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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Dago on August 02, 2008, 10:48:23 AM
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Anybody notice that once the press started picking up on a pattern of a fainting woman near the front row at Obamas appearances, and showed how he "handled it" the same way each time, that the episodes of fainting women all of a sudden stopped? Coincidence? I doubt it.
Seems similar to Hillary's staff planting prepared questions at her appearances I think. Good campaign stunt until it gets discovered.
We really don't need a phony for President.
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No, I didn't notice that. But then, I'm not obsessed with the man.
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Does this really need to be posted here in the Obamaclub......err O'club?
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We really don't need a phony for President.
THAT SEEMS ABOUT ALL WE'VE HAD FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW
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No, I didn't notice that. But then, I'm not obsessed with the man.
I think its the political party.
shamus
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No, I didn't notice that. But then, I'm not obsessed with the man.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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Does this really need to be posted here in the Obamaclub......err O'club?
I'm waiting for all of these Obama threads' to be merged into a big disjointed General Obama Discussion Thread.
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I'm waiting for all of these Obama threads' to be merged into a big disjointed General Obama Discussion Thread.
:lol
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That will just be a 100 page (eventually locked) thread about how everyone except 2 or 3 people hate Obama.... I dont like him, but I dont like McCain either. Only difference is McCain worked to get where he is.
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Obama Well end race boreders. :cry :cry Now the theres nothing to whine about.
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Why qualify it with race?
Obama will end borders. :aok
P.S. The fainting stopped when they finally figured out how to mask his B.O. ;)
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I'm waiting for all of these Obama threads' to be merged into a big disjointed General Obama Discussion Thread.
Ooh, we could have one big General Obama Discussion and one big General McCain Discussion, both stickies, and see which one gets bigger faster. I'm all a twitter just thinking about it! OK, maybe not.
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No, I didn't notice that. But then, I'm not obsessed with the man.
Yeah, why pay any attention to the man who may well be the next president of the USA? :rolleyes: Sure, just vote for a candidate without any consideration to his character, behavior, campaign tactics. That is just the perfect way to choose. "Head in sand, pick at random" I guess. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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So not obsessing over his every move and then overreacting to the extreme at every possible flaw = "head in the sand"? If so, then yeah, I suppose my head is in the sand. And I have a fair idea where yours is. I hope you didn't eat taco bell last night.
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THAT SEEMS ABOUT ALL WE'VE HAD FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW
Since I started noticing these things: Carter seemed a genuine person. Reagan seemed genuine to me as well. A real person of emotional stature. Bush Sr. seemed genuine although not anywhere near as commanding a figure as Reagan. Clinton always came off as dense shiny plastic to me, I never trusted a thing he said. Finally, Bush Jr comes off as, well......a simple twit.
Thats how Ive seen these guys since about 1976.
Obama just plain worries me, along the same lines as Clinton did. A great talker...great at manipulation. I think Obama "could" pull it off and be a decent President, but I really seriously doubt it. Just too young in life to manage himself realistically under such incredibly demanding times.
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I'd rather see Obama and the farting woman.
By the way if you try to call from Uranus you will get crappy reception.
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Yeah, why pay any attention to the man who may well be the next president of the USA? :rolleyes: Sure, just vote for a candidate without any consideration to his character, behavior, campaign tactics. That is just the perfect way to choose. "Head in sand, pick at random" I guess. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Seems to me there is more then one person who may very well be the next president.
but thee is only 1 here who gets their arse combed over with a microscope for any conceivable flaw or misstep, real or imagined.
If your honestly and truely that concerned with the statement you just made.
I challange you to look at McCain with the same equally critical eye.
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Seems to me there is more then one person who may very well be the next president.
but thee is only 1 here who gets their arse combed over with a microscope for any conceivable flaw or misstep, real or imagined.
If your honestly and truely that concerned with the statement you just made.
I challange you to look at McCain with the same equally critical eye.
How about you do it as a balance to those like myself who find Obama a poor choice due to his actions and statements?
I am turning it over to you to provide balance, tell us how the man who has served the nation so long and so well, suffered and survived, whos what, 20+ years in Congress are not equal to Obamas 3 years in Congress.
Yes Dreidock, you please provide the balance and show us the light.
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How about you do it as a balance to those like myself who find Obama a poor choice due to his actions and statements?
I am turning it over to you to provide balance, tell us how the man who has served the nation so long and so well, suffered and survived, whos what, 20+ years in Congress are not equal to Obamas 3 years in Congress.
Yes Dreidock, you please provide the balance and show us the light.
Sounds like McCain should have got the nomination in 2000......
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How about you do it as a balance to those like myself who find Obama a poor choice due to his actions and statements?
I am turning it over to you to provide balance, tell us how the man who has served the nation so long and so well, suffered and survived, whos what, 20+ years in Congress are not equal to Obamas 3 years in Congress.
Yes Dreidock, you please provide the balance and show us the light.
not at all. Im challanging you to.
Its not that you cant.
Its that you wont
You only point of the flaws of one and not the other.
You dont analise the two equally.
If fact it seems you do so with extreme bias
you decided long ago that Obama was the next satan and McCain was going to clean everything up.
and that was before you knew anything about any of this.
Now you just point out every flaw just to make your point.
Im no Obama supporter but Mccains POW status was what, 40 years ago?
Irrelevent now. Even less then irrelevent.
And based on how the countries been run., and where its headed in the last 50 years
Im equally unimpressed with anyones congressional experience.
If the roles were reversed and Ted Kennedy were running and some one with less experience were running against him. would you push for Kennedy because of his long time "experience"?
I know I wouldnt
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To all those who think Obama is being unfairly scrutinized by the press or internet bloggers I say "Cry me a river!"
He's a grown man. He's running for the most powerful political office in the world. If he's going to be responsible for national security, if he's going to be setting fiscal and international policy, if he's going to appoint justices to federal courts, then, by crackie, I want to know everything about the man that it is possible to know. All relevant questions should be asked, and answered, before any thinking voter casts a ballot for him: What political philosophy does he follow? Democratic, Marxist, or Socialist? Is he lying when he answers that question? Is he a closet Muslim? Does he favor a foreign policy similar to that of Neville Chamberlain? Is he a closet racist? Will he gut the military and bust the budget with give-away programs?
So far, he hasn't answered those question satisfactorily. There's a possibility that he's either a stuffed shirt or a phoney....or something even worse.
For those who have consistently argued that we can't elect a president who would be any worse that GWB, I say, you're wrong. It can get much worse, especially if we're voting blindly.
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not at all. Im challanging you to.
Its not that you cant.
Its that you wont
You only point of the flaws of one and not the other.
You dont analise the two equally.
If fact it seems you do so with extreme bias
you decided long ago that Obama was the next satan and McCain was going to clean everything up.
and that was before you knew anything about any of this.
Now you just point out every flaw just to make your point.
Im no Obama supporter but Mccains POW status was what, 40 years ago?
Irrelevent now. Even less then irrelevent.
And based on how the countries been run., and where its headed in the last 50 years
Im equally unimpressed with anyones congressional experience.
If the roles were reversed and Ted Kennedy were running and some one with less experience were running against him. would you push for Kennedy because of his long time "experience"?
I know I wouldnt
First, learn to accept human nature as what it is and don't bother trying to change it. I feel McCain is a better choice, and being human of course I will focus on the flaws of the opponent and not on the flaws of my choice.
Second, McCains history, including his years as a POW is not irrelevant. It is among the many things that make him who he is today. That fact can be easily illustrated and understood by his open opposition to the US using torture now with terrorist POW's in our control. It gives him a better understanding of the cost of war than a candidate who has never so much as heard a voice raised in anger, much less a the sounds of battle, killing and death. Maybe Bush wouldn't have been in such a hurry to rush into Iraq if he had been to war?
So, I admittedly won't be focusing on McCains flaws, but I sure as heck will be bringing up Obamas.
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Im no Obama supporter but Mccains POW status was what, 40 years ago?
Irrelevent now.
Never irrelevant . Not in 100 years.
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I just read Barack Obama's Lost Years.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/386abhgm.asp?pg=1
It's a rather long detailing of what he did in the Illinois Senate. It's pretty much just the facts, using articles that the Obamessia wrote himself for a black Chicago paper, the Chicago Defender.
I don't think any Obama supporters or undecideds will read it. It would be a dash of ice water in the face of anyone that really thinks he's something special. To summarize in the words of the author, "The senator's tenure as a state legislator reveals him to be an old-fashioned, big government, race-conscious liberal."
Change? Hardly. SameoleSameole.
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I just read Barack Obama's Lost Years.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/386abhgm.asp?pg=1
It's a rather long detailing of what he did in the Illinois Senate. It's pretty much just the facts, using articles that the Obamessia wrote himself for a black Chicago paper, the Chicago Defender.
I don't think any Obama supporters or undecideds will read it. It would be a dash of ice water in the face of anyone that really thinks he's something special. To summarize in the words of the author, "The senator's tenure as a state legislator reveals him to be an old-fashioned, big government, race-conscious liberal."
Change? Hardly. SameoleSameole.
Yes Toad, that describes him quite well. "The senator's tenure as a state legislator reveals him to be an old-fashioned, big government, race-conscious liberal."
Of course, the MoonbaTs in the USA won't read this, they won't look for it, and will instead deny the truth, (maybe say something as to that not being the "facts" etc), they will instead choose to put hands over ears, close their eyes and repeat "lalalalalalalalalalala" so truth will not intrude on their bathroom fantasies of Obamamania. They won't offer any proof to the opposite, just will say "un uh" :rolleyes:
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Do I have a stalker?
How cool is that? He even thinks I support Obama for President... lol.
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I just read Barack Obama's Lost Years.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/386abhgm.asp?pg=1
It's a rather long detailing of what he did in the Illinois Senate. It's pretty much just the facts, using articles that the Obamessia wrote himself for a black Chicago paper, the Chicago Defender.
I don't think any Obama supporters or undecideds will read it. It would be a dash of ice water in the face of anyone that really thinks he's something special. To summarize in the words of the author, "The senator's tenure as a state legislator reveals him to be an old-fashioned, big government, race-conscious liberal."
Change? Hardly. SameoleSameole.
I read your post on Nuke's board. Was an interesting read. I have to disagree with your conclusion though. I think Obama will bring change, all of it bad.
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Do I have a stalker?
How cool is that? He even thinks I support Obama for President... lol.
I'd write in Hillary if I were you.
Any vote not cast for Obama is a good vote.
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Do I have a stalker?
How cool is that? He even thinks I support Obama for President... lol.
Give me a break, you couldn't be more transparent if you were made of cellophane. You would vote for Louis Farrakhan if he were running simply on the fact that he is black. Hell yes you are planning to vote for Yomama, his failings and weaknesses are invisible to you, the color of his skin is all you need to see. You could no more vote for a non-demodork as you could jump up and reach the moon with your bat.
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If you say so Dumgo.
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So, I admittedly won't be focusing on McCains flaws, but I sure as heck will be bringing up Obamas.
You just made my point
Then your statement of
Yeah, why pay any attention to the man who may well be the next president of the USA? :rolleyes: Sure, just vote for a candidate without any consideration to his character, behavior, campaign tactics. That is just the perfect way to choose. "Head in sand, pick at random" I guess. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Is completely illegitimate because you yourself are guilty of the very action you are being critical of others for doing.
And being in a war doesnt automatically qualify someone to hold the highest office inthe land. I guess you voted for Kerry over Bush then because if his combat experience?
There are a whole host of presidents Who never experienced Combat first hand (including Eisenhower)
Who turned out to be pretty decent presidents.
While others. Such as Grant didnt always turn out to be particularly great ones.
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Never irrelevant . Not in 100 years.
Ok what relivency does it have to now?
Being aganse us using torture?
Gimme a break.
We've used torture before just like every other country. And we will use it again in one form or another.
Difference between now and the last 50-60 years is we used to have other countries do it for us.
And Having that POW experience might even at some point be a detriment inasmuch as that experience might cause him to hold back when what we really might need is to move forward at a critical time.
such as Bush Sr. did in The first Gulf war in ending the ground combat phase too early
Same as there was a reason why they tried to have as many soldiers with no combat experience involved in the D-Day landings so they wouldnt know enough to be afraid which might cause them to hunker down when they needed to charge forward.
I have all the respect for McCain in the world for his POW experience.
But I cant let that be a deciding factor in whom Im going ot vote for.
So far I like neither.
On the points that are Really important. such as their policies I dont find a whole lot to agree with either one.
A snippet here for this one. A snippet here for that one.
But im not convinced either of them would make even an OK let alone good president.
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Ok what relivency does it have to now?
Being aganse us using torture?
I haven't read all of this thread but if you are asking what relevancy does McCain's 5 years as a POW have in the upcoming election I'll offer my own 2 cents. It's about character. About a person's willingness to fight for what he believes is right. About his willingness to voluntarily endure 5 years of hell because of the impact on his fellow countrymen if he took the easy way out which was offered. This in direct contrast to Obama swaying this way and that, pandering to every group he thinks he needs a vote from. Does this mean nothing to you?
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I haven't read all of this thread but if you are asking what relevancy does McCain's 5 years as a POW have in the upcoming election I'll offer my own 2 cents. It's about character. About a person's willingness to fight for what he believes is right. About his willingness to voluntarily endure 5 years of hell because of the impact on his fellow countrymen if he took the easy way out which was offered. This in direct contrast to Obama swaying this way and that, pandering to every group he thinks he needs a vote from. Does this mean nothing to you?
Again. 40 years ago.
he's not the same man he was 40 years ago.
Nobody is the same person they were 40 years ago.
No relivence to today.
And if you dont think McCain shifts positions also.
I suggest you take a closer look.
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Again. 40 years ago.
he's not the same man he was 40 years ago.
Nobody is the same person they were 40 years ago.
No relivence to today.
And if you dont think McCain shifts positions also.
I suggest you take a closer look.
McCain changes his position as any reasonable person would based on a changing environment. Obama changes position purely for political reasons. Do you want to debate this?
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Obama is backing out of the town hall debates suggested by McCain....why do you suppose this is? Maybe its about character, or lack thereof. Or possibly the absence of TelePrompter's :huh
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McCain changes his position as any reasonable person would based on a changing environment. Obama changes position purely for political reasons. Do you want to debate this?
there is nothing to debate.
they ALL change positions for political reasons
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they ALL change positions
i thought that was the definition of politician :D
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Ok what relivency does it have to now?
The most very obvious.
He served for his country and did all that time in a POW camp.
Most people , if they were fortunate to get out alive, would have left it at that.
McCain instead chose to continue to serve his country and is still doing so.
WTF has Borax done for his country other than sop gravy with a cathead biscuit?
Irrelevant ? Hardly.
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I can't reveal my methods but my experiments show that MT is a Libertarian masquerading as a Lib to see how many panties he can wad up on one bbs.
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I can't reveal my methods but my experiments show that MT is a Libertarian masquerading as a Lib to see how many panties he can wad up on one bbs.
How am I doing?
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I think you're doing pretty well. Of course, this place is sorta know for easily waddable panties, isn't it?
You might have quite a future as a bare hook fisherman if you decide to try something new.
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Again. 40 years ago.
he's not the same man he was 40 years ago.
Nobody is the same person they were 40 years ago.
No relivence to today.
And if you dont think McCain shifts positions also.
I suggest you take a closer look.
you bring up a very valid point that everyone seems t ignore....when it's convienent to them to do so.
EVERY candidate will change views, give vague answers, beat around the bush, etc.
they will ALL have their conferences with "planted" questions, or with guests screened before they're allowed to ask a question.
they all do the very same chit. they want to gain the favor of the people. it is nothing more than a popularity contest. whatever needs to be said will be said. they know that most will forget in about 6 months.
i don't care for osama due to what i read. on the other hand, i really don't care for mccain either.
the fact remains though, they'll both say or do what they feel they have to do to gain your favor. the reason some of you notice osama doing these things more is due to the fact that you hate him or what he stands for. those of you that notice mcpain doing these things is due to the fact that you hate him or wqhat he stands for.
just my 2 cents, which aren't worth the time it took to type this :D
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you bring up a very valid point that everyone seems t ignore....when it's convienent to them to do so.
EVERY candidate will change views, give vague answers, beat around the bush, etc.
they will ALL have their conferences with "planted" questions, or with guests screened before they're allowed to ask a question.
they all do the very same chit. they want to gain the favor of the people. it is nothing more than a popularity contest. whatever needs to be said will be said. they know that most will forget in about 6 months.
i don't care for osama due to what i read. on the other hand, i really don't care for mccain either.
the fact remains though, they'll both say or do what they feel they have to do to gain your favor. the reason some of you notice osama doing these things more is due to the fact that you hate him or what he stands for. those of you that notice mcpain doing these things is due to the fact that you hate him or wqhat he stands for.
just my 2 cents, which aren't worth the time it took to type this :D
Verily, You've uncovered the true evil of Party-partisan politics. And why even 8 years' from now, This BBS will still be arguing the same arguments...But with different candidates. People are two damn GOP or DNC to pull their heads' out.
You can actually think of those two parties' as a Hammer and an anvil, hammering this country between them into something unrecognizable from the true greatness it once had.
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If you say so Dumgo.
LOL check you legs for stains, ask laz how hard they are to get out.
Dumgo, thats funny! I don'g care who you are.
Bet I am an obama voter now too... ;)
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LOL check you legs for stains, ask laz how hard they are to get out.
Dumgo, thats funny! I don'g care who you are.
Bet I am an obama voter now too... ;)
Lesse, where do you live, Kalifornia? Yep, your vote goes to Obama.
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Well the state almost surely will but my personal vote won't lol.
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you bring up a very valid point that everyone seems t ignore....when it's convienent to them to do so.
EVERY candidate will change views, give vague answers, beat around the bush, etc.
they will ALL have their conferences with "planted" questions, or with guests screened before they're allowed to ask a question.
they all do the very same chit. they want to gain the favor of the people. it is nothing more than a popularity contest. whatever needs to be said will be said. they know that most will forget in about 6 months.
i don't care for osama due to what i read. on the other hand, i really don't care for mccain either.
the fact remains though, they'll both say or do what they feel they have to do to gain your favor. the reason some of you notice osama doing these things more is due to the fact that you hate him or what he stands for. those of you that notice mcpain doing these things is due to the fact that you hate him or wqhat he stands for.
just my 2 cents, which aren't worth the time it took to type this :D
Not at all.
Its worth the breath of fresh air it brings.
With all the Chicken Little type panic going on around here.
Your one of the few actually THINKING with a clear head.
I feel exactly the same as you about the "geezer and the teaser"
I dont care for either of them.
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Verily, You've uncovered the true evil of Party-partisan politics. And why even 8 years' from now, This BBS will still be arguing the same arguments...But with different candidates. People are two damn GOP or DNC to pull their heads' out.
You can actually think of those two parties' as a Hammer and an anvil, hammering this country between them into something unrecognizable from the true greatness it once had.
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
If Jesus Christ himself (or other angelic perfect type person for non believers) were running for one party
And Satan (or some other evil wretched horrible person again for non believers) were running for the other party.
People would STILL cheer lead and vote their party regardless of whom were running for each party
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This board is bored.
Obama and the fainting women?
« on: August 02, 2008, 10:48:23 AM » Quote
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Anybody notice that once the press started picking up on a pattern of a fainting woman near the front row at Obamas appearances, and showed how he "handled it" the same way each time, that the episodes of fainting women all of a sudden stopped? Coincidence? I doubt it.
Seems similar to Hillary's staff planting prepared questions at her appearances I think. Good campaign stunt until it gets discovered.
We really don't need a phony for President.
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Where's the poker format?
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Ditto.
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A poker room would be nice. No perkies or paypals, just something to pass the time while we await masherbum's next post. (or storch's next brawl)
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How about a poke-sheep room