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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: goober69 on August 09, 2008, 12:49:42 AM
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im curious what planes you guys thing are easiest to land damaged.
in paticular missing a wingtip i know the 38 is pretty easy to set down with one wingtip missing.
what are some others and how do you do it well, i can do it in a pony but only if its the right wingtip cause of the tourqe.
tips on nursing a damaged plane home or ditching?
and whats the plane you have the most trouble getting home in with oil/control surface damage/ missing wingtips?
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Here are some basic ideas.
Disable Combat Trim if enabled and adjust manual trim for all 3 axes as necessary. Use full flaps on approach. Full flaps are your best friends to help you get on the ground. Be very observant of how your aircraft is responding to power adjustments as you return to base. Watch your heading and rate of descent with power changes after trimming as much as possible, then use that information to position yourself for your approach.
Your goal is to be under 150 MPH, under 1,000 fpm rate of descent, under control and land onto the runway with gear up, compensating for the skidding approach you usually have to set up from the lost wing area.
British and German aircraft may be the most difficult to land with half a wing. It's pretty rare to see Typhoons make it home minus half a wing. US aircraft may be the easiest, collectively. I don't think there is a US fighter that can't be landed with half a wing, maybe... ;)
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Of the planes I fly regularly, The F6F-5 and the Spits are very easy missing half of one or both wings. The 190's are very difficult and require a lot of rudder on final approach.
Of the planes I don't fly regularly I don't think I've ever been able to land a C.205 or an La-5 missing half a wing but I don't have much experience with them in that situation.
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If the plane has wing tanks, switch to manual fuel and draw from the damaged side. Making the good side heavier helps counter the asemetrical lift.
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Of the planes I fly regularly, The F6F-5 and the Spits are very easy missing half of one or both wings. The 190's are very difficult and require a lot of rudder on final approach.
Of the planes I don't fly regularly I don't think I've ever been able to land a C.205 or an La-5 missing half a wing but I don't have much experience with them in that situation.
The Hellcat is a champ in the landing damaged situation....I rarely land without something missing(if I land at all) and you can land an FM2 pretty much the same way. i prefer the carrier landings when beat down horribly as I usually am, cause you get the hook down....and you're money.
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im curious what planes you guys thing are easiest to land damaged.
in paticular missing a wingtip i know the 38 is pretty easy to set down with one wingtip missing.
what are some others and how do you do it well, i can do it in a pony but only if its the right wingtip cause of the tourqe.
tips on nursing a damaged plane home or ditching?
and whats the plane you have the most trouble getting home in with oil/control surface damage/ missing wingtips?
i've landed the 38 missing wing utside the engine nacelle.
landed spit(i forget which version) missing 1/2 of the right wing. was pretty difficult, and i had to touch down much faster than normal.
most recently landed a hellkitty missing part of the right wing. that was the most difficult one. i could barely keep it in the air. i had everything trimmed to the left, but ended up controlling my alt and direction with the thrttle. tried dropping flaps on final, and almost lost it. again, touched down faster than normal. missed the runway, but didn;t care at that point.
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Anything with a high wing area, such as a spit or an F6F, are very east to fly with half a wing. Planes with high wing loading, such as 190's or LA7's, are harder to fly with a half a wing. Its not impossible to land a 190 with half a wing, but its a lot harder to land a spixteen with a half a wing.
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Anything with a high wing area, such as a spit or an F6F, are very east to fly with half a wing. Planes with high wing loading, such as 190's or LA7's, are harder to fly with a half a wing. Its not impossible to land a 190 with half a wing, but its a lot harder to land a spixteen with a half a wing.
now, see..when i landed the spit that way it was verey easy. the hellkitty wasn't though. no matter what i did, or how i trimmed it it was almost impossible to keep it in the air, and then just as hard to get it on the ground.
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for me 262s are the hardest to land with 1 wingtip missing...
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for me 262s are the hardest to land with 1 wingtip missing...
i've never flown the 262. it holds no interest for me. :D
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I can land a 262 with one or two tips missing, I'm just that awesome :aok
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i've never flown the 262. it holds no interest for me. :D
More likely YOU have no perks for IT. :D
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im curious what planes you guys thing are easiest to land damaged.
what are some others and how do you do it well, i can do it in a pony but only if its the right wingtip cause of the tourqe.
Goober, on the 51, turn off your combat trim and drop flaps. On landing, land fast as eventually you sill slow down enough that you can't keep the wings level. It just takes a couple of tries to get the knack, then it's easy. It's cake, regardless of wingtip.
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More likely YOU have no perks for IT. :D
:rofl :rofl
know what? i do have perks, but it seems i never fly the perk planes.
i'm hording my perkies and gonna try n trade em in for a couple free months! :aok :rofl
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I can land a 262 with one or two tips missing, I'm just that awesome :aok
That's actually really easy.
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I've never been able to fly my A6M5b with half a wing, the best I can do is fly it into the ground.
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I've never been able to fly my A6M5b with half a wing, the best I can do is fly it into the ground.
lol in the jap planes im usualy on fire before i i lose a wing. not something i take out of the hanger exactly expecting to land :aok :aok :rock
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B-25H can be extremely difficult to land if you've lost control surfaces.
I had one a few nights ago that I'd just taken on a fighter sweep (yes, I do fly the B-25 as a figher sometimes :D) into a proto-furball, I had a gunner, and as far as I remember, I'd lost:
One engine (oil+engine I think)
Both rudders
One elevator
I think an aileron
Most gunners
At least one fuel leak
I managed to get it back on the runway without any further damage, but it was probably the hardest thing to land I've ever dealt with.
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Yossarian
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I find it easy to land a 262 missing two wingtips and both ailerons and I have only had the chance to try it once but without an elevator added to that. It is actually pretty fun to do.
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The P38 I've landed missing the tips of both wings. As long as you have both engines it'll still fly. Though even with one engine it'll do well.
But the P51 I can barely keep in the air when damaged.
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lol i asked this question and then last night i took out a 38j to bomb a cv. killed the cv lost one elevator one alerion both engines died and lost a rudder. i basicaly coasted maybe 5 miles to the feild i took off from, got gear down ok and set down just over the main pad. i was planign to stop on the main pad or one of the runways but couldnt get it stoped cause i was going across them pretty fast finaly i saw the vh and jsut followed the road till i coasted into the vh nose wheel in. landed sucsesfuly.
p51 is very hard for me to keep in the air unless its the right wing that makes it easier but its still hard to set her down. ive never been able to land missing left wing. cause of the torque i think.
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I find the easyest bird to land with half a wing is the heaviest ones ,sometimes it lands me right into the tower.