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Title: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: sethipus on August 12, 2008, 01:37:27 PM
I know we really got some hot conversation going over whether it's appropriate for a squad to be named after the Waffen SS.

I really want to know, given how obviously inappropriate it is, in peoples' eyes, for a Waffen SS squad to exist, how in the hell is there still a Lynchmob squad?

So, what, Waffen SS isn't allowed because some members of the Waffen SS killed jews and performed some atrocities in WWII, but groups of rednecked yahoos stringing up black folk for looking too fondly at a white girl are perfectly fine for a squad name? 
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: XAKL on August 12, 2008, 01:41:46 PM
YES :aok
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: BillyD on August 12, 2008, 01:50:20 PM
hmmm I just never viewed lynchmob in that fashion. Whilst Waffen SS is pretty cut and dried, I always just thought of a mob of cartoon planes ready to beat some azz.(and they do a pretty good job) We have to be careful and not overanalyze every squad name or else it will become PCU and everything will offend everybody. Will Pigs on the Wing be next cause some AH pilots hate Pink Floyd or pork products? Army of Muppets cause you were traumatized by spousal abuse that Ms.Piggy handed out to Kermie....or how much that turtle kid traumatized poor Bipolar? The list goes on and on.

Either way everyone has the personal ability to bring a problem before the HTC grand poobahs and let them handle it. Now lets have some fun and fly with our buddies, get lit up, and lit up a few lil red blips and live our lives.

billyD :salute
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: Captfish on August 12, 2008, 02:01:04 PM
A lynch Mob is not always race related, though often conected with racial crimes and the KKK. In fact the term comes from the revolutionary war, from the term "Lynch's Law" (and subsequently "lynch law" and "lynching") apparently originated during the American Revolution when Charles Lynch, a Virginia justice of the peace, ordered extralegal punishment for Tory acts.

today Lynching in the second degree is defined as "Any act of violence inflicted by a mob upon the body of another person and from which death does not result."


so to answer your question no I dont see the problem with lynchmob, the same way I do with Waffen SS.
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: sethipus on August 12, 2008, 02:13:31 PM
A lynch Mob is not always race related, though often conected with racial crimes and the KKK.
Lynchings have not always been about race, true, but the overwhelming majority of lynchings that are evoked by the term (in the US at least) happen to have been perpetrated against blacks in the South because of their race.  It would be a stretch to say that the very term "lynch" nowadays doesn't automatically evoke thoughts of the KKK and black guys hanging from trees.

And by the same token, not all Waffen SS killed jews or committed war atrocities.  Your logic is very inconsistent.  You're basically saying that since some of the Waffen SS killed jews and committed war crimes, the very term Waffen SS is obviously inappropriate, but because only some of the extralegal mob killings of helpless individuals were perpetrated by whites against blacks for racial reasons, that term is perfectly fine for a squad name in this game.

This is an egregious double standard.

I'm not trying to jumpstart a whole PC crusade (another loaded term, I know) against AHII squad names, but for heaven's sake, given the brouhaha over the Waffen SS squad, it just boggles my mind that people apparently don't bat an eye over Lynchmob.

Personally, I think that Lynchmob is an obscene squad name.
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: MajIssue on August 12, 2008, 02:17:39 PM
I know we really got some hot conversation going over whether it's appropriate for a squad to be named after the Waffen SS.

I really want to know, given how obviously inappropriate it is, in peoples' eyes, for a Waffen SS squad to exist, how in the hell is there still a Lynchmob squad?

So, what, Waffen SS isn't allowed because some members of the Waffen SS killed jews and performed some atrocities in WWII, but groups of rednecked yahoos stringing up black folk for looking too fondly at a white girl are perfectly fine for a squad name? 

You have a valid point... It begs the questions of what is appropriate for a squad name and what is not. Also, are there guidlines published anywhere? And who has the ultimate veto power over squad names?
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: SlapShot on August 12, 2008, 02:35:58 PM
And who has the ultimate veto power over squad names?

Ummmm .. HiTech (thought that would be obvious).

Again ... take this shiznizzle crap to the O' Club.
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: captain1ma on August 12, 2008, 02:51:45 PM
how about the tardwhacker SS?? is that better?

weapons SS?? how about that one?? any better??
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: RedTop on August 12, 2008, 03:12:47 PM
I know we really got some hot conversation going over whether it's appropriate for a squad to be named after the Waffen SS.

I really want to know, given how obviously inappropriate it is, in peoples' eyes, for a Waffen SS squad to exist, how in the hell is there still a Lynchmob squad?

So, what, Waffen SS isn't allowed because some members of the Waffen SS killed jews and performed some atrocities in WWII, but groups of rednecked yahoos stringing up black folk for looking too fondly at a white girl are perfectly fine for a squad name? 

Reach further ..your almost to the edge.
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: Bruv119 on August 12, 2008, 03:23:23 PM
quite ironic this will end up with a lynching  :D
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: LuckyI3 on August 12, 2008, 03:29:10 PM
The Waffen-SS were the armed units of the Schutzstaffel, better known as the SS. The SS were the protective guards of the National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP) - or the "Nazis." Many soldiers in the Waffen-SS distinguished themselves in combat, and in a small number of cases, became notorious for their atrocities. However, these crimes against humanity should not label the entire Waffen-SS as an organization of hate. The vast majority of soldiers were combatants, not criminals.
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: Masherbrum on August 12, 2008, 03:30:43 PM
Lynchings have not always been about race, true, but the overwhelming majority of lynchings that are evoked by the term (in the US at least) happen to have been perpetrated against blacks in the South because of their race.  It would be a stretch to say that the very term "lynch" nowadays doesn't automatically evoke thoughts of the KKK and black guys hanging from trees.

And by the same token, not all Waffen SS killed jews or committed war atrocities.  Your logic is very inconsistent.  You're basically saying that since some of the Waffen SS killed jews and committed war crimes, the very term Waffen SS is obviously inappropriate, but because only some of the extralegal mob killings of helpless individuals were perpetrated by whites against blacks for racial reasons, that term is perfectly fine for a squad name in this game.

This is an egregious double standard.

I'm not trying to jumpstart a whole PC crusade (another loaded term, I know) against AHII squad names, but for heaven's sake, given the brouhaha over the Waffen SS squad, it just boggles my mind that people apparently don't bat an eye over Lynchmob.

Personally, I think that Lynchmob is an obscene squad name.

IIRC, the KKK have hung more whites, than blacks.   

I think your first post is a troll at best.   Get a life.   
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: sirvlad on August 12, 2008, 03:39:53 PM
Why does anyone even care about a stupid squad name.We are all adults if it offends you then get over it. They are just words from people you most likely will never even meet.I like to get rid of things that offend me,for example all the mexicans invading my community and taking jobs from teenagers,but hey what can i do about it.Nothing so get over it right.Call me what you want but atleast i got the balls to say it. Now go on  tear into me,i like reading other points of view between flights.
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: CAP1 on August 12, 2008, 04:05:44 PM
I know we really got some hot conversation going over whether it's appropriate for a squad to be named after the Waffen SS.

I really want to know, given how obviously inappropriate it is, in peoples' eyes, for a Waffen SS squad to exist, how in the hell is there still a Lynchmob squad?

So, what, Waffen SS isn't allowed because some members of the Waffen SS killed jews and performed some atrocities in WWII, but groups of rednecked yahoos stringing up black folk for looking too fondly at a white girl are perfectly fine for a squad name? 

when i think of lynchmobs, i kind of think of the old west......where lynchmobs went after criminals that the law couldn't seem to find(for whatever reason), so to me, lynchmob isn't really offensive.
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: CAP1 on August 12, 2008, 04:07:49 PM
almost forgot...........















INNERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: CAP1 on August 12, 2008, 04:10:28 PM
Why does anyone even care about a stupid squad name.We are all adults if it offends you then get over it. They are just words from people you most likely will never even meet.I like to get rid of things that offend me,for example all the mexicans invading my community and taking jobs from teenagers,but hey what can i do about it.Nothing so get over it right.Call me what you want but atleast i got the balls to say it. Now go on  tear into me,i like reading other points of view between flights.

THEY CAN'T GET OVER IT.


they're the new breed of sissified adults. they feel that if anything whatsoever offends them, then they can complain till it gets changed. they're a very very large part of what's wrong with this country.
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: smokey23 on August 12, 2008, 04:28:30 PM
Here we go again this was brought up in previous threads, The name **THE LYNCHMOB** has nothing to do with the insanity of those in the not to distant past and racism. I will explain it one more time: Before i formed the squad i was reading a book by author Louis lemore who wrote about the old west he reffered on many occasions to a group of towns people who felt the corruption of the local law as being not in there best interest so they took matters into their own hands.They formed what was called " the vigilance comittee" who would break into the local jail drag the accused cattle theif , horsethief, or murderer out into the streets and hang him. They were refered to as a "Lynchmob". thats where our squad name came from no racism no animosity twords any ethnic group at all. <S>

I really hope this will put this subject to rest.......im not holdin my breathe though
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: CAP1 on August 12, 2008, 04:32:30 PM
Here we go again this was brought up in previous threads, The name **THE LYNCHMOB** has nothing to do with the insanity of those in the not to distant past and racism. I will explain it one more time: Before i formed the squad i was reading a book by author Louis lemore who wrote about the old west he reffered on many occasions to a group of towns people who felt the corruption of the local law as being not in there best interest so they took matters into their own hands.They formed what was called " the vigilance comittee" who would break into the local jail drag the accused cattle theif , horsethief, or murderer out into the streets and hang him. They were refered to as a "Lynchmob". thats where our squad name came from no racism no animosity twords any ethnic group at all. <S>

I really hope this will put this subject to rest.......im not holdin my breathe though

dude....you don't need to defend yourself..........you picked a name you liked for your squad. if someone is offended by it, that's their problem, not yours.
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: smokey23 on August 12, 2008, 04:37:14 PM
Thanks CAP1 i appreciate the support, I just figured the original thread poster may not have been here when this subject was brought up before. I expect someone not knowing the origin of the name may have concerns.
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: JAGED on August 12, 2008, 04:39:47 PM
Lynchmob Rules! Oh wait... I thought you were talking about George Lynch's metal band...

</Emily Latella/> Oh, that's different... Never mind... </end Emily Latella/>
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: CAP1 on August 12, 2008, 04:43:40 PM
Thanks CAP1 i appreciate the support, I just figured the original thread poster may not have been here when this subject was brought up before. I expect someone not knowing the origin of the name may have concerns.

ya, i guess you have a point there.

i just don't understand why if someone's name opffends someone here, can they not go somewhere else? i'm a stubborn bastage, and i simply leave. there's plenty of arenas, and with the big maps they may not even need to leave the arenas.

 and again...it's only words. words for the most part canonly hurt or offend you IF you let them.

i', sure someone could find fault with the hired guns if they wanted to.  :noid :aok
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: RedTop on August 12, 2008, 04:59:06 PM
Thanks CAP1 i appreciate the support, I just figured the original thread poster may not have been here when this subject was brought up before. I expect someone not knowing the origin of the name may have concerns.

It wasn't about your squad name really...just a goofball looking for a internet fight and being difficult. No need to even worry with it...he was prolly one of the Waffen SS dweebs and just being pissy.
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: bustr on August 12, 2008, 05:01:48 PM
CAP1,

Last I checked this whole conversation says we live in the USA.

We should thank God HTC isn't required by law to report improper squad names and player names to a government department of human rights. If the servers were based in Canada, England or the EU; HTC could be reported for allowing squad names that create a hostile or offensive environment. I'm surprised some EU sqweekers mother hasen't filed a complaint yet. Let alone if a player accidently uses an aribic name that makes fun of that man who married a 9 year old girl in the 700's and told his followers it was ok to murder and steal from non-followers in the name of his moon god stone at Madina.
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: crockett on August 12, 2008, 05:17:44 PM
dude....you don't need to defend yourself..........you picked a name you liked for your squad. if someone is offended by it, that's their problem, not yours.

I think the guy that started this topic is using Lynchmob as a example case. People are quick to defend in the case of Lynchmob but then there were others who cried about the Waffen SS name. So I think he's trying to say it's the same thing but he's not "really" complaining about the name Lynchmob just using it as example.

Personally I think it's silly to not allow swastikas and complain because someone uses a name related to the Nazi's. The way I look at it, it's part of history and if nothing else not pretending it didn't exist allows us to not forget what happened.

In short where does it end? What if their are German players who might have had family killed by some American or British squad and then we have players flying under that squad name? Do we then make those squads change their names?
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: bustr on August 12, 2008, 05:54:47 PM
I'm betting on HiTech and company being the experienced professionals whom they are along with the excellent legal council they have on retainer supporting them.

Our best cource is to trust HiTech and the process in place for airing these concerns and get back to playing the game. This forum has too much potential for comrads saying things not in context with the spirit of our mutual enjoyment.

Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: zoozoo on August 12, 2008, 05:57:49 PM
agreed




IN
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: sethipus on August 12, 2008, 06:05:06 PM
Thanks CAP1 i appreciate the support, I just figured the original thread poster may not have been here when this subject was brought up before. I expect someone not knowing the origin of the name may have concerns.
I was actually not one of those who declared that Waffen SS should be banned as a squad name.  I only pointed out that if Waffen SS is going to be banned for its racist connotations, then Lynchmob certainly qualifies on that score.  Sure, some cattle rustlers may have been lynched by townspeople in the wild west, but don't even try to tell me that the major connotation that 99.9% of Americans would read into that word, stated with no other context, is anything other than that of hooded white guys stringing up a black guy from a tree.

To disallow Waffen SS and allow The Lynchmob is hypocrisy, pure and simple.

Oh, and one more thing.  Ok, so you agree that it's wrong for a mob to hang a black guy out of racism, but it's just A-OK for a mob of citizens to pull a guy out of jail and hang him in the street?  Huh?  Since when is America about vigilante justice and extrajudicial killings?  If you think Lynchmob is ok as a squad name because not all of the lynchings were of black people, you should think again.  Nothing about lynching was good, whether it was black guys, cattle rustlers, Tories, or whoever else.
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: RedTop on August 12, 2008, 06:14:46 PM
I was actually not one of those who declared that Waffen SS should be banned as a squad name.  I only pointed out that if Waffen SS is going to be banned for its racist connotations, then Lynchmob certainly qualifies on that score.  Sure, some cattle rustlers may have been lynched by townspeople in the wild west, but don't even try to tell me that the major connotation that 99.9% of Americans would read into that word, stated with no other context, is anything other than that of hooded white guys stringing up a black guy from a tree.

To disallow Waffen SS and allow The Lynchmob is hypocrisy, pure and simple.

Oh, and one more thing.  Ok, so you agree that it's wrong for a mob to hang a black guy out of racism, but it's just A-OK for a mob of citizens to pull a guy out of jail and hang him in the street?  Huh?  Since when is America about vigilante justice and extrajudicial killings?  If you think Lynchmob is ok as a squad name because not all of the lynchings were of black people, you should think again.  Nothing about lynching was good, whether it was black guys, cattle rustlers, Tories, or whoever else.

You are just looking for an argument....this is another O'Club topic.
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: Ghastly on August 12, 2008, 06:24:08 PM
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Before i formed the squad i was reading a book by author Louis lemore who wrote about the old west

You don't mean Louis L'Amour, do you?

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Personally I think it's silly to not allow swastikas and complain because someone uses a name related to the Nazi's. The way I look at it, it's part of history and if nothing else not pretending it didn't exist allows us to not forget what happened.

HTC's failure to limit anything that could be construed as edit-> glorification <- of the Nazi regime would make the playing of the game illegal for residents of at least one (and maybe several?) European countries.  So above and beyond and more important than the issue of being politically correct is a legal issue - at least for the players in those countries.  And yes, that's important. 

For what my opinion is worth, arguing that the word "lynch" conjures up any automatic racial connotation is a real stretch, at least in any part of the country I've lived in, including some of the more Southern states. The initials "KKK" on the other hand... regardless of how indiscriminate they may have been with their slaughter. 

And yes, IMO this thread is little more than an obvious attempt at an argument.

<S>
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 12, 2008, 06:27:52 PM
I was actually not one of those who declared that Waffen SS should be banned as a squad name.  I only pointed out that if Waffen SS is going to be banned for its racist connotations, then Lynchmob certainly qualifies on that score.  Sure, some cattle rustlers may have been lynched by townspeople in the wild west, but don't even try to tell me that the major connotation that 99.9% of Americans would read into that word, stated with no other context, is anything other than that of hooded white guys stringing up a black guy from a tree.



Lynch mobs in the United States
 
Lynching, as a form of punishment for presumed criminal offenses, performed by self-appointed commissions, mobs, or vigilantes without due process of law took place in the United States before the American Civil War and after across the nation, from southern states to western frontier settlements.

I see nothing racial in the definition like you implied.

ack-ack
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: Arty on August 12, 2008, 06:29:21 PM
I was actually not one of those who declared that Waffen SS should be banned as a squad name.  I only pointed out that if Waffen SS is going to be banned for its racist connotations, then Lynchmob certainly qualifies on that score.  Sure, some cattle rustlers may have been lynched by townspeople in the wild west, but don't even try to tell me that the major connotation that 99.9% of Americans would read into that word, stated with no other context, is anything other than that of hooded white guys stringing up a black guy from a tree.



Actually, I am thinking your wrong on this point. It might be more of a regional thing, when I asked my co-workers today what they thought of when they heard the word "lynchmob" everyone thought of the old west. Just my 2 cents on the subject.

As for the SS name, I could care aless. Maybe they are just a big fan of old time muscle cars. Its a game, enjoy it, if you don't, play scrabble.

Arty

(edited to add a comma)
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: TwentyFo on August 12, 2008, 06:34:09 PM
I was actually not one of those who declared that Waffen SS should be banned as a squad name.  I only pointed out that if Waffen SS is going to be banned for its racist connotations, then Lynchmob certainly qualifies on that score.  Sure, some cattle rustlers may have been lynched by townspeople in the wild west, but don't even try to tell me that the major connotation that 99.9% of Americans would read into that word, stated with no other context, is anything other than that of hooded white guys stringing up a black guy from a tree.

To disallow Waffen SS and allow The Lynchmob is hypocrisy, pure and simple.

Oh, and one more thing.  Ok, so you agree that it's wrong for a mob to hang a black guy out of racism, but it's just A-OK for a mob of citizens to pull a guy out of jail and hang him in the street?  Huh?  Since when is America about vigilante justice and extrajudicial killings?  If you think Lynchmob is ok as a squad name because not all of the lynchings were of black people, you should think again.  Nothing about lynching was good, whether it was black guys, cattle rustlers, Tories, or whoever else.

Why do you have to bring our squad into this? Smokey explained why the name was chosen. What more do you want? We have been a very upstanding squad for the 2+ years we have been in existance. What do you expect to get out of this?
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: Masherbrum on August 12, 2008, 07:14:11 PM
Why does anyone even care about a stupid squad name.We are all adults if it offends you then get over it. They are just words from people you most likely will never even meet.I like to get rid of things that offend me,for example all the mexicans invading my community and taking jobs from teenagers,but hey what can i do about it.Nothing so get over it right.Call me what you want but atleast i got the balls to say it. Now go on  tear into me,i like reading other points of view between flights.

You cared enough to post about it.   
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: oTRALFZo on August 12, 2008, 07:33:01 PM
I have to admit...My squaddies and I are guilty of discrimination and do exercise in prejudice. We dont like red guys..we do however like the green guys. We discriminate by attacking the low icons rather than the high alt ones. and yes..we cant stand some nations..especially the rook and knit ones when we fly for bish. Redneck yahoos?..anyone ever hear of redneck yahoos that have a European division?Personally, I wouldnt take offense to some squad's name even if was Waffen SS. Chances are it is probably some ignorant squeeker who doesnt know any better. I would bet that squad wouldnt even last a week if noone payed any attention to it. Giving it any sort of attention would open new doors and then invite people to join just for the shock factor. Bottom line is folks..We are here to fly and pay our money to do it. We shouldnt be bothered by how people present themselves in here unless it does affect your fun here. Let Hitech worry about any legal issues pertaining to the subject because you know..they are the ones that have to deal with it and will deal with it if it becomes a problem.
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: Mighty01 on August 12, 2008, 07:43:20 PM
I was actually not one of those who declared that Waffen SS should be banned as a squad name.  I only pointed out that if Waffen SS is going to be banned for its racist connotations, then Lynchmob certainly qualifies on that score.  Sure, some cattle rustlers may have been lynched by townspeople in the wild west, but don't even try to tell me that the major connotation that 99.9% of Americans would read into that word, stated with no other context, is anything other than that of hooded white guys stringing up a black guy from a tree.

To disallow Waffen SS and allow The Lynchmob is hypocrisy, pure and simple.

Oh, and one more thing.  Ok, so you agree that it's wrong for a mob to hang a black guy out of racism, but it's just A-OK for a mob of citizens to pull a guy out of jail and hang him in the street?  Huh?  Since when is America about vigilante justice and extrajudicial killings?  If you think Lynchmob is ok as a squad name because not all of the lynchings were of black people, you should think again.  Nothing about lynching was good, whether it was black guys, cattle rustlers, Tories, or whoever else.

let me guess!

you are an emotionally stricken Black individual who must harp on something that has long since past, and think that this  Forum that is a priviledge given to the community to communicate, is a place to speak out about how something that is not even thought of by 99.9% of all people in the USA do not even think about these days, is somehow making you emotionally distressed and you think you must speak up for your rights and compare 2 completely different meanings, to show how ignorant you actually are.! damn looks like a bullseye to me with that arrow                   image of how sethipus is acting in this thread = --->  :cry


The Mighty01
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: thndregg on August 12, 2008, 07:53:11 PM
I didn't bother to read all the drivel, but I <S> the Lynchmob for the members in that squad as it pertains to Aces High. I know the definition of what a real-life lynchmob is, and I'm mature enough to overlook it. Don't let the politically correct turkeys bring you down, guys... You're a stand-up bunch. <S>
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: SNIPER30 on August 12, 2008, 10:37:11 PM
I know we really got some hot conversation going over whether it's appropriate for a squad to be named after the Waffen SS.

I really want to know, given how obviously inappropriate it is, in peoples' eyes, for a Waffen SS squad to exist, how in the hell is there still a Lynchmob squad?

So, what, Waffen SS isn't allowed because some members of the Waffen SS killed jews and performed some atrocities in WWII, but groups of rednecked yahoos stringing up black folk for looking too fondly at a white girl are perfectly fine for a squad name? 

i don't remember the world trying lynchmobers for genocide,all in all i don't care what name a squad has like it or leave it.HOWEVER i don't like someone trying to bash my squads name on the bbs,we strive hard to be upstanding in the community :D we do not discriminate against anyone so go troll elsewhere!Also i find it offencive about your use of redneck ,maybe you should come to the hills the trees are real pretty in the fall.


SNIPER30
CO-XO ***LYNCHMOB***





oh and by the way IN
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: smokey23 on August 12, 2008, 11:13:09 PM
Yes Ghastly i was in a hurry was gonna be late for work so i was typimg way to fast an my fingers outran my brain i did in fact meen Louis L'Amour

note to self :"use spellcheck"

Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: lyric1 on August 12, 2008, 11:15:10 PM
CAP1,

Last I checked this whole conversation says we live in the USA.

We should thank God HTC isn't required by law to report improper squad names and player names to a government department of human rights. If the servers were based in Canada, England or the EU; HTC could be reported for allowing squad names that create a hostile or offensive environment. I'm surprised some EU sqweekers mother hasen't filed a complaint yet. Let alone if a player accidently uses an aribic name that makes fun of that man who married a 9 year old girl in the 700's and told his followers it was ok to murder and steal from non-followers in the name of his moon god stone at Madina.
Well I think some of your comment's are a little short sighted & yes this a game that is based out of the USA with for the most part American players. Since the game is on the internet & is subject to rules & regulations based off what other countries allow, there are things AH11 have to watch out for to be permitted to be used in other country's. Why are there no swastikas on the German planes? because they are banned in Germany so if we were to have them Germany would not have AH11 & there for a source of revenue is gone for Hitech.
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: oTRALFZo on August 13, 2008, 06:30:11 AM
Well I think some of your comment's are a little short sighted & yes this a game that is based out of the USA with for the most part American players. Since the game is on the internet & is subject to rules & regulations based off what other countries allow, there are things AH11 have to watch out for to be permitted to be used in other country's. Why are there no swastikas on the German planes? because they are banned in Germany so if we were to have them Germany would not have AH11 & there for a source of revenue is gone for Hitech.

That would also mean that all bomber formations would be flying safe over enemy feilds because we wouldnt have Snailman (aka Lucshe) to contend with
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: angelsandair on August 13, 2008, 06:36:08 AM
So, what, Waffen SS isn't allowed because some members of the Waffen SS killed jews and performed some atrocities in WWII, but groups of rednecked yahoos stringing up black folk for looking too fondly at a white girl are perfectly fine for a squad name? 

Obviously idiots like you dont know the Arena very well. The Lychmob is a respectable squad with great players/people in it. I wonder what Smokey23 has to say about this?

I hope this thread is locked and you are banned. Dont bring this up here, dont bring it up.



Edit: Next thing you know, my squad's nick name the 'Fight'n Red Devils' is going to be offensive because it refers to the devil. He will probably assume all 16 or 17 of us are devil worshipers.... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: oTRALFZo on August 13, 2008, 06:48:48 AM
Smokey did reply Angel. about 1 page back. From what he said when I spoke to him about it is that this was brought up a looooooong time ago and we thought we had it resolved. To our squad, its not an issue NOR will be an issue until HTC lets us know. We wont change our name just because that 1 in a 1000 guy thinks it has a racist meaning to it. If that were the case, then there would be no squads name because if that were the case, the door would be open and it would never end. Soon theres gonna be some guy in the future saying " why is your squad named after a historical WW2 bomber squadron?..My grandparents were bombed by them and I'm highly offended". The list goes on and on.
I wouldn't get that heated and request someone being banned either for stating their opinion here either..no matter how absurd it may seem, it is THEIR views on things and everyone is never on the same page
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: angelsandair on August 13, 2008, 06:51:23 AM
Yea, but I think this guy is doing it just to be an Arse Hole. Nothing else. It's obvious he hasn't been playing more than a month to be putting this up here.
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: oTRALFZo on August 13, 2008, 07:05:23 AM
stunninghunk, maybe. I take comfort in knowing that a great percentage of players that post on here have very subjective and intellegent views of things. When someone posts a thread purely for the shock value, it always ends up that they kill themselves out of ingornace.
Does anyone in here actually think the AKs are an all Arabic squad? I dont know..I dont care. All I know is that they are a pain in the arse to fight against and their squad name does nothing to affect the AH community.
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: oTRALFZo on August 13, 2008, 07:07:03 AM
See Rule #7
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: Anaxogoras on August 13, 2008, 07:47:20 AM
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The Lychmob is a respectable squad with great players/people in it.
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I <S> the Lynchmob for the members in that squad as it pertains to Aces High.
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We have been a very upstanding squad for the 2+ years we have been in existence. What do you expect to get out of this?

So everyone who said Waffen SS was an inappropriate squad name would change their mind if they knew people in the squad were respectable members of the AH community? :huh

Clearly, the members of a squad are no criterion for the appropriateness of its name.  That said, there are other reasons for why Lynch Mob is an acceptable name for a squad and Waffen SS is not.
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: Stampf on August 13, 2008, 07:51:15 AM
So everyone who said Waffen SS was an inappropriate squad name would change their mind if they knew people in the squad were respectable members of the AH community? :huh

Clearly, the members of a squad are no criterion for the appropriateness of its name.  That said, there are other reasons for why Lynch Mob is an acceptable name for a squad and Waffen SS is not.

Possibly just some old Dokken fans.  :aok  :rock
Title: Re: Waffen SS versus Lynchmob
Post by: Anaxogoras on August 13, 2008, 07:58:26 AM
 :rofl

What the Lynch Mob of Aces High actually looks like:
(http://www.discografiarock.info/imgfiles/4/image/1179071181_dokken.jpg)