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Title: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: Stage1 on August 03, 2008, 01:51:31 PM
How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
 1955-1975 cars only!


This is my 1969 Buick GS400 Stage1 Convertible.
Got this car for $600.00 back in 1989, I'm the 2nd owner. I drag raced the car for years, ran 13.62@102mph in the 1/4 mile. Then I found out how many where made and stopped racing it.

1969 Buick GS 400 convertibles: 1,776 made, and out of 1,776, only 212 had the Stage 1 motor.
1969 BUICK GS 400              Dsp/Eng          Fair         Good          Exc            Show   
2D HARDTOP 1968-69          400/V8          $8,500      $16,500    $33,000        $40,000 
2D CONVERTIBLE 1968-69    400/V8          $11,000     $21,500    $43,000        $52,000
Add: Stage1 $3,000      http://www.manheimgold.com/car_lo.html

(http://media.carcrazycentral.com/data/Photo/carcrazy_radE05A_large.jpg)
(http://media.carcrazycentral.com/data/Photo/carcrazy_radE057_large.jpg)
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: texasmom on August 03, 2008, 02:10:58 PM
Husband gave me a 71 pontiac firebird when we were first married. He had 72 mustang mach1. I wrecked one and drove the other one into the ground.  Then he had some blue pontiac called a sunbird. 70 - 74... somewhere around those years.

He's thinking of getting back into working on cars again... and not letting me drive them this go-around.
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: DiabloTX on August 03, 2008, 05:34:56 PM
Why is it only 1955 - 1975?  If you can't include modern you shouldn't include prior '60 or after '74.  The '87 Buick GNX's were monster muscle cars in any era.
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: john9001 on August 03, 2008, 05:41:17 PM
i don't have a muscle car, my car gets 32mpg........hahaha
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: FrodeMk3 on August 03, 2008, 06:01:46 PM
How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
 1955-1975 cars only!


This is my 1969 Buick GS400 Stage1 Convertible.
Got this car for $600.00 back in 1989, I'm the 2nd owner. I drag raced the car for years, ran 13.62@102mph in the 1/4 mile. Then I found out how many where made and stopped racing it.

1969 Buick GS 400 convertibles: 1,776 made, and out of 1,776, only 212 had the Stage 1 motor.
1969 BUICK GS 400              Dsp/Eng          Fair         Good          Exc            Show   
2D HARDTOP 1968-69          400/V8          $8,500      $16,500    $33,000        $40,000 
2D CONVERTIBLE 1968-69    400/V8          $11,000     $21,500    $43,000        $52,000
Add: Stage1 $3,000      http://www.manheimgold.com/car_lo.html

(http://media.carcrazycentral.com/data/Photo/carcrazy_radE05A_large.jpg)
(http://media.carcrazycentral.com/data/Photo/carcrazy_radE057_large.jpg)

If you would have changed this to 'had', you would have had some more interesting responses, I'm sure-I 'had' a 1969 4-bbl 390 4-speed Mach 1 Mustang. But, the key word there is 'had'.

If I could extend it to now, I'd say my '07 R/T Charger-but the year limitation gets' me. (I'd also list my old '91 Formula 350 Firebird in the 'had' column.)

Hey, Stage1, it would be a good idea to go and blot out that front License plate number out of the photo-You stated it was a valuable car, and a potential car thief with some PC talent could use the plate to find out where you live, and try to boost your car.
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: Roundeye on August 03, 2008, 06:09:43 PM
Why is it only 1955 - 1975?  If you can't include modern you shouldn't include prior '60 or after '74.  The '87 Buick GNX's were monster muscle cars in any era.

 :aok

Now your talkin!  I had a GN (no GNX).  Many "muscle cars" found out that there is a replacement for displacement.  It's called boost.  GNs are bad enough but a GNX will flat embarrass you.
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: Bronk on August 03, 2008, 06:11:16 PM
Why is it only 1955 - 1975?  If you can't include modern you shouldn't include prior '60 or after '74.  The '87 Buick GNX's were monster muscle cars in any era.
Because he hates getting blown into the weeds by modern muscle. :noid
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: AKIron on August 03, 2008, 06:13:32 PM
Why is it only 1955 - 1975?  If you can't include modern you shouldn't include prior '60 or after '74.  The '87 Buick GNX's were monster muscle cars in any era.

After '72 imo. '73 is when the smog crap and reduced compression made it's appearance.
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: Bronk on August 03, 2008, 06:22:25 PM
After '72 imo. '73 is when the smog crap and reduced compression made it's appearance.
Look at muscle from 82 forward. Ford kicked off the HP comeback with the 82 Mustang GT. Everything has been getting better from there.
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: DiabloTX on August 03, 2008, 07:09:35 PM
After '72 imo. '73 is when the smog crap and reduced compression made it's appearance.

The '73 - '74 Pontiac SD 455's were the last of the classic Muscle Cars IMHO.
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on August 03, 2008, 08:03:47 PM
84 Buick TType Regal. Right now. I also drive a 69 Camaro 350/255 4 speed  (raced in G/S) that belongs to a friend who also has a 69 Camaro 427/425 automatic (raced in AA/SA). I'm working on picking up a 69 Chevelle SS to be raced with a 427/425 in A/S or A/SA.
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: Masherbrum on August 03, 2008, 08:08:52 PM
Pops949 has the baddest Muscle car so far in the Community. 
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: Capt.Joe on August 03, 2008, 08:55:14 PM
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c312/alohajoe_/RestoMods05008-1.jpg)
1966 Mustang Convt. Completely stock and all numbers match the originals back in '66. See at Hot August Nights in Reno this week  :aok
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: Stage1 on August 03, 2008, 08:55:41 PM
Why is it only 1955 - 1975?  If you can't include modern you shouldn't include prior '60 or after '74.  The '87 Buick GNX's were monster muscle cars in any era.

I wanted to see how many of you had real Muscle cars(i.e. the big money cars, 426 Hemi's, 427's, 454's, 400's, 455's Olds, Buick's and Pontiac's, 428 and 429's and 390, 401 AMC's and small blocks too, so on)
Many muscle cars where made from 1955-1975, Chrysler started it with the 300's Hemi's in 1955, and it ended with BOP's(Buick,Olds, and Pontiac) in 1975.

Side note the first real "muscle cars" where built in the 1930's, DUESENBERG had 270hp in 1930 with the inline supercharged 8(it would do 102mph in 2nd gear!!), and that was when V8 Fords, and Chevy's only had a max hp of 60.

If you want to talk about New muscle cars, thats fine.
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: AAolds on August 03, 2008, 09:04:49 PM
<---no Muscle car by the parameters set here.  But I do have a Red '84 T-Top Camaro with a V8, Iroc Rear end and a shift kit. 
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on August 03, 2008, 09:10:02 PM
Pops949 has the baddest Muscle car so far in the Community. 

And that is?
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: WWhiskey on August 03, 2008, 09:21:30 PM
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg229/WWhiskey/funny-muscle-cars-comedy-pics.jpg)

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: Masherbrum on August 03, 2008, 10:02:48 PM
And that is?

67 Shelby GT 350  (borrowed from the "What do you drive?" thread from last year.)

(http://www.65yellowmustang.com/shelby.jpg)

Even in Acapulco Blue.  Yummmmmmmmmmmy.   
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: Roscoroo on August 03, 2008, 10:16:39 PM
your buick is slow . my Gto would leave you with that WTF expression ..along with being alot rarer .(its one of 51 built)
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: DiabloTX on August 03, 2008, 10:18:16 PM
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg229/WWhiskey/funny-muscle-cars-comedy-pics.jpg)

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

That '55 comes out to the Kemah auto meet every weekend.  It was there lastnight, too.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g308/txflood77598/Wicked561.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g308/txflood77598/Wicked562.jpg)

Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: DiabloTX on August 03, 2008, 10:21:06 PM
This guy was there, too.  Parked right next to me.  Claimed he was in the government relocation program, used to fly some virtual vintage fighter game, and came from Oklahoma.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g308/txflood77598/P1010003.jpg)
(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g308/txflood77598/P1010014.jpg)
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: texasmom on August 03, 2008, 10:43:53 PM
Look at muscle from 82 forward. Ford kicked off the HP comeback with the 82 Mustang GT. Everything has been getting better from there.

I think you were joking, right?  Everything after 73/74 was made for women.
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: CAP1 on August 03, 2008, 10:48:45 PM
How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
 1955-1975 cars only!


This is my 1969 Buick GS400 Stage1 Convertible.
Got this car for $600.00 back in 1989, I'm the 2nd owner. I drag raced the car for years, ran 13.62@102mph in the 1/4 mile. Then I found out how many where made and stopped racing it.

1969 Buick GS 400 convertibles: 1,776 made, and out of 1,776, only 212 had the Stage 1 motor.
1969 BUICK GS 400              Dsp/Eng          Fair         Good          Exc            Show   
2D HARDTOP 1968-69          400/V8          $8,500      $16,500    $33,000        $40,000 
2D CONVERTIBLE 1968-69    400/V8          $11,000     $21,500    $43,000        $52,000
Add: Stage1 $3,000      http://www.manheimgold.com/car_lo.html

(http://media.carcrazycentral.com/data/Photo/carcrazy_radE05A_large.jpg)
(http://media.carcrazycentral.com/data/Photo/carcrazy_radE057_large.jpg)

limiting yoursel;f there. why is an 89 stang with a streetaable 450 hp not considered a muscle car?
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: CAP1 on August 03, 2008, 10:51:03 PM
Because he hates getting blown into the weeds by modern muscle. :noid

best thing about modern muscle, is that it'll outrun, outstop, outturn, and outdistance anything fornm the 50's 60's or 70's
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: CAP1 on August 03, 2008, 10:52:32 PM
Look at muscle from 82 forward. Ford kicked off the HP comeback with the 82 Mustang GT. Everything has been getting better from there.

79 mustang was that start :aok

it was the fox chassis. ford built 26(i think) different cars on it. the mustang was on the fox chassis from 79 till 03 or 04 i think,
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: SageFIN on August 04, 2008, 01:49:12 AM
1971 Dodge Charger here, getting back into shape bit by bit. It's the most basic model though, with the 318, so no real muscle there -- yet.
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: DiabloTX on August 04, 2008, 02:06:06 AM
[Borat]That's a real niiiiiice![/Borat]
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: FrodeMk3 on August 04, 2008, 05:46:20 AM
I wanted to see how many of you had real Muscle cars(i.e. the big money cars, 426 Hemi's, 427's, 454's, 400's, 455's Olds, Buick's and Pontiac's, 428 and 429's and 390, 401 AMC's and small blocks too, so on)
Many muscle cars where made from 1955-1975, Chrysler started it with the 300's Hemi's in 1955, and it ended with BOP's(Buick,Olds, and Pontiac) in 1975.

Side note the first real "muscle cars" where built in the 1930's, DUESENBERG had 270hp in 1930 with the inline supercharged 8(it would do 102mph in 2nd gear!!), and that was when V8 Fords, and Chevy's only had a max hp of 60.

If you want to talk about New muscle cars, thats fine.

Even before that, if you want to count the Stutz Bearcat, you can go back as early as 1911.
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: Jackal1 on August 04, 2008, 05:56:05 AM
(http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c312/alohajoe_/RestoMods05008-1.jpg)
1966 Mustang Convt. Completely stock and all numbers match the originals back in '66. See at Hot August Nights in Reno this week  :aok

<Shiver> <double shiver> <puke>
I had a `65 Stang convertible at one time. A biscuit can with wheels.
Hated the damn thing.
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: Bronk on August 04, 2008, 06:31:28 AM
I think you were joking, right?  Everything after 73/74 was made for women.
You have no idea Txmom. I said "started the HP come back". This car lit the fuse that started the hp wars up again. It was (by most of the mags at the time) almost 1 sec faster through the 1/4 mile than its GM counterparts. It woke GM up and they started building quicker f-bodies.
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: Bronk on August 04, 2008, 06:38:26 AM
79 mustang was that start :aok

it was the fox chassis. ford built 26(i think) different cars on it. the mustang was on the fox chassis from 79 till 03 or 04 i think,

While the 79 was the first year for the fox platform mustang. The 82 reintroduced the "HO" engine and the GT name plate.
Thats why I believe 82 was a turning point Detroit iron.
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: Bronk on August 04, 2008, 07:09:07 AM
Guess what this is. :noid
(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n277/1bronk1/guess.jpg)

I'll back it out later for a full body shot.
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: CAP1 on August 04, 2008, 07:41:00 AM
You have no idea Txmom. I said "started the HP come back". This car lit the fuse that started the hp wars up again. It was (by most of the mags at the time) almost 1 sec faster through the 1/4 mile than its GM counterparts. It woke GM up and they started building quicker f-bodies.

yes, they did. it took them till the mid/late 90's till they built a camaro or firebird that was comparable price and could outrun the stang.
 
 from 79 till 95 or so, sotck to stock, mustang was only readily beat by 2 american cars. the grand national, and the corvette.
 the corvette is a different class, and is/was crazy stupid expensive.

 the GN was easy to beat, IF you could get them to race ya without any cooldown time. theyran their best when you let the turbo cool down. the GNX didn't have this problem to the best of my knowledge though.

 handling wise, the Fbodies, corvette, and i think even the GN could outturn a mustang...on paper. but the numbers were close enough, that it came down to who was a better driver.

soooo.....just like in the 60's, gm and chrysler are once again copying off of them. :D
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: DiabloTX on August 04, 2008, 07:47:16 AM
Taken 2 weeks ago in Kemah.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g308/txflood77598/TheJudge.jpg)

Very niiiiiice.
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: CAP1 on August 04, 2008, 08:01:03 AM
While the 79 was the first year for the fox platform mustang. The 82 reintroduced the "HO" engine and the GT name plate.
Thats why I believe 82 was a turning point Detroit iron.


you could well be right,

i mostly state 79, as it's the first year of the fox body mustang, and it was also used to pace the indy 500. i think that was more of a wakeup call to gm than the 82gt.

 i had an 83 mustang gl, special ordered with a 5.0, 5 speed. it only ran 15'2 in stock trim, but stock camaros were slower. none took me on the track.
 when i did the normal bolt ons, she dropped to 13.8@101. similarly modified gm's still were slower. more heavily modified ones obviously were quicker.

Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: CAP1 on August 04, 2008, 08:01:35 AM
Guess what this is. :noid
(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n277/1bronk1/guess.jpg)

I'll back it out later for a full body shot.

either a gs or a judge
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: lazs2 on August 04, 2008, 08:15:35 AM
My daily driver is a 69 El Camino SS 396.    It is a factory SS big block 4 speed car with air and disc brakes and power steering, and 12 bolt posi.   It was a real optioned out SS car.   I blew up the 396 and so now it runs a 468 and a 6 speed Richmond gear tranny... I dumped the factory air and put in a vintage air system.  I run hotchkiss and bilstein suspension and big rear brakes.  It is being painted right now.

My other "muscle car" is a 55 100 four Healey..  they really were muscle cars for their day..  2100 lbs and they had a huge motor with a four speed overdrive.. they really would do over 100 mph back in 55... I have owned mine for over 30 years..  It has a solid lifter 331 small block chevy in it with 11.5 to 1 pistons and a 750 double pumper.   I run a muncie 4 speed and a narrowed chevy rear in it.   original magnesium (not aluminum) American mags..   the body is ratty and the interior is new.

lazs
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: DiabloTX on August 04, 2008, 08:18:49 AM
either a gs or a judge

If it was a Judge it'd have the fender stripes, assuming the car is original. 

What do you mean by GS?  A Buick?  Surely not...
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: Bronk on August 04, 2008, 08:23:56 AM
If it was a Judge it'd have the fender stripes, assuming the car is original. 

What do you mean by GS?  A Buick?  Surely not...
It's not a Judge. It is a 68 GTO RAM AIR I.  A 4 speed with 4.33s makes for brisk acceleration.
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: DiabloTX on August 04, 2008, 08:32:58 AM
Post up pics, biotch! ! ! ! ! !

;)
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: Stage1 on August 04, 2008, 08:34:53 AM
This is a 1970 Buick GSX 455 Stage1, 370hp and 510ft of torque, the most torque of any production muscle car. (678 made in 1970, 124 made in 1971, 44 made in 1972)
(http://www.buickgsx.net/Pictures/1970%20GSX/y70gsx50.jpg)
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: CAP1 on August 04, 2008, 09:02:55 AM
If it was a Judge it'd have the fender stripes, assuming the car is original. 

What do you mean by GS?  A Buick?  Surely not...

good point.

gs= grand sport
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: CAP1 on August 04, 2008, 09:04:04 AM
It's not a Judge. It is a 68 GTO RAM AIR I.  A 4 speed with 4.33s makes for brisk acceleration.

brisk?

my 93 geo prism gives brisk acceleration.  :D

m 78 fairmont on the other hand.......that flattens yer eyeballs
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: Stage1 on August 04, 2008, 10:29:35 AM
good point.

gs= grand sport

GS=Gran Sport, Not Grand
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: Jappa52 on August 04, 2008, 11:10:10 AM
If I ever have the opportunity I would love to own a judge or a chevelle.  Both are beeeeautiful cars…

Taken 2 weeks ago in Kemah.

(http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g308/txflood77598/TheJudge.jpg)

Very niiiiiice.

(http://www.futureclassicsnj.com/Cars/blkchevdsfrt454.JPG)
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: Steve on August 04, 2008, 11:21:00 AM
I love old muscle cars. I eat 'em up at the track but I still think they are freakin cool!!  I wish I had one: old mustang, chevelle, goat.  I like the old AMX's a lot too. A friend of mine had one..... very cool.
Title: Re: How many of you have Real Muscle cars?
Post by: CAP1 on August 04, 2008, 11:26:42 AM
GS=Gran Sport, Not Grand

whoops.......sorry bout that!!