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Title: russian goon
Post by: valdals on July 31, 2008, 09:19:44 AM
we should try to get this aircraft. the lisunov Li-2. a transport that can defend itself.

1-20mm Shvak cannon (100 rds) nose.
2-12.7mm USBS machine guns 250rds per gun

http://www.savagesquadron.com/SUpage/SUFighters/Li_2.htm
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: slipknot on July 31, 2008, 09:33:20 AM
Awesome idea. Looks like it won't require coding for a whole new plane either.
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: 100goon on July 31, 2008, 09:42:39 AM
 :aok
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: valdals on July 31, 2008, 01:32:12 PM
hopefully we can get support for this plane.  a goon that scares fighter pilots.   :D
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: Furball on July 31, 2008, 01:34:27 PM
good idea, should perk it.
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: kennyhayes on July 31, 2008, 03:06:15 PM
goons need to be in transpotrt class on this game when they add them
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: Spikes on July 31, 2008, 03:17:59 PM
Very good idea, a small perk price would go well with it.
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: ian5440 on July 31, 2008, 03:19:13 PM
hopefully we can get support for this plane.  a goon that scares fighter pilots. 

the only fighter you might scare is the RV8  :D
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: Rich46yo on July 31, 2008, 03:58:15 PM
 :aok
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: botkins on July 31, 2008, 04:15:41 PM
 :aok  :aok (two thumbs up  :D )
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: Denholm on July 31, 2008, 04:18:17 PM
This would be neat, a DC3 that can defend itself. :D
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: Ciaphas on July 31, 2008, 04:56:55 PM
would be nice to have another aircraft variant for runninng troops and supplies.  :rock


Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: LCCajun on July 31, 2008, 05:11:01 PM
Awesome idea. Looks like it won't require coding for a whole new plane either.

If I remember correctly I believe we have the bubble on top of the goon already. Please let us have this. Would not hurt to have them guns to get that last town building down either.
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: Oleg on August 01, 2008, 04:23:37 AM
we should try to get this aircraft. the lisunov Li-2. a transport that can defend itself.

1-20mm Shvak cannon (100 rds) nose.
2-12.7mm USBS machine guns 250rds per gun

http://www.savagesquadron.com/SUpage/SUFighters/Li_2.htm

afaik, Li-2 never had Shvak or 2 UBs, real armament was 4 7.62mm SHKAS (one per nose, top and both sides; top SHKAS was replaced with 12.7mm UBT later). Some number had top 12.7mm UBT only.
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: valdals on August 01, 2008, 05:54:54 AM
afaik, Li-2 never had Shvak or 2 UBs, real armament was 4 7.62mm SHKAS (one per nose, top and both sides; top SHKAS was replaced with 12.7mm UBT later). Some number had top 12.7mm UBT only.


click on the link. it shows the armament that i listed.
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: Oleg on August 01, 2008, 06:12:12 AM
click on the link. it shows the armament that i listed.

Specifications on linked page are incorrect at least.
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: mipoikel on August 01, 2008, 11:35:10 AM
click on the link. it shows the armament that i listed.

I can create a website where is listed that Spitfire had 6 x 40mm cannons. Then we can ask it for AH.   :D
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: Bruv119 on August 01, 2008, 11:40:21 AM
I can create a website where is listed that Spitfire had 6 x 40mm cannons. Then we can ask it for AH.   :D

make it 12  ;)
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: Ciaphas on August 01, 2008, 11:54:22 AM
Here is a brief history of the LI-2..

http://www.oldwings.nl/st/li2.pdf (http://www.oldwings.nl/st/li2.pdf)

This is just another resource for Aircraft

http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/ (http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/)

!S!
Ciaphas
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: Hornet33 on August 01, 2008, 12:15:02 PM
If I remember correctly I believe we have the bubble on top of the goon already. Please let us have this. Would not hurt to have them guns to get that last town building down either.

The bubble on top of the goon is not for a gun turret. That is for the navigator to take sun/star shots with a sextant to plot the planes location. Same as the bubble in front of the cockpit on the B-17, B-24, and most other large aircraft that had a navigator and flew long range missions.

Back to the topic of this thread though, yeah I'd like to see the Russian goon with the gun turret.
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: BaldEagl on August 01, 2008, 01:53:02 PM
Finally a worthwhile wish.   :aok
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: macleod01 on August 01, 2008, 02:23:39 PM
Very good idea, a small perk price would go well with it.

Perk it? Why? because it can defend itself? No way! Let it fire at you! Be more fun!
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: Spikes on August 01, 2008, 03:50:42 PM
Perk it? Why? because it can defend itself? No way! Let it fire at you! Be more fun!
Again, you'd never see a normal Goon again. Unless the russian one was slower? Still, most people in-game would trade 10 or 20mph for a small amount of armament.
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: macleod01 on August 01, 2008, 05:40:32 PM
but im gonna use the same argument I always use when this comes up. The spit 1 is hardly ever/ Never seen in the MA, so should this mean that all other Spitfires should be perked? Same with Hurri's etc. Just because a regular goon will 'Never be seen' doesnt men we have to perk the alternative. If the Ju52 comes, will that get perked?
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: Motherland on August 01, 2008, 05:58:02 PM
No, because it's terribly slow and has a pathetic armament. The Li-2's is actually pretty nice.
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: Ciaphas on August 01, 2008, 08:48:02 PM
Think about it this way, cargo pilots will grow a bigger pair and try to fly into places that they know they shouldn't.  This will also force the trade off between sound flight and defending.. I think it would be a matter of "why bother?" and "Hell Yeah!" for the rest of us..

Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: DEAR98 on August 02, 2008, 02:12:55 PM
the only fighter you might scare is the RV8  :D
no no put the old 2 gun it had it OWN.
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: angelsandair on August 02, 2008, 03:42:11 PM
Careful though, some of these sites arent completely accurate. :salute
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: Coog03 on August 04, 2008, 12:13:46 AM
 :rock :rock :rock :rock
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: 100goon on August 04, 2008, 01:47:36 PM
Very good idea, a small perk price would go well with it.

like 10 perks becuase you get like that much back from a base so 10 perkies on it :aok
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: Rino on August 05, 2008, 09:21:33 AM
I can create a website where is listed that Spitfire had 6 x 40mm cannons. Then we can ask it for AH.   :D

     Then you need a perked armorer to load the guns without getting a hernia  :D
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: falcon23 on August 05, 2008, 08:50:20 PM
I am for it..NO perks..Geeze,everytime someone comes up with something cool,everyone says lets perk IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...ITS A goon...WITH A FEW GUNS...will still die easily...unless some fighter pilot is fearful he cant go up against a goon with a gun... :noid

                                                                      FAlcon23
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: angelsandair on August 05, 2008, 09:24:04 PM
I am for it..NO perks..Geeze,everytime someone comes up with something cool,everyone says lets perk IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...ITS A goon...WITH A FEW GUNS...will still die easily...unless some fighter pilot is fearful he cant go up against a goon with a gun... :noid

                                                                      FAlcon23


I'm that pilot.  :cry
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: falcon23 on August 05, 2008, 09:30:53 PM

I'm that pilot.  :cry



  YOU LIE!!! :P
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: angelsandair on August 05, 2008, 09:31:40 PM


  YOU LIE!!! :P

 :noid

...or I dont
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: HighTone on August 05, 2008, 10:28:55 PM
we should try to get this aircraft. the lisunov Li-2. a transport that can defend itself.

1-20mm Shvak cannon (100 rds) nose.
2-12.7mm USBS machine guns 250rds per gun

http://www.savagesquadron.com/SUpage/SUFighters/Li_2.htm



 :aok I agree :aok
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: 1sum41 on August 06, 2008, 12:26:06 AM
:noid

...or I dont
lol :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on August 06, 2008, 01:24:44 AM
http://www.warbirdalley.com/c54.htm

While not armed, it is much faster and could carry much more cargo.
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: FlyGhost on August 06, 2008, 04:46:24 AM
im just gonna do this -----> :aok :rock :salute  :D

so there is one more reply and mb htc will notice this thread and we'll get the plane.
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: Flayed1 on August 06, 2008, 05:29:21 PM
Whats wrong with perking it? At least then there might be something to spend bomber perks on. It's not like most people in AH don't have several hundred bomber perks built up to blow on em lol.  I would pay for it at least.  :D
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: BMathis on August 08, 2008, 07:31:51 PM
 :aok A yes from me
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: falcon23 on August 09, 2008, 12:54:48 PM
OK,OK..perk it then if it makes you feel better..maybe a 5ver or so..BUT leave it the SAME eny AS THE ORIGINAL goon so they can be upped at ANYTIME...

                                                               Falcon23 :salute
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: Eustace on August 09, 2008, 10:34:33 PM
Along those same lines, how about the JU52 (http://www.military-aircraft.org.uk/transport-aircraft/junkers-ju-52.htm)?  I'd settle for either plane, or a skin and cockpit upgrade of the C-47.
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: BlauK on August 10, 2008, 10:43:11 AM
 :aok for LI-2    :aok for Ju-52 ... adds variety, enhances game play.
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: Relorian on August 12, 2008, 04:57:45 PM
 :t

For the love of god, YES please add this. It would be a BOON to those of us who actually fly resupply and re-arm missions. Dont perk it highly, maybe only a 2 to 5 perk so that it would be a small loss if you dont make it.


Seriously, ADD more transport planes. And early war planes...
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: valad94 on August 13, 2008, 08:58:42 PM
i go ian on this one  :aok :aok it might work but i doubt it

ch05
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: BillyD on August 13, 2008, 10:43:14 PM
This is a great idea, cool airplane.

Perhaps instead of perking it you get less perks when you capture the airfield.

usually you get like 11 or so. Drop it down to like 9.....just for the fact that you get to HO maurading nikkies and LA las w/ a cannon.

I just said perk alot.
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: SKYGUNS on August 14, 2008, 01:04:28 AM
Ju-52 first :aok
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: FlyGhost on August 14, 2008, 02:35:05 AM
wow so many people are saying yes to this and no one is saying no...

maybe HTC should listen, instead of posting a "wishlist" forum for no reason.




 :salute
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: angelsandair on August 14, 2008, 04:33:27 AM
wow so many people are saying yes to this and no one is saying no...

maybe HTC should listen, instead of posting a "wishlist" forum for no reason.




 :salute

Shade?
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: FlyGhost on August 14, 2008, 05:41:14 AM
what?
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: Ciaphas on August 16, 2008, 12:40:27 AM
Shameless bump, we can't let this one get buried
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: all5x on August 16, 2008, 07:05:22 PM
  If this is created, I don’t think it should be perked. Many newbie’s take a goon up to capture a base when they are lacking fighter skills.

 While I'm at it, a few smaller caliber fixed ground guns around an airfield, town, or remote hilltop would lend itself to more realism when flying NOE and getting hit with surprise pings!!!!
ALL5X
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: BMathis on August 16, 2008, 08:28:06 PM
Ju-52 first :aok
quit hijacking...

This is a nice idea, again ttt for it's a good in-game addition... the only thing I see bad is it will definitely make the c-47 a hanger queen unless perked.
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: valdals on August 18, 2008, 06:46:48 AM
  If this is created, I don’t think it should be perked. Many newbie’s take a goon up to capture a base when they are lacking fighter skills.

 While I'm at it, a few smaller caliber fixed ground guns around an airfield, town, or remote hilltop would lend itself to more realism when flying NOE and getting hit with surprise pings!!!!
ALL5X

due to the slow nature of the goon, it would be suicide to deack with it. i its good against some gvs and to take down buildings.
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: valdals on August 19, 2008, 06:41:35 AM
wow look at all the positive responses. i hope we get this plane
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: JETBLST on August 19, 2008, 01:29:06 PM
I think this would be AWESOME AS WELL!!!

I think it should be perked.  GIVE US SOMETHING TO DO WITH THOSE BOMBER PERKIES AND REASONS TO GET THEM!!   :lol

I agree with the idea that newbies run goons  ALOT, but if you perk this it will stretch them into learning other aircraft faster in order to get the perks to run it.

Along that line, hopefully it could defend itself but GOOD too!!  Like maybe it could carry TWO gunners and a pilot!  IE Two people could join the goon for gunnery.  Think of how much more fun base taking could be with multiple self defended goons. 

Oh ya gotta happen!!!

This guy was REALLY on the ball on this idea!

WAY TO GO BRO!!!
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: LLogann on August 19, 2008, 01:40:21 PM
Muy Interesante

...to say the least!

Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: 123zzz on August 20, 2008, 10:25:01 AM
 :aok :aok
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: valdals on August 22, 2008, 10:23:55 AM
lets keep this mail alive so we can get this goon.
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: ridley1 on August 22, 2008, 08:16:49 PM
bring it on as a perk ride.....
gotta spend my bomber perks on something.

At risk of a hijack...maybe this could be incorporated in a perk ordinance system?
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: 100goon on August 22, 2008, 11:49:00 PM
i mean then when i ask for a gunner in my goon they can do somen other then get the troops drunk lol   :rofl :O  :huh :aok
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: valdals on August 23, 2008, 12:55:46 PM
woo hoo. keep it coming. we need this plane
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: valdals on August 27, 2008, 02:03:20 PM
lets keep the russian goon alive
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: Denholm on August 27, 2008, 02:18:24 PM
Sure...
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: JETBLST on August 27, 2008, 08:56:23 PM
Ya, the more I think on this one the more I like it!
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: valdals on August 29, 2008, 09:32:37 AM
thanks guys
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: Ciaphas on September 03, 2008, 07:34:36 AM
shameless bump
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: Oleg on September 03, 2008, 07:56:38 AM
Hmm... Rule 13?  :huh

I know about rule 6  :noid
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: SKYGUNS on September 03, 2008, 08:04:15 AM
Im gunna rename this thing the wooddonut, cuz now i have something to peck at them.
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: Denholm on September 03, 2008, 08:48:47 AM
I'm fairly certain HTC has already seen this thread. Please stop bumping it unless you were searching before requesting the same item. :aok
Title: Re: russian goon
Post by: valdals on September 03, 2008, 11:27:41 AM
???????????   :confused: