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Special Events Forums => Friday Squad Operations => Topic started by: Imoutfishing on August 12, 2008, 01:55:27 AM
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From a special event guy's point of view I submit that we really really need the HE111, G4M, & the TBF. These planes would in fact plug a few holes in the plane set for many FSO Admins.
These planes would make everyones AH life so much less complicated.
MGD
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I can't believe that HiTech has gone this long without adding the HE-111, it's probably the most requested bomber that the game doesn't have, I would have much rather seen that then the B-25, it's not like we didn't already have enough American bombers, but I guess the masses didn't think so.
I say we try to get everyone evolved with FSO, which is over 400, to send HiTech an email requesting it.
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He111 would be sweet. G4M would be also. :)
I would like to see the Emily, that would rock. Heck HTC could swap out the bottom of a PT boat for the bottom of the Ki-67 and that would about do the trick. ;) A float plane in Aces High? :pray :rock :aok
I would not be surprised to see the He111 around the corner. As Trax said it has been requested considerably even by some MA players.
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FWIW we already have the TBF. The TBF is the Grumman original version of the Avenger. General Motors took over manufacture and it got labeled TBM.
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Correct Fencer. Not quite sure why we need another variant of the TBM, unless we get a -1 variant.
I would rather just a have a TBD Devastator and/or SB2C Helldiver.
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:noid http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,219499.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,219499.0.html)
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Correct Fencer. Not quite sure why we need another variant of the TBM, unless we get a -1 variant.
I would rather just a have a TBD Devastator and/or SB2C Helldiver.
The Devastator would be a great addition, but after we fill out the Japanese Army planeset some. :aok
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This FSO would be especially fun with G4Ms.
It seems that those and the HE111 would really help scenraio designers work their magic.
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From a special event guy's point of view I submit that we really really need the HE111, G4M, & the TBF. These planes would in fact plug a few holes in the plane set for many FSO Admins.
These planes would make everyones AH life so much less complicated.
MGD
I agree 100%.
Which is worth almost.......... Nothing.
;)
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FWIW we already have the TBF. The TBF is the Grumman original version of the Avenger. General Motors took over manufacture and it got labeled TBM.
Agreed when General Motor's Easter Division took over the "Devistator or TBF" production they added much more horse power & the nifty rocket rails the "TBM's" enjoy or as we now call it the TBM/TBF combo :) J/K It is the same air frame but hardly the same plane. I do understand that the variant is subject to ones imagination but in general the TBF would not have had the hard points on the wings to carry rockets but the TBF did go the distance. They saw service threw the war & beyond.
The TBM is a mid war plane in real life but my point of this thread was to try to drum up support for an expanded plane set to knock off some of the substitution & judgment calls the CM have to make to provide us with the best package for a great event every time.
Right know they seem to have to scape together plane set's by twisting & molding fact's vs what happened. The you seem to piss off the purist's & when you go as close to possible with the dates that planes were in service you then stoke the balance of the community because on side was whooped.
It's a no win right now and the only fix if it's deemed worthy is fixing the plane set.
MGD
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Agreed when General Motor's Easter Division took over the "Devistator or TBF" production they added much more horse power & the nifty rocket rails the "TBM's" enjoy or as we now call it the TBM/TBF combo :)
The TBD "Devastator" and the TBF/TBM "Avenger" are two different airplanes. You might want to get your facts straight before you go making comments about something you clearly don't understand or know about.
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I agree 100%.
Which is worth almost.......... Nothing.
Not quite true Sled, but I know where you are coming from. Call and chat with Pyro. Tell em what the CM staff would like and what the events community is asking for. It does make a difference. :aok
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Daddog please, stop using common since to help solve problems! Wouldn't it just be much easier to go down to HTC and hold the staff hostage until the make us the planes we want for events?
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Daddog please, stop using common since to help solve problems! Wouldn't it just be much easier to go down to HTC and hold the staff hostage until the make us the planes we want for events?
I agree, that probably would be easier, or at least more fun.
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lol
Or just go directly to Hitech's wish list. Been posted several times over the years.
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The TBD "Devastator" and the TBF/TBM "Avenger" are two different airplanes. You might want to get your facts straight before you go making comments about something you clearly don't understand or know about.
You win. I rushed into that and I did get my facts crossed due to my perceived notions. But the marrage between the TBF & the TBM was short lived after production was shifted. The early war TBF had very little to do with the TBM from the Mid to late war. They are in fact two separate aircraft & it would help plan a more even keel event having both of them on hand.
You can act like an jerk again or you can prove me wrong.
I can take being wrong I'm normally mistaken but not treated like this.
All I was asking for was a more complete plane set to make up for the guessing the CM's are doing now.
MGD
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I have to agree with you there MGD, there's just absolutely no reason to treat someone in that way who is asking a question on here.
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The TBD "Devastator" and the TBF/TBM "Avenger" are two different airplanes. You might want to get your facts straight before you go making comments about something you clearly don't understand or know about.
Bit harsh.
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I agree, that probably would be easier, or at least more fun.
roadtrip!
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I can't believe that HiTech has gone this long without adding the HE-111, it's probably the most requested bomber that the game doesn't have, I would have much rather seen that then the B-25, it's not like we didn't already have enough American bombers, but I guess the masses didn't think so.
I say we try to get everyone evolved with FSO, which is over 400, to send HiTech an email requesting it.
How about a petition on the General Discussion? Could get enough to sign it so it could be added.
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worth while :aok
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Lets just not open it up to a vote on what aircraft to add again, otherwise weight of numbers and national pride mean we'll just end up with increasingly marginal US models.
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Lets just not open it up to a vote on what aircraft to add again, otherwise weight of numbers and national pride mean we'll just end up with increasingly marginal US models.
Agreed. The need is for more obscure yet more revevant aircraft.
I suggest the next vote be limited to the CM board... Those guy's will fill the gap asap. They need some aircraft to fill the bill on many event's.
MGD
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The TBD "Devastator" and the TBF/TBM "Avenger" are two different airplanes. You might want to get your facts straight before you go making comments about something you clearly don't understand or know about.
Wow whats up with that? ^
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Guys, finding data on the He-111 would probably be pretty hard. Considering that the last flying one crashed a few years ago IIRC.
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Guys, finding data on the He-111 would probably be pretty hard. Considering that the last flying one crashed a few years ago IIRC.
:confused:
You think HTC uses flying aircraft to model planes?
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K Quick Q. what is CM??? and i think that it is a good idea for the General Discussion thing
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CM = Campaign Manager.
The guys that design and run Special Events in the SEA (Special Events Arena).
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See Rules #4, #5
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Keep this thread about new AC for FSO, or I can close it.
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Agreed with Sled here. This is a game, it is supposed to be fun, and escape from the stresses of the real world. People can disagree and debate but keep it civil and everyone stop taking personal pokes at each other. I am sure you get enough of that in real life and the last thing you need is more here in a game that is supposed to be fun.
Besides much more fun to talk about planes that we wished we had. Like the Beaufighter.
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Agreed with Sled here. This is a game, it is supposed to be fun, and escape from the stresses of the real world. People can disagree and debate but keep it civil and everyone stop taking personal pokes at each other. I am sure you get enough of that in real life and the last thing you need is more here in a game that is supposed to be fun.
Besides much more fun to talk about planes that we wished we had. Like the Beaufighter.
Sled should have said something to Nef then, his post was uncalled for and arrogant. I know Nef was probably just in a bad mood but Sled comming down on MGD seems to favor the guy that fired the 1st shot.
A simple explaination to MGD about his mistake would have been much more productive.
This is a good exchange of ideas, closing it would be a mistake.
To keep it on topic, the biggest holes in the planeset are early war Jap Army aircraft (Oscar, Nate), Betty, Early war Russian types (Mig, I16, Yak1) Early Italian (SM79 and an early fighter or 2)
The only problem is that these are all types that would get no use in the LW MA which seems to be where the money is.
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Well I am not so sure anymore that the MA is where the money is. FSO is pulling in the mid to hi 400 players every 3 out of 4 Friday nights. That is a lot of people. Plus you do have those people also in AvA and EW (yes I know a few but talking about whole player base). So I think we actually have a decent player bases / portion that now do use planes not used in LW MA.
I agree with you that the early war Japanese and Russian plane set need to be filled out. The Japanese need land base bombers, the inclusion of the Betty would help immensly. Also the Ki-45 would be fun. But the Russian planeset has some massive holes in it which would be nice to see filled.
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All good points GD, now how do we go about getting it done?
I love the FSO's and Scenerios and make every one that I can. To me, its the best that AH has and your right about the numbers, FSO routinely draws 500+ these days.
HT probably already knows that alot of people only maintain accounts for the express reason of participating in these events. I would imagine that we will be getting these planes sometime in the future.
What these posts will do is give the CM's an idea of what the SEA players want so that the CM Team can give HT a wish list of those aircraft that will most enhance the planeset with regard to SEA needs.
At this point the most important IMHO would be the Betty and Oscar. Hope we get them soon.