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Title: smarter ship skippers
Post by: iculus on July 17, 2001, 01:16:00 AM

Say that 3 times fast...

The fleet should be able to evade level bombers on its own.

Title: smarter ship skippers
Post by: Pepe on July 17, 2001, 01:27:00 AM

I agree completely, but I think you are looking in the wrong direction   ;)

Cheers,

Pepe

Title: smarter ship skippers
Post by: DmdNexus on July 17, 2001, 11:52:00 AM

CV Flak (10k+) should be extremely deadly to any bomber flying a relatively constant speed and course (aka level bombing).

But it is not.

Nexus

Title: smarter ship skippers
Post by: Pongo on July 17, 2001, 11:55:00 AM

CV ack should be next to useless against manuvering fighters but of course its not.
It is too much to ask to cap your carrier at 20 k to spank the lanc that will end your vulch?
I dont think so. The CV uber ack makes it near imposible for a field to defend itself against a cv. Someone must bring a bomber. Dont expect the uber ack to defend you from that too.

Title: smarter ship skippers
Post by: DmdNexus on July 17, 2001, 05:47:00 PM

Pongo,

Not talking about AAA which fires at anything below 10k.

Talking about the FLAK which fires above 10k.

No arguement about having CAP to defend CV.

But in this game FLAK hit's perhaps 1 out of 1000.  It should not miss so much.

Nexus

Title: smarter ship skippers
Post by: Pepe on July 18, 2001, 02:01:00 AM

10k level buff should be pretty useless against a manouvering boat, but it's not.

Level buff should be unable to jink or even fly inverted while dropping eggs, but it's not.

TG should be able to vary both speed and course, but it's not.

The list could go on, but I guess is better not.  ;)


Cheers,

Pepe

Title: smarter ship skippers
Post by: Pepe on July 18, 2001, 02:30:00 AM

SW provided with a link (http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq81-9.htm) to this site. The Midway Battle report is revealing as to how effective level bombers (let alone strato-buffs) actually were against moving ships.

Cheers,

Pepe

Title: smarter ship skippers
Post by: xHaMmeRx on July 18, 2001, 10:44:00 AM

(http://www.history.navy.mil/pics/faq81-9-1.jpg)

Is that a warp I see in the carriers wake?  :D

HaMmeR

Title: smarter ship skippers
Post by: Pepe on July 18, 2001, 10:48:00 AM

xHaMmeRx,

You are obviously blind. This guy is a cheater! Please remit the picture to IJN officials, they will take due care.  :D

Cheers,

Pepe

Title: smarter ship skippers
Post by: xHaMmeRx on July 18, 2001, 10:50:00 AM

An interesting statement from the source Pepe linked to above.
 

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one torpedo attack by four B-26's  

Hmmmmm...I want torpedoes for the B-26's!!

HaMmeR

Title: smarter ship skippers
Post by: B52Charlie on July 19, 2001, 09:46:00 PM

The smartest ship captains are the real people that use the carriers for frontal assults instead of usings its mobility to attack a more sensitive position like the HQ or installations. How about adding the ability to start and stop the group or control its speed at least, that would make it easier to dodge a string of 6k coming at you and attack installations or bases. Of course you can still take a b17 and do a 7k barrel roll into the group and spatter the cv by dive bombing it.

Title: smarter ship skippers
Post by: Don on July 26, 2001, 03:12:00 PM

>>CV Flak (10k+) should be extremely deadly to any bomber flying a relatively constant speed and course (akalevel bombing)But it is not.<<

Also, level bombing by large bomber a/c was  notoriously inaccurate. Simple evasives by ships being attacked resulted in bombs falling harmlessly into the ocean. dive bombing and torpedo attack a/c were bread and butter. Skip bombing tactics were employed to great effect in WW2 pac theatre but, were only effective at low level.

Title: smarter ship skippers
Post by: Don on July 26, 2001, 03:16:00 PM

>>Is that a warp I see in the carriers wake?  

             HaMmeR <<<

Hehe, thanks for posting that Hammer.