GV's for a good vehicle rank either, getting good with AA GV's (M16, Osti, Whirble) is just as good so long as you Tank down a couple of towns or strats with HE's, do one good PT Boat rocket salvo and get a M3 capture...



and then what......... hide ? You stiil have to play to the system , correct?    Like I said I wish they would just do away with the ranks . I think more players would be a little more eager to play the player rather than the game. At least that's what I  think.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Zazen13 on July 29, 2008, 05:18:51 PM
and then what......... hide ? You stiil have to play to the system , correct?    Like I said I wish they would just do away with the ranks . I think more players would be a little more eager to play the player rather than the game. At least that's what I  think.

Well, most people I know personally who rank well, at least in fighters, simply use fighter sorties for their perk plane sorties and attack for their standard non-perked ride(s). They don't fly timidly at all, they just split them like that and are very effective at killing. If that's "gaming the game", then I guess so, but not in my personal opinion. Some I know just accidentally rank highly in fighters by doing that simply to keep their perk ride stats separate from their normal ride for their own, personal self-comparison from tour to tour, it's not even intentional.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Steve on July 29, 2008, 07:32:36 PM
Well, most people I know personally who rank well, at least in fighters, simply use fighter sorties for their perk plane sorties and attack for their standard non-perked ride(s). They  fly timidly in fighter mode.

fixed.


Some people fly regular old fighters in fighter mode, not too worried about stats.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Shuffler on July 29, 2008, 07:43:29 PM
I had someone in MW rell me I flew the 38 because I was afraid to lose my perk points....  :rofl
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Zazen13 on July 29, 2008, 07:48:22 PM
fixed.


Some people fly regular old fighters in fighter mode, not too worried about stats.

Yup, especially people who only really fly one plane type. In that situation there is no need to score attack at all unless you want to egg or strafe something. In my example of the person who fighter ranks accidentally, it's because they want to keep two completely different plane types separate so they can indvidually evaluate their performance statistically each tour, in each plane, in order to accurately guage relative improvement.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: storch on July 29, 2008, 08:33:01 PM
and then what......... hide ? You stiil have to play to the system , correct?    Like I said I wish they would just do away with the ranks . I think more players would be a little more eager to play the player rather than the game. At least that's what I  think.
except that some people, most people need to things for rewards.  that's why I'm sometimes scolded because I'm not helping to "win the war"  some folks just don't grasp the concept of loving something for the simple doing of it.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: sethipus on July 31, 2008, 03:57:13 AM
It is certainly disappointing to learn about the cheating.  That really sucks.

As far as Fighter and Attack mode goes, I actually pay attention to this, and I fly in Fighter mode when I'm anticipating only Air to Air, and I fly Attack mode when I bring bombs and rockets and intend to pound the ground.  Seems pretty reasonable to me.

As far as flying the 262 goes, I really enjoy it.  I like to fly it, and I fly it fairly often, and reasonably successfully.  I don't think there's anything wrong with that, and I don't agree with anyone who might throw "he likes to fly the 262" out there as some kind of dig.

Btw, one doesn't have to milkrun to have a good bomber score.  For whatever reason, this month I reacted to CV attacks fairly often by grabbing AR234s and killing the carriers, and doing that enough resulted in a pretty high bomber score, probably because of high hit%, d/d and d/s.  I don't think there's anything dweebish about bombing carriers that are attacking one's base, either, so nobody start.

I think there's too much criticism of others' choice of playing style.  I draw the line at stuff like what Biggamer apparently has done, because that's just way more than ghey and over the top.  But other than obvious cheats like this, I think if people want to only dogfight, that's fine, if they want to attack bases, that's fine, if they like capturing bases and winning maps, that's fine, if they want to GV, that's fine.  I personally like to do it all. 
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: DrDea on July 31, 2008, 04:18:56 AM
 I dont think Ive checked my score in over 6 or 7 months.Probebly a good thing.I dont need the depression :rofl
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Bubbajj on July 31, 2008, 04:23:49 AM
I don't get it. Two accounts? At the same time? I have a hard enough time flying one plane at a time, much less two  :confused:
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: DrDea on July 31, 2008, 04:32:25 AM
 Ya dont really fly the second.Ya just take off and make it real easy for the second tiny wanged guy to aim.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Getback on July 31, 2008, 06:13:07 AM
Just to add onto this a bit. If a person has to cheat on something as trivial as a cartoon air combat. What won't they cheat on?

That is the exact question I always ask myself. How far into their life does it go?




























































Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Rich46yo on July 31, 2008, 10:15:57 AM
You really should read your 'confession' and then come back and tell me who is trying to be an 'intardnet toughguy'.  Frankly, I am rather surprised that you didn't expect the reception you got after your confession.  The fact that you did what you did and then come here on these boards unrepentent for cheating just goes to show what kind of individual you are both in game and in real life.

Here's another clue that you just can't seem to grasp.  The attitude of the community towards you is solely of your own making.  When people think of the dumb arses in this game, your name always seems to come out on top.  I wonder why that is?


ack-ack

Now hes the community spokeskid.

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That is the exact question I always ask myself. How far into their life does it go?

Meanwhile, back at the airbase, Bronk waxes philosophical. :lol
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 31, 2008, 12:34:23 PM
Now hes the community spokeskid.

YATTA!  I've got another ankle humper   :cool:


ack-ack
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Rich46yo on July 31, 2008, 03:26:28 PM
Im actually far more impressed with Bronk. That was very deep thinking for him. Here, Ill post it again.

Quote
Just to add onto this a bit. If a person has to cheat on something as trivial as a cartoon air combat. What won't they cheat on?

That is the exact question I always ask myself. How far into their life does it go?

Now, repeat after me, "I think, therefor I am".

Thats very impressive Bronk.

BTW Ackie, whats an ankle humper?
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: mensa180 on July 31, 2008, 03:42:30 PM
I think it's the reverse for most of them.  They are quiet and shy in real life, and never take any risks.  Score padding and cheating in AH is their "big thrill" in life. 

Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: bongaroo on July 31, 2008, 03:52:32 PM
good for them to be virtually living dangerously     :lol
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Bronk on July 31, 2008, 04:10:52 PM
Im actually far more impressed with Bronk. That was very deep thinking for him. Here, Ill post it again.

Now, repeat after me, "I think, therefor I am".

Thats very impressive Bronk.

BTW Ackie, whats an ankle humper?

No rich it's common sense, something certain people people lack.
I was pointing it out for those who lack it. Glad you latched on to it. :aok
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 31, 2008, 04:32:23 PM

BTW Ackie, whats an ankle humper?

Man, you make this very easy for me.  Look in the mirror.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: storch on July 31, 2008, 04:36:05 PM
<hands akak a roll of industrial grade paper towels>
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 31, 2008, 04:36:17 PM
No rich it's common sense, something certain people people lack.
I was pointing it out for those who lack it. Glad you latched on to it. :aok

Looks like you have an ankle humper too.  What did you do, shoot his chute?



ack-ack
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: LYNX on August 01, 2008, 01:35:40 PM
Looks like the appeal court (htc) has over ruled all the speculation. 

Biggamer on the home pages " Not Guilty".
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: VansCrew1 on August 01, 2008, 01:37:54 PM
biggamer has 27 kills on yourfup midwar yourfup all in b24`s
biggamer has 31 kills on yourfup latewar yourfup 12 in b24 2 niki and 17 panzrs  :rofl

dextur has 2 kills on yourfup midwar yourfup b24
dextur has 28 kills on yourfup your died 11 b24`s 1 niki 16 panzrs  :rofl

both guys have same latewar kills on this shade
wonder if they split the cost :huh

meanwhile yourup has 0 kills on them
further prove scoring system is fubar


 :rofl
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Rich46yo on August 01, 2008, 01:40:08 PM
No rich it's common sense, something certain people people lack.
I was pointing it out for those who lack it. Glad you latched on to it. :aok

No, dont belittle yourself dude. It was deep, truly "deep".


Quote
Man, you make this very easy for me.  Look in the mirror.

Unlike this human equivelant of a feminine hygiene implement.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Steve on August 01, 2008, 02:45:37 PM
Last night Dextur was fighting on the deck, with Biggamer circling above him. Biggamer never came down except for once when Dextur said "I've got a 190 on me"


 :lol
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: SkyRock on August 01, 2008, 03:45:04 PM
Looks like the appeal court (htc) has over ruled all the speculation. 

Biggamer on the home pages " Not Guilty".
That's a shame, I wonder why they didn't take the proper action?
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: SlapShot on August 01, 2008, 04:37:52 PM
Guess we got a couple more in MW in the first day of this Tour.

Saw eagle345 land 70 kills in a Panzer ... said it was from spawn camping ... looked at his score ... 183 kills in a Panzer in 1 day.

Then saw woody002 land 24 kills in a P38-J ... I later encountered him while getting fighting a Ki-61 and a Mossy ... he auger/compressed on his attack ... not quite what I would expect from a guy that just landed 24 kills.

Mind you .. all this killing was when the arena never had more than 30 people in too.

I just don't get it.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Lusche on August 01, 2008, 04:58:31 PM
Guess we got a couple more in MW in the first day of this Tour.

Saw eagle345 land 70 kills in a Panzer ... said it was from spawn camping ... looked at his score ... 183 kills in a Panzer in 1 day.


Always do a quick screenshot of the roster when seeing that. MW hasn't large population, should be easy.  ;)
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 01, 2008, 05:15:10 PM
That's a shame, I wonder why they didn't take the proper action?

This is how they do it.  Dextur logs in on yourfup, ups B-24s or Lancasters and Biggamer then vulches for a bit.  Then Biggamer logs on with yourfup, ups B-24s or Lancasters and Dextur vulches for a bit.  The reason they do it this way is if they are reported to HTC and it's looked at, it will show yourfup and whoever is vulching at the time on two different IP addresses.  This apparently is enough to cause reasonable doubt that score padding is going on and not their story of, "Gee, we just happened to find this newbie that kept upping buffs.  It's not our fault we found this guy in two seperate arenas." 


ack-ack
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Lusche on August 01, 2008, 05:21:25 PM
This is how they do it.  Dextur logs in on yourfup, ups B-24s or Lancasters and Biggamer then vulches for a bit.  Then Biggamer logs on with yourfup, ups B-24s or Lancasters and Dextur vulches for a bit.  The reason they do it this way is if they are reported to HTC and it's looked at, it will show yourfup and whoever is vulching at the time on two different IP addresses.  This apparently is enough to cause reasonable doubt that score padding is going on and not their story of, "Gee, we just happened to find this newbie that kept upping buffs.  It's not our fault we found this guy in two seperate arenas." 


ack-ack

That doesn't help those kids every time. Sometimes the evidence presented is still overhwelming. :)
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 01, 2008, 05:22:14 PM

Then saw woody002 land 24 kills in a P38-J ... I later encountered him while getting fighting a Ki-61 and a Mossy ... he auger/compressed on his attack ... not quite what I would expect from a guy that just landed 24 kills.

I just don't get it.

Looks like he was vulching a Panzer IV H.  24 kills.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: LYNX on August 02, 2008, 04:32:34 AM
oh well.....all I can say is I'll be throwing me teddy out me pram, big style, if one of these interferes with me boats.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: nimble on August 02, 2008, 11:51:36 AM
The scoring system has been fubar'd since inception. I am amazed at the amount of vets who actually still bring this topic up. If this is an actual question instead of a hidden name and shame I'd be surprised. Seriously, everyone who has played more than 2 months and doesn't realize that the scoring system HTC has provided isn't total rubbish with more holes in it than swiss cheese needs to get their head checked. The people who think that it actually means anything or matters even moreso.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Tr0jan on August 02, 2008, 12:19:12 PM
What does one gain by vulching a 2nd account to gain rank?  Does having your name on the main page every month mean that much to you?  Is it that important to feel accepted by this community that you will engage in activity that this community frowns upon?  Does it give you a warm and fuzzy feeling everytime you log on you see yourself ranked #1?  Does it bother you that you had to basically cheat your way to the top?  Does it bother you that the community thinks lowly of players like you?

I'm curious to see what guys like Biggamer and Dextur would like to say on this subject, maybe we'll have their 'friend' yourfup pipe in too with his thoughts.



ack-ack


Im friends with both Dex and BG...

It appears it was a "shade Account"

But "YourFup" IS now being flown my BG's little brother (hes 16) and i have proof of him flying under the name,
He has lets say, adopted the account from 1 or both of them and is now using it to play AH, Fairly..

Now back to the "killing shade's for rank" its alittle boring doing that, no fun.. wow my names on the home page, is that fun?

Yea makes u look good, And ive been on it a few times (2 :rolleyes: :lol)

But it must be boring just trying for rank every month, come on guys have some fun up a 262 and get raped by 30 cons!  :lol :lol
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Steve on August 02, 2008, 12:21:16 PM

He has lets say, adopted the account from 1 or both of them and is now using it to play AH, Fairly..


Until they want to pad again.


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Yea makes u look good,
  Uhh no.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Tr0jan on August 02, 2008, 12:23:49 PM
Until they want to pad again.

  Uhh no.

I honestly see no fun "padding"
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Bronk on August 02, 2008, 01:58:59 PM
I honestly see no fun "padding"
Evidently someone does.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: BaldEagl on August 02, 2008, 02:51:33 PM
Guess we got a couple more in MW in the first day of this Tour.

Saw eagle345 land 70 kills in a Panzer ... said it was from spawn camping ... looked at his score ... 183 kills in a Panzer in 1 day.

Maybe, maybe not.  I landed 28 kills in a Tiger one night spawn camping and 38 another night hiding in the indestructable building after our field was captured (this was before they added the hedgerows).  I also died with 41 kills in a Tiger once in AHI.  If all you do is GV and play all day that might be possible.

Heck, I landed like 26 kills in two sorties one night defending a V base maproom.  The funny thing about that one was it was all Aces and Eights.  I can't tell you how much I wanted to run into them again after that.  :D
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: sNiPeR on August 02, 2008, 03:35:53 PM


But "YourFup" IS now being flown my BG's little brother (hes 16) and i have proof of him flying under the name,
He has lets say, adopted the account from 1 or both of them and is now using it to play AH, Fairly..


Well,with Bg's lil bro in the mix,that must make it easier for Dextur now that Bg dont have to be there to up as YourFup to pork his score :rock
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 02, 2008, 05:39:24 PM
I am amazed at the amount of vets who actually still bring this topic up. If this is an actual question instead of a hidden name and shame I'd be surprised.

Why are you surprised?  I personally wanted to know what motivates them to engage in such activity.  I've been playing this game far longer than you have and believe me, I've known how fubar'd score/rank is since my days in AW.  I don't need some johhny come lately to tell me that little fact. 


ack-ack
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: nimble on August 02, 2008, 05:53:46 PM
Why are you surprised?  I personally wanted to know what motivates them to engage in such activity.  I've been playing this game far longer than you have and believe me, I've known how fubar'd score/rank is since my days in AW.  I don't need some johhny come lately to tell me that little fact. 


ack-ack

Obvious reason is obvious. High rank and front page.

Oh, and way to sneak in how long you've been playing, for the 9000th time. Everytime you wonder why they pad their stats go back to why you insist on saying how long you've been around. Epeen social status.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: mensa180 on August 02, 2008, 06:17:01 PM
Obvious reason is obvious. High rank and front page.

Oh, and way to sneak in how long you've been playing, for the 9000th time. Everytime you wonder why they pad their stats go back to why you insist on saying how long you've been around. Epeen social status.

 :lol
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: 442w30 on August 02, 2008, 09:38:19 PM
Great thread.  Not only does it point out a pathetic behavior pattern but itis also filled with some funny banter.

Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: DEAR98 on August 03, 2008, 10:10:47 AM
Biggamer isent a vulcher cherry picker.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Sweet2th on August 03, 2008, 10:18:51 AM
Why are you surprised?  I personally wanted to know what motivates them to engage in such activity.  I've been playing this game far longer than you have and believe me, I've known how fubar'd score/rank is since my days in AW.  I don't need some johhny come lately to tell me that little fact. 


ack-ack

Wow you have been staring at your monitor and playing flight sims that long? Wonder what your wife thinks of that? I bet you don't even have a wife,

in fact i will even go as far to say that you havn't seen a Vagina since you came out of one.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: uptown on August 03, 2008, 10:21:38 AM
o dear can't wait for the reply on that one  :O
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Masherbrum on August 03, 2008, 10:23:50 AM
Wow you have been staring at your monitor and playing flight sims that long? Wonder what your wife thinks of that? I bet you don't even have a wife,

in fact i will even go as far to say that you havn't seen a Vagina since you came out of one.

I see you're bucking for another PNG.   Come on man, I guarantee that most will feel like me.   Take all the cheap shots you want but direct them at ME.   A very thick line is crossed when involve someone's family.   

Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Sweet2th on August 03, 2008, 10:25:18 AM
   Come on man, I guarantee that most will feel like me.   Take all the cheap shots you want but direct them at ME.     



so then your the wife? i take it???

and uh last i checked from ackdweebs past posts score doesn't even matter to him so why is he so worried what others will do? People will do this no matter what, i think you all should be worried about how is HTC gonna keep people from using outside programs to get ahead in this game we all play.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Masherbrum on August 03, 2008, 10:27:44 AM
so then your the wife? i take it???

Wow, grammatical errors aside, you have some "rapier wit".   
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Zazen13 on August 03, 2008, 11:02:49 AM


and uh last i checked from ackdweebs past posts score doesn't even matter to him so why is he so worried what others will do? People will do this no matter what, i think you all should be worried about how is HTC gonna keep people from using outside programs to get ahead in this game we all play.

We don't play baseball either but we can still find Major League baseball players "juicing" up  a disgusting violation of the the ethical code of sportsmanship and fairplay...
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: angelsandair on August 03, 2008, 11:04:43 AM
so then your the wife? i take it???

and uh last i checked from ackdweebs past posts score doesn't even matter to him so why is he so worried what others will do? People will do this no matter what, i think you all should be worried about how is HTC gonna keep people from using outside programs to get ahead in this game we all play.


Wow, um..... Do you maybe wanna tone it down now? Take a riddalen?  :confused:
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Wingnutt on August 03, 2008, 11:12:23 AM
(http://www.funnyforumpics.com/forums/This-Thread-Delivers/1/thread-delivers2.jpg)
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: SlapShot on August 03, 2008, 12:20:26 PM
Maybe, maybe not.  I landed 28 kills in a Tiger one night spawn camping and 38 another night hiding in the indestructable building after our field was captured (this was before they added the hedgerows).  I also died with 41 kills in a Tiger once in AHI.  If all you do is GV and play all day that might be possible.

Heck, I landed like 26 kills in two sorties one night defending a V base maproom.  The funny thing about that one was it was all Aces and Eights.  I can't tell you how much I wanted to run into them again after that.  :D

Come on ... your playing devil's advocate here. I too have landed many double digit sorties in all sorts of GVs over all the years I have played.

I guess you missed the part where I pointed out how many people were logged into MW when it happened.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: TonyJoey on August 03, 2008, 01:37:18 PM
 :lol Biglamer has been going around the MW community apologizing for his actions now. He's done it to me twice.:rofl
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: evenhaim on August 03, 2008, 02:01:17 PM
:lol Biglamer has been going around the MW community apologizing for his actions now. He's done it to me twice.:rofl
:lol
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: DrDea on August 03, 2008, 02:02:07 PM
(http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m141/Drs109/lovethisthreadnq1.jpg)
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: angelsandair on August 03, 2008, 02:03:56 PM
:lol

He should let us shoot him down 100 times each :rock
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: evenhaim on August 03, 2008, 02:29:19 PM
He should let us shoot him down 100 times each :rock
i dont need him to let me do anything...
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 03, 2008, 03:11:31 PM
so then your the wife? i take it???

and uh last i checked from ackdweebs past posts score doesn't even matter to him so why is he so worried what others will do? People will do this no matter what, i think you all should be worried about how is HTC gonna keep people from using outside programs to get ahead in this game we all play.

And yet you still wonder why the community looks down on you.

You're right, I don't play for score and frankly don't give a rat's arse if someone else does.  It is their $15 to spend how they want it.  What I do object are kids such as yourself that cheat the system.  Yes, that's basically what you and the other are doing, cheating.  The really sad thing is that you see nothing wrong it it, which is obvious from each post you've made.  Frankly, you're scum and that's how the community sees you, pure scum.  Hope you now understand why the community has such a low opinion of you.

So go ahead, post back insulting my fiancee or someone else in my family, I don't expect anything intelligent from you anyway.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Shifty on August 03, 2008, 04:02:49 PM
Wow you have been staring at your monitor and playing flight sims that long? Wonder what your wife thinks of that? I bet you don't even have a wife,

in fact i will even go as far to say that you havn't seen a Vagina since you came out of one.

Every year we're visited with this personality, every year it gets more bizare and out of control.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Max on August 03, 2008, 04:21:13 PM
Wow you have been staring at your monitor and playing flight sims that long? Wonder what your wife thinks of that? I bet you don't even have a wife,

in fact i will even go as far to say that you havn't seen a Vagina since you came out of one.

If I had forum bwana you'd be PNG'd into the 22nd century for such a crass statement.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: DoNKeY on August 03, 2008, 05:00:47 PM
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/dadonkey1234/SeriousCat.jpg)
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: crazierthanu on August 03, 2008, 08:42:39 PM
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh49/dadonkey1234/SeriousCat.jpg)

 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Adonai on August 03, 2008, 09:21:26 PM
so then your the wife? i take it???

and uh last i checked from ackdweebs past posts score doesn't even matter to him so why is he so worried what others will do? People will do this no matter what, i think you all should be worried about how is HTC gonna keep people from using outside programs to get ahead in this game we all play.

well honestly I can see ack-ack itching you to reply something stupid and sadly you fell for it - Disrespecting someone's family over a computer is about
as lowest as you can go to prove just how stupid some people really are.

By the way I really don't see yourself getting out of this bomb crater you put yourself in, hope arguing online was worth it.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: BaldEagl on August 04, 2008, 02:29:08 AM
Every year we're visited with this personality, every year it gets more bizare and out of control.  :rolleyes:

And every year it get's PNG'd. 

Betting lines on when are over there -------->
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Serenity on August 04, 2008, 02:44:45 AM
I think I will jump into this.

I've done it. Once. It wasn't a shade account though. It was on my third, maybe fourth day of play, before I ever subscribed. Me and another n00b at the time saw the Ar-234 and REALLY wanted to try it in the MA. So, I upped a Ju-87, he upped a P-51D. We met up, and he flew straight and level while I tried to shoot him. My aim was so horrible we went at it for about 20-30 minutes without me getting a single kill. So, we decided to switch, I would be the Pony, he would be the Stuka. Again, I flew straight and level, and he was never able to kill me. Finally, we gave up and I've never done it again.

MY personal motivation to do this was this: I was new, and I wanted to fly t3h ub3r jet.

The reasons I've never done it again: 1) It's easier to get bomber perks by bombing things than trying to shoot another guy, even flying straight and level. 2) Maybe its just me, but for some strange reason, I care about what the good guys here think of me. Not guys like Dextur or Axer, but folks like Corky, Widewing, Lusche, etc. I wouldn't want to be shunned by such great people for doing something so dweebish and low. 3) It was boring. The true fun of Aces High is the thrill of the fight. And you don't get that vulching a shade. 4) I realised that was, in a way, (In my oppinion anyway) cheating. And I am not a cheater.

So I tried it, once, to get easy bomber perks. I failed. I never tried it again. So that's my reasoning. However, quite obviously, the same does not apply to these kids.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Baitman on August 04, 2008, 03:16:43 AM
well honestly I can see ack-ack itching you to reply something stupid and sadly you fell for it - Disrespecting someone's family over a computer is about
as lowest as you can go to prove just how stupid some people really are.

By the way I really don't see yourself getting out of this bomb crater you put yourself in, hope arguing online was worth it.
Exactly :aok
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: 1701E on August 04, 2008, 03:21:03 AM
And every year it get's PNG'd. 

Betting lines on when are over there -------->

I put $20 on the PNG happening when Skuzzy is finished tripping over all the power cords :aok
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: lyric1 on August 04, 2008, 03:26:16 AM
Wow you have been staring at your monitor and playing flight sims that long? Wonder what your wife thinks of that? I bet you don't even have a wife,

in fact i will even go as far to say that you havn't seen a Vagina since you came out of one.
Wow  :O See ya your done.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: panzerr on August 04, 2008, 08:04:13 AM
Wow  :O See ya your done.

....and not a second too soon......
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: bongaroo on August 04, 2008, 09:28:32 AM
Biggamer isent a vulcher cherry picker.

:(

Someone tried to call me out on 200 for zooming down from 20k in a p38j to pick them.  I told them I had started below him and his friend and hadn't been above 11k the whole time.

BigGamer spoke up letting everyone know it had been him up there and that I hadn't.

So, from my experience he is a picker, but that doesn't bother me.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: 1701E on August 04, 2008, 12:35:09 PM
:(

Someone tried to call me out on 200 for zooming down from 20k in a p38j to pick them.  I told them I had started below him and his friend and hadn't been above 11k the whole time.

BigGamer spoke up letting everyone know it had been him up there and that I hadn't.

So, from my experience he is a picker, but that doesn't bother me.

Wasn't trying to be mean, didn't know there were two P38s, and i saw a P38 kill me, so i just took the logical path.  No harm meant :D :salute
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: NHattila on August 04, 2008, 12:46:47 PM
This thread is pure gold ack-ack. Nice work.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: SmokinLoon on August 04, 2008, 04:19:41 PM
It is quite pathentic that people think they have to prop themselves up in some manner other than earning it.  Having a shade account to potato, vulch, or pad stats is solid evidence of a fragile ego.  In real life they must get walked on, beaten' up, or pushed around at every step they take.  Too bad that having a shadow account is their only means of being "successful" in this world.  I challenge them to take their AH2 stats to a job interview.  "Look at my AH2 stats!  I R teh l337!  I deserve uber-ownage pay!"

Losers.  Always have been, always will be.

   
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Baitman on August 04, 2008, 04:28:31 PM
It is quite pathentic that people think they have to prop themselves up in some manner other than earning it.  Having a shade account to potato, vulch, or pad stats is solid evidence of a fragile ego.  In real life they must get walked on, beaten' up, or pushed around at every step they take.  Too bad that having a shadow account is their only means of being "successful" in this world.  I challenge them to take their AH2 stats to a job interview.  "Look at my AH2 stats!  I R teh l337!  I deserve uber-ownage pay!"

Losers.  Always have been, always will be.

   

Some one forgot to tell these guys that there is no fame or fortune to be had here. You actually have to make it in the RW and if you use these tactics you are not going to get far in life.  :lol
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: BaldEagl on August 04, 2008, 04:36:39 PM
Sweet2th
Persona Non Grata


Woohooo!   :aok
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Zazen13 on August 04, 2008, 04:44:23 PM
Sweet2th
Persona Non Grata


Woohooo!   :aok

I'm gonna Missss himmmm! I think I'll buy him a nice fruit basket... :D
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Bronk on August 04, 2008, 04:48:47 PM
I'm gonna Missss himmmm! I think I'll buy him a nice fruit basket... :D
Don't worry you wont have to wait to long till the next incarnation. :noid
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Zazen13 on August 04, 2008, 04:51:37 PM
Don't worry you wont have to wait to long till the next incarnation. :noid

No doubt, but It's a lot like urban crimefighting. Taking one abomination off the streets at a time won't ever abolish crime, but it sure as hell makes the law abiding citizens feel better...;)
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Steve on August 04, 2008, 05:32:18 PM
I'm gonna Missss himmmm! I think I'll buy him a nice fruit basket... :D

Ghostbusters.. almost.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Zazen13 on August 04, 2008, 05:43:49 PM
Ghostbusters.. almost.

Yea, that's where i got it from ... :)
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: SHawk on August 04, 2008, 08:51:41 PM
I don't log in here alot, but I just happened across this thread. All I gotta say is LOL!
Pathetic Pathetic Pathetic.

Pathetic they have to vulch a shade.
Pathetic that peeps actually post for 16 pages about it.
Pathetic that someone cares.

I can give a 2 week noob score pointers and put em in the top 100 before they even pay for their account.
Score is a Joke, always has been.
Everyone knows the most deadly bomber pilot in here is 999000 or tatertot and yet K/D ratio isn't even a stat in bombers.
Zazen can clear a field with an Osty, but you won't ever see him ranked to show it.
I could go on and on with perfect examples, but point is..Score is a Joke :aok
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: SD67 on August 05, 2008, 07:44:06 AM
^ what he said
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: bongaroo on August 05, 2008, 07:50:36 AM
almost as pathetic as playing for score to begin with   :t
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: A8TOOL on August 05, 2008, 11:40:50 AM
I don't log in here alot, but I just happened across this thread. All I gotta say is LOL!
Pathetic Pathetic Pathetic.

Pathetic they have to vulch a shade.
Pathetic that peeps actually post for 16 pages about it.
Pathetic that someone cares.

I can give a 2 week noob score pointers and put em in the top 100 before they even pay for their account.
Score is a Joke, always has been.

Everyone knows the most deadly bomber pilot in here is 999000 or tatertot and yet K/D ratio isn't even a stat in bombers.
Zazen can clear a field with an Osty, but you won't ever see him ranked to show it.
I could go on and on with perfect examples, but point is..Score is a Joke :aok


I agree with most of what you said but there's a lot of oxymoron's in there.

A lot of the players mentioned came from your squad :lol

I ran into a player yesturday, won't mention name as he's a col :rolleyes:, that also said he does not care about losing perks because he can just vulch the hell out of his 2nd acct to get them back.

Nothing I can do about it but I think it sucks!...  My general character, On and Offline revolve around higher standards,..... I can be proud of that.

My grandfather was right when he said honor and respect were rapidly leaving our society. It was about 1975 then. Over the last decade or so, I find myself saying the same thing.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: A8TOOL on August 05, 2008, 01:57:19 PM
See Rules #4, #5
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: BaldEagl on August 05, 2008, 02:10:01 PM
See Rules #4, #5

Ask A8Balls about that night.  He'll remember.  I've never changed my name.

Where did I support Sweet2ths comments?  I gave a WTG that he got PNG'd.

What is it with you anyway attacking me in every thread you can find?

[EDIT]  OK, here's my proof.  Read the third post.  http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,226063.0.html

Are you calling A8Balls a liar and a phony too?  Please do because that's what you imply by calling me one over the same encounter.

Now get off my ankle with your unfounded accusations dweeb boi.  What a fricking TOOL.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: A8TOOL on August 05, 2008, 02:35:48 PM
:uhoh   Well.... I hate to say it, but I guess I read your  :aok  post on sweet2th wrong...Sorry, my mistake.

Bringing up that you killed us 26 times after over a year has passed don't count anymore :D

oh, and the ankle statement is worn out and linked to someone you don't want to be like.

My apologies,
Joe Tool
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: BaldEagl on August 05, 2008, 02:38:54 PM
:uhoh   Well.... I hate to say it, but I guess I read your  :aok  post on sweet2th wrong...Sorry, my mistake.

Bringing up that you killed us 26 times after over a year has passed don't count anymore :D

oh, and the ankle statement is worn out and linked to someone you don't want to be like.

My apologies,
Joe Tool

Accepted.  I just have a very good long memory.
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Dadsguns on August 20, 2008, 10:41:21 AM
I don't log in here alot, but I just happened across this thread. All I gotta say is LOL!
Pathetic Pathetic Pathetic.

Pathetic they have to vulch a shade.
Pathetic that peeps actually post for 16 pages about it.
Pathetic that someone cares.

I can give a 2 week noob score pointers and put em in the top 100 before they even pay for their account.
Score is a Joke, always has been.
Everyone knows the most deadly bomber pilot in here is 999000 or tatertot and yet K/D ratio isn't even a stat in bombers.
Zazen can clear a field with an Osty, but you won't ever see him ranked to show it.
I could go on and on with perfect examples, but point is..Score is a Joke :aok

AMEN!!!!
Title: Re: Question for those that vulch 2nd accounts to gain rank
Post by: Yenny on August 20, 2008, 11:31:42 AM
wouldn't it be easier to vulch dweebs that keep uppin from a capped field?