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Title: Close Call
Post by: Yenny on August 06, 2008, 03:18:10 PM
Check out this pic! I've seen the video of this crash at an air show in Europe. It took place in the 80 or 90 I can't remember. Look at the close call I mean miliseconds from death ?

(http://ejectionseat.com.ne.kr/eject.jpg)
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: evenhaim on August 06, 2008, 03:22:11 PM
might wanna check the language unless you wanna png...
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: lengro on August 06, 2008, 03:40:35 PM
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Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: Reschke on August 06, 2008, 03:48:43 PM
Maybe for the pilot but what about the people that plane crashed on? Not such a great close call in my view.
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: caldera on August 06, 2008, 03:49:05 PM
That looks even closer to the unlucky chumps that were previously enjoying the show. OUCH.
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: mora on August 06, 2008, 03:53:36 PM
Or it's from the crash in Ukraine that killed dozens a couple of years ago?
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: Cthulhu on August 06, 2008, 03:55:58 PM
Or it's from the crash in Ukraine that killed dozens a couple of years ago?
Yep, killed 85 people in July of 2002. Pilot and back-seater were sentenced to 14 and 8 years respectively for violating flight rules.
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: Yenny on August 06, 2008, 03:56:52 PM
In the document video they said, the pilot did the best to fly the plane out of the most crowed area, and only ejected in the last possible second.
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: Cthulhu on August 06, 2008, 04:02:37 PM
The head of the Ukrainian Air Force got canned over this.

How's your Russian?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2136241946237981827
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: Gaidin on August 06, 2008, 04:06:10 PM
where is the story?  Can you post some links to archives or something?  I missed this.
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: Cthulhu on August 06, 2008, 04:06:54 PM
where is the story?  Can you post some links to archives or something?  I missed this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sknyliv_(Ukraine)_airshow_disaster
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: Banshee7 on August 06, 2008, 04:12:48 PM
The head of the Ukrainian Air Force got canned over this.

How's your Russian?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2136241946237981827

 :O :eek:  wow...did you see that up close camera view.....just WOW
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: FrodeMk3 on August 06, 2008, 04:16:26 PM
:O :eek:  wow...did you see that up close camera view.....just WOW

Yes. I believe they found enough of the camera intact, but the same couldn't be said of the photographer.

Yenny, this was a horrible tragedy, no matter which side of the Iron curtain your on. Myself, I wouldn't have used such light or unconsiderate language in posting this.
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: 007Rusty on August 06, 2008, 04:21:19 PM
wow....... the pic looks fake,  ........dam ,,     
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: Banshee7 on August 06, 2008, 04:22:20 PM
Yes. I believe they found enough of the camera intact, but the same couldn't be said of the photographer.

Yenny, this was a horrible tragedy, no matter which side of the Iron curtain your on. Myself, I wouldn't have used such light or unconsiderate language in posting this.

how many were injured and how many were killed in that crash/accident
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: Cthulhu on August 06, 2008, 04:22:32 PM
Yenny, this was a horrible tragedy, no matter which side of the Iron curtain your on. Myself, I wouldn't have used such light or unconsiderate language in posting this.
Give him a break. I don't think he meant any disrespect to the victims. In a way I'm glad the camera was focused on the Su-27 and not the crowd. This is gruesome enough out of focus. :uhoh
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: Cthulhu on August 06, 2008, 04:23:22 PM
how many were injured and how many were killed in that crash/accident
85 killed, over a hundred injured.
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: Yeager on August 06, 2008, 04:31:24 PM
wheres that darned "rule -7" stick @ when u need it?
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: Banshee7 on August 06, 2008, 04:33:54 PM
85 killed, over a hundred injured.

wow....that's awful.  my late condolences to them :salute (when did this happen again (the film)? 2002?
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: Cthulhu on August 06, 2008, 04:35:26 PM
wow....that's awful.  my late condolences to them :salute (when did this happen again (the film)? 2002?
July 2002.

There's a rather graphic post-crash video on the Wikipedia link I posted earlier. It's up to you whether you choose to watch it or not. Very sobering. :salute
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: Yenny on August 06, 2008, 04:58:43 PM
Yes. I believe they found enough of the camera intact, but the same couldn't be said of the photographer.

Yenny, this was a horrible tragedy, no matter which side of the Iron curtain your on. Myself, I wouldn't have used such light or unconsiderate language in posting this.

Oh I'm being straight foward, not like I colored my word of anything. I just said look at the timing on that pilot. I don't think I've said anything offensive. To me that pilot is a hero, staying in as long as he can to pilot the plane out of the crowed area and eject at the last possible second.
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: Golfer on August 06, 2008, 05:00:46 PM
Oh I'm being straight foward, not like I colored my word of anything. I just said look at the timing on that pilot. I don't think I've said anything offensive. To me that pilot is a hero, staying in as long as he can to pilot the plane out of the crowed area and eject at the last possible second.

That's not what he did.
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: Yenny on August 06, 2008, 05:03:26 PM
Oh maybe it was a different one I'm remembering.

:O :eek:  wow...did you see that up close camera view.....just WOW

Is this the same one w/ the picture? in the picture it seems like it was a Mig-29, in the film linked it's an SU-27.
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: BMathis on August 06, 2008, 05:28:30 PM
 :O That pic's insane... I read about this a long time ago, very sad.
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: Donzo on August 06, 2008, 05:59:31 PM
Picture looks fake...everything but the plane is motion-blurred.
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: Buzzard7 on August 06, 2008, 06:02:30 PM
That was all Pilot error. Then he ejected to save his own butt. He should have known that the Flanker could not have recovered from that.
It doesn't even look like the burners were lit. Flankers smoke unless they are in burner.

As for fake, I think not. The reason everything is blurred except the plane is because the photographer was panning the shot on the plane. Follow the moving object and then everything else will be out of focus.
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: Cthulhu on August 06, 2008, 07:00:40 PM
Picture looks fake...everything but the plane is motion-blurred.
Cameraman was tracking the plane. Maybe the blurriness is because the people couldn't manage to move as fast as the airplane. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: Cthulhu on August 06, 2008, 07:08:57 PM
Oh maybe it was a different one I'm remembering.

Is this the same one w/ the picture? in the picture it seems like it was a Mig-29, in the film linked it's an SU-27.
Yenny, it's a 2-seater SU-27.
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: Rich46yo on August 06, 2008, 07:54:55 PM
I followed one of the links and then wished I hadnt. Its heartbreaking to see the broken little bodies of children on the pavement.

This was a terrible event.
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: Ripsnort on August 06, 2008, 08:03:10 PM
I followed one of the links and then wished I hadnt. Its heartbreaking to see the broken little bodies of children on the pavement.

This was a terrible event.
When the camera person walks past the pilot and his chute, there is a person in front of a prop transport who was in a lawn chair, cut in half.

Ugh.
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: SD67 on August 07, 2008, 05:50:19 AM
That's pretty nasty.
This will not end well.
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: mora on August 07, 2008, 06:18:32 AM
Picture looks fake...everything but the plane is motion-blurred.

Every time something out of the ordinary is posted in the inTARDnet someone arrives with these ridiculous fake calls. A nice example I came across a few days ago, check the comments:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FCYMx6XzUA&feature=related



Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: CAP1 on August 07, 2008, 08:20:13 AM
The head of the Ukrainian Air Force got canned over this.

How's your Russian?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2136241946237981827


i think this is a different one than the one pictured in the beginning of the thread. look at the video. it's hitting the ground with the left wing dipped, and nose slightly high.

 the one in the pic, on the other hand, is hitting in a nose low attitude.
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: Cthulhu on August 07, 2008, 09:54:29 AM
I followed one of the links and then wished I hadnt. Its heartbreaking to see the broken little bodies of children on the pavement.

This was a terrible event.

When the camera person walks past the pilot and his chute, there is a person in front of a prop transport who was in a lawn chair, cut in half.

Ugh.

I warned you guys.
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: Cthulhu on August 07, 2008, 10:04:34 AM

i think this is a different one than the one pictured in the beginning of the thread. look at the video. it's hitting the ground with the left wing dipped, and nose slightly high.

 the one in the pic, on the other hand, is hitting in a nose low attitude.
Yeah, but there's no clear view of the actual impact in the video (thankfully). I'm guessing the image posted by Yenny was taken by a still photographer who just managed to get "the" shot. If it was a frame from a video, the video would probably be out there on the web somewhere.
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: Donzo on August 07, 2008, 10:07:43 AM
Every time something out of the ordinary is posted in the inTARDnet someone arrives with these ridiculous fake calls. A nice example I came across a few days ago, check the comments:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FCYMx6XzUA&feature=related





I stand corrected.
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: SD67 on August 07, 2008, 03:49:47 PM
Actually there is a section in the video where you can see the plane pitching into a nose down attitude as the canopy comes off. If the photographer was on the other side as this happened you could see how this pic could have been taken. Note how you cannot see if the left wing is still intact? Also if you look closely at the dust patterns behind the plane you can see it is rotating counter clockwise, so I'd say this was taken just after the initial impact before that aircraft completely broke up.
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: Cthulhu on August 07, 2008, 04:19:08 PM
Actually there is a section in the video where you can see the plane pitching into a nose down attitude as the canopy comes off. If the photographer was on the other side as this happened you could see how this pic could have been taken. Note how you cannot see if the left wing is still intact? Also if you look closely at the dust patterns behind the plane you can see it is rotating counter clockwise, so I'd say this was taken just after the initial impact before that aircraft completely broke up.
OK, I'll trade you infinite malevolent power for just one of your eyes.
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: SD67 on August 07, 2008, 04:33:29 PM
That's OK, I already have infinite malevolent power :D It came with the eyes :P
Title: Re: Close Call
Post by: betty on August 08, 2008, 12:06:40 AM
that totally discussed me....<<S>> to those who died in that incident and those injured.