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Title: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: MjTalon on August 02, 2008, 03:02:54 PM
Well recently since i've been in my military academy ( still here ) i've had the chance to read up ALOT about the P-47 and i'm amazed. I'm thinking about turning into a P-47 Nut for the next few months when i graduate 8/23/08 but i'm still going to be primarly flying my precious 109 in AvA/SEA with the mighty 11th ( <salute> Stampf ).

I have ALOT of information about wingman tactics/tatical flying/Formation/Brev. Code/ etc that i can't wait to share with rook nation when i come home, but just a heads up to everyone so you won't be shocked when i'm flying the P47 primarly the -40, N in MA.

Chow's for now gent's <salute>


PS: any jug jocks got any tips?
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: angelsandair on August 02, 2008, 03:13:52 PM
Dont underestimate it when you see one. I've been able to out turn almost any spit 8 that I met co-alt. (A few Spit 16s too) I set the 8 .50s at 225 just because they merge all at 400 which is the best distance to shoot at (as most 109 loves would know, so if you just use the same convergence, it shouldn't be hard.) When you BnZ (which I usually do in a Jug, best thing for it) I dont cut throttle all the way, I only about halve it. So that way I have enough speed to still recover. I read that in the game, the alt recovery of a Jug is something like 85-90%. :salute
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: Nilsen on August 02, 2008, 03:23:28 PM
I can pretty much promise you that I wont be shocked if you fly the p47.

I will remain calm.
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: Redlegs on August 02, 2008, 04:22:51 PM
Well recently since i've been in my military academy ( still here ) i've had the chance to read up ALOT about the P-47 and i'm amazed. I'm thinking about turning into a P-47 Nut for the next few months when i graduate 8/23/08 but i'm still going to be primarly flying my precious 109 in AvA/SEA with the mighty 11th ( <salute> Stampf ).

I have ALOT of information about wingman tactics/tatical flying/Formation/Brev. Code/ etc that i can't wait to share with rook nation when i come home, but just a heads up to everyone so you won't be shocked when i'm flying the P47 primarly the -40, N in MA.

Chow's for now gent's <salute>


PS: any jug jocks got any tips?

D40 and N are sissy Jugs. Real men fly razorbacks.  :cool:

<S> Talen
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: balance1 on August 02, 2008, 05:11:57 PM
D40 and N are sissy Jugs. Real men fly razorbacks.  :cool:

<S> Talen
I second that notion
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: WMLute on August 02, 2008, 05:25:42 PM
Scared me.

I thought my ex-wife had found a new boy toy.
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: Masherbrum on August 02, 2008, 09:35:11 PM
look up my squaddie Bj229r or Nomde.   Those two are far and away the best I've ever seen in them.
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: Redlegs on August 02, 2008, 10:16:52 PM
also check out J.U.G.S.
http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/AH_JUGS/cal (http://games.groups.yahoo.com/group/AH_JUGS/cal)
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: angelsandair on August 02, 2008, 10:18:13 PM
I'm more of a P-47D25 person myself. (as my squad's historical skin art is on it :rock )
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: Messiah on August 03, 2008, 05:13:30 PM
109 Dweeb
AvA-JG11
XO- ~AArch AAngels DivI87~

Traitors will be shot on sight!
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: Dragon on August 04, 2008, 08:22:53 AM
D40 and N are sissy Jugs. Real men fly razorbacks.  :cool:

<S> Talen


X3
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: Hap on August 04, 2008, 09:51:15 AM
PS: any jug jocks got any tips?

Try it light: 6 50's 256 per gun; low'ish fuel and dt.  Try it.
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: Wingnutt on August 04, 2008, 10:52:22 AM
light 8 gun pack is probably the best bang for the buck, you get a good climb rate (bette than the 51) and still juggish 8 50 cals.

I typically up with 50% and a centerline drop, ditch the tank when I get to the fight..

one thing useful to do in the jug, especially in the typical MA gangtard environment, its set a lower limit to your combat altitude I think the term is "soft deck".. I.E. if there are many cons around, make it a point to never stray BELOW  5000 feet, if you get in a pickle, the 5k is your insurance policy, giving you the option to dive away and regroup if things start getting out of hand..i

f your on the deck and slow, your in a bad place, the jug is a solid ride, but slow and low really puts it out of its element.
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: Hajo on August 04, 2008, 10:57:58 AM
The Jug is very deadly low and slow.  Don't underestimate that fact.  4 notches of flaps and rudder it will get around on anything that is equal speed.
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: ian5440 on August 04, 2008, 12:53:36 PM
The Jug is very deadly low and slow.  Don't underestimate that fact.  4 notches of flaps and rudder it will get around on anything that is equal speed.

maybe, but i will try never to get that low to find out, it just seems like way to many planes can out maneuver it on the deck
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: angelsandair on August 04, 2008, 01:20:31 PM
maybe, but i will try never to get that low to find out, it just seems like way to many planes can out maneuver it on the deck



Yes, but about 90% of those planes that can out maneuver it cant out run it. The saying goes that if you can out maneuver it, you cant out run it, if you can out run it, you cant out maneuver it.
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: Adonai on August 04, 2008, 02:04:31 PM

Yes, but about 90% of those planes that can out maneuver it cant out run it. The saying goes that if you can out maneuver it, you cant out run it, if you can out run it, you cant out maneuver it.

uhh me109s? Can out turn, out run and out climb The standard Jug-11/D40 - Firepower and diving is only ability Jug has against a 109 at any Alt below 20k - Would suggest learning to ho in a Jug if you run against a 109  :aok

Its true with Wep a 47 is faster on the deck then 109 - however simple 5k alt 109 just runs from a Jug.
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: BaldEagl on August 04, 2008, 02:07:06 PM
Like this?

(http://jiakhang.blogs.friendster.com/photos/uncategorized/fat_man.JPG)
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: Spikes on August 04, 2008, 02:07:52 PM
I've had fun in the jug before. Took the smallest gun pack with 25% and drop in a D11 into ozkansas to fightertown. Has way too much fun as I was making all the pilots that had better turning planes, as I was keeping up with their turn.
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: ian5440 on August 04, 2008, 02:15:22 PM
Like this?

(http://jiakhang.blogs.friendster.com/photos/uncategorized/fat_man.JPG)

exactly  :rofl
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: Wingnutt on August 04, 2008, 08:54:07 PM

Yes, but about 90% of those planes that can out maneuver it cant out run it. The saying goes that if you can out maneuver it, you cant out run it, if you can out run it, you cant out maneuver it.

jug accelerates very slowly, even planes with a lower top speed will catch it on the deck form an equal start before the jug's top speed comes in to play.
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: angelsandair on August 05, 2008, 12:31:50 AM
jug accelerates very slowly, even planes with a lower top speed will catch it on the deck form an equal start before the jug's top speed comes in to play.

Not if we had the P-47M
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: Wingnutt on August 05, 2008, 12:45:32 AM
Not if we had the P-47M

true story!!!
 :rock :rock :rock
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: angelsandair on August 05, 2008, 01:01:16 AM
I personally have been growing closer to the P-47D25, as Greebo made my squadrons historical P-47 skin.  :rock :rock
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: ian5440 on August 05, 2008, 01:19:25 AM
indeed, 47's are awesome.... i actually like any plane that can get shot at a bunch and still survive (ie f6f f4f p47) because it tends to go sour for me when i see an nme icon  :D
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: Dragon on August 05, 2008, 08:13:22 AM
Like this?

(http://jiakhang.blogs.friendster.com/photos/uncategorized/fat_man.JPG)

Bald, please tell me you found and saved this picture purely by accident. 
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: BaldEagl on August 05, 2008, 09:34:51 AM
Bald, please tell me you found and saved this picture purely by accident. 

Internet search.
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: VonMessa on August 05, 2008, 09:45:30 AM
Talon, you blaspheme!!!!!!!

You may now find someone else to to keep watch of your 109 til you come back.

 :noid
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: Dragon on August 05, 2008, 09:50:25 AM
Internet search.

OMG, I'd have to break my fingers if they ever went to Google and tried to type " 20,000 LB Lover"  :rofl
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: dunnrite on August 05, 2008, 12:54:35 PM
Like this?

(http://jiakhang.blogs.friendster.com/photos/uncategorized/fat_man.JPG)

Good to see your losing weight Bald :lol
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: MjTalon on August 05, 2008, 02:36:24 PM
nein, von i'm still a 109 fanatic :)
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: LilMak on August 05, 2008, 03:01:40 PM
If you see me in the MA give me a holler and we'll wing up. I'm flying a P47-D40 about 85% of the time.
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: AquaShrimp on August 05, 2008, 05:24:13 PM
I love seeing P47s. They are so easy to shoot down. I squeal in delight.
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: LilMak on August 05, 2008, 09:24:54 PM
I love seeing P47s. They are so easy to shoot down. I squeal in delight.

I love people who underestimate my jug. They usually squeal in pain after feeling the wrath of 8 Brownings.
Title: Re: Turning into a 20,000LB lover?
Post by: Redlegs on August 05, 2008, 09:31:08 PM
I love people who underestimate my jug. They usually squeal in pain after feeling the wrath of 8 Brownings.

People who encounter my Jugs underestimate how many rounds it will take for them to kill me.  :frown: