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General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: Greebo on August 08, 2008, 06:03:56 PM
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I would like to skin the aircraft shown below. It looks like an RAF Boston loaned to or taken over by the USAAF and used by the 47th BG in Tunisia. I've got some photos of 47th BG Havocs with a similar ad-hoc sand camo over the basic olive drab/grey scheme, but not found one of a Boston. Anyone got a photo of the real aircraft?
(http://www.fortunecity.com/meltingpot/portland/971/boxart/revellmono/revell_a-20c-havoc.jpg)
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No picture Kemosabe.
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Can't see your picture, but this is what I assume you are talking about. From four different books. Two profiles, two images from the same flight found in different books.
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/47A20.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/A20.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Havoc2.jpg)
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/Havocs.jpg)
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That's strange, the picture shows up in my browser. I've uploaded it to my webspace now and linked from there, hopefully it will work this time.
Thanks for the info Guppy, that is very useful. I like the idea of having the RAF camo under the sand but I can go with OD/grey as a plan B. It is possible the profile of 13157 is wrong about the colours, RAF colours underneath might make more sense if its a Boston. Its hard to tell from the photos, although some of the dark patches on the wings do seem to vary in colour a bit.
(http://www.gfg06.dial.pipex.com/photos/RevellA-20CHavoc.jpg)
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Here's a couple more Greebo. :aok
A-20B s/n: 41-3001 47th BG, 12th AF Youks-Les Bains, Algeria Feb. 43
(http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1131/a20b47thbg12thafns9.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
A-20B s/n: 41-3134 84th BS, 47th BG, 12th AF Medina, Morocco Dec. 42
(http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/8567/a20b84thbs47thbg12thafmgy7.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)
:salute
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That's strange, the picture shows up in my browser. I've uploaded it to my webspace now and linked from there, hopefully it will work this time.
Thanks for the info Guppy, that is very useful. I like the idea of having the RAF camo under the sand but I can go with OD/grey as a plan B. It is possible the profile of 13157 is wrong about the colours, RAF colours underneath might make more sense if its a Boston. Its hard to tell from the photos, although some of the dark patches on the wings do seem to vary in colour a bit.
(http://www.gfg06.dial.pipex.com/photos/RevellA-20CHavoc.jpg)
Wow! I remember that old model kit :)
The model seems to be the top profile and the lead bird in both photos.
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Thanks for the profiles Jester, I'll probably go with 13157 though. Its a bit more interesting as a scheme with the splotchy sand application coupled with the noseart etc.
Unfortunately its not the same aircraft Guppy. The Revell kit's tail number is 13137, while the plane in the profile and photos is 13157. I'm also not so sure 13157 is a Boston now. I can't see any cheek gunpods in the photos and the nose glazing looks wrong for a Boston.
BTW Guppy do you have the book "47th Bomb Group" by Turner Publishing? I was thinking of getting it but its not worth it if you've already taken the photos above from it.
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Thanks for the profiles Jester, I'll probably go with 13157 though. Its a bit more interesting as a scheme with the splotchy sand application coupled with the noseart etc.
Unfortunately its not the same aircraft Guppy. The Revell kit's tail number is 13137, while the plane in the profile and photos is 13157. I'm also not so sure 13157 is a Boston now. I can't see any cheek gunpods in the photos and the nose glazing looks wrong for a Boston.
BTW Guppy do you have the book "47th Bomb Group" by Turner Publishing? I was thinking of getting it but its not worth it if you've already taken the photos above from it.
I don't have that book.
Those are the only photos I've seen of that camo. That Revell kit is quite old too. Could be they fudged a little bit on the markings as it wasn't nearly as important back in the olden days like it is now with model kits.
But the profile and the lead bird in the photo would be a good one.
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Thanks again Guppy, 13157 is probably the one I will do. The Revell kit's scheme is too suspect unless I can find a photo to back it up. To that end I'm going to order the 47th BG book, it should be an interesting read even if it turns out there is no useful information in it for skinning.
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There wasn't anything useful WRT to the skin in the 47th BG book so I went with 13157.
I had to leave the tail number off since the vertical tail is mirrored on the Boston skin. Also the lower wings are mirrored so the lower insignia is on both wings, whereas it should be on just the right wing. Otherwise the skin is fairly accurate.
The skin is up at http://www.ah-skins.com/ (http://www.ah-skins.com/) if you want to take a closer look.
(http://www.ah-skins.com/skins/screenshot492.jpg)
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Greebo, that looks fantastic sir. Hell of a job!
ReDhAwK
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great work :aok
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Very nice!
You guys (all of you guys) have been great about filling out the desert skins... thanks again from the Terrain Team. :aok
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Wow.
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Sweet.
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Greebo, do you ever have time to play the game?
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I think the green should be darker. It's too close to the tan right now. Much like the spots on 109Es and the stripes on C202s, the camo is meant to stand out, as it's a type of disruptive pattern that emulates the shapes and colors of the ground below the planes as they fly low.
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I'm going to disagree with Krusty. I went with my first impression, and it appears dead on. Great work Greebo :aok
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Thanks for the kind words guys.
There's a few layers of sand coloured dirt on the skin, which gives the OD a bit less contrast to the sand paint. I played about with the levels of these dirt layers a fair bit before posting, trying to get it to match the level of contrast in the B&W photos. I may tinker with it some more before sending it in, but I'll leave it a day or two so I can look at it with fresh eyes.
I'm a pretty fast skinner. :) A complete skin takes me about a month, a colour scheme on an existing skin usually a week or so. This scheme took a bit longer as there are three panels to do and all because of all the mirrored areas on the Boston where the OD areas had to be matched up.
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A little late Just thought I would throw in the pictures for future reference. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tailspin_tommy/523948793/in/pool-a20/