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Title: We need more puffy ack
Post by: mechanic on July 29, 2008, 01:49:31 PM
I would like to see more puffy ack and AAA instalations. It would be great if each base had a ring of AAA guns and flak around the radar circle. A mobile front line of puffy ack would really let you know you were into enemy territory.
As it is the hordes just avoid each other and camp over bases. There must be a way of promoting dogfights in 'no-mans land' instead of all this one sided base assault.
Title: Re: We need more puffy ack
Post by: Furball on July 29, 2008, 01:51:21 PM
There must be a way of promoting dogfights in 'no-mans land' instead of all this one sided base assault.

Remove bombs/rockets and GV's from AH  :devil
Title: Re: We need more puffy ack
Post by: Overlag on July 29, 2008, 02:30:37 PM
i never have a problem of finding fights.... you just defend the bases that those "one sided" assaults are going to.

Come on bat, ur good enough :D
Title: Re: We need more puffy ack
Post by: Saurdaukar on July 29, 2008, 02:31:46 PM
While this thread is clearly a joke, I would absolutely be in favor of 3x the ack so long as it was 3x as inaccurate.
Title: Re: We need more puffy ack
Post by: BiPoLaR on July 29, 2008, 03:47:11 PM
Give up the puff ack back in the towns the way it use to be...and get rid of the lazer ack...thatll get rid of ack runners :D
Title: Re: We need more puffy ack
Post by: Dichotomy on July 29, 2008, 03:50:34 PM
shouldn't this be in the wishlist?

sorry b@t couldn't resist  :lol
Title: Re: We need more puffy ack
Post by: DaveJ on July 29, 2008, 05:52:15 PM
Surely this is a wind up?  :O
Title: Re: We need more puffy ack
Post by: angelsandair on July 29, 2008, 05:57:28 PM
Completely different kind of puffy ack though. How about twice as much, but 3 times less powerful and accurate. :)
Title: Re: We need more puffy ack
Post by: zoozoo on July 29, 2008, 06:10:30 PM
give us the b29 then, i get killed by cv puffy ack cruising at 15k, if i was in b29 i would be at 40k and it wouldnt take to long to get to that alt.
Title: Re: We need more puffy ack
Post by: stodd on July 29, 2008, 06:20:28 PM
Remove bombs/rockets and GV's from AH  :devil
and planes
Title: Re: We need more puffy ack
Post by: PFactorDave on July 29, 2008, 07:20:41 PM
give us the b29 then, i get killed by cv puffy ack cruising at 15k, if i was in b29 i would be at 40k and it wouldnt take to long to get to that alt.

You think?

Here's some stats I googled up...  Doesn't look so good to me...

Specifications  StatsCentral
Model Boeing B-29A Superfortress
Length 99.02 ft | 30.18 m
Width  142.26 ft | 43.36 m
Height 29.56 ft | 9.01 m
Engine(s) 4 x Wright R-3350-57 radial piston engines generating 2,200hp.
Empty Weight  71,361 lbs | 32,369 kg
MTOW 141,102 lbs | 64,003 kg
Max Speed  358 mph | 576 km/h | 311 kts
Max Range  4,100 miles | 6,598 km
Ceiling  31,808 ft | 9,695 m | 6.0 miles  
Climb Rate  526.3 ft/min (160.4 m/min)  
Hardpoints 0
Armament 4 x 12.7mm machine guns in electrically-operated dorsal turret
2 x 12.7mm machine guns in electrically-operated under-nose turret
2 x 12.7mm machine guns electrically-operated turret over rear fuselage.
2 x 12.7mm machine guns electrically-operated turret under rear fuselage
2 x 12.7mm machine guns in tail gun position
1 x 20mm cannon in tail gun position
6,000lbs or internal ordnance. 
Accommodations 10
 
Title: Re: We need more puffy ack
Post by: DaveJ on July 29, 2008, 07:24:18 PM
You think?

Here's some stats I googled up...  Doesn't look so good to me...

Specifications  StatsCentral
Model Boeing B-29A Superfortress
Length 99.02 ft | 30.18 m
Width  142.26 ft | 43.36 m
Height 29.56 ft | 9.01 m
Engine(s) 4 x Wright R-3350-57 radial piston engines generating 2,200hp.
Empty Weight  71,361 lbs | 32,369 kg
MTOW 141,102 lbs | 64,003 kg
Max Speed  358 mph | 576 km/h | 311 kts
Max Range  4,100 miles | 6,598 km
Ceiling  31,808 ft | 9,695 m | 6.0 miles  
Climb Rate  526.3 ft/min (160.4 m/min)  
Hardpoints 0
Armament 4 x 12.7mm machine guns in electrically-operated dorsal turret
2 x 12.7mm machine guns in electrically-operated under-nose turret
2 x 12.7mm machine guns electrically-operated turret over rear fuselage.
2 x 12.7mm machine guns electrically-operated turret under rear fuselage
2 x 12.7mm machine guns in tail gun position
1 x 20mm cannon in tail gun position
6,000lbs or internal ordnance. 
Accommodations 10
 


6,000lb of internal ordinance? :O

That's completely ludicrous. It held closer to 20,000lbs.
Title: Re: We need more puffy ack
Post by: PFactorDave on July 29, 2008, 07:34:19 PM
6,000lb of internal ordinance? :O

That's completely ludicrous. It held closer to 20,000lbs.

I don't know, more knowledgable parties are sure to jump in here, but after you posted I checked a few different sites about the B29.  Two sites listed bomb load in the 5-6k lbs.  Same as the first site I went to.  One site did list an ord load of up to 16k lbs, and a few bombers were modified to carry a single MOAB style bomb thats was in the 40k lb neighborhood.

I'll leave it to others to hash out which is correct.

At any rate, the climb rate isn't all that exciting anyway, which is really what I was trying to point out to the ZooZoo.
Title: Re: We need more puffy ack
Post by: Overlag on July 29, 2008, 09:53:53 PM
i think they messed up the unit..... ie Kg vs lbs :)
Title: Re: We need more puffy ack
Post by: Chalenge on July 29, 2008, 10:50:04 PM
From the Boeing site: http://www.boeing.com/history/boeing/b29.html

Max load 20,000 lbs.

Urban legend on this airplane is easy to come by. You can see on Wikipedia that the plane is alledged to have carried a full bomb load of 20,000 pounds AND two 22,000 pound bombs externally but I remember reading that when they tried this experimentally during the war they 1) broke the tail off of the first plane to try it while one member was killed in the fire and the others escaped alive but severely shaken and 2) killed the entire crew on the second to try it even without the internal load (I have been looking for an hour and cant find the citation for that). I love this plane too and I have it for another game but I think it is not well suited for AHII.

This plane is the greatest fantasy for noobs because of its range and because of the defensive armament. I guarantee it can be shot down just as easy as any other bomber in the game (I would say easier then most because of its size). I know HT would never model the 'random' fires it really had and had OFTEN but I also believe the runways in AHII today are not long enough for this plane.

I would love to have it and even with a perk cost of 100 per bomber I would fly it but if the fields would have to be modified for longer runways I am against it completely.