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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: hinerman on June 29, 2000, 10:06:00 PM
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Well, they finally ruined my day. I was rah1172,doobie,reaper,LoTech,Guderian,and a few i cant remember. I guess i am a robber and a burglar eh RAM. Well I bled the system for all it was worth and it finally bled dry. Just wanted to say how much fun I had playing with all of you and I wanted to thank one person in particular for the help which he gave me, Dingy, taught me how wonderful the N1k is and a few other things.
Zigrat, I had a friggin blast on yer missions. Titanium, yer a good bloke, cave, keep up the good work, and any others i may have failed to mention. Oh, i was also booger666. I'm sure there were others also. Anyway, my misery is beyond comprehension. Hopefully the old battle axe will agree to my spending $30 a month on a game! Not bad when you concider how much cigarettes cost nowadays. (AH is alot better for yer health too) The only person that I have encounted on this game that I think poorly of (and beleive me this was the case before he blew off at the mouth about free accounts) is RAM. I dont know what kind of a person he is in real life, but every time I encountered him in the training arena or the main arena (as an opponent...i would never fight for his side) I was dissappointed in his social skills LOL. Oh well, im a jerk sometimes too.....but, this all really comes down to this:
You folks are a blast to chat with and kill. BTW Guderian was pretty good for a dweeb. I had some good times playing this game, and when my ball and chain gives the green light, i hope to join you all legitimately and become a part of your community.
P.S: The Hemp Liberators will return !
FREE THE HEMP ! ! !
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Doobie the liberator of hemp
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Originally posted by hinerman:
I guess i am a robber and a burglar eh RAM.
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IMHO, yes, sir. I pay 30$ a month for AH and I have few money. If you cant afford AH why did you flew it?...but nah I wont insist on this.
The only person that I have encounted on this game that I think poorly of (and beleive me this was the case before he blew off at the mouth about free accounts) is RAM. I dont know what kind of a person he is in real life, but every time I encountered him in the training arena or the main arena (as an opponent...i would never fight for his side) I was dissappointed in his social skills LOL.
Not that I give a ratz prettythang about what you think about me...but for the record I'll say that you played in my side at least some time in the MA (In knitland). I dont remember when did I encounter you in TA, and I dont know why do you say that about me,as, As far as I can remember, I never have talked to you...but I can bring here some "few" people who I tried to help both in TA and MA, even to the point to dont go to sleep one night and cut streak kill nights to help them. So I guess(and hope)that your anthipaty is not shared by the community.
Anyway, sir, think whatever you want about me. This whinin` poor fella wont lose too much sleep tonight because this post (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Hope to see you here again (paying,for a change, please). Bye.
[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 06-29-2000).]
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That is a beautiful example...... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
WTG RAM
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im sorry ram...on second thought...you are a wonderful person...and I want to extend my heartfelt apology to you personally. I am sorry i played for free...please forgive me...i bet HTC will when they get my money LOL.
P.S. I hope you accept this apology, and to all the rest of the community, im sorry for playing for free. I guess i am just a robber and a burglar...LOL
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Don't worry RAM. We all love.....to kill ya (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
Hehehehehe, maybe would be better to use the conditional "would love".
For the record, I'm also against the Fly for Free Forever type of guy.
Cheers,
Pepino.
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hinerman
I hope your employer decide you must work for free for three months.
And then say "Guess I am a robber, sorry".
Your lack of social conscience is rather disturbing, and only equalled by the egoism you display and maybe absence guts and straighforwardness.
You might be a very nice person in real life, I dunno, but here and now, to me, you're just another freeloader. One of the unresponsible people who force the responsible to take on greater responsibility, in this case in the form of picking up your AH bill.
Sorry to sound so harsh, but this is how I see it. Not that you give a rats ass, this message is more for the other freeloaders out there than you.
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StSanta
II/JG2
(http://saintaw.tripod.com/santa.gif)
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Originally posted by hinerman:
That is a beautiful example......
An Example...of WHAT? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
StSanta....<S!>. I could never had said it better than that.
Pepino...so you love shooting me down? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) ok I'll let you shoot at me someday in the TA so you can "feel the love" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)(just kiddin you are a very competent pilot)
Y no me hagas ni caso...si no me has dao por rasca mas veces es porque no nos hemos encontrado mucho en la MA (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Los del 101 sois todos fantasticos pilotos!. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 06-30-2000).]
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Hinerman. Please mow my lawn every two weeks for the next six months free.
-Westy
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Well, they finally ruined my day. I was rah1172,doobie,reaper,LoTech,Guderian,and a few i cant remember. I guess i am a robber and a burglar eh RAM. Well I bled the system for all it was worth and it finally bled dry.
I didn't have to read further than this (though I did). You may not like RAM's approach, but his heart is in the right place. That "system" you are referring to is 6 employees with families.
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First of all, I would love to know how free accounts took money out of any other paying players pocket. The only people who lost money on this were HTC. I believe they knew what was going on and allowed it to continue because of the possibility that the free-riders (myself included) would eventually become paying customers. They knew what would happen (IMO) when they created a two week trial with no credit card information. I bet keeping player numbers up in the arena also had some influence on this. Lets face it, people have been doing this from day one. It was only when certain players started whining and bellyacheing that something was done to stop it. I am sure that many of the free-loaders will now become paying customers. This will be good for HTC and for you bunch of pilots. You know you love to shoot down newbies. As for SPAM or CLAM or whatever his name is, I am not the only one who has noticed his abrasive personality, and the whining on channel 1 is also known, but that is okay, I am a whiner too.
I came clean, I put my butt on the line by telling the truth in these posts. I am sorry if the truth sometimes hurts. HTC knew about the free accounts, and they let it slide. Why not ask them why they did this. Instead of directing all of your anger towards me, why dont you ask them why they allowed it to go on and on for months without taking measures to end the abuse (so to speak). After all, you are the paying customers, you have a right to know why your $30 per month had to be paid, and others were allowed to slide. Maybe because HTC also knows that it is impossible to really enjoy this game for free. I love the flying, but I made some friends (at least i thought it did) and every two weeks, it starts all over. I wanted to be a part of the community, and maybe join a squadron, but that was not possible as a free-loader. I think anyone playing would eventually want to go legitimate after a while. If not, then they made good fodder. BTW I was Fodder also. What really hurts is when the dweeb starts shooting down the fellow who pays $30 a month. That hurts bad dont it? LOL
(sorry for rambling...)
StSanta wrote:
You might be a very nice person in real life, I dunno, but here and now, to me, you're just another freeloader. One of the unresponsible people who force the responsible to take on greater responsibility, in this case in the form of picking up your AH bill.
Please mister clause, explain to me how you paid my bill......and btw, my socially responsible father and grandfather helped defend Europe. So lets talk about being responsible...how about being responsible for the defense of your own people...how about paying the bill to defend your own people. The american taxpayer has been forking out money to defend other countries for years, so before you point a finger, step back and think about RESPONSIBILITY!!
I mean, i hate to be nasty, but damn. I give what i get. I gave HAM what he gave me. I hope you realize what you have done. You have vented on poor old me. All i did was exploit the system a little bit (im sure you never did that in any way.) LOL
And keep this in mind. I am one of MANY who have done the same thing, and I'd bet that a big chunk of the paying customers have had more than one free account. (not to mention the spies)
So send me your hate mail, vent the frustrations of yer miserable lives on me, and do what you want. I think it is amusing that adults could get so pissed off over this.
IT IS ONLY MONEY ! ! !
keep that in mind the next time you freak out on someone for being honest. I guess I should have kept my mouth shut. I should have just pretended that it never happened. Oh well, I felt guilty and wanted to clear my concious. That was a mistake, because the vultures were waiting for me. (they always are!)
God Bless all of you....
I guess sometimes honesty is not the best policy!
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Doobie the liberator of hemp
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Hinerman=Torquila MkII.
Read my posts to Torquila, they all are applicable to you.
For me this thread is closed I wont post here anymore.
Have a nice day! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Hinerman,
Don't be surprised if some people don't appreciate your honesty. A lot of us respect "the system" that you seem to have enjoyed bleeding. We know them as fellow players and nice people.
Though it's nice of you to salute the players who have made the game fun for you, you have also insulted those same players by freeloading while they foot the bill for your fun.
You're gonna get some heat, shut up and take it like a man. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
popeye
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Originally posted by RAM:
Los del 101 sois todos fantasticos pilotos!. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 06-30-2000).]
No nos hagas la pelota RAM, no te servirá de nada, también somos inmunes a los ajos. Sólo podrás salvarte si vemos tu icono "verde" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Te den dos duros (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
S! petardo (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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IT IS ONLY MONEY ! ! !
Then how about coughing some up? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Being honest about being dishonest... I don't think that is why there is a problem. It is that you gloated about "bleeding the system for all it's worth" and "they ruined your day".
I'm with Popeye here.
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Well, where there is a loophole, some jerks will always expose the weakness of the loophole.
This guy reminds me of the person that gets rear ended in a car accident ever so slightly, then grabs their neck in percieved pain and says "Im going to sue!", when actually their not really injured. They 'work' the system, thus costing everyone else thousands of dollars in hiked rates. Comparison to AH? Yes, if HTC had 2000 free account users and 10 paying customers, they would have to hike the rates to afford to stay in business. Though we're not anywhere close to that exaggerated number for free accounts, you get the meaning of my message.
I say to you, sir, good riddence, and please don't come back even if you ARE ready to pay, you certainly won't get any respect from me nor my 53-member squad. Now shoo! Go away and give your mom and dad back their PC.
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Ripsnort(-rip1-)
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I bow all heads and break all hearts,
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No need for apologies Hinerman. You listed 5 free account handles above. The first one was free, the other 4, at 2 weeks each, add up to 2 months at $30 per month, or $60. Send $60 to HTC and all is forgotten. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Ironic, isn't it? He'd "bleed" a community he wishes to join.
Ronni
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Veronica "Ronni" Newman
Sr. Programmer/Webmaster
HiTech Creations, Inc.
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You know what....you can all go diddly yourselves. Stick it up yer bellybutton RONNI...And to the rest of you..
Kiss my white american ass......
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I'd like a way to identify 2-weeks trial players in the arena. Some kind of character added to their game ID maybe? Like "reaper*". Not necessarily on the icon, but in the Roster for example.
I'd sure like to know how many players play for free.
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DrSoya
308 (Polish) Squadron "City of Cracow" RAF [AH]
315 (Polish) Squadron "City of Deblin" RAF [WB]
Part of the Northolt Wing (http://www.raf303.org/northolt) (First Polish Fighter Wing)
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Hmmm, methinks an IP trace is in order.
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Apache
The Blue Knights
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Apache, good thought! Most forget their IP can be traced, then Ronni could send them a letter asking them to drop him as a customer!
Or better yet, publish their emails so we can spam the heck outta them! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Though he'd have an easy time getting a new ISP. Oh well, I'm a true believer in 'what comes around, goes around..' MapleII, Torquila, this joker, they'll all get 'theirs' in due time.
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Originally posted by hinerman:
You know what....you can all go f%@# yourselves. Stick it up yer prettythang RONNI...And to the rest of you..
Kiss my white american ass......
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Theres your ammo for IP trace and FCC report. Believe me, you can get someone in alot of trouble when you report this to the FCC.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort:
Theres your ammo for IP trace and FCC report. Believe me, you can get someone in alot of trouble when you report this to the FCC.
Yep. In some states, the use of language such as used in hinermans' last post is a violation of state law, punishable by fine and/or imprisonment. I would be willing to bet, a violation of federal law as well.
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Originally posted by RAM:
Te den dos duros (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
S! petardo (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Sorry off topic, but...
RAM, cuidado con lo que dices, ESE petardo en tu.... tu..... dejémoslo en tus SEIS, puede ser..hmmmm....¿Desagradable? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
HEHEHEHE
Pepino
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Originally posted by hinerman:
You know what....you can all go diddly yourselves. Stick it up yer bellybutton RONNI...And to the rest of you..
Kiss my white american ass......
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Now On Topic:
Now we all know what other qualifications you add to burglar and the like...
Pepino
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More ignorant comments from a thief.
I guess your mother didn't teach you how to communicate properly because she sure didn't teach you anything about morals. Surely a sign of sub-par intelligence.
You mention your father and grandfather helped defend Europe. Obviously honor is not a genetic trait.
I guess this is what we have to deal with when school lets out for summer vacation. So much time, so little intelligence.
BTW Hinerman, lay off the Hemp. One more dead brain cell and you're a talking monkey.
Yankee
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JoAnn "Yankee" Colcleasure
General Manager
HiTech Creations
"The road to success is always under construction."
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Originally posted by YANKEE:
BTW Hinerman, lay off the Hemp. One more dead brain cell and you're a talking monkey.
Yankee
LOL YANKEE!!! ...but I thought he was ALREADY a talking monkey (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Hineman: My condolences. To be like you are must be really sad.
To HTC: I think that to trace this guy and start some legal moves would help to stop all this freelancers thingies.. We're gonna have this kind of guys all the time if you dont show they will be punished if they do what they do. Of course the decision is all yours (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Pepino: Petardoooo ya te pondre yo el culete rojo a base de 20mm!!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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I wouldn't worry too much about Hineyman- he didn't receive the pat on the back he was seeking, and he will find another place to squat soon enough. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Well, I'm neither american nor do I believe in religion, but I believe that there's a nasty place for such people, just for the behaviour.
Too sad that this behaviour may sometime lead to the effect that you won't be able to test AH for 2 weeks without a CC. Coming from germany, where CC's aren't the norm, I would probably not subscribe to AH if I were asked for a CC number (in fact, I participiated since the beginning of the open beta and got a CC just for the purpose of paying AH. And although my playing time is considerably reduced - partly due to lack of people that share my gaming style, or the perceived lack thereof, partly to real life constraints - I will continue to pay for AH just to add my share to boost game development).
Az
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381st BG (H)
"Triumphant we fly"
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Unfortunately this kind of attitude is far to prevelant.
To people who abuse HTC free two week policy and publicly rub their noses in it. I generalize you with the same kind of moral degenerate, who abuses natural resources for their own means with out any consideration for others.
This is not a victimless crime. Actions like the above person,can have serious repercussions to HTC,s trial policy,and subscriptions.
This type of attitude portrayed is common among , Poachers, Vandals and other low brow
activities criminals do on a daily basis.
If you find this type of extra cirricular activity humorous then i suggest you park your car (assuming you are old enough or intellegent enough to drive a motor vehicle)
in a parking lot on a regular basis unlocked.
Then we will see how humorous you find it when your good naturedness gets taken advantage of.
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Originally posted by hinerman:
You know what....you can all go diddly yourselves. Stick it up yer bellybutton RONNI...And to the rest of you..
Kiss my white american ass......
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
It's sad to see how ignorance and stupidity can reduce a young promise of society (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
BTW, judging from the others americans in this very nice community, i have still a good hope in future (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
And...
Hinerman, about your white american oscar, i have some other idea... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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"Hopefully the old battle axe will agree to
my spending $30 a month on a game! "
Oh, pity his wife that has to put up with a cheap-skate free-loader that most likely hasn't amounted to much more in than than a pile of dog-doo. Bet he's been charged with Welfare fraud as well.
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hinerman:
What you have done is committed a frawd. You might belive it is a minor issue, but it's not and if we choose to push the issue, the odd's are you would suffer some major consiquences.
And please don't try to push this issue or insult players or the creators of AH on the boards any longer, because all you will end up doing is digging an even bigger hole for yourself, and give HTC the motivation to make our first example of someone.
To everyone else.
It is HTC's choice to not demand CC info up front because we belive it will generate us more players.
We do not take the making of multiple free account's for the purpose of continuing free play lightly. We have from the begining of post beta implemented detection systems for finding these abusers and continue to refine these systems as the need arises.
How or what we do for detection HTC will not comment on because all that would do is generate more knowledge on how to get around the system.
HiTech
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Originally posted by Naso:
And...
Hinerman, about your white american oscar, i have some other idea... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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eh uh oh white american as ? hehe
that sux a real american i thing it have RED bellybutton or i em wrong ?????????????? :-))))))))
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I dont want to spend other words on that guy.
Originally posted by hitech:
It is HTC's choice to not demand CC info up front because we belive it will generate us more players.
HiTech
Wise choise.
This was the first reason i have chosen HTC.
I was looking an on-line sim, was my first experience, and i found WB and this unknow small company doing a beta test for a new game.
HTC dont ask me CC, and i like it a lot, i liked the community and the way HTC work, and the think most amusing for me was to see HT and pyro playing the game and gently anwering people on line... WTG !!! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Originally posted by hitech:
We do not take the making of multiple free account's for the purpose of continuing free play lightly. We have from the begining of post beta implemented detection systems for finding these abusers and continue to refine these systems as the need arises.
HiTech
Ok, here i must confess, i have played for about one week as "nasso" (nice try to hide, uh? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) ), while i was deciding and making calculations on my monthly budget (30$ is not a small amount in my already expensive country), but for sure in this ehmm... "extra" period i was taking a definitive decision: Yes or No.
As you see i have decided Yes.
I am a programmer too, and i think if you like a software, you pay, if you dont like it, dont use it.
Originally posted by hitech:
How or what we do for detection HTC will not comment on because all that would do is generate more knowledge on how to get around the system.
HiTech
Shhhh, HT, enemy is listening (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif).
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Wow. After seeing the way you all reacted to Hinerman, I wont tell you how long i've been making free account. I hope you have a good anti-bacterial cleanser.
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30411a-
How do you suggest we react to Hineyman? Pat him on the back for "outsmarting the system"? Don't you get it? It's all "gaming the game" to him, no honor in anything he does. He cheated HTC out of their money and bragged about it, and I submit would treat the rest of us with similar disdain (this I know because I've personally had to squelch him in the MA). Did you notice he mentioned having 3 computers in the house, yet he cannot find $30 for play?
If you are playing for free (that is, re-registering under a different ID every two weeks), don't come here looking for support from the community. Hineyman's message was:
A) Disappointment with HTC for stopping his illegal behavior, and;
B) Anger at RAM for being the catalyst for that action.
Fact is, he was wrong, knew it, yet tried to evade that responsiblility by attacking RAM. The old "I'm-not-the-only-one" excuse won't work for my kids... why should it work for him?
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...then again, maybe this is Hineyman under a new name? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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I personally know of at least 5 other people whom i met on yahoo that have been doing the same thing. Why did'nt HTC do something about this earlier. I first learned about it from a person called Nazi_boy or something like that on a internet gaming chatroom in Yahoo chat.
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Originally posted by 30411a:
I personally know of at least 5 other people whom i met on yahoo that have been doing the same thing. Why did'nt HTC do something about this earlier. I first learned about it from a person called Nazi_boy or something like that on a internet gaming chatroom in Yahoo chat.
OK...time to get into this again.
You say that why didnt do HTC anything before?. I dont know if they did or not, what I know is that now they are doing it. and its just fine with me.
You say there are many people doing this and now you say that you know 5 guys who do it. for me 5 is not a big number. Anyway what is your point with this?...because I see none.
I ask you,sir, how do you suggest me to react towards people who pay nothing for Aces High?.I am paying customer and I am proud of it. And while I can stand seeing some people doing the "free account" loop for a while, waiting to make more money, for sure I cant afford seeing people who doesnt pay, who doesnt want to pay,who wont pay...and who still puts it under our noses!
I say if you are a burglar at least dont yell it in front of the police!.
Then please tell us how must we react. do we invite the guy to a beer in the con?...or do we make a collect so he can fly AH with no loops?.
Get real, man. Stop the loop. If you dont want to pay, dont do it, just keep flying H2H.
But dont steal this community.
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Whats to say this guy was not useing 2 lines 2 free accounts and playing them off on each other?
What if guys here pay for 1 and scouts with another?The free one.
What if they kill their own account?
There has to be a way of tracking multiple accounts/free accounts and who's playing on them.
A box on the kill board that got checked if a guy had multiple accounts and was killing one with the other is needed.
If a guy is flying free that needs to be fixed too.
2 weeks is not enough to learn this game.
But knowing some guys have 4 or 5 names flying is a real bummer.
Guys who do this name swaping have no reason to treat others right. Or to stay out of argueing sessions.
Ive been verbaly attacked on ch1 by a name i never heard of. I bet it was someone hideing behind a new free name.I bet im not the only one who's had that happen to them.
EYE
HI WESTY (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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As AcesHigh gains popularity all paying customers can expect this to occur more frequently.
HT knows this as well as anyone.
I noticed immediately after pay for play was institued that many people were simply logging in new after two weeks and changing their original callsigns by a single letter or number.
Sadly, this is to be expected as there are many different types of people with many different types of excuses as well as no excuse at all.
You can bet the salt on your balls that as the internet matures, theft of this nature will get nailed down pretty much globally.
Hell, electronic signitures were recentl;y made lawfully binding. The internet is still new to many, many people.
I am confident that HTC is pursuing whatever means necessary to nail these folks out permanently.
Have your two weeks and if you cant afford it, press on or enjoy the multiplayer H2H.
Be honest.
Yeager
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where'd he go!?
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Nothing about this whole issue surprizes me in the slightess.
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Mino
The Wrecking Crew
"One more dead brain cell and you're a talking monkey."
Yankee
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Once again,
Hitech is the voice of reason. Don't you just hate BBS arguments? Why can't we all play nice. You are all nice guys (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) (I THINK) Can't we just talk about when I am going to get more things to blow up ur panzers with?
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wheel i thunk hineyman is justa nuther scumsucking algae eatin cracka american freeloader. I reckon I ought ta quit wif da free accounts to myself..but, since yall is so beligenrant, i be is reckon i gonna tell some other folks how easy it is ta play fow free. Seeeee Yaaaaa!
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Another freeloADING SCUMSUCKER !
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and he smokes pot. whoooo eeeeeeyyyyeee. i reckon he outta start drinkin beer. that away he might have a chance of killin some kids in a DUI accident. LOL
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Another freeloADING SCUMSUCKER !
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Another freeloADING SCUMSUCKER !
No, just the same one. Glad to see you still read the board, Hineyman.
Look in the lower-right hand corner. IP logged? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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LOL Kieren...
Maybe this guy is only 14 years old and cant grab his mom's CC...
Because if he is an adult, then it is a bit "undermodelled" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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let him have it guys !
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Originally posted by hitech:
hinerman:
And please don't try to push this issue or insult players or the creators of AH on the boards any longer, because all you will end up doing is digging an even bigger hole for yourself, and give HTC the motivation to make our first example of someone.
Hinerman, 30411a, Jungleboy, or whatever else you want to call yourself, you don't know good advice when you see it. If you really want to get into a pissing contest, just say the word, any word for that matter, and you'll find yourself drenched. So disappear without saying another word and don't come back, or become the object of a new project for me.
BTW, everybody has good reason to be pissed at you. You're not just stealing from us, you're stealing from everybody who plays the game, even those people who just play H2H. We're only six people to run this company and develop this game. So whenever we have to spend time filling in cracks to keep cockroaches from getting through, it's a significant use of resources.
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Doug "Pyro" Balmos
HiTech Creations
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Originally posted by eye:
Whats to say this guy was not useing 2 lines 2 free accounts and playing them off on each other?
LOL eye, you're obsessed =)
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Graywolfe <tim@flibble.org>
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Guess who eh? I know now (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Pyro,
before you kick the guy off his next account, please post his ID so we can have a proper dweebhunt. Actually, I don't think he's deserved the "dweeb" moniker, but...
Oh, but wait 2 weeks, I gotta get my next paycheck so I can register properly (my 2 weeks ran out, didn't have the money this month, but ******HINT FOR HINERMAN**** I _didn't_ try to rip HTC off ******END HINT****)
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Rickenbacker
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Wouldn't it be nice to have killshooter off only for this guy (and the like)?
Hehehe, imagine the row otr behind him all firing at once (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif). I mean passing by him saying "Oh...Hanymen (or whoever)...btw....BBBAAANNNGGG!" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Pepino
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I was wondered when this was gonna require more coding on the part of HTC to stop it...
I played all thru the beta and then
flew for my 2 weeks free.
Until I get a job, I fly only H2H now.
(HEY..HTC Need a Oracle DBA ?..Maybe to keep a database of all the thief related info? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif))
It's amazing how people think that it's bad to break into a house and steal things, but it is OK to steal software or services!
Why don't these idiots just mug the 6 employees of HTC when they leave work each day ! (NO DON'T!)
Pyro.....Do it... make an example.
I will be applauding when you do.
Regards, Snoopi
cya in the MA when I get a job or in H2H !
S!
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I do respect those who come forward tho...
Many in this thread...
Remember guys for everyone 1 who has the guts to admit it, there a prob. a lot without the guts to do so.
My point is.. don't be excessively hard on those who admit it and change their ways.
If Hinerman or anyone else comes back into the main arena as a paying customer, consider it done.
Making people regret they came forward or payed is pointless.
Regards,
Snoopi
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I for one have no problem with a person apologizing for something they've done wrong. That isn't what happened here, though.
Hinerman came in and said that HTC ruined his fun, and that RAM was wrong to push for this to happen, and (oh yeah, since you caught him anyway) he had been exploiting the system. Then he went on to berate RAM. This wasn't an apology, as there is no remorse. Apologies occur when a person recognizes wrong behavior and makes no attempt to divert attention from that fact. Hinerman went on to post under even more assumed names, for the purpose of antagonizing posters here. Do you really believe he sees anything wrong with his behavior?
I am the first to stick out a hand in friendship and make peace- anyone that knows me knows that. On the other hand, if a person is pretending to be the victim when they in fact "committed the crime" I think that requires a response.
[This message has been edited by Kieren (edited 07-04-2000).]
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Originally posted by Snoopi:
My point is.. don't be excessively hard on those who admit it and change their ways.
If Hinerman or anyone else comes back into the main arena as a paying customer, consider it done.
Huh? Snoopi can you quote him saying that he is going to come back as a paying customer?...or where he admits that his ways are wrong?
no, sir , he only came here to say that HTC ruined his fun because they cut the cheat, and to blame me because he thought that I was the motive of this thing happening. I think that this would have happened with out without me. But this is not the matter now.
What matters is that he came here expecting people to think bad of me and hoping that here someone supported his cheating. What he found here wasnt what he expected:
Originally posted by hinerman:
You know what....you can all go diddly yourselves. Stick it up yer bellybutton RONNI...And to the rest of you..
Kiss my white american ass......
so...well you get my point, huh?
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I think you misunderstood me.
(i've always had difficulty getting my true thoughts across in text, and now will try to add to the misunderstanding (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) )
In my second post I was NOT really thinking of "Hinerman" specifically.
I was thinking more of people who admit they have done wrong and correct it, NOT people who try to justify their actions & try to deflect blame, or continue wuthout remorse.
(there are a few posts in this thread that admit they used "NEW" ID's)
I was only thinking that a witch hunt of those who REALLY realize they were wrong and admit it would be bad for everyone.
In Regards to "Hinerman":
Even convicted felons who clean up their act should get a second chance.
(though "cleaning up their act" is rare)
I hope that "hinerman" REALLY realizes he was terribly wrong, and if so, that we can respect that accomplishment.
Whether this "rehabilitation" is possible and genuine will be hard to judge.
Regards,
Snoopi
P.S.
My close friends know i'm the last person to put up with this stuff.
[This message has been edited by Snoopi (edited 07-05-2000).]
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To HTC, and to the AH community:
Hitech, pyro, yankee, Ronnie the rest of HTC and the AH community i just want to get this off my back and go clean. I know you all know this by now but i just want to bring this up myself without someone saying it out in their own perception. I used your company's 2 week policy to cheat and get out of paying via CC/check/prepay. After reading all these posts and comments concerning this subject and spending lots of time enjoying REAL LIFE (TM) during this summer. I must say that i was a real stunninghunk a theif and a cheat and i deeply regret decieving you all. I am not trying to win back your confience or
try to make you think im a nice, good guy because that is wrong. What i have done prooves im nothing but a pathetic scum -sucking SOB with an ego the size of a 380mm shell. RAM was right and i had no credibilty to argue that i was right about what i did. BTW I was never proud of this because i knew that it was wrong and after the first time my consience beat down on me, but my ego kept me going. I know this apology doesnt justify my actions or my attitude towards this topic and you can insult me and beat down on me all you want.
On a lighter note
To RAM: First time i saw Spain i thought it was unerdeveloped,that is, untill i saw the girls (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
[This message has been edited by Torquila (edited 07-06-2000).]
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(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Originally posted by Torquila:
On a lighter note
To RAM: First time i saw Spain i thought it was unerdeveloped,that is, untill i saw the girls (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
LOL!...that is because you are in Southern Spain. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif). In Northern spain girls are just as wonderful while we arent so "underdeveloped".
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OTOH, Torquila, you do at least accept responsibility for your actions (at least socially) and that does mean something. If you are Hinerman, this should close the door on the whole issue in my mind.
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Originally posted by Kieren:
If you are Hinerman, this should close the door on the whole issue in my mind.
No, im not hinerman, im not stupid enuff to swear at HTC staff or anyone else in here. Cause i hope to start paying when i get back from summer holiday, and i would rather be on good terms wth HTC and you guys.
[This message has been edited by Torquila (edited 07-07-2000).]
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I'm one of those guys that RAM has helped a lot , thanks hey RAM you rock! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
see ya buddie
bueno, recuerda que uno no es ninguna monedita de oro para caerle bien a todo el mundo (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)