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Title: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: angelsandair on August 09, 2008, 03:33:26 AM
Well, if you get your machine guns shot out, you should be able to replace them when you re-arm. Since it's not putting on a new wing or engine, it would be nice to have. In the last FSO, I got jumped by a Zeke, and it shot out all but 4 of my guns, and I had only 3 shooting out of 1 wing. It would be nice though. :aok

Remember it's not a new engine, wing, tail section, just a new gun or 2. Perk it :)

Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: ian5440 on August 09, 2008, 04:22:33 AM
Well, if you get your machine guns shot out, you should be able to replace them when you re-arm. Since it's not putting on a new wing or engine, it would be nice to have. In the last FSO, I got jumped by a Zeke, and it shot out all but 4 of my guns, and I had only 3 shooting out of 1 wing. It would be nice though. :aok

Remember it's not a new engine, wing, tail section, just a new gun or 2. Perk it :)



i can see that, if your re arming a gun it might as well be fixed
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: angelsandair on August 09, 2008, 04:23:40 AM
i can see that, if your re arming a gun it might as well be fixed

If you wanna go through the trouble to re-arm, then let it give you the option to fix your guns.
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: Oleg on August 09, 2008, 06:37:51 AM
Stop asking for repair, its not gonna happen. Not w/o ending your current sortie at least.
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: Masherbrum on August 09, 2008, 08:58:39 AM
Stop asking for repair, its not gonna happen. Not w/o ending your current sortie at least.


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Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: moot on August 09, 2008, 09:42:28 AM
replane like you stole it.
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: Ghosth on August 09, 2008, 10:13:39 AM
No, its not like your paying extra for planes.

If your damaged grab a new one, or continue to fly the old one and take your chances.
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: Rino on August 09, 2008, 10:39:19 AM
     I say let him replace his guns...then since he doesn't have the time to
zero them..let him fling rounds all over the sky  :D
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: Denholm on August 09, 2008, 10:42:30 AM
I'd have to agree with the old timers. End the sortie and grab a new plane. If this were implemented we would see MANY MORE requests to have the whole plane repaired for some extra time.
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: Bosco123 on August 09, 2008, 11:00:07 AM
agreed, don't fly cannon planes then. :aok
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: VansCrew1 on August 09, 2008, 11:31:23 AM
Stop asking for repair, its not gonna happen. Not w/o ending your current sortie at least.

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Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: titanic3 on August 09, 2008, 12:21:55 PM
 How about a perk price for every damage(s) that you want to be repaired....

Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: VansCrew1 on August 09, 2008, 12:23:36 PM
How about a perk price for every damage(s) that you want to be repaired....



How about hitting ".ef"  then hitting SW, NW,E,W. It's that easy takes 5 sec.
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: Motherland on August 09, 2008, 12:41:21 PM
Can't really replane in FSO.
However, angelsandair, I believe you are underestimating the complication of replacing a gun.
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: angelsandair on August 09, 2008, 03:55:05 PM
Can't really replane in FSO.
However, angelsandair, I believe you are underestimating the complication of replacing a gun.


Yea, but the whole new gun thing I was refferring to was for FSO and snapshots etc. If you wanna go through the trouble to re-arm, you SHOULD get and ONLY get your guns fixed too. Or if your gun is broken, DONT re arm it because it's already destroyed. :)
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: titanic3 on August 09, 2008, 04:12:34 PM
How about hitting ".ef"  then hitting SW, NW,E,W. It's that easy takes 5 sec.

Ya can't do that with a 262 now can ya?
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: Motherland on August 09, 2008, 04:15:27 PM
Umm... yeah you can.... :huh
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: stodd on August 09, 2008, 04:21:14 PM
Ya can't do that with a 262 now can ya?
:huh :confused:.....








 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: mensa180 on August 09, 2008, 04:42:22 PM
I'm confused,  I thought it would be a tedious process to take a gun out of a wing, and put a new one in.
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: Motherland on August 09, 2008, 04:46:18 PM
Even more complicated to replace a cowl gun or, god forbid, a center mounted gun. IIRC replacing the center mounted cannon of the 109 actually required removal of the engine.
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: titanic3 on August 09, 2008, 05:41:20 PM
Umm... yeah you can.... :huh

I'm talking about wasting a whole other bunch of perks... why waste it.. when you can repair your damage..
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: Motherland on August 09, 2008, 05:43:21 PM
How are you wasting perks if you you get them all back when you land? :confused:
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: titanic3 on August 09, 2008, 05:56:41 PM
  The whole point of going on the re-arm pad is to reload your plane... then take off again.. I could've have just landed if I wanted to.
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: stodd on August 09, 2008, 06:36:39 PM
  The whole point of going on the re-arm pad is to reload your plane... then take off again.. I could've have just landed if I wanted to.
:confused: say whut?
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: crazierthanu on August 09, 2008, 07:01:41 PM
  The whole point of going on the re-arm pad is to reload your plane... then take off again.. I could've have just landed if I wanted to.

Then why didnt you?  :huh
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: VansCrew1 on August 09, 2008, 08:33:45 PM
I'm talking about wasting a whole other bunch of perks... why waste it.. when you can repair your damage..

You dont "waste perks" if you land sucessfull.

The whole point of going on the re-arm pad is to reload your plane... then take off again.. I could've have just landed if I wanted to.


The rearm pad is an option to use. Say your ords go down and you had an A20, rearm it. You dont need to rearm it's there for you if you decide if you want to. Or say your VH is dead and you need supplies for ammo, just go to the rearm pad and your ammo will be resupplied.

I dont see the point of rearming a plane and fixing a damage that takes 30sec when you can just tower out and up a new one in 5 seconds.
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: AWwrgwy on August 09, 2008, 11:53:35 PM
Add it and make it take 30 minutes to do so.   How's that for a viable option?


wrngway
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: Ghosth on August 10, 2008, 06:17:27 AM
no  :)

Its this simple, FSO was designed with a single life, to help immersion.
To help people take it seriously, to prevent exactly this kind of gameing the game.

Its real simple, either fly it with the damage or end your sortie and call it a night.

In my opinion, asking for something in the Wishlist so you don't have to end your FSO sortie is beyond infantile.

It is the way it is for very good reasons. It ain't broke, please stop trying to fix it.
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: angelsandair on August 10, 2008, 06:56:06 AM
no  :)

Its this simple, FSO was designed with a single life, to help immersion.
To help people take it seriously, to prevent exactly this kind of gameing the game.

Its real simple, either fly it with the damage or end your sortie and call it a night.

In my opinion, asking for something in the Wishlist so you don't have to end your FSO sortie is beyond infantile.

It is the way it is for very good reasons. It ain't broke, please stop trying to fix it.

yea, but 4 out of 6 guns shot out in FSO makes it hard for you to get that 4th kill :aok (not to mention 2 damn assists :(  )

Could it atleast not re-arm the damaged guns? No point in putting ammo in a damaged gun.
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: Masherbrum on August 10, 2008, 08:34:14 AM
yea, but 4 out of 6 guns shot out in FSO makes it hard for you to get that 4th kill :aok (not to mention 2 damn assists :(  )

Could it atleast not re-arm the damaged guns? No point in putting ammo in a damaged gun.

It's not our fault you have shoddy shot placement.   That is the CRUX of this thread.
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: angelsandair on August 10, 2008, 05:21:04 PM
It's not our fault you have shoddy shot placement.   That is the CRUX of this thread.

Eh, I'm a good shot, just not so good with those deflection shots. (Ki-84s dont light up as easily as a Zeke does, but I still did get 4 kill :rock )
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: SectorNine50 on August 10, 2008, 06:21:31 PM
You know, it would be kind of nice in an FSO to be able to roll into the hanger to get repairs (not the re-arm pad).  I think in FSO's it wouldn't be unreasonable to wait an amount of time to fix wing guns.  I do agree though, cowl or nose guns probably shouldn't be fixable.

Question: Are wing guns really that hard to get out?  Seems like they would design them too.  I feel like I get gun damage all the time! :salute
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: angelsandair on August 10, 2008, 11:24:48 PM
You know, it would be kind of nice in an FSO to be able to roll into the hanger to get repairs (not the re-arm pad).  I think in FSO's it wouldn't be unreasonable to wait an amount of time to fix wing guns.  I do agree though, cowl or nose guns probably shouldn't be fixable.

Question: Are wing guns really that hard to get out?  Seems like they would design them too.  I feel like I get gun damage all the time! :salute

Well, it does still put new ammo in your damaged gun. :lol No point in that.
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: BiPoLaR on August 11, 2008, 04:34:47 AM
NO!!!!! to this idea  :furious
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: FlyGhost on August 11, 2008, 04:41:07 AM
no  :)

Its this simple, FSO was designed with a single life, to help immersion.
To help people take it seriously, to prevent exactly this kind of gameing the game.

Its real simple, either fly it with the damage or end your sortie and call it a night.

In my opinion, asking for something in the Wishlist so you don't have to end your FSO sortie is beyond infantile.

It is the way it is for very good reasons. It ain't broke, please stop trying to fix it.



how is that "beyond infantile"...? FSO usually lasts 1.5 hours. im sure if you actually made the player wait 20 or thirty minutes to replace a wing mounted gun, something that could be done in real life, the player would still have time to get back in the fight.

this is a legit wishlist item.  :salute

Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 11, 2008, 12:40:55 PM
I'm confused,  I thought it would be a tedious process to take a gun out of a wing, and put a new one in.

One would think that if your gun was damaged then there would also be damage to the wing housing the gun and that would need to be replaced or repaired as well.


ack-ack
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: Denholm on August 11, 2008, 01:36:41 PM
Definitely a no-no.
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: trigger2 on August 11, 2008, 09:24:22 PM
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Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: Old Sport on August 11, 2008, 10:33:22 PM
One would think that if your gun was damaged then there would also be damage to the wing housing the gun and that would need to be replaced or repaired as well.

Bingo! Give that man an A&P License!  :aok

I could see being able to change your fuel load on the rearm pad.
"Hey Joe, just give me half a tank!"

I could also see not "reloading" ord, but nevertheless required to leave the racks on the planes.

But damage would necessitate prolonged inspection and repair that would require a lot more time than a quick turn-around that the rearm pad represents.
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: FlyGhost on August 13, 2008, 05:42:25 PM
One would think that if your gun was damaged then there would also be damage to the wing housing the gun and that would need to be replaced or repaired as well.


ack-ack
nothing a hammer couldnt fix.
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 13, 2008, 05:53:10 PM
nothing a hammer couldnt fix.

Yeah, hammers are the best way to fix bullet holes in your wing.


ack-ack
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: FlyGhost on August 13, 2008, 06:04:15 PM
Yeah, hammers are the best way to fix bullet holes in your wing.


ack-ack

a hole in ur wing wont stop you from putting a new gun in. or fixing a jam. people get holes in there wings all the time.

the hammer is to fix dents and pieces sticking out.


 :salute
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 13, 2008, 06:37:38 PM
a hole in ur wing wont stop you from putting a new gun in. or fixing a jam. people get holes in there wings all the time.

the hammer is to fix dents and pieces sticking out.


 :salute

If the hole happens to be larger than what's left of the wing, I think a hammer would not be the only tool needed to fix the gun. 

If you think that a gun that was damaged by gun fire, just removing the gun and replacing it is all that is going to be needed and using a hammer to hammer out any dents or pieces sticking out, I would definitely not want you for a crew chief.


ack-ack
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: FlyGhost on August 14, 2008, 02:31:10 AM
what was the gun damaged by then? :huh


whenever I've had gun damage, the wing is still there...


I'm an aerospace engineer... I'm not just arguing for arguing's sake.


 :salute
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: Ghosth on August 14, 2008, 05:43:11 AM
Yes you are flyghost, whats more you remind me annoyingly of slipknot.

A one life event is just that, a scenario where everyone only has one life.
However if you ask for the ability to repair damage, what does that do to the event?

That plane that you damaged but didn't shoot down is no longer disabled. He can hotpad, fix things up and take back to the skys again. Multiply that times 100 or so people and what has your event become? Its certainly no longer the FSO that I know.

If you take damage, end your sortie, and grab a new plane. If your flying a 1 life event, don't get in front of his guns.
If you did and still made it back safely, count your blessings, you should have been dead!


Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: Ghosth on August 14, 2008, 05:47:10 AM
The graphic showing you your wing may have been there. But that doesn't mean its not damaged.
If a gun takes a 20mm round you can have bent, broken attachment points. You can have a damaged spar, you can have all KINDS of damage to fuel lines, control cables, etc running inside the wings out of sight.

Just because the surface is there does not mean that you can pound out the dings and safely fly that AC again.

Would you really risk your own life for real in a plane that had a gun shot out of its wing?
I wouldn't.


what was the gun damaged by then? :huh


whenever I've had gun damage, the wing is still there...
I'm an aerospace engineer... I'm not just arguing for arguing's sake.


 :salute
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: FlyGhost on August 14, 2008, 06:36:00 AM
 :rofl

woah calm down buddy(you= :furious). no, slipknot posted things about dropping mexicans on towns to lower property value. my posts do not resemble these.




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American P51 Mustang at the 2008 Biggin Hill Air Show. This actual aircraft originally belonged to the 332nd fighter group and bears several battle scars by way of repaired bullet holes in the fuselage. This group became famous as the first all Afro American fighter group - the Tuskegee Airmen, Tuskegee being the town where they trained in Macon County, Alabama.


hey they can fix stuff...

yes i know many planes were scrapped upon landing. but yall just cant let a wishlist item go can you?. even if someone just wishes for it you jump all over them.

im just trying to defend the right actually post items on the wishlist instead of being a No-fun community. lighten up, honestly.


and as far as FSO. ive read many real life accounts of pilots landing damaged aircraft back at their base and upping five minutes later for some payback. even the british who get shot down completely get a ride back to base and go right back up again.
       seeing as this is a video game, where tank turrets become instantly fixed by a wooden box, it actually isn't too much to ask for a fricken machine gun repair. even if it isn't what happenned 100% of the time.
     
 you say that fso would never be the same??? how many people escape the dogfights with only damaged guns? most people just get shot down, wing ripped off, bailing out into hostile ocean territory. now yes, that persons night is over, agreed.
      however, if a pilot is skilled enough to come out of a dogfight with a still combat-worthy plane, which does happen, and makes it back 20 minutes to base. can you throw a dog a bone?seriously, he deserves to get 2 50 cals repaired. its not like we are re attaching wings or something.


Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: ian5440 on August 14, 2008, 10:45:33 PM
woah calm down buddy(you= :furious). no, slipknot posted things about dropping mexicans on towns to lower property value. my posts do not resemble these.

well you have the same pic, im still skeptical...... anyone can pretend to be mature
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: FlyGhost on August 15, 2008, 01:17:18 AM
this is a sample avatar that HTC provides... it was between this and bradd pitt. and i fricken love die hard.


yall really are retarded if you think im slipknot.
Title: Re: When you re-arm, it fixes gun damage.
Post by: ian5440 on August 15, 2008, 01:56:09 AM
yall really are retarded if you think im slipknot.

im so sory sir i aint sure wat i wuz tinkin   :o

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