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Title: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: Boroda on July 28, 2008, 01:05:46 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080727/pl_afp/usvotemccainputinrussia;_ylt=AuUlA8Ifa43ERV9.heo6hiKM5QcF

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WASHINGTON (AFP) - Russia has become an autocracy under Vladimir Putin and the Russian president-turned-prime minister has taken the country down a "very harmful" path, Republican presidential candidate John McCain said Sunday.

"We need to improve their behavior," McCain told ABC television when asked about his threat to exclude Russia from the Group of Eight if he wins the White House in November.

"His government -- former president Putin, and now Prime Minister Putin -- has taken his country down a path that I think is very harmful," McCain said. "They've become an autocracy."

"In the last week or so, look at Russia's actions," he added. "They cut back on their oil supplies to the Czechs, because the Czechs made an agreement with us. They have now thrown out -- or forced out -- BP out of Russia.

"They continue to put enormous pressures on Georgia in many ways. They're putting pressure on Ukraine. They are blocking action in the United Nations Security Council on Iran," McCain said.

"We want better Russian behavior internationally, and we have every right to expect it," he said. "And I will do what I can to see that they reverse many of the behavior patterns which have really been very unhelpful to peace in the world."

Is this guy for real?!

Can a mentally disabled person be elected for US president? Do they have some kind of mental health test for candidates?
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: Hornet33 on July 28, 2008, 01:07:34 PM
Yeah the same one you guys use.
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: Maverick on July 28, 2008, 01:19:37 PM
Same old boroda.
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: Yeager on July 28, 2008, 01:26:13 PM
Just for starters, go check out your boy Nikita "We will bury you" Khrushchev.

 
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: slipknot on July 28, 2008, 01:36:54 PM
Just for starters, go check out your boy Nikita "We will bury you" Khrushchev.

 

Not to come to Beard's rescue or anything, but Khruschev's 'we'll bury you' line is perhaps the most misinterpreted soundbyte of the cold war. His real intentions for this phrase were nowhere near as ominous as he made it sound--more like a prognosis of how the superpowers' economies are destined to interact, and which one was destined to prevail.

He was wrong, of course, both in his prognosis as well as in his delivery. Beating the shoe was another bold, ill advised move.

Overall, I'd say that Khruschev suffered more from stupidity than he did from insanity, and there are many Russians that still view him as an embarassment to the nation.
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: Winks on July 28, 2008, 01:41:48 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080727/pl_afp/usvotemccainputinrussia;_ylt=AuUlA8Ifa43ERV9.heo6hiKM5QcF

Is this guy for real?!

 Do they have some kind of mental health test for candidates?

guess not .....
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: FrodeMk3 on July 28, 2008, 01:54:15 PM
There is one thing you have to understand about American politics, Boroda. You see, this is an election year here in the U.S. Right now, you have all the candidates running around all over the country, making promises' and expressing viewpoints' and saying all kinds of rubbish which they might or might not be serious about. Many times, stuff like this is just wash to win over votes, just so they can claim the office. After that, They take an agenda which was pretty much hidden from the voters' before they took the oath of office.
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: VonMessa on July 28, 2008, 01:58:06 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080727/pl_afp/usvotemccainputinrussia;_ylt=AuUlA8Ifa43ERV9.heo6hiKM5QcF

Is this guy for real?!

Can a mentally disabled person be elected for US president? Do they have some kind of mental health test for candidates?

Yes :aok 



We have one in office now.
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: angelsandair on July 28, 2008, 02:00:27 PM
Is this guy for real?!

Course not, Russia would get their butts owned in another weapons race. And if it went to war, OWNED again :D
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: Chalenge on July 28, 2008, 02:07:32 PM
Russias fifth column is progressing nicely and given that Obama wins this next election within one or two decades Putin will be able to easily march in and take over to absolutely no resistance.
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: bongaroo on July 28, 2008, 02:19:50 PM
Course not, Russia would get their butts owned in another weapons race. And if it went to war, OWNED again :D

I don't think you understand how there would be no "winner" in a war of that size.  Not much would be left to claim.  Grow up a bit and think about it.
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: Hangtime on July 28, 2008, 02:26:20 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080727/pl_afp/usvotemccainputinrussia;_ylt=AuUlA8Ifa43ERV9.heo6hiKM5QcF

Is this guy for real?!

Can a mentally disabled person be elected for US president? Do they have some kind of mental health test for candidates?

Didn't yer daddy shoot his bellybutton outta the sky in Vietnam?

...betcha yer shakin in yer krupski's with the prospect of an old republican with personal knowledge of russians sitting in the whitehouse.

squirm, boroda; squirm.
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: angelsandair on July 28, 2008, 02:27:58 PM
I don't think you understand how there would be no "winner" in a war of that size.  Not much would be left to claim.  Grow up a bit and think about it.

Look back at 1962, when that almost happened. Who backed down then? Who would back down now? The same country :D

Putin was a former KGB agent, I dont know why the people of Russia would elect him unless it was rigged who knows. Communism sucks, plain and simple.
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: Phaser11 on July 28, 2008, 02:36:02 PM
A child of five would understand this. Send someone to fetch a child of five.
Groucho Marx

woops wrong Marx!
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: bongaroo on July 28, 2008, 02:38:16 PM
Look back at 1962, when that almost happened. Who backed down then? Who would back down now? The same country :D

Putin was a former KGB agent, I dont know why the people of Russia would elect him unless it was rigged who knows. Communism sucks, plain and simple.

You still don't follow.  You said war.  Not huffing and puffing up to out macho the opponent; but war.

We'd all loose and thats nothing to get excited about.
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: FrodeMk3 on July 28, 2008, 02:41:51 PM
Didn't yer daddy shoot his bellybutton outta the sky in Vietnam?

...betcha yer shakin in yer krupski's with the prospect of an old republican with personal knowledge of russians sitting in the whitehouse.

squirm, boroda; squirm.

It kinda pains' me to say this Hangtime, but IF Boroda's dad won that encounter, why would he be particularly worried about second-best?
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: angelsandair on July 28, 2008, 02:42:57 PM
You still don't follow.  You said war.  Not huffing and puffing up to out macho the opponent; but war.

We'd all loose and thats nothing to get excited about.

Soviets dont care. As long as they think they'd win. There is plenty of proof on "Soviet" soil.
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: FrodeMk3 on July 28, 2008, 02:43:58 PM
Course not, Russia would get their butts owned in another weapons race. And if it went to war, OWNED again :D

Name who won the last Nuclear war for us, and remember that WWII doesn't count just because of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: Hangtime on July 28, 2008, 03:41:41 PM
It kinda pains' me to say this Hangtime, but IF Boroda's dad won that encounter, why would he be particularly worried about second-best?

If you had friends you grew up with that were killed by the soviet union, and your own carcass wound up in a POW camp, debriefed by soviets and tortured by your communist captors; all thanks to the efforts of the soviets, would you consider yourself a friend to those that were members of the communist party?

In short, McCain as president; will not be a 'good thing' for Russia. I rejoice!

Frode, boroda and I have been crossing swords here for a very, very long time. One of the more memorable debates revolved around what his daddy did in vietnam (AA systems operator) and how many 'American Airpirates' he was responsible for killing.

He's an old-line commie booster that rarely misses an opportunity to beard american interest, I'm on the other side of the fence; entirely. There's quite a few here that don't remember the 'evil empire'... I do.
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: Angus on July 28, 2008, 03:52:12 PM
I can give you a nice USSR joke.....

One fine day, as people die and gather in st'Peter's waiting line, a few are given the opportunity to travel back in time and have a look at the original Paradise while sitting on a bench.
Adam and Eve are walking gracefully around, and the Englishman present remarks:"They must be English, look how polite and graceful they are".
An American shakes his head, and sais "look here buddy, they're definately from the USA, they're FREE"
A Frenchman laughs, and remarks "Mes amis, only in France would such nakedness in the open be allowed, belle femme" and sends a fingerkiss.
Ahemm
A member of the former USSR sais firmly: "These are members of the Soviets".
"Why so??", ask the others.
"Well, they only have an apple to eat, it's forbidden, and they still think they're in Paradise"

 :devil
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: angelsandair on July 28, 2008, 04:27:12 PM
I can give you a nice USSR joke.....

One fine day, as people die and gather in st'Peter's waiting line, a few are given the opportunity to travel back in time and have a look at the original Paradise while sitting on a bench.
Adam and Eve are walking gracefully around, and the Englishman present remarks:"They must be English, look how polite and graceful they are".
An American shakes his head, and sais "look here buddy, they're definately from the USA, they're FREE"
A Frenchman laughs, and remarks "Mes amis, only in France would such nakedness in the open be allowed, belle femme" and sends a fingerkiss.
Ahemm
A member of the former USSR sais firmly: "These are members of the Soviets".
"Why so??", ask the others.
"Well, they only have an apple to eat, it's forbidden, and they still think they're in Paradise"

 :devil
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: AKIron on July 28, 2008, 04:29:32 PM
Don't make us dig up Reagan to whup your bellybutton again.  :P
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: angelsandair on July 28, 2008, 04:32:22 PM
Don't make us dig up Reagan to whup your bellybutton again.  :P

w00t! :D
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: Jackal1 on July 28, 2008, 06:29:43 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080727/pl_afp/usvotemccainputinrussia;_ylt=AuUlA8Ifa43ERV9.heo6hiKM5QcF

Is this guy for real?!

Can a mentally disabled person be elected for US president? Do they have some kind of mental health test for candidates?

The vodka truck turn over again? :)
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: Motherland on July 28, 2008, 06:34:16 PM
Look back at 1962, when that almost happened. Who backed down then? Who would back down now? The same country :D
Who on this board would exist today had the USSR NOT backed down?
Think of that one real quick.
Soviets dont care. As long as they think they'd win. There is plenty of proof on "Soviet" soil.
Oh, the irony.
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 28, 2008, 07:20:19 PM
Don't make us dig up Reagan to whup your bellybutton again.  :P


(http://www.zombiereagan.com/street/portrait.jpg)

ack-ack
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: Motherland on July 28, 2008, 07:23:00 PM
I'm lucky I just finished my coke, ack-ack :rofl
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: moot on July 28, 2008, 07:28:40 PM
LOL
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: Fishu on July 28, 2008, 08:50:01 PM
Is this guy for real?!

Can a mentally disabled person be elected for US president? Do they have some kind of mental health test for candidates?

There are more fascists in your country than there are outside, regardless of all the supposed russian "anti-fascist" organizations. The very organizations themselves are similar to fascist movements. There's as much democracy in Russia as there was in the 1930's Germany. In 20 years Russia has transformed from extreme left to extreme right. Way to go neightbours.

Therefore I don't see anything wrong with McCain's views. Not to say there's nothing wrong with the USA, but this thread is about the Russia's state of affairs.
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: lasersailor184 on July 28, 2008, 08:56:43 PM
There are more fascists in your country than there are outside, regardless of all the supposed russian "anti-fascist" organizations. The very organizations themselves are similar to fascist movements. There's as much democracy in Russia as there was in the 1930's Germany. In 20 years Russia has transformed from extreme left to extreme right. Way to go neightbours.

Therefore I don't see anything wrong with McCain's views. Not to say there's nothing wrong with the USA, but this thread is about the Russia's state of affairs.


Here's the thing, and it's something a Liberal will NEVER admit to.


Russia hasn't changed from left wing, to right wing.  Yet they are still becoming Fascists.  I know you will find it confusing.
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: Hangtime on July 28, 2008, 09:32:05 PM
Here's the thing, and it's something a Liberal will NEVER admit to.


Russia hasn't changed from left wing, to right wing.  Yet they are still becoming Fascists.  I know you will find it confusing.

As I recall, Fishu is from Finland. Poor bastards have been invaded by russians more often than I make it the post office. Considering the russian attitude to any neighboring country that's not russian I find it amazing he'd ever call russian domestic or foreign policy 'leftist' at any time.
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: Boroda on July 29, 2008, 03:38:51 AM
As I recall, Fishu is from Finland. Poor bastards have been invaded by russians more often than I make it the post office. Considering the russian attitude to any neighboring country that's not russian I find it amazing he'd ever call russian domestic or foreign policy 'leftist' at any time.

I guess you have been to the post office one time in your life. You know, like that village guy who have been to the city once and have seen a steam-engine.

Didn't see you here for a long time, did a visit to a post office take so long? Did you have to ski there?
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: angelsandair on July 29, 2008, 05:49:41 AM
I guess you have been to the post office one time in your life. You know, like that village guy who have been to the city once and have seen a steam-engine.

Didn't see you here for a long time, did a visit to a post office take so long? Did you have to ski there?


You're just mad cuz America's better (Except California, you guys beat us there, shoot you can have it :) )  :D :devil
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: sunfan1121 on July 29, 2008, 06:46:17 AM
Course not, Russia would get their butts owned in another weapons race. And if it went to war, OWNED again :D
In the words of Albert albert Einstein. " I dont know what weapons WW3 would be fought with, but WW4 would be fought with sticks and stones."
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: Boroda on July 29, 2008, 08:05:22 AM
Didn't yer daddy shoot his bellybutton outta the sky in Vietnam?

...betcha yer shakin in yer krupski's with the prospect of an old republican with personal knowledge of russians sitting in the whitehouse.

squirm, boroda; squirm.

It was my Uncle who was in Vietnam. He died about a month ago :(

AFAIK McCaine doesn't have any "personal knowledge of russians". He was just a miserable POW seized by poor people he was bombing "to stone age".
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: Boroda on July 29, 2008, 09:05:20 AM

You're just mad cuz America's better (Except California, you guys beat us there, shoot you can have it :) )  :D :devil

Me? Mad? Some people like a Priest, some like Priest's daughter.
Title: Re: "We need to improve their behavior"
Post by: angelsandair on July 29, 2008, 09:07:31 AM
Me? Mad? Some people like a Priest, some like Priest's daughter.

P.S. you know I didn't take anything of this thread seriously? :) I cant take any of the presidental canidates serious anymore unless it's in regards to our troops. Obama and McCain are completely where they are because one is black and the other is a War Hero, only difference between the two really is that McCain actually worked hard to get where he is now.