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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: DREDIOCK on August 10, 2008, 03:01:34 PM
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Ok. Getting on about that time to pick up another part for whats turning out (for economic reasons) to be a long build.
Put it this way.
When I ordered the E8400 $189 a couple of months ago it was considered to be a GREAT buy.
Ok now you know the CPU.
The Motherboard is an already purchased Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3L http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128337
So next on my list is a Hard Drive.
Would love a Raptor but its $200+ price tag makes it cost prohibitive.
Im thinking more around $100 or less. Obviously more is better but 250 gig is fine. In 2 years I didnt even come close to filling up my last 250 gig. So..
I see this MB will also support IDE so thats always an option also. SATA is fine (probably better) but I also have a couple of old hard IDE hard drives I can toss in to put junk on that doesnt HAVE to be accessed fast. (Text documents etc)
OK Bang for buck time?
which is it for the priceline?
And I know size and speed is important. but how about cache size? and all that other good stuff.
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Buy a 7000 rpm SATA as your boot drive. I'd stick with Seagate or WD (I got a 250 Gig Seagate for ~$70). Look for a big cache buffer.
You can throw in your old ATA drives as storage drives. I've got two in my machine (200 & 160 Gig).
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Buy a 7000 rpm SATA as your boot drive. I'd stick with Seagate or WD (I got a 250 Gig Seagate for ~$70). Look for a big cache buffer.
You can throw in your old ATA drives as storage drives. I've got two in my machine (200 & 160 Gig).
Ditto, big Cache.
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As a tech, I replace more Western Digital drives, then any other brand. My first choice would be Seagate, then Maxtor.
Wabbit
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5 year warranties on Seagate drives, I think WD is only 3 at most. Also, a 500gb Segate with a 16mb 7200 RPM runs about $80. A 250gb is $60. So double the disk space for $20 more. You can't have too much space can you? And in 3 years when you could use that extra space, you'll have it with that extra 250gb.
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For me its Raptor or spend real bucks and buy SCSI. Raptor sounds like a real deal once you consider that!
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In the Seagate line of SATA drives, try to stick with the drives whose part number ends with "NS", versus "AS". The AS drives are probably a little quieter, but the NS drives are rated for server use. They are slightly better than the AS drives.
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Seagate 7200.11 SATA drives are what I spec for my own machines. They tend to run cooler and quieter and have a 5 year warranty.
If you have a modern SATA-2 (3GB/S) motherboard, don't forget to remove the little jumper on the drive to enable full speed. It makes a difference.
-Llama
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This is one of those funny area's of a build. Like power supplies a bad choice will cause big problems but a "good" choice can be bad...if that makes any sense.
If I was building right now I'd buy this...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148301 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148301) for $100
With a 32 meg cache & 500G it'll be overkill and its a server grade HD.
Now....the flip side is its big for a gaming build so I'd partition it 4 ways. system/programs/data/acronis image
That will help your seek times on the gaming a bit.
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For me its Raptor or spend real bucks and buy SCSI. Raptor sounds like a real deal once you consider that!
I have three Raptors. Expensive, (but not too expensive) fast, noisy and worth it!
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always wondered why everyone goes for either Western Digital, Seagate, Maxtor ( is it because they the Most publisized in the mainstream stores )
you never see people mention Hitachi............outside of one Raptor drive...........I have always used Hitachi since I had to replace a couple of WD's and at least 4 or 5 Maxtor drives ( all IDE drives of course regarding the WD's and the Maxtors )........
have never had any problems with any Hitachi drives ( 2 IDE 8 SATA I / SATA II types )........
the thing I like about WinXP and Sata is you can quickly hotswap these drives, at least from my experiences.....
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This is one of those funny area's of a build. Like power supplies a bad choice will cause big problems but a "good" choice can be bad...if that makes any sense.
If I was building right now I'd buy this...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148301 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148301) for $100
With a 32 meg cache & 500G it'll be overkill and its a server grade HD.
Now....the flip side is its big for a gaming build so I'd partition it 4 ways. system/programs/data/acronis image
That will help your seek times on the gaming a bit.
After reading Skuzzy's and the rest posts That is exactly the drive I am considering.
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always wondered why everyone goes for either Western Digital, Seagate, Maxtor ( is it because they the Most publisized in the mainstream stores )
you never see people mention Hitachi............outside of one Raptor drive...........I have always used Hitachi since I had to replace a couple of WD's and at least 4 or 5 Maxtor drives ( all IDE drives of course regarding the WD's and the Maxtors )........
have never had any problems with any Hitachi drives ( 2 IDE 8 SATA I / SATA II types )........
the thing I like about WinXP and Sata is you can quickly hotswap these drives, at least from my experiences.....
TC Hitachi is a fine drive as well IMO. The seagate I linked is a pretty special drive with very fast seek time (about half of the hitachi, WD, Maxtor etc), a very high cache 32M (vs 16 or 8) and server grade reliability on mean failure tests (1MM hours MTBF)....for 99 bucks its a steal.
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TC Hitachi is a fine drive as well IMO. The seagate I linked is a pretty special drive with very fast seek time (about half of the hitachi, WD, Maxtor etc), a very high cache 32M (vs 16 or 8) and server grade reliability on mean failure tests (1MM hours MTBF)....for 99 bucks its a steal.
Why couldn't you post that last month when I bought a 16M 500gb Seagate for $80. :P
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Now....the flip side is its big for a gaming build so I'd partition it 4 ways. system/programs/data/acronis image
That will help your seek times on the gaming a bit.
that's sort off what Ive done.i have a 80g and a 400g drives.both sata
i have the 80g as my main drive split in 2 and the 400g drive i use for storage.
i split the 80 gig into 40g partitions and i have winXP on both.
1st partition (C:\) i have as a normal system so I'm not worried about what software i put on this or what processes are running
2nd partition (Q:\) i have purely for gaming and "NOTHING" else is installed on this partition, and processes cut to a minimum.
when you set your system up you might want to think about a similar setup.
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yup I've got 2 x XP+Vista+Linux using Easy BCD 1.7.1 as the bootloader....all of them are backed up to a disk image and I've got a seperate program and Data drive as well. Basically I can reload any or all of them in event of a disaster...
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yup I've got 2 x XP+Vista+Linux using Easy BCD 1.7.1 as the bootloader....all of them are backed up to a disk image and I've got a seperate program and Data drive as well. Basically I can reload any or all of them in event of a disaster...
But what do you do in case of a fire?
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But what do you do in case of a fire?
Where did that kid get the cat claw stuck in his back? Ah Photoshop edit... I see.