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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: zuii on July 31, 2008, 11:33:31 AM
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Ki-84-Ib 4 × 20mm Ho-5 cannons
Ki-84-Ic 2 × 20mm Ho-5 cannons and 2 × 30mm Ho-105 cannons in wings.
From what i have read, these versions saw action. I'm not going to start referencing material, that is for
the powers that be and they are smarter than I.
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zuii <---- running for cover with my hands on my head and being afraid.
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I dont think the Ki-84Ic saw action. (quote me if I'm wrong)
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I believe only a handful were made and none saw service with 30mm. 4x20mm was relatively rare.
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I believe only a handful were made and none saw service with 30mm. 4x20mm was relatively rare.
Relatively rare meaning about 500 built, 1 in 7 Ki-84s.
500 is more than the total production of C.205s, F4U-1Cs and Ta-152s combined.
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Relatively rare meaning about 500 built, 1 in 7 Ki-84s.
500 is more than the total production of C.205s, F4U-1Cs and Ta-152s combined.
A compelling argument if true but i like the Ki-84 as is. It would be a 5 ENY plane and not that much different than a N1K.
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A compelling argument if true but i like the Ki-84 as is. It would be a 5 ENY plane and not that much different than a N1K.
Add it as a second airframe, or as a perked weapon loadout.
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read somewhere the 30mm used case less ammo, and they jammed alot.
-Shrugs-
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Relatively rare using the word "relatively" as compared to the thousands and thousands that had only 2x 20mm, the tens of thousand other fighters including zeros, ki44s, ki43s, every plane in the arsenal at that time, 500 was pretty small a number, and with quality problems these planes barely made enough power to take off, and if they did they would most likely break their landing gear when coming down.
There's "built" then there's "too low a quality to even bother using".... Japan was fielding a lot more of the latter in the closing days of the war, than they were of the former.
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Relatively rare using the word "relatively" as compared to the thousands and thousands that had only 2x 20mm, the tens of thousand other fighters including zeros, ki44s, ki43s, every plane in the arsenal at that time, 500 was pretty small a number, and with quality problems these planes barely made enough power to take off, and if they did they would most likely break their landing gear when coming down.
There's "built" then there's "too low a quality to even bother using".... Japan was fielding a lot more of the latter in the closing days of the war, than they were of the former.
The ~500 Ki-84-Ibs are more than N1K2-Js, more than the often requested Ki-100.
Don't be obtuse and pretend like 500 is some shocking, ultra low number compared to many things we already have in AH.
Not to mention that pretending it would be like adding a Ki-44, J2M3 or Ki-43 is absurd as it would use 99.5% of the same model as the Ki-84-Ia.
And if "too low a quality is an issue", well, we ought to just rip the N1K2-J, Ki-84, Bf109K-4, Me262, Me163 and maybe the P-40 right out of the game, no?