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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Citabria on May 23, 2001, 10:51:00 PM
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rhetorical question (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
AH death model for ground contact is much more unforgiving than it used to be which is fine.
but would it be possible to refine the damage model from ground contact in a way that allows such damage without instant death?
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i have killed my engine by hitting the ground and then bounced back into the air and glided around for a while
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Right now if any part of your plane hits the ground at a speed over about 100mph you will die.
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That is kinda strange, isn't it?
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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations
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Naw, I've bellied out much faster than 100mph.
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Originally posted by Zigrat:
i have killed my engine by hitting the ground and then bounced back into the air and glided around for a while
Same here Zig, seems all to often though for me! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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I've knocked out an engine this way also - even lost just 1 engine on the twins, and able to fly away (embarrassed, but flying at least (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)) If you're hitting and going boom, it's more than just the prop hitting the ground, or the angle is too great.
If I have to ditch without gear, I prefer to hold speed over 100 kts simply to give myself greater control over the descent rate, without worrying about the kite getting mushy nearer to stall speeds and dropping at the last (wrong) moment.
Cheers
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Angle of decent has a lot to do with surviability.
Only time I've ever died when hitting the ground while performing a ditch or taxi is if the airplane flips over.
I've taking off wings, landing gear, tail, gear... well every part that can fall off and managed to live.
Never taxied into a hanger at 60 mph, so don't know what happens there - I would imagine that should result in death.
Have clipped a wing on the re-arming station - and lived - was only going 5 to 10 mph.
I can't say I find anything wrong with this model, except maybe there should be a 5% chance of living if the airplane flips.
Nexus
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well i think the ditching is ok.
Ive actually rolled a plane and took both wingtips and tail off and ended up in a wrecked fuselage with nothing left on it. and yes i saw the ground go past twice!!.I was shocked i wasnt killed to be honest (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
its all about how you set her down mostly but on rare occations crazy stuff happens which i think is great.
eg i ditched a p51b last night and as i was rolling to a stop a vulcher tried to get me.well i hard ruddered and pushed the nose forward and i swerved violentlythe nose dug in and the plane ground to an almighty stop with lots of breaking sounds (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)...... tail rising...rising ...oh toejam then the view from my cockpit went kind of grassy green (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) BOOM! landed on its back.
great modelling if you ask me (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) you ever seen how easy it is to blow a landing? My friend has a 1938 biplane which his dad ground looped in front of him(ouch) and he said it looked as if he had stopped when suddenly it flipped.you want no flips etc for 100mph+ landing? DUH! fly starwars game (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
<S> pyro on this modelling.I wont complain about this at least eh? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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Hazed
9./JG54
[This message has been edited by hazed- (edited 05-24-2001).]
[This message has been edited by hazed- (edited 05-24-2001).]
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It would be nice if the plane didn't just instantly explode and it actually rolled/etc to cause the damage, but it's not a biggie =)
Freaky things do happen in real life. I've heard stories of planes impacting the ground so hard the cockpit was buried, yet the the pilot had minor injuries. Yet people die in low speed landing accidents.
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Graywolfe <tim@flibble.org>
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Found this last night. I was tryig to get a very heavy B-26 off the ground for a little buff practice. I had to use the ashtray behind me and didn't see the rearm pad hut coming up fast. Well, the port wing whacked it pretty good and it killed the port engine. With NO other damage!! I'd imagine that if you hit that little hut going 120mph it would've ripped the entire wing off.
About hangars: if you drive any vehicle into a hangar any faster than 15 mph you die.
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I'm gonna go out there and remove one of His creations from this universe.
And when I get back I'm gonna drink a bottle of Scotch like it was Chiggy von
Richthofen's blood and celebrate his death."
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In your example of the B-26, it could be the strength of various materials hitting each other...I don't know if AH models this, but I would have imagined in real life the same damage would result to your engine and maybe some minor wing damage, but the wooden hut would have been totalled - except this is not graphicaly represented here.
Regarding hitting the hangar with a tank, having been in many, a collision with ahard object (even the slightest one where the tank still goes through it) jolt can send your face straight into the inside of 4 inches of armor (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) missing teeth, and banged up knees and fingers are quite common (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Snorkey
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In your example of the B-26, it could be the strength of various materials hitting each other...I don't know if AH models this, but I would have imagined in real life the same damage would result to your engine and maybe some minor wing damage, but the wooden hut would have been totalled - except this is not graphicaly represented here.
Regarding hitting the hangar with a tank, having been in many, a collision with ahard object (even the slightest one where the tank still goes through it) jolt can send your face straight into the inside of 4 inches of armor (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) missing teeth, and banged up knees and fingers are quite common (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Snorkey
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Hey, Fatty answered this post, it must have importance and viable gameplay, immediate urgency in topic.
Ooops, theres a bug.